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@DasItManes
@DasItManes 11 лет назад
These lectures are brilliant! I have hardly a week left before my exams, and I never really managed to understand permutations all year. Until I saw these lectures. Hats off to you sir, for such excellent explanations!
@fernandolobo8297
@fernandolobo8297 Год назад
Same here!
@eileenmuller7297
@eileenmuller7297 7 лет назад
I''m having an "aha" moment. Thanks for your help.
@oneinabillion654
@oneinabillion654 6 лет назад
Im taking CIE A levels and this is the hardest topic for me. This chapter is in AS but I think that it's the hardest of both AS and A2. Maybe you won't reply to me, but I have to say, thank you for making videos on Perm and Comb. I can't find any other videos that gives a full lesson on the Perm and Comb. of my syllabus's standard.
@prachinpatel7242
@prachinpatel7242 6 лет назад
It’s easy u just need to focus and practice
@oneinabillion654
@oneinabillion654 6 лет назад
@varietychannel5000 These examples are the easiest examples that can be provided for our Permutation and Combination questions. U should take a look at our statistics papers. There will be permutation and combination questions in all the papers
@laibaimran6916
@laibaimran6916 6 лет назад
Not really the hardest, but definitely the trickiest.
@ErnestChiya
@ErnestChiya 4 месяца назад
Whenever I view and watch your videos, I know I will get what I need (They are productive). For that, I thank you.
@NoName-be8vp
@NoName-be8vp 6 лет назад
May God bless you seriously man thank you so much I needed this so badly I have a test this Wednesday and I hope this helps (I believe it really did) you explain it way easier than my teacher does idk what she even talks about. Thank you tho
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 6 лет назад
Best wishes for Wednesday
@SazabiSkythe
@SazabiSkythe 11 лет назад
Because the two L's in HELLO are the same regardless of their arrangement (LL and LL are the same). In the last example, the arrangements R and P can be either RP or PR thus they can be arranged 2! ways.
@ridhimohta9019
@ridhimohta9019 9 месяцев назад
Yes. I have the same doubt
@drae4526
@drae4526 5 месяцев назад
Why dont we divide by 2! Since they are repeated letters
@vishalkrishan8988
@vishalkrishan8988 4 года назад
very good and nice explaining method that you described in the video. many many thanks
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 4 года назад
Thank you
@MCBC_5
@MCBC_5 4 года назад
Really the best explanation I have seen sincere thanks
@dabluedevil1000
@dabluedevil1000 11 лет назад
You Sir, you just saved my exam :') Thanx for your big help. Cheers :)
@drae4526
@drae4526 5 месяцев назад
Why dont we divide hello by 2! Since the ls are repeated
@laibaimran6916
@laibaimran6916 6 лет назад
My concepts just got clearer.
@saniamoursik
@saniamoursik 8 лет назад
Thank you! It really helped.
@ruthannfacey7586
@ruthannfacey7586 4 года назад
Wow.This was amazing ,Thank You so much
@extremegamer619
@extremegamer619 2 года назад
Very clear and concise thank you.
@adielbvepfepfe4179
@adielbvepfepfe4179 2 года назад
but on your first example on HELLO shouldn't we also multiply with 2! for the L's
@sushmitaperi9497
@sushmitaperi9497 2 года назад
Thank you for saving my life! You deserve to be in heaven
@orenoyume9849
@orenoyume9849 3 года назад
thank you! it really helps! I'm done with my tutorial!
@JustAnIdea.Eagle_But-69
@JustAnIdea.Eagle_But-69 4 месяца назад
Appreciate the colour coding
@franc1159
@franc1159 5 лет назад
For parallel, why didnt you multiply the end result by 7 because the P and R could by together after one letter, or two letters, like : A(PR)ALLLE and AA(PR)LLLE etc.
@jnkzkaka
@jnkzkaka 4 года назад
It helps me to answer problems that my math teacher gives me... Thank you😊❤
@VirendraKumar-sx5lf
@VirendraKumar-sx5lf 6 лет назад
thank you sir for such a wonderful explanation
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 6 лет назад
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 11 лет назад
That's what I like to hear!
@salamouna1
@salamouna1 12 лет назад
very clear!!
@SalK-3S3K
@SalK-3S3K Год назад
Confusing. I need to re-watch!
@jiyarahim636
@jiyarahim636 7 лет назад
thanks
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 12 лет назад
They could but would you notice the difference? No. LL is the same as LL even if I swapped the L's around, so don't count it.
@ghozie012
@ghozie012 Год назад
Ohh ok…would our teachers also count it this same way coz I don’t want to fail the exam
@janemayaki3470
@janemayaki3470 12 лет назад
thanks for the tutorial. so how do we know when to divide by the various arrangements like the last example and when not to like the 2nd example
@theresahfosuah3869
@theresahfosuah3869 6 месяцев назад
You have to divide when you see identical letters. when some of the letters are repeating themselves, you divide by their total count factorial. It's vice versa for the 2nd and any other similar example.
