Percy Jackson Season 1 Finale - TheMythologyGuy discusses 

It definitely isn't as warranted as the movie or book versions, makes you wonder why they watered his character down for this.

It sounds like they changed the circumstances of Gabe turning to stone because of the changes to his character. And I understand why they changed his character, they didn’t want to bring up trauma in people who have been abused, so they cut it down a lot. And they changed it to Gabe simply finding the head instead of Sally or Percy deliberately showing it to him. Did he deserve to die? Hell no. I realized that from the first episode. But I also think some fans would be upset if it wasn’t included.

Sally and Gabe’s dynamic just felt... off. I don’t think they felt comfortable tackling such a heavy topic as abuse and pulled their punches. As a result, even if he was a jerk, Gabe felt more pathetic than dangerous. Definitely another case where the movie was more accurate than the books.

@@jetthayward4810They actually put out an announcement saying that they toned him down because they thought he might trigger people in a visual medium. Id argue that a certain level of triggering is kinda necessary in order to do the book justice and make Gabe’s death meaningful though. (Plus it has the same flaw as the movie where now whoever finds his body is gonna die too💀)

I am glad they changed the manner of death. He wasn't sentenced to death. He wasn't murdered. His downfall was his own selfish and self entititled actions. It was addressed to Percy. Percy would have known what it was and exercised care. Had he not opened someone else's mail he would have been fine. So I'm okay with his death. I definitely prefer it to Sally being a murderer. She stood up for herself and kicked him out. This consequence is all on him.

Kratos: "So, you desire this which I took from Ares corpse? For what purpose?"

@@samurexatlas7373 Percy: I wish to give it to Hades to save my mother

​​@@SonicSpeedGaming759 Kratos: "Make no sense. Why would you not simply KILL Hades and pull your mother out of the Underworld?"

@@SonicSpeedGaming759 Even going by Young Kratos' mindset, he would likely toss the helm to Percy. Probably knocking him down before walking away into ashes.

@@Hounlaiga Percy: I don't have that kind of power.

I loved his portrayal of Zeus, he felt very intimidating and powerful. It’s sad we won’t get him for the later seasons 😔

Rest in Peace Zavala. I will miss you.

​@@lexsavage3311 "godspeed commander Zavala"

I figured it must've been shortly after, he looks sick in the episode. Such a shame to lose such a legendary man.

I was thinking Sterling K. Brown for the next Zeus.

Body language and acting is what matters for a god, because they take so many different forms that personality is the only way to accurately identify a god.

If we saw a sudden flash when he's got a beard/today then, flash to his "modern/clean cut" suit and well groomed look. That suggests tge vanity of Zeus mirroring the modern times, but his presence was perfect.

Final question via Annabeth's Disney product plug - would you be excited to see Percy Jackson at a Disney theme park??

exactly, that's what I thought and it gives the seriousness of the god's actions much more depth.. and personally I always wondered what would've happened if they didn't make the deadline. I think its a cool change

That, and to show Zeus being self centered enough to not accept a tie to his war, he has to win because he’s the “top god” and the rest of the gods stroke/navigate around his ego

He's the DID But we'll get Tyson to replace him

​@@theanimeunderworld8338If they ruin tyson im going to freak out

@@Jrsonicyt-is-weird Impossible to ruin Tyson.

​@@jackreynolds3465tell that to the movies

@@jackreynolds3465 I mean the movies manage to mess him up so it's not impossible.

I kinda wish Poseidon had looked a bit regretful when Percy asked if he dreamed about Sally- a nod to how he said he was sad to have had Percy lead the hard life of a hero in the book. We needed a hug too.

He probably forgot it

Trying to remember and doesn't it later come out he used the labyrinth?

Thats because he used the labyrinth. Introducing teleportation powers, WILL create dozens of future plot holes, unless the power is hemmed in extremely.

​he actual text from the book "He slashed his sword in an arc and disappeared in a ripple of darkness." So yea, that fits the show well enough

He did do that, but it was off screen so it doesn't really matter

I was about to say his conversation with Ares was important… but his conclusion from that conversation was that Clarisse was the lighting thief soooo

@@zolove_ If it wasn't for Grover, Percy wouldn't of linked the lighting bolt to Ares.

@@crunchyoghurt Except he specifically said that the bag Ares gave him was what had the bolt so even then.

But it didn't serve any plot relevance in the show, since they got to their destination at that point anyway, and did they even say they were traffickers in the show?.. Yeah, sure, it develops Grover's character as someone who is linked with nature, but uhhhh why is he in this quest again (I mean from the standpoint of bringing something to the table as a team member)?

Grover is barely in book 2, at least until near the end. (and the very start) I mean, they "could" give him more scenes, but that would deviate from the books again, at take time away from other characters.

@@johnyshadowAnd add needless filler scenes if it's anything more than a few short shots of him weaving and unweaving the bridal train until the others show up.

😂

Not that it matters but I think 8 comments on a single video is a bit much

@@JustACactus616if you’re pointing it out, it obviously does matter to you, at least a little. If it’s not spam or hate comments, who cares?

​@@JustACactus616No, it's not. You can say anything as many times as you want.

Both of those guys are loosers.

I’m confused, what more did Grover do in the books?

​@@zolove_he talked to the dog that helped them i guess

​@@Jrsonicyt-is-weirdbut that didn't work out

@@Deathstorm927 he helped distract medusa

@@zolove_he helped distract Medusa, he got and returned the pink poodle which helped them buy the tickets to the train, he caught Percy and annabeth from falling to their deaths after the tunnel of love, he tried to sacrifice himself to save Percy’s mom in the underworld, and he was constantly sniffing out monsters for Percy and annabeth (even though half the time they ignored him). Grover has little moments in the books that could be easily cut out, and was cut out of the show, but those are his moments and without them he’s kind of just there tagging along.

Or take the difficult yet rewarding stance that single mothers are a powerhouse in today’s society. If you’re not gonna do the character, right, don’t include the bad character in the first place. They highlight other childhood struggles throughout the series, why not this one?

Yeah, I feel like a lot of the issues like this are because it seems the show wasn’t given enough time to work with. I was expecting the show to be a bit longer, which would have given more time to show exactly how bad Gabe is.

I agree that would have been epic camera work and would have really shown the sheer insanity of the series and the fights Percy gets in.

See I always figured since Kronos gave luke back biter, it just transported him to Kronos or mount Tam and that was its only ability.

yeah it’s literally the whole point of the prophecy that Percy needs to make a choice

Ah you’re right. I feel dumb for not considering that was Kronos’ plan

@@TheMythologyGuy1that made me wonder about the pit scorpion scene from the book. We know from the books that Kronos plans on using Percy for the prophecy to “make a decision to save or destroy Olympus”. Obviously he wants to destroy it, so he needs Percy alive. So why would Luke try to kill Percy in the first book? I just reread the series, and that was one small plot hole I noticed. Maybe I’m missing something but it’s curious.

@@TheFoobMan hes near camp he can get healed Luke just needed an escape i think

@@TheFoobManI think Thalia was the plan at that time. Golden Fleece, Thailia, Kronos Revolution.

More like Percy is told by others who's who

I just truly don’t care about this like some people do.

@@maciedixon3983 "I just truly don’t care about this like some people do." Okay... Good for you, I guess... To me and almost everyone else it's like Rick and the writers of the TV series just didn't want to have *any* type of intrigue or mystery or suspense in the TV adaptation... The main trio just solve everything before it happens... In bouts of concentrated, tone-deaf impulsivity, season one of the TV series actually has the gall to have the main characters just constantly exposition dump all the info of what they're about to face before they do it... "Don't let the viewer figure things out, please...! Just tell them early on and right away and have the characters go, "Anyways..." or "Alright..."" It constantly blew my mind whenever season one of the TV series had the fortitude of a trouble-seeking 12-year-old who is simply incapable of not spoiling the plot for others... No sense of discovery, no tense moment, no danger whatsoever, and no moments where we, the viewers, get lost in this world because we already know *immediately* everything about who and what everything does in this universe... Season one of the TV series just completely skipped over the characters learning experiences throughout the story... The main trio pretty much knew how to just walk into a place and *immediately* know how to defeat a monster and their weaknesses like the Lotus Eaters and Procrustes... I watched Dominic Noble's Lost in Adaptation review of episode six of the TV series and I remember him making the analogy of, "This series is genuinely starting to feel like the second playthrough of an RPG where you know all the twists in advance and make very different decisions just to see what will happen," and if that isn't the perfect analogy of how the encounters with monsters played out in season one, then I don't know what is... The struggles and being able to put myself in the main trio's shoes were pretty much none existent in season one... As someone who enjoys "a coming of age hero's journey" story like this I didn't have the feeling of the main trio trying to get better at things and the sense of discovering things and letting us get lost in the world. Season one *completely* missed out on the feeling of this newbie that's just starting out in this fantasy world when I came to Percy's characterization and arc.

@@whattheworldneedsiscreativ6421 not reading all this. I just fundamentally disagree. But to each their own. If you really don’t like it, just don’t watch it.

​@@maciedixon3983Stop mindlessly defending this shit, then. Critical thinking is better than blind praise in every way.

That's not their godly form, their true appearance cannot be seen by humans n demigods. Btw, in th case of zeus he appears as a swirling pillar of fire n light surrounded by lightningbolts, hera is a supernova, babi n nekbeth are a giant black crowned vulture n a large silver baboon, seth is a fiery sandstorm w/ a black amoeba in th center, poseidon is briefly described as flashes of green energy n th plains of tartarus appear like reptilian skin w/ th trees like black insect hairs

The movies did it perfectly.

@@Gradestar10 that’s not really what I meant. I meant in their 15-20 foot still human forms.

Doesn't seem like he stuck around to see it

He left a reply on the video regarding that

@@Synthesyn342 after seeing my comment :)

That end credit scene was so bad. The movies did it much much better and effective.

The scorpion scene wouldn't make sense. Kronos needs Percy alive for the prophecy, Luke trying to kill him with it would go directly against his master's wishes. Wanting to recruit Percy but letting his anger get the better of him and attacking Percy with his sword is much more fitting

@@rickyzeitler7169 Easy fix for that (granted it'd take until the second season to bear fruit) is to have the scorpion scene, Kronos castigates Luke for it in one of Percy's dreams, and Luke alluding to the eventual revival of Thalia as a failsafe.

@@dustrose8101 I guess that would work, but I honestly preferred the sword fight

I believe it's in TLO when they're fighting on the bridge, Kronos says he would have preferred Percy's body.

Titans Curse

​@theanimeunderworld8338 it happens in both books I believe

They always have a chance to introduce the curse later down the road

​@@Priorrr no.

It’s a little Weird how they never seem to mention or Elude to that power again as they did in the lighting thief

@@ethan.randolph yeah I know I think it was too much plot convenience

In th 2nd n 3rd books he doesn't use this power cause he simply doesn't need it, their goals in these 2 books are different, while in th 4' he gives th sword to th telekines so that they can reforge it in its original form of a scythe to kronos, n in fact for th entire 5th book it's kronos who uses th former sword as his old scythe

@@Gradestar10 there are moments when Luke retreats normally when he could have teleported, Rick probably just didn’t want him teleporting all over the place, and only did it the first time for aesthetic which is completely fine

Well, to plan them. I don't think he knows CGI, but can visualize what he expects.

You're saying that because all of you want an exact copy of the events in the books. The writers are not doing that because they have to work around the runtime that they are given. They also didn't opt for spectacle, they instead chose to focus on character drama.

But they’re doing what they can with the time they’re given. You should be directing all this to Disney. Half an hour is not enough to show what was in the books.

@@kordei-7839Yeah, not to mention episodes keep getting shorter!

​@@hikari9262The movies already did that yet the writers of the movies were persecuted by the fans bruh 🙄

Wow one thing before he was a burden and just not used at all he did 2 things the whole season lol

Edit to add: Grover's only purpose in this show, I swear, was to have hooved feet...like he existed (in the show) so the winged-shoes would slip off of his hooved feet. They legitimately ruined his moments and purpose in the show by constantly undermining him, sending him away, or generally misusing him. Poor actor, honestly.

21:20 You gotta watch the post-post credits scene, my guy! They definitely address the Gabe drama and they definitely killed a toxic (ex-)boyfriend in a horrible way instead of, in the books, justifiably murdering a physically and emotionally abusive asshole...

