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Perceiving Climate Change #1: Ice (SHU Space & Place Group Event, 15-2-24, with RGS Yorkshire & NE) 

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This 'ice'-themed event was the first in our series of online events considering how scientists, artists and the wider public ‘notice’ climate change. Further details of our 2024 series are here: shu-spg.eventc...
Our presenters for this event were:
Rob Storrar (SHU, DNBE - glaciologist)
Measuring how water affects glacier changes from space and with drones
We are all familiar with images of retreating glaciers, and of icebergs calving dramatically into the ocean. But there is more to glaciology than simply noticing that glaciers are melting. As the climate warms, glaciers and ice sheets experience more and more melting, and this produces huge volumes of water that drain across, within and beneath ice. The addition of liquid water can cause glaciers to accelerate (potentially speeding up ice loss and sea level rise), but it can also cause them to slow down. Being able to predict which of these will predominate is clearly important for understanding future sea level rise. However, understanding how water moves through glaciers is a complex business, since it involves studying processes that occur beneath 100s or even 1000s of metres of solid ice. It has impacts that are felt at a huge range of scales: from centimetres to thousands of kilometres, and from hours to thousands of years. This talk will explore how we can use 3D models created from satellite imagery and drone surveys to advance our understanding about how water behaves underneath ice, based on ongoing projects in Iceland and Greenland.
Niall Gandy (SHU, DNBE - Palaeo-glaciologist)
Ancient to Modern, Digital to Physical: Connecting the Dots of Ice Sheet Science
Greenland and Antarctica are facing gargantuan change over the next century as we warm our climate. We are pushing these ice sheets away from many millennia of remarkable stability, towards collapse at an uncertain rate. It is obviously important to understand the magnitude and pace of this change. One way to reduce our uncertainty is to study ancient ice sheets of the last ice age, examining periods of rapid change help us better predict future behaviour. At Sheffield Hallam University we have been running computer simulations of these ancient ice sheets, and have reproduced ancient “instabilities” - collapse events which could cause rapid sea level rise over the course of just a few decades. This work can help us improve the accuracy of simulations predicting future change, but actually joining together the perspectives (from ancient ice sheet to future change, and from digital simulations to real physical change) is an outstanding challenge. This talk will examine which barriers still exist, how they can be removed, and the potential benefits of doing so.
Haukur Ingi Einarsson (Founder, glacieradventure.is)
How can an Icelandic glacier guide’s perspective on glacier change, climate and sustainability make a difference?
Visiting a glacier is a unique and special experience, and one that thousands of tourists are able to do each year in locations around the world. However, a single visit to a glacier can make it hard to understand how they are changing. This talk provides the perspective of the owner of a glacier guide business (Glacier Adventure) in SE Iceland. The talk will explore the daily-seasonal-annual changes that can be observed when visiting glaciers regularly, and the longer timescales and experiences of living with glaciers. It will also explore how glacier tourism can be used as a powerful educational tool, and stimulus to help people to think more about climate change, and why they might want to try to live more sustainably.
Lise Autogena (SHU, Professor of Cross-disciplinary Art / Director of Narsaq International Research Station (NIRS), Greenland)
Greenland - what next? Local Perceptions of the retreating ice.
In Greenland, the melting glaciers is already impacting on traditional ways of life and Greenlanders are experiencing a huge influx of climate researchers from around the world who come here to understand the wider impacts of the changes to the arctic climate. The melting ice also drives a growing international interest in Greenland as a site for exploitation of natural resources, in particular the mining of minerals critical to the global energy transition away from fossil fuels. This growing geo-political importance is perceived by many Greenlanders as an opportunity for diversifying local income sources to build financial independence for a new decolonised Greenland. However, many in Greenland are also concerned with the potential impact of international mining activities on the fragile arctic ecology, which could have long-term consequences for the Inuit way of life. This talk will focus on local perceptions in South Greenland, where a legal dispute with an international mining company is currently threatening to destabilise the entire Greenlandic economy, raising concerns about the country’s vulnerability in dealing with geo-political interests.

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Комментарии : 20   
@-LightningRod-
@-LightningRod- 7 месяцев назад
yes Lise, i ofteh think that the canadian policies of late should unite all the parties and encompass nuuksand become a global refuge as a sensible pact of evolution
@-LightningRod-
@-LightningRod- 7 месяцев назад
No friend, ...everyone knows what a TRILLION is,.... its alot. No One knows what a gigaton is it sounds like it comes from Space,... Target your audience Thye people that Know the difference you dont have to convince that its "Alot".
@davidwatson7604
@davidwatson7604 7 месяцев назад
Algo boost! Generally speaking Lana Del Rey Lana Del Rey
@chrimony
@chrimony 7 месяцев назад
Per the second presenter: Canada and Britain under ice 25,000 years ago. All melted. 400 feet of sea level rise. And the current models did not model it correctly. Things that make you go, "Hmm."
@marcariotto1709
@marcariotto1709 6 месяцев назад
Per current reality. Low Island archipelagos and nations being inundated slowly year after year. Things that make you go bloop bloop bloop🤔
@chrimony
@chrimony 6 месяцев назад
@@marcariotto1709 Imagine Canada and northern Europe under ice, and how much land changed to water after 400 feet of sea level rise. No humans involved. Now tell me again about maybe some low island archipelago that is at risk.
@marcariotto1709
@marcariotto1709 6 месяцев назад
@@chrimony Bloop bloop bloop! There, did you get it yet? I didn't think you would. HFM and FU.
@chrimony
@chrimony 6 месяцев назад
@@marcariotto1709 Ah, sorry, your immense wit is beyond me. I'll have to do without.