@matthewfishermv
@matthewfishermv 8 лет назад
Helpful, thanks!
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 8 лет назад
Cheers
@tarikhamir
@tarikhamir 2 года назад
Thank you so much
@junkheadrooster
@junkheadrooster 12 лет назад
hi, why didnt u divide 5!X3! by 4! for the no of repeated men. in people questions do we not have to do that? and if it were all different letters in the last example, wud we have to divide again? i have a stat exam tomorrow!
@jkgan4952
@jkgan4952 3 года назад
Thanks!
@RiuLenn
@RiuLenn 6 лет назад
thaaanks
@heinzguderian9572
@heinzguderian9572 3 года назад
A machine is used to generate codes consisting of 5 letters (A, B, C, D, E), 3 digits (6, 7, 8) and 2 special characters (#, @). Find the total number of codes that can be generated i. if the letters, digits and special characters must be grouped together
@dingblung9943
@dingblung9943 3 года назад
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!
@accidentalgod6591
@accidentalgod6591 7 лет назад
vry helpful m8 thx!
@samriddhivarshney6547
@samriddhivarshney6547 3 года назад
Thanks a lot
@yasirsiddiqui9291
@yasirsiddiqui9291 8 лет назад
Why didn't we divide the first example of "H E L L O" by 2! because the L's are same.
@trxx3922
@trxx3922 8 лет назад
Because the Ls' rearrangements are 2! And L repeats twice 2! so they cancel out because you are multiplying 4! with 2! and then dividing by 2!
@yourmum123
@yourmum123 8 лет назад
+Yasir Siddiqui i think its because the LL is 1 item
@oneinabillion654
@oneinabillion654 6 лет назад
But u alr count them as one by doing 4! instead of 5!. If u do 5! It means that u considered their arrangements. L1 L2 or L2 L1. So u have to divide 2 to get L1L2 only or L L if u like.
@franc1159
@franc1159 5 лет назад
@@oneinabillion654 if you didnt consider them as the same objects, then you would have to divide by two, but because the restriction makes them one item, we neither multiply by two or divide
@usekaro3882
@usekaro3882 4 года назад
TRΔXX TRΔXX why it was not done like 5!/2!. Because it is done so in the last example of PRALLEL
@AIZSerious
@AIZSerious 8 лет назад
if the two L aren't rearranged in question 1 because you don't notice the difference between them how come in the word parallel you times by 2 and 3 factorial if there is no difference in order of L's and A's
@AIZSerious
@AIZSerious 8 лет назад
please answer???
@joshheaton7144
@joshheaton7144 8 лет назад
The 2 L's in hello are treated like one letter, whereas in PARALLEL they are separate letters.
@AIZSerious
@AIZSerious 8 лет назад
my g
@killthrillabs
@killthrillabs 13 лет назад
Great revision, thanks =].
@1exex
@1exex 11 лет назад
@ExamSolutions how to do it for PARALLEL if I want no TWO L be together ?
@fadedglory94
@fadedglory94 13 лет назад
@ExamSolutions thanks!
@FootyFeverTube7
@FootyFeverTube7 6 лет назад
You saved us
@summayahjeffrey485
@summayahjeffrey485 7 лет назад
Could you use the nPr notation for these examples and if so how?
@superaraw3888
@superaraw3888 8 месяцев назад
7!=7P7
@santoshpun1131
@santoshpun1131 11 лет назад
@ExamSolutions same question from my side too.
@jyotim5800
@jyotim5800 6 лет назад
Why in the last ques 3! And 2! Are divided? Can anyone explain
@cutieepie757
@cutieepie757 7 лет назад
but in hello we also have got 2 L's y u r not considering them as L1 and L2 as u did in the case of women in.second example
@markom3954
@markom3954 7 лет назад
stfu vegan
@Sandhya.gurung
@Sandhya.gurung 6 лет назад
i was also thinking the same
@oneinabillion654
@oneinabillion654 6 лет назад
U have to think logically on this. Every woman are different in the real world but L's are always same
@Immunity5157
@Immunity5157 4 года назад
i'm wondering why he didn't multiply the answer by 2! and im confused
@cutieepie757
@cutieepie757 4 года назад
@@markom3954 stupid as*hole
@peterkamara7850
@peterkamara7850 2 года назад
The first question, 48 should be the ans. The two Ls can be rearranged in each case!
@ZendexJr
@ZendexJr 5 месяцев назад
Bro they are literally the same, It can only Be possible when Two letters are different like The last question (PR and RP) Whats the point of (LL and LL) haha
@adonaimwanya2159
@adonaimwanya2159 Год назад
If they are two l's does that mean they can be arranged 2! Factorial ways?
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 13 лет назад
@fadedglory94 That's right
@YYY-hz6ne
@YYY-hz6ne 6 лет назад
In how many ways can six cats and five dogs stand in a line so that all the cat stand side by side and all the dogs stand side by side?
@PodcastClips910
@PodcastClips910 Год назад
Respect
@giannecarloguarin5484
@giannecarloