As a Congolese born and raised in Eswatini but living and working in South Africa, I totally support Ike on what foreigners are doing in South Africa, we need him too in DRC because our country has been taken over by Nigerians, Indians and Rwandans. I like that scarce skills part, I'm an Industrial Robotics and Artificial intelligence engineer which is a scarce skill and you should only be allowed to come to a country if you coming to start a business or are a scarce skill, PERIOD!!
Business needs labourer, I bet you forgot that. Any country in the world, any super power country needs investors and labourers be it highly educated or uneducated, they go hand in hand. Do you know how many people Canada brings in just to pick fruits?
@@briandejesustofa3708 that's because maybe there's not enough local citizens willing to do that job, but in South Africa and the DRC there's more than enough people for those jobs but illegal immigrants are hired instead because they can be overworked and underpaid.
Europeans are united and Africans are divided through the rule implemented by white men."Divided & rule ".Borders have made Africans hate their fellow Africans & see nothing like them (Self hate)
@@iyiolaabosede9500 yes there's a lot of your people there causing unnecessary havoc, even in Eswatini it's a stereotype that most of y'all are in illegal dealings like drugs and armed robberies.
Pen man let me tell you something you thought you knew but you really don't know, Your podcast is bigger then 90% of what I see on RU-vid, please pride yourself man we learning a lot bra. Thank you syabonga Ntsizwa Yama Butho. God bless you.
We had borders since the begining of time. That is why we had people running away from inkosi uShaka to the land of kgosi Moshoeshoe and inkosi uHintsa. We all knew where the land of each tribe began and ended. Malema is drunk, yes we did not have fence, however, no one would enter any land of any African kingdom without declaring and asking for permission to either pass through or stay.
@@donaldmolaba3464 That was borderline. You might well say, like colonizers that Africans did not marry, just because they did not wear a suit and a white wedding dress in front of the pulpit. That is a colonization mindset. Yes we married and yes we had borders. How would people like AmaMfengu became refugees in the land of AmaXhosa if there were no borders? Inkosi uCetshwayo had his land and his people and accepted iNdlovukazi uNandi and his son inkosi uShaka, whilst other subgroups were chasing them away. How can those kings and chiefs chase indlovukazi and inkosi away if there was no borderline? This is just a crazy argument based on a cognitive dissonance.
This kind of engagement is exemplary, we should learn from that particular moment more than focus on who is better, they both great and built each other more than anything else, we all need each other, Penuel's brilliant show brought us this amazing interview.
Ike Khumalo spoke so well regarding the issue of illegal immigration, sanctions of Zimbabwe and Haitia, the false idea that Africa never had borders, racism and inequality in SA, Second Codesa as the possible solution going forward in SA and the sanction people can expect if they can take the land, the constitution and laws of the country
I knew Adv. Ike Khumalo through Power FM he used to be a regular caller. Unfortunately they banned him. I really love his opinions. I really admire him
Ike is not bad as the way the media portrays him. He is very knowledgeable on the law and raised very valid points on current affairs. Thoroughly enjoyed the interview.
Ike is maturing well, he used to be wild but now I see a calm Ike who puts out his views without showing any anger. Age is catching up with Ike😅 but I am glad to have learnt so much from him. This is one of the guys that needs to be protected
I used to listen to advocate Khumalo from powerfm mostly when Professor JJ Tabane was still there very brilliant mind and never scared of speaking the truth.
The Penuel Show with Adv. Ike Khumalo Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 00:10 - Welcoming in Adv. Khumalo 03:30 - Effects of being arrested during 21' July looting 09:15 - Reasons behind arrest 12:05 - Why do you question things 14:20 - Thoughts on influential men 16:50 - Thoughts on black men 19:50 - Leadership 26:30 - African leaders 28:20 - Operation Dudula 35:35 - Focus on Africans 38:30 - Who has committed the most atrocities 40:00 - Solutions to South African problems 44:00 - CODESA 49:05 - ANC / Politics - Revolutions 58:00 - Inspiration 1:05:35 - Comfort & relationship to social grants 1:11:00 - How social grants can be used for beneficial reasons 1:13:30 - Social chaos 1:18:20 - Thoughts on current legal system 1:30:24 - ENDS
Thanks Penuel.Bra Ike , siyabonga bafo.You one of the folks amongst inspirational leaders people to do university LECTURES to influence our youth. Standing ovation ,
Ike, thank you for the legal education you provided throughout the duration of the interview, and the expression of humanity that came through, people like yourself should be helping to articulate and carve the political and economic path of society, be at the forefront our economic and societal development.
