They know how to be classy even if they're not in their own platform which it shouldn't be, that's the charm of independent. But damn seeing them in mainstream is wild. Let's see who lives long enough and stay the same.
@@jadedspades1: him being know as drinker is his internet personality, it ain’t that deep. 2: Nerdrotic has been clean for like over a decade, he doesn’t hide that he did drugs, he owns it because he’s since reformed. Get your facts right before being an incompetent cock.
@@jadedspades don’t forget it’s Critical Thinker with a pun thrown in. The ‘Drinker’ while yes he enjoys a good Scottish drink from the faucet he is on this show for his critical insights on the zeitgeist of films but if you don’t want to focus on what he says and go instead with his act that’s up to you. Also Nerdrotic is likely enjoying his current success from working hard and being sober-for many years- I imagine that is worth mentioning too. Just putting things in perspective.
Its interesting how the "RU-vidrs" are nice and quiet, wait for their turn, don't scream or yell over each other, no interupting or sneering, just patiently waiting their turn to speak.
They're actually told when they come on to "not hold back." Piers' people definitely want disagreements to be dramatic. This has been said by multiple youtubers that have been on. I think RU-vidrs are just mostly not interested in being that mad because they're real people and not media trained fighters. They probably want a civil discussion on the topic. And this topic is pretty tame.
I love how leftists and political/entertainment midwits make out The Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic to be these irrational people who spread hatred, bigotry, and fan toxicity, yet they are the most respectful people in this debate who wait their turn to speak.
LOL! And still act like a hypocrite condemning Kevin Spacey for being touchy like many gay people are. It's not that big a deal unless they push it when a person doesn't want it.
It’s even worse since they didn’t watch it. Perhaps I missed something but neither one explained anything they enjoyed about the show or what it was even about.
I'm a straight woman, I loved Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Doctor Who, Classic Disney Animated movies, MCU... Disney and wokeness destroyed everything. Now I watch Critical Drinker, Nerdrotic and Film Threat hours and hours of videos about the woke downgrade of these IPs, instead of actually watching those shows and movies, and I know I'm not the only one.
Love how Ernest and James IMMEDIATELY went to the insults when they heard Drinker and Gary had issues with The Acolyte. They probably haven't even seen 5 seconds of the show but went straight on the offense just because they saw who had a problem with it.
The topic was disingenuous. Literally last year's oscars had Poor Things and Oppenheimer - you literally see Emma Stone as nude as the day she was born having varying sexual adventures. Oppenheimer you see Murphy naked bar his genitals, same with Florence Pugh where you see her breasts but not her genitals.
You could just see Gary (Nerdrotic) wanting to add the qualifier that the reason Captain Marvel really succeeded was because it was sandwiched between Infinity War and Endgame. And was marketed as a "must watch" for the series. Also the fact that literally every Marvel movie was making bank back then. I love seeing Nerdortic and Drinker on here! They really do deserve to be taken seriously by the more traditional mainstream.
@@lucag3052 Again that’s a very shallow way of putting the “truth” The truth is Gen z and Alpha are conditioned BY social media. It’s not Gen z that was the problem it’s social media and the online society/culture the internet created. If you blame people for being born in a time when this was all invented to purposefully manipulate them you need to touch grass. I hate gen z and i still think this is a dumb argument. Cause and effect people. 🙄
James is there to give a gay man perspective, the same as Pierce is always sure to have a woman representative and person of colour, too. He wants to have a *politically neutral and balanced* show, not an echo chamber one.
@@IllisiaAdams No he's there to make woke people look horrific. He just talks over everyone and makes everything personal. A balanced show would have a smarter "woke" person on there to try to defend those viewpoints intelligently.
Other gay men are available that would represent gay men with maturity, respect, dignity, calmness, and intelligence. I feel like James is there for the shock factor and drama, but Piers, I just turn off your show when he's on because James becomes a noise bag that really causes me discomfort and embarrassment for him.
@@IllisiaAdams Yeah but I can think of a lot of gays who could give a gay man perspective better than James, and if this was not about Kevin Spacey, I would say it would be a bit "woke" to even feel the need to have a "gay man" perspective on there as if having a sexual preference somehow should make your opinions more or less valid.
This is exactly what piers is saying…. Yes in sci-fi anything is possible, but this is 100% propagated to the woke movement, no different to tv advertising and dumbing down of society, if you do not see this then you are missing the real reason why Disney now own SW! And why that was always dangerous!
Notice how Nerdrotic’s original claim was “nobody watched the Acolyte,” but when he’s proven wrong and told that over 4.5 million people watched it in 48 hours, he changed his original claim from “nobody watched it” to “oh, yeah, well, Drinker’s video covering the show got more views.” Drinker’s coverage video didn’t get more than 4.5 million views in 48 hours like Star Wars did. So Nerdrotic was wrong again with his emotional response.
@@MrDeepseadweller It was over 4.5 million views within 48 hours, which Drinker’s coverage video still didn’t pass or make in that timeframe. So what you say still doesn’t change the facts.
The second they start talking about woke star wars the gays immediately cave in and begin with the usual raciat homophobic nonsense instead of actual listening to their claims. Amazing.
Johny Depp was not even innocent. He did hit his ex-wife which is illegal. What the last trial showed is just that she was crazy herself in her own way and so was he. He chose to marry a crazy young woman and instead of divorcing when he could not handle it he hit her. So let's stop with that "innocent Jonhy Depp" narrative.
@gavinjames141 .... and if Depp did, he would have been very young and may likely have had no unpleasant experiences with Polanski who preferred little girls! Depp may never have seen any bad behaviour. We can't demonise EVERY SINGLE PERSON by connection .... there are degrees of connection, rightly or wrongly ....
he's a representative of a society that is mostly stupid, so that is why he is invited for that view for the sheer stupidity of mass thinking which doesn't make it better or good to watch
The Will Smith thing was more about the fact he publicly assaulted someone on live TV, and faced no consequences for it. He wasnt even escorted out of the building and excluded from that night's ceremony. And worse, he was later REWARDED with an Oscar trophy that very same night! What kind of message does that send? And as for the child raping Polanksi well, he should be extradited by a Seal Team at this point. 🤷♂️
Well, one of my team members showed up half naked and I sent her home because I found her dress code inappropriate. You do not want to imagine what followed after this, I was attacked by all sorts of cheerleaders for every type of accusation such as body shaming, promoting patriarchy, misogynist etc. I only got away with it just because I referred to the company's dress code which was posted on the website 😂😂. Noone ever apologised to me for all the hate I received.
Earnest said he believes Cancel Culture can be unfair and that "Not all cancellations are created equal", and proceeded to immediately suggest Roman Polanski and Kevin Spacey's actions should be treated equally. Huh??
Kevin Spacey is literally one of the best actors. There is literally no way to prove what he's actually feeling or if he's just acting. He knew Epstein personally. We know he lied and said he didn't know him. That's enough for to know he did some evil shit and is just lying about it, with no regrets.
Yeah - Nobody is talking about the pink elephant.... Kevin is arguably the best actor in Hollywood. Without him they all suck and they know it so there's that.
Sadly a large portion of people think like him. So it's a necessary evil because you'll come across these people in your daily life who hold similar opinions to him so it's useful to hear it contrasted with the other side of the argument.
So if someone insults your prophet who went through a lot of hardship and you love more than any other human, you are allowed to stab them? Ridiculous logical argument. Violence is not the answer.
I think James is still butt hurt from every episode he proven himself to be wrong so he trolls Piers in every way possible!! Imagine being in a relationship with James, I'd wanna jump off a bridge daily out of frustration 🤣🤣🤣
It’s hilarious how Nerdrotic tried to get a “gotcha” at James and the other and failed miserably. Notice how Nerdrotic’s original claim was “nobody watched the Acolyte,” but when he’s proven wrong by James and the other guy and is told that over 4.5 million people watched it in 48 hours, Nerdrotic changed his original claim from “nobody watched it” to “oh, yeah, well, Drinker’s video covering the show got more views.” Drinker’s coverage video didn’t get more than 4.5 million views in 48 hours like Star Wars did. So Nerdrotic was wrong again with his emotional response. Lol fail
I guess we're all not going to talk about how Will Smith was messing with this 24 yr biracial model that he take with when he goes on vacation. A youtuber exposed that. I think a week later the youtuber screenshooted Jada Smith started following her. I think she did that to protect Will reputation. I think its true...they r swinger. This was before Augusta outed Jada
Thank you. I didn't even watch the video but I came here to say this exact same thing. How is it even comparable? That's insane. Groping underage boys is SA. This is not the same as slapping someone for a.bad joke. Yes, no one should ever resort to violence like this but it's absolutely not comparable.
Sexual impropriety to the 14 year old boy who, as an adult, was ordered to Spacey $40,000 in damages? Or the young person on Nantucket who dropped his lawsuit when the "evidence" that may or may not have ever existed failed to exist when needed? These people are all liars and parasites and the people cancelling Spacey are all hypocrites... as are the vast majority of oh, so righteous people on this message board
@@peterlee584 He said he touched someone's leg in a flirtatious way. Is that groping? What does groping even mean? What about hugging - does that need consent now? And if it doesn't, why does touching someone's leg require consent? I'm genuinely asking, because when I was growing up, we relied on common sense to mediate these interactions.
Notice how James and Ernest went directly for insults the moment "The Acolyte" came up and didn't let Drinker or Nerdrotic get a word in edge wise. It's almost as if they couldn't defend the show on it's merits. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't watched it themselves
'Top Gun was woke, the remake.' It wasn't a remake. It was a sequel. These people proselytize about things they haven't even seen. And it wasn't woke at all. That's part of why it was such a success.
More like this people in X and in journalism that influence the normies. They're the ones defending greed and politics in any industry and call fans the buzzwords.
Let me just say that there was a certain demographic (of two) in this conversation that made this VERY DIFFICULT to get through. Never a straight, sensible answer, and overall delusional.
James Barr, yeah - and that's not the only thing that's odd about him... There's his morals, his etiquette, his sense of self-importance, the fact he lacks the self-awareness to realize that he's effectively Piers' jester who's wheeled out whenever the segment has need for a fool. The poor boy can't even make the distinction when it comes to on-screen chemistry between actors, or how a səx scene can indeed have its place in the plot if done right (i.e., tells the audience something about the characters while they're in a vulnerable situation together)... Nope, it's all just "go watch þorn, then!" (Funny thing about it is, he likely spent three years and at least five figures getting a degree about as useful as a chocolate fireplace that should've informed him about such aspects of good storytelling as above, but he's either too indoctrinated or incompetent to apply his esteemed knowledge. Hope his parents are proud!)
Ikr! I’m so glad you pointed that out! This is a guy who has no problem with p*rn, which may be one of the most disgusting, degrading things ever created by man. P*rn may include horrific acts inflicted on people, especially women, abusive p*rn, horrible things to ever be performed in front of a camera, and most of these people who do p*rn only do it for money and get forced into it, I wouldn’t be surprised. But that one innocent joke about roger Moore getting excited?? Gimme a break, James.
Allen has been cleared on two subsequent investigations. Some of his adopted children say he was an abuser while other say it is all made up and some of the children were instigated by their adoptive mother Mia Farrow who is angry that he left here.
Ernest, the black gay man on the panel, has contributed nothing of substance. He seems more focused on seeking attention, yet consistently misses the mark. His attempts at humor fall flat, and none of his jokes have landed.
Who exactly are these people on the panel? One guy saying that Polanski wasn’t groping other actors, that James guy being obnoxious, one person saying “just watch porn”, calling Top Gun a remake, comparing spacey to will smith, piers believing that Kevin is innocent just because he was found not guilty in his lawsuit, to name a few. Also, will smith was punished or the slap. He was banned from the oscars for 10 years
What is a movie expert? How many hours of movies do you have to watch? What type of opinion do you have to have? There’s no such thing as a movie expert that’s a bullshit title.
Critical drinker and nerdrotic are not movie experts, they’re dudes with opinions and rage bait for clicks. There’s nothing professional about any critic
what movie critics? they do not exist anymore. make something gay... or race etc.... rotten tomatoes critics give it 99% and the audience gives it 20% loool When critics like a movie...i know i should not waste my time. Btw i consider myself a movie expert.... i actually worked on some.... they were crap but i had/ have love for it and have a decent knowledge about it.
Agreed, the sexual 'allegations' were never proven to have happened. The slap was *physical assault* which actually did happen. And Will was very lucky that his friend didn't press charges ^^
@@Accesserised the meaning of an allegation is a CLAIM or assertion. to say someone has allegations is NOT calling them guilty. to have allegations of sexual assault thrown at you and comparing that to someone being slapped is indeed ludicrous. why did yall have to bring Will smith in the situation anyway??
It wasn't just a slap, it was physical assault on national TV. Any form of *assault is NOT okay* no matter how famous you are. The difference is that Kevin was cleared (found not guilty) in court, yet he is still in danger of being cancelled. Smith continues to make movies and never went to court. Luckily he was forgiven, but you're right it's not the same. A better comparison of sexual assault claims destroying a legacy - Michael Jackson. Practically killed by rumours & the media with absolutely zero evidence to support any allegations. People will always make claims for money, and the media will gossip for more money. But it's up to the justice system (not public opinion) to determine the truth from fabrication ^^
@@lademoredude, wtf do you keep commenting all over this comment section about the Vatican?!? We’re not talking about the Vatican, it’s not the topic of the video and has absolutely nothing to do w any of this conversation or the topic at hand! Yet, you’re all over this comment section responding to everyone’s comments in a nonsensical way by randomly bringing up the Vatican and pulling that ish out of nowhere straight out of your arse! *The only thing you’ve accomplished, is showing what an **_utter nutter you are_** by obsessing over the Vatican, obsessively repetitively commenting about the Vatican on comments that have nothing to do w the Vatican, on a video that has nothing to do w the Vatican!!* *Get **_off_** the internet, go outside and **_touch some sodding grass,_** go see your psychiatrist and **_take your bloody meds!!_* _Yeesh!_ 🙄🥴😑 Edit : autocorrect mistake.
everyone deserves a second chance in life. Who am I to judge a person I've never met or had interactions with? People should be more concerned with themselves than others
Plus you only get what news outlets want to report and how they present it to you to get ratings. Unless you are in the case itself and see the evidence you have NO objective view. What happened to innocent till proven guilty.
