its because the average gamer does not give a shit about a webcam. It's not a professional device, it's not made for meetings etc. it's made for gamers. all these slight upgrades cost money and will end up making the device cost even more, even though the target customer does not give a shit. if you want a laptop with a good webcam, buy one that is meant for having your online meetings etc. if you want this performance but also a webcam, you're not the target customer, buy an external webcam.
Still pretty expensive here in the UK. But after your review of the legion pro 7i , I just got the 4080 version off Lenovos site, with bank holiday discount of £260 off. Also if you go custom build it’s cheaper. All together I got the Gen 8 with 4080 i9-13900HX for £2200. Absolute great deal.
I found this one for 1800 euro too. Very good deal. Buying it. But mine comes with i7-13650 , 4080, 16 gb ram only and 165 hz screen. But still, awesome deal for an 4080.
Hi Alex, the Acer Helios 16 & 18 are out now. Have you received a sample for review yet? Especially the 16 should be interesting in comparison with Legion I7 and SCAR16..
Ohhhh godddd!!! I'm still here and I thought this review would never come 😭😭😭 you won't believe. I refresh RU-vid every day to see if this review has come. bless your soul and have a good day!!! Also it doesn't seem to available in most markets? Do you think it's because they are trying to sell the scar 16 4080 first and then launch this??
Firstly really good review, 11 mins and a lot of useful information! What was the ambient temperature used in the tests? Couldn’t find it in the detailed review on the review website. I have the scar version (same cooling/performance as g16 but different cosmetic) and my temps are literally identical to review’s with around 25 degrees ambient.
Thank you for your kind words! I just checked, the temperature for "off/environment" is the baseline for our test, which was 25C in this review, so it aligns perfectly with your room temperature!
in Germany the ASUS ROG Strix G16 G614JZ-N3006W Eclipse Gray, Core i7-13650HX, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, GeForce RTX 4080, DE Version costs 2599€ at our retailers, in comparison to other 4080 & 4090 notebooks it seems to be the best bang for the buck for an "high-end" gaming notebook these days, though of course its still too expensive for my liking ;)
@@NotebookcheckReviews it`s common knowledge that i7 and i9 don't differ enough in Gaming benchmarks to justify the price difference, my guess is it won't be much different with this model.
@@NotebookcheckReviews additionally the mentioned model also has a 16", 1920x1200, 142ppi, 165Hz, non-glare, IPS, 7ms, 100% sRGB, NVIDIA G-Sync display, which seems worse on first glance, because you will lose pixel density (it will be still high enough) & a few Hz though on second though this gaming notebook will have an even longer battery life & the lower display resolution will give you less headache in regards to VRAM usage in the future where 12GB might not be enough for 1440p/1600p AAA gaming at some point. In my point of view in many triple AAA titles you won't be able to reach 240 Hz in 1600p even today with this hardware anyway. Though for content creation I'd keep the great 1600p screen of the tested model here.
That sounds quite expensive for that configuration. I live in Ireland and picked up a Lenovo Legion 7i 4080 (i9-13900HX, 32GB, 1TB) for €2550 with 2 years on-site warranty included in the cost. Lenovo have flash sales from time to time that are well worth checking out.
Hi there, i'm willing to get a new gaming laptop, and so far i found ASUS ROG STRIX G16 looks interesting. Still not sure on which power to go... budget around 2.000 euro. Any advice/recommendation will be helpfully, Thanks in advance.
Love the laptop. Mine has DDR5 5600MHz from factory, and it is running at that speed (manufacturing date 12/2023 so a late model). What is a quite annoying, is the SSD led, which is a simple fix, two screws on the back on both sides, a little work with the guitar pick and a little black tape solves the problem. I miss the numpad, used to a more cramped Lenovo Legion keyboard with a numpad, so have a few mistypes. But it is nice to type on. Love a good keyboard. The display has no light bleed (240Hz), it´s nice, there are few preset options in the Armory crate. Surprisingly it has enough umph even in silent mode and Robocop Rogue city maxed out on native resolution run´s 70-80 FPS without DLSS (I have a Arc A770LE in my desktop occupied nonstop by my son, and I must say that XeSS looks better than DLSS on quality). In performance mode it goes over 120 FPS, but is is noticeably louder. Not too much but loud in comparison to my older Legion 5. The second thing is, that God knows why, Advanced Optimus is not enabled by default. Had to do it manually according the the ASUS FAQ . So you loose a ton of performance and it stutters. I like the more or less clean design. I am more conservative side and until now had only Lenovo laptops, which are great but got to expensive. With these specs I paid 2450€,for a Lenovo I would have to pay 3200€. So it was a question of price performance. This is a very nice laptop.
That's a great deal you got on this machine. I needed to upgrade from my lenovo ideapad gtx 1650 2019. I'm looking at getting the legion 9i gen 9, but holy moly, that laptop is very expensive here in the UK. £3570 for the Lenovo legion 9i with i9 14900HX - RTX 4090. The i9 14900HX - RTX 4080 selling at £3150 right now. This is a 3.2k Mini - LED panel 165hz 1200 nits. I'm a bit confused if it's worth it with the legion 9i or go ahead with the rog strix scar G16 with i9 13980HX - RTX 4080 selling at £2900 right now. This is a 2.5k Mini - LED 240hz @ 1100 nits. Am i going to loose much power if I don't get i9 - 4090?
@@godiananyanwu5894 I have the Strix G16 not the Scar 16. The only real difference is the mini led display and some RGB. But the Scar costs 3200 euro. I also upgraded from Lenovo AMD 4600h and rtx2060 2020. The performance difference between the 4080 and 4090 is like 8-10%. Not worth the extra money. Well Lenovo is Lenovo. So more premium and better build quality. Asus is more the budget friendly manufacturer with compromises. It can have some coil whine, mine has. But mine is not bad. But I read about cases when people returned it. I also read about Lenovo etc. to have coil whine too. So it is a lottery, and the question of how sensitive your hearing is. Well, it takes a lot of juice under load and showing a desktop CPU, into such a small form factor has its price. The i9 gen 9 is beautiful.
@@godiananyanwu5894 HM. My answer disappeared 🤔 well the difference between the 4080-4090 is like 8% in performance. Asus is cheaper and less premium, with a plastic body, Lenovo is more premium but expensive.
I had this for about a week before i returned it. Build is subpar for the money, RGB everywhere, terrible miniLED screen blooming, coil whine, loud. The gaming laptop stereotypes fit here perfectly and it is not good.
You will always get blooming with a MiniLED panel. Asus lets you toggle the backlight to mimic a traditional single-zone screen. Which gets rid of the blooming when you do not need HDR or additional brightness.
I returned mine too. The laptop itself was good for my use case (not gaming, data science), but the keyboard was just awful. Travel is good, the problem is that you couldn't distinguish the keys. With RGB off is even worse. Just unacceptable for the price. Pity, because I really liked everything else in the machine, and performance was great in all applications I tested.
The external display might be the culprit since it "activates" the NVIDIA GPU increasing idle and low-load power consumption considerably. When we do our WiFi tests, only the iGPU is used.
@@NotebookcheckReviews thanks for your quick reply. How did you active the igpu? Because I will be using it for work and start playing video games, but at the moment I will be using it mainly for work.
It's kinda sad that we will never recieve the rtx 4080 version in my country. I expected so much that will release it. Asus next year should have biometrics next year and maybe a few more ports to make it preferred and just fix the coil whine already.
Funny I got this same one but it was a i9-13980HX, Nvidia's RTX 4080, 32 GB DDR5-4800 RAM, and a 2TB SSD. And also came with very cool backpack top carry it. For some reason they upgraded the ram and the HD. And only for 2.750 euros
I bought the 4090 SKU of this laptop and I've mostly loved it. I'm coming from a mid-2019 Razer Blade 15 Advanced with the i7-9750H, 2080 Max-Q and 4K OLED display. I limited myself to laptops with Mini-LED displays, as I didn't want to be losing so much coming from OLED, and at least I gained concerning maximum brightness, refresh rate and G-Sync support. I would recommend it to pretty much anyone other than someone who really needs their gaming laptop to blend in with a work environment. I'm glad I didn't cast aside all my bad experiences and go with Razer again.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Thank you. Keep up the good work! You guys produce my favorite reviews for consumer tech products because of all the objective data. Other website reviews say "screen looks pretty good", NotebookCheck provides chromaticity diagrams.