Yoh, from 23:00 to 25:00 Ike echoed all my thoughts about the "average" man. Two days ago 85000 people gathered to watch a bunch of grown-ups run around kicking a ball for 90 min, last week it was 90 000. Some even traveled from different provinces,yet we can't even get 10% of these people to march to Mega watt park and demand the sacking of Andre de Ruyter. When you realize the number of people that were gathered in those stadiums equals to our entire Military and police force combined you'l realize that South Africans deserve the high unemployment rate, lack of service delivery, the privatizing of SOE and non-stop loadsheding.
Adv.Ike Khumalo u r God send,I cant b'lieve I had a chance 2 hear u.U r amazing,intuitive compassionate,educated,everything...I wish u should long 2 benefit this country.
I share exactly the same sentiments on xenophobia. I really enjoyed the way Ike speaks in very lay terms, while uttering deep stuff (legal, international, political, historical economic relations). He is a true leader, relying on accessible language, relevant and relatable context for the audience. Siyabonga.
Adv Ike Khumalo used to call on Talk radio 702 back in 2012/13 I was in varsity doing my 2nd year, I know him from there and he disappeared. I used to ask myself what happened to him even this year. I'm happy to finally see him
This interview is one of the best. I need to listen to this conversation again this Adv ike is clear about everything about what is saying. Thank you GodPenuel for bringing Adv Ike Khumalo 🙏🏾
This is the most important South African interview I have ever since I started being a big follower of podcasts....I'm still shocked about Ike Khumalo's recollection of Codesa.....A Codesa 2.0 is urgently needed the future of our country depends on it 😲😲
When i tell people i want 6 children , they think i m crazy , Children are a blessing you can have as much as you want as long as u can provide a good life and support them
What a great mind, Ike enkosi kakhulu, and Pen, thank you so much for bringing this man. Echoed some really good points especially on how we as South Africans don't challenge the government. And also how when a leader is killed life just goes on... Really enjoyed this chat
I concur with Penuel's observation that South Africans tend to travel primarily for leisure purposes. Personally, I have been fortunate enough to possess a bold and adventurous spirit, and have traveled extensively throughout Africa, interacting with people from all over the continent. During our conversations, I noticed that individuals travel for two main reasons: firstly, due to poverty and lack of opportunities in their home countries, and secondly, to gain skills and knowledge from around the world. However, the issue arises when many of these individuals do not wish to return to their countries of origin, including Nigerians. Instead, a significant number of them choose to settle in Europe, Canada, or the US. As a Master's degree student at Pan African University, I have had the opportunity to interact with African students from various countries, and it is interesting to note that many of them aspire to relocate to France (for those from French-speaking nations) or Canada.
All along I have been thinking that this fellow was just utsotsi/sidlamlilo from Jozi, however this interview has changed my perception about Ike Mntungwa 180 degrees, big ups to your work Penelimnyama💪🏾
even when he was on tweeter He responds to everybody whether a celeb or not, very humble grootman, he relates to youngsters and people his age. I don't know him personally but he once returned my DM and told me if I do not get help from his advice I must DM him. Bra Ike is a real foot soldier. I SALUTE THIS BRA IKE KHUMALO.....
Nice interview Pen, I could tell how different you and advocate are but you held this conversation so well. You guys differ a lot on ideologies but you managed to have a decent conversation
Ola bra Ike. Your introduction of yourself is powerful, especially your defination of EDUCATION. I believe you, it ought to be regarded as a tool to unlock our minds to avoid the stupid myth of ' master/ servant inter - relations. Unlocking our mind and enabling us to create our own jobs ( self empowerment ), rather that relying on the next person for survival. As a nation, a lot can thus be achieved when a majority of us think likewise. Positive minds think alike. Power to you big brother.😮😊
You have a great show here @penuel! Awesome conversations, interesting perspectives and insights that are thought-provoking. More should listen to these