Why even have James on these debates he offers absolutely zero in means of intelligent conversation and argument and completely doesn’t understand that his opinion means absolutely nothing in accordance to law
Enter all the hypocrites in the chat that act like they've never made any mistakes in their life, and want to bash Kevin and Will Smith as if they personally did something to them.
@@southlondon86 Why should he listen to a man insulting his wife on the biggest night of his career. It boggles my mind that people today think "comedy" is basically insulting people and their families and are surprised that when people get a broken jaw doing it.
@@Jamie-v5o Why didn’t he do the same to the guy who actually slept with his wife? Why pick on a comedian half his size and build whose job it is to roast others?
I don’t watch or listen to shows where everybody’s talking at the same time. It’s great that nerdrotic is getting on some more shows like this. I’m a big fan of his channel. Great content. I’m here to support him.
What woody Allen did is morally unacceptable but in essence not illegal and he has more influence in Hollywood than spacey so he can get away with a lot.. on the other hand spacey didn’t just behave sexually inappropriate with people but also minors allegedly
yup he's smoking copium and delusion. woke is fine if done right like Fallout, The Boys, X-men 97, etc. Star Wars turned into activism, which disrespects the lore. She Hulk, Eternals and Echo are more examples of deviating from the source material to inject activism. Captain Marvel did the same thing but got away with it due to the timing of it. If that movie released today it would flop.
@@bedachou I wouldn't consider those woke either. Those stories aren't primarily about those elements, whereas The Acolyte's and similar content's primary story is *about* the social stuff in lieu of an interesting plot
It was propaganda for the military industrial complex or the Anglo American Empire like the first one. (The recruiting numbers alone from the first one) And a future war with China/Iran/Russia because a declining America just can't handle the thought of sharing the world with others as equals. It either had to be No1 or everyone else must die using nukes, if they can't have it no one one can. Funny how Nerdrotic and Drinker can't recognise or make light of (or see, but don't care) the propaganda when it's the old fashioned type, there isn't some big grifting vein of gold there. Their audience tends to be just as thick as the woke. Signing people up to get murdered or murder is at least as bad as woke.
Living in deNILE! He should be ‘cancelled’ for being a smudged line when it comes to important topics… I guess a flip flopper as it fits his narrative.
It's really weird you think you have to forgive or not forgive someone that did nothing to you at all. I don't care about Will Smith or what he did. That's between him and Chris Rock.
He was found innocent, that's all I needed to know. He didn't do the things he was accused of according the the 2 courthouses he was tried in. The jury that heard more evidence than I have heard and found him innocent. I think he deserves a second chance. I'd watch him again.
"Acolyte is the most streamed show". Says who? Says Disney? Disney says "hey, our new gay star wars is the most popular thing on TV". Sure, why would anyone question that, it seems legit. Disney wouldn't make that up. EVERY new show on a streaming service gets the "its our most streamed show ever" statement issued.
It probably was the most streamed show. Think about how many people are watching it just to see how bad it is Plus, what counts as 1 view? How long does someone have to watch before it counts? Cause think of all the people who say "ohh a new star wars show?" then watch 10 minutes and turn the shit off like "what the fuck did I just watch?!"
@@whofactchecksthefactcheckers lol I haven't watched any of the shows. Hell, I don't think I even finished The Force Awakens. I doubt I'll ever watch the other movies. I started to watch them but I heard Luke dies and I just ain't fuckin havin that Of course I have seen the bit from the Mandalorian episode where Luke shows up to save the day, and THAT has me tempted to watch the show, but I'm not sure yet. That scene alone is the greatest piece of Star Wars in the last.. 20 years almost? But honestly, I don't think they should have even bothered with the digital young Luke bullshit, just throw Mark Hamill in there man, I don't give a shit if it makes sense, none of the other stuff does anymore anyway, right?
All the people trying to defend spacey should be put on a list for police to keep an eye on them. People empathizing with PDF-files are mostly PDF-files themselves.
Forgiveness is when someone acknowledges their deeds. Kevin S. doesn’t young men what Cosby did in the 80s. Hollywood knew his deeds, they’re complicit if they knew and will distance themselves from him, as he could bring down others.
I find it weird how three of the panelist are in fact in the same room staring ahead talking to a camera while the person there talking to sits right beside them!