@@Phil8719 I'm not sure what the difference is in practice. I know that the difference used to be that actual G-Sync displays had additional G-Sync hardware installed, like some Nvidia proprietary module, and I think there used to be a bigger delta in features between actual G-Sync displays and G-Sync Compatible, but that was back when VRR was in its infancy. As far as I'm aware, the display is just G-Sync Compatible. Can't imagine it'd be space or economically viable to have a module installed on a laptop internal display. You can do G-Sync in both SDR and HDR, you can use Nvidia's G-Sync indicator, you can use it in both Exclusive Fullscreen only or with windowed apps also. Not sure what else there is? I think Reflex also basically superseded some of the benefits of the G-Sync hardware.
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I get one this rog strix 16 and have problem with cable to LCD easy to broken.. if open FB (short video are glittering).. if getting hot fan are so noisy..
Whenever I watch a review on a laptop with a 4080 or 4090 I skip straight to the battery life before seeing the whole video. So wow. On that point alone this is amazing.
But is battery on such powerful notebooks really that important? You can not really access all the performance on battery anyways, and our WiFi battery do not use the dGPU anyways. I’m genuinely curious, do you play games on battery?
@@NotebookcheckReviews I want to have the cake and eat it so to speak. Whenever, I see a laptop review am constantly asking myself what am giving up and what its going to cost me. No you don't get the best performance on battery but we are all still hoping for the best of both worlds, when we spend money: a notebook with desktop-replacement-level performance that still maintains portability. Wishful thinking, yes, but still one hopes
I put my chargers all over the place. I have usb c pd where I just need some form of charging for basic tasks. Then I put the 280 watt charger where I need to use the nicer video card power.
The Predator Helios 16 4080 with Mini-LED is available now, really hoping you get to review this unit. Acer have a sale on this weekend in my region and this unit is offered with a 20% discount (still over €3000!)
We do have one in the studio with the QHD IPS and an RTX 4060. I was not aware that the 16" version comes with a MiniLED panel, I thought it was only the 18" variant.
I prefer minimal keyboard RGB with only the character glowing rather than walls of the keys, something like Pro Duo. The half sized right shift key is a deal breaker.
Do you plan doing a full review of the yoga pro 9i miniLED in the near future? Its already out with all the options, we would like to see performance figures and thermals/noise lvls. As always, your videos are topnotch, detailed and straight forward so keep it up strong🔥!
Yes please, I’m seriously considering the new Yoga Pro 9 14 inch but have heard the battery life is average to poor. Would love a review by Notebookcheck, the notebook has been out for a few weeks in Germany.
@@Elesti im more curious about thermals and noise levels. I'm planning to either get the yoga pro 9i 16inch or a legion slim7 gen 8 7940hs. One has better display the other has much better CPU and probably lower noise levels. But we have to see the reviews to decide
Is anyone here stupid enough to believe this laptop has a 10hr battery life web surfing? Every other reviewer has it 5-6 hours. The laptops he compares it to are all intel the the only amd laptop in the tests gets 4 hrs battery life.. lmao.
It is what we got from our test. Why would you make up those numbers? How did other reviewers tested their SKUs? With what setting, display brightness etc.? Actually there have been two AMD laptops in the comparison group ...
How come it become more affordable than other 4080? its one of the most expensive with mediocre build quality. at 2300 USD you can get Legion Pro 7i with i9 32GB and 4080. Thats Strix is asking 600 USD more money without any real advantage. currently the Legion Pro 7i even with its downgrades compared to gen 7 is bang for the back MUST BUY 4080 laptop at 2300 USD!
Apperently only if you live in English speaking countries. In the Netherlands and Germany this configuration has consistently sold at 3500€ - 3800€. No idea why.