@marcariotto1709
@marcariotto1709 6 месяцев назад
@chrimony All joking and acrimony aside. It is not just climate change or the cause of it that are huge problems for humanity. There is a poly crisis with 5 or more major threats to humanity. The thing is, if climate change and these other crises are human caused, humans can adjust and do better long-term through conservation. If you're correct, then it doesn't really matter long term. The saddest part is that conservation aligns with almost everything right-wing people claim to espouse. It's enshrines personal responsibility. It encourages savings and wise efficient use of resources, which decreases inputs while maximizing outputs. It respects others and their needs and looks to pay dividends forward to our inheritors rather than the current can kicking debt avoidance so bemoaned by the right. The only catch is that it's like facing the reconning of credit card debt. It sucks to go through it, but it's fantastic when you're no longer under the bank or whoevers thumb, and you can build a life, family and systems that are growing positively instead of constant pressure and tail chasing. The only ones who really suffer or don't benefit from conservation and long-range planning are people who live for today and the HWT, bankers, and dirt ball profiteers who really are just low life party should never end types anyway. There are tons and tons of small easily obtained savings and waste that we can go after before thinking about massive system changes. I'm not some pie in the sky dreamer greenie. I'm not some idealistic social commie wealth redistributor. I don't think capitalism is evil in itself. I view capitalism as any machine, but more so like an engine. There are very few places, including race tracks, where we will let unbridled power run unregulated and unchecked because it means death and mayhem will ensue. Only elitist capitalists benefit from unchecked, unregulated free markets because they are insulated from the detrimental effects. I'm well aware that total electrification is impossible and undesirable. I'm well aware that oil is an indispensable commodity that allows life for 6-7 billion people who would otherwise starve to death very quickly without it. These are all the more reasons that conservation, especially of oil, is a healthy long-term goal for everyone. Our national parks are a prime example of long-term vision that doesn't have or need a profit motive to create benefits. Ducks unlimited is another that actually creates immense profit side streams. Both do, actually. I'm old enough that I just barely remember the Ohio River burning. I grew up with orange coal creeks and black mountains all around me. Humans don't have to destroy everything through climate. We're doing a great job one little piece at a time, and you don't have to shut the world down to turn that around. It's all about achieving balance between individuals and the group. Swaying too far either way only creates friction that eventually leads to fighting and war, which once again benefits the super rich elitists the most. So, tying back to my opening statements. Conservation and long-term planning help everyone and the planet, including extreme capitalists (although not as grossly), while claiming it's all just natural breeds an F-it, there's no point worrying about it or even trying attitude. In short, there's nothing to be gained but short-term profit in your view even if you're correct. Good day to you!
@pascalbercker7487
@pascalbercker7487 6 месяцев назад
It is to me a tragic situation that Greenland - in the pursuit of enabling so-called "green energy" (which is mostly not really "green") - that it will probably openup gigantic mines to go after all sorts of metals needed with huge and potentially devastating environmental consequences.
@-LightningRod-
@-LightningRod- 7 месяцев назад
best perspective of scale so far, 'muy goat herderfriends dads hereded goats 350 meters up there not to long ago", and i DO want to be that grain that tips the scales friend.
@StressRUs
@StressRUs 6 месяцев назад
A classic example of academic myopia. The issue staring us all in our faces is HEAT, and the role of heat in melting global ice, the consequence of sea level rise, and the importance of melting ice in our global cooling system, particularly as we continue to burn fossil fuels and produce ever more heat energy. So, here are the facts, apparently missed in the over 2 hrs. of academic meandering: 1.2 trillion tons of global ice are melting annually (Copernicus), so 3.3 billion tons per day; the 321 million cubic miles of oceans into which that melt water flows are heating to 70 degF in mid-latitudes, and finally being evaporated into 1 trillion tons of water vapor (most potent GHG) every day. This is our planet's AC system, along with radiant loss back into space. So, what? C3S predicts that 2/3rds of the 5 million cubic miles of ice will have melted by 2,100, 76 yrs. hence, and that extrapolates to 2,138 for total loss of global ice, or 115yrs hence. Another source just predicted that 80% of Himalayan glaciers will have melted by 2,100, so all gone by 2.119, leaving south central Asian rivers bone dry. We continue to mindlessly burn 8 billion tons of coal a year, and 100 million barrels of oil a day, generating the bulk of global heat energy production: the equivalent of 13.3 Hiroshima yield nuclear bomb blasts per second (HpS) (ref-Eliot Jacobson), or 1,149,120 per day, where each releases 63 trillion BTUs into the environment. The average American, who can afford it, continues to drive, fly, or cruise off willy nilly burning 13.3 million barrels of oil per day. And, what a surprise (?), the global ice keeps melting at an astronomical rate, the oceans keep heating, and the skies are more filled with clouds of water vapor, as the rain/snow/hail rains down in floods. And, all the while, the "academics" measuring the myopic effects of the melting ice continue to ignore their secondary school physics: one pound of ice absorbs 144 BTUs of heat energy as it melts into water. So, 3.3 billion tons of ice absorbs...BTUs?
@anthonymorris5084
@anthonymorris5084 6 месяцев назад
Glaciers have been melting and sea levels have been rising uninterrupted for the last 10,000 years. Nothing died.
@StressRUs
@StressRUs 6 месяцев назад
@@anthonymorris5084 Still on the pipe, eh, tony?
@anthonymorris5084
@anthonymorris5084 6 месяцев назад
@@StressRUs Refute the argument or stfu.
@StressRUs
@StressRUs 6 месяцев назад
@@anthonymorris5084 Hard to refute an argument from someone so uninformed about basic climate science, including thermodynamics. We are just way, way too far apart in basic climate science knowledge to have an intelligent dialog, so goodbye.
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