@@redfyresasoiaf im really confused about your Grover point. What other important things did he do in the first book that I’m forgetting? I’m genuinely asking. Rick really didn’t even seem to know what to do with Grover himself until book 3

@@redfyresasoiaf In the book Sally purposefully kills off Gabe, in the show it’s Gabe’s own fault in a way because he’s opening packages that don’t belong to him.l

@@zolove_ In the show, Grover is there basically to have cloven hooves so the winged shoes come off easier than Percy's human feet would have allowed. We get some funny (and honestly not funny) banter from him here and there but he's mostly just in the background. Which is a shame, because I would have liked to see him useful. Yeah, in the books he doesn't do much for a while but at least he does ANYTHING (aside from, like I said, being a satyr) and he actually feels like Percy's friend the whole time. The entire 'trio' hardly feels like friends until way too late into the show, which is not helpful to Grover's or Annabeth's cause, haha

Couldn’t have said it better

I agree! The last episode was better in my opinion, so if they just keep adjusting hopefully season 2 will be really good, because I honestly do want this show to be good

best thing about the show was getting to wait for this man’s opinion on it later

​@@frenchish1177 fr (I haven't even finished episode 5)

Honestly,is so much fun and way more entertaining! ​@@frenchish1177

Yea I agree there are way to many people who try to tell everyone else how cool and Different they are when they tell people that your dumb for liking something .

I like lance reddick, but I do wish they gave him the hair and beard.

It is not new, it is from the books. And yeah It was weird and started a couple plot holes. Less so here, I think, since it seems like he needs a door frame or arch to activate it, unlike the book, where he just slash a gateway open.

​@@justsomeoneabittired1273 It doesn't create plot holes. In th 2nd n 3rd books luke doesn't use it to enter th camp cause it's simply not necessary, in those books their goals are different, while in th 4th book he gives th sword to th telekines so that they can reforge it in its original form scythe for kronos, this is why they use th labyrinth to enter th camp, also cause no 1 in th camp knew hb th presence of an entrance to th labyrinth inside th forest, so luke would have had th surprise effect on his side

i wonder if that had to do with who the director was for each?

3 was pretty good as well

​@@dawntreader1247 oh they have different directors ?

3 and 6 really sucked for me.

I liked 1, 2 was decent, 3 was a meh episode, 4, pretty good, 5 an amazing episode, 6, No. 7, mid, 8, I LOVE THIS!!!

Annabeth is terrible.

​@@cyrusthegreat3299 I wouldnt go that far my only problem was she was too emotionless I thought the rest was nice

@@cyrusthegreat3299nah, she had a lot of good moments. Having finished the series, I think it was more a problem of directing and the script for the kids. While there weren’t enough moments, there were definitely times I saw book annabeth in her

Yeah you being kissass on Riordan ass. Keep spamming this same comment all over Mythology guy vid

That was a lot of bullshit said by him, imagine saying shit about the movie casting while looking at the show. Rly disappointing how he was sell out

Oh yeah I didn’t even think of that

I think it's intended to resemble the blade of a scythe, but yeah it doesn't really work.

I mean. Celestial Bronze passes through mortals, doesn't it? So hypothetically the bronze side passes through them only to be hit by the steel.

​@@tomhur1yeah that's true, though the edge wouldn't be sharp. It'd be like whacking them with a thin metal rod, but to be fair that's still pretty effective as a blunt weapon I guess.

What’s with your spelling?

@@justaguywhowatchesyoutube5588prolly a non native speaker

Yup, that's the feeling I got as well. However, if that's what they were going for i feel like it should've been depicted clearer.

@@sebastianloaiza8364 Maybe when talking post-hug?

It's better to show that happen not imply it might have happened

@@MONKEYDZETS Precisely, we shouldn't need a breakdown to explain the point of a scene.

It says to me, we think our audience is dumb and childish. But they will consume our products anyways. No thinking involved.

They most likely will make a season two many liked the show so it looks like season two will happen.

I can only hope… still shocked how he butchered his OWN CHARACTERS, I am not o optimistic

@@nicklausrichardson5927 which is fair, but it was also his first screenplay

@@authorwastaken fair. I just hope he learns to make Annabeth not the most insufferable character in the entire show.

In th 2nd n 3rd books luke doesn't use this power cause it's simply not necessary, while in th 4th book he gives th sword to th telekines so that they can reforge it in its original form scythe for kronos, this is why they use th labyrinth to enter th camp

He took several norse mythological names.

I mean I always interpreted the "Fail to save what matters most" line to mean failing to save his mom from the underworld.

@@tomhur1I always thought it was about not stopping Luke before he became their biggest threat.

I'd you look at the best and worst episodes, Rick has written the best episodes The ones without him, worst

He not the only one not like it lol