Hi, might I ask where you ordered it ? I looked it up and in my country (France) it says that it’ll be available for 4500€ (taxes included), for the 64go ram version, 2to ssd, 4090 and i9
@@bugbuster8598 why is that relevant, what kind of effect does it have (honest question); never had a acer laptop, but reviews of the past ones are all really good including the gaming ones
@@nemesis7884 if I recall correctly, previous models had motherboard placed properly. Why is that relevant, you ask? Well, let's say that you bought a cheaper lower-spec version of it. With, let's say, 16GB of RAM in a single stick. You play with it for some time and you enjoy it, but you realise you could gain significant performance boost in many games if you had additional 16 GB RAM stick to make it 32 total or even 2x8GB sticks for dual channel. You buy RAM, unscrew the bottom cover and... uh oh, you gotta remove the WHOLE motherboard! With all important and fragile components that you cannot replace, since they are soldered. THIS is why turning motherboard upside down is a terrible idea with no pros whatsoever - it doesn't really improve cooling, make laptop lighter or thinner or anything. Instead, it essentially blocks a significant amout of users from what's left for laptops to upgrade by blocking it with the most crucial components of a laptop that can be easily damaged. From what I remember, the only thing you can change without unscrewing whole thing into pieces is the WiFi card, so you couldn't even expand you drive space with new SSD if you want to😂 Edit: don't get me wrong, I actually think it could've been one of the best laptops on the market! But with fuckups like this on the Acer side and usually poor wuality of materials used, I'm not convinced.
You can check our written review for our stresstest results: www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Strix-G16-G614JZ-laptop-review-Clear-the-stage-for-the-RTX-4080.701775.0.html
Great review. I'm so confused rightnow. I needed to upgrade from my lenovo ideapad gtx 1650 2019. I'm looking at getting the legion 9i gen 9, but holy moly, that laptop is very expensive here in the UK. £3570 for the Lenovo legion 9i with i9 14900HX - RTX 4090. The i9 14900HX - RTX 4080 selling at £3150 right now. This is a 3.2k Mini - LED panel 165hz 1200 nits. I'm a bit confused if it's worth it with the legion 9i or go ahead with the rog strix scar G16 with i9 13980HX - RTX 4080 selling at £2900 right now. This is a 2.5k Mini - LED 240hz @ 1100 nits. Am i going to loose much power if I don't get i9 - 4090?
There is a pretty considerable bump going from the 4080 to the 4090, but both are very fast. You have to keep in mind that you lose a lot of the more premium feel when going from the Legion 9 to the Scar. Have you seen our Legion 9i video? And if you are not married to the MiniLED panel, the Legion Pro 7 might also be an option. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mC_8QLvIp1o.html
@NotebookcheckReviews After putting everything into consideration, I ordered the maxed out version of this beast some days ago. i9 14900hx paired with the RTX4090 and 64gb ram. Though this was very expensive but here in the UK 🇬🇧 lenovo has a 15% discount going on right now, so i paid £3,506 + £200 3Y premium warranty and accidental damage, which to me was a cheaper option compared to Asus ROG strix scar 16 or 18 2024 model or the Blade 16 or 18 which was around £4,000+ respectively. However, I'm still waiting for this beast to arrive. The nights 🌙 are becoming much longer for me 😅.
I think there might be a mistake in the editing of the video, as it doesn't seem like the built-in microphone audio was used in the brief test you showed. That, or this has a studio-grade built-in mic? Thank you for adding a speaker sample! They sound a bit "thin". On to the device, wow, Asus does near magic on taming Intel, nearly ten hours of battery life! And it doesn't look like there is any meaningful amount of performance left on the table. Not excessively thick, a tame 2.3 kg, an actually decent screen (unlike the Gigabyte, which is definitely compromised on the very low brightness). Exceptional package but for the chassis. I can easily forgive a plastic chassis if it's hundreds of dollars less than the competition, but the written review leads me to believe it's not a particularly high quality one. Coil whine is a bit worrying. Honestly, if it wasn't for the ridiculously good battery life it has, the most impressive thing would be how well behaved the fans sound. The Furmark test on 160 W was *incredibly* quiet, as was Cyberpunk. This three fan layout is doing wonders for Asus. There is one thing that I will have to disagree a bit with you though, in that while yes, 16 GB is a bit underwhelming for this price point, it's slotted RAM instead of soldered. You can usualy upgrade it far more cheaply than buying a capacity upgrade from the manufacturer usually costs. Maybe we got too used to seeing soldered memory, but it's a delight to see replaceable sticks come back again. It's not only great for upgradability, but also repairability and thus, sustainability. Also, shout out to the written review. I've checked it out, and for some reason, it seems better than usual. More opinionated, perhaps? I can't pinpoint why, but I liked it better than most previous ones.
Hi Igor, Thank you, as always, for taking the time for your thorough assessment! :) You are right about the webcam test. For some reason, the Strix did not pick up what I was saying even tho the internal mic had been working a few minutes before. I must have hit the mute button or something. I wanted to add a note in the video, but I must honestly say ... I forgot ;) I really like what Asus is doing with its performance profiles. You can easily adjust everything to your exact use case. Pretty well done! You are of course, right with the RAM situation, you should get it with 32 right from the start in this price range, even if the upgrade is not that much after all. The amazon link I added showed a 32 GB config with a MiniLED screen for 2900$. So maybe just our review sample came with 16GB. I will forward your kind words about the written review to my colleague!
love this laptop! i have only two problems 1- white shadows around the words or the mouse cursor on the darks colours (when background is black or even dark grey) 2- black flickering when booting windows (after typing my password) then the screen comes back to normal any suggestions?
Do you have the Scar with the MiniLED panel? If so, then what you experience is called blooming coming from the MiniLEDs. In armory crate, you can toggle the backlight as a traditional single zone. It is in the display section of the main panel. If you are just on the desktop, I would recommend to you that.
Silent mode is really good. Gives about %65 of the fps on the performance mode which is moderatly loud but even without headphones it wasn’t unbearable. Turbo mode is loud tho.
Thats the Laptop I kept. It has a great performance. I have the RTX4080, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB SSD (2x 2TB Raid0) config and I love it. Should be Future proof for at last 4 years with highest settings. Paid only 3099€ including taxes with the complete asus bundle ROG Fusion II 300 Headset (>100€), ROG Gladius III Mouse (>60€), ROG Backpack and the smaller 100 Watt USB-C Charger (80€) for office use and a huge mousepad worth 40€. Best bang for the buck! Sold some equipment for 200€ and love the laptop.
How in the world did you get it that cheap? That's a heck of a deal. Would cost me in the Netherlands at least 400-500 euros more. Congrats by the way!
Any idea if the laptop will connect to two external displays at the same time? I would like to connect a projector to the HDMI port and an interactive (touchscreen) monitor to one of the Type C ports.
how the hell did they achieve 10hrs of battery life?! other manufacturers need to take note of that. double the legion 7 and with a faster processor! Wonder what that AI chip in the legion is doing then....
@@NotebookcheckReviews @nicholo85 I think it's the 13980hx chip is crazy power efficient. I did some research when I heard these numbers too. Looks like all non hx with J0 die are still alder lake chips repurposed and only the hx chips are raptor lake. And h series also has a beefier 96 iris xe igpu which are more power hungry and hx has only 32. I think it comes to the 13980hx chip. All the hx laptops I've seen this year have battery life upwards of 7 hours. Only asus uses 13980hx. + the ips display should help which some models with hx chips have either 4k or mini led. Hope this helps.
I couldn't believe too when I first saw these results coming out of hx processors which are more efficient than the h series. Turns out actual raptor lake is pretty efficient. Alder lake repurposed chips are not
I am currently using it in quite mode and gpu is set to be in balanced mode in armoury crate. Do I need to change anything else to achieve 10 hrs of video playback?
@@birdperson3180 I'd say put the gpu on eco mode and also go down to 4 power cores and 0 efficiency cores on the CPU. It's all configurable in the armoury crate software
@@NotebookcheckReviews it protrudes a lot, the connection to the lid doesn't look sturdy. Since you have the unit, a few words on how it's been made would help
Can you please comment which one to buy out of Lenovo Legion Pro 7i (2023) RTX 4080 Or Asus Rog Strix Scar (2023) RTX 4080 Which has better thermals? I'm looking to keep the laptop as my only device for atleast 8 years. My usage would include everything except coding and graphic designing.
@@mihael1251 Yes bro, I have been using my current laptop since 8 years. Bought on 13th June 2015, it's a HP Pavilion with 8 GB DDR 3 RAM (1600 MHz), Intel Core i7 5500U, Nvidia GTX 940M. It's still running games for me at 15 FPS at lowest settings.
If your ambient is higher than 23 it will run pretty close to the max temperature range, which isn’t a big deal. You really shouldn’t worry about temps unless it’s causing performance issues. I have the scar 16 4080 and it’s an amazing machine, screen is incredibly good, hdr gives a different joy while playing games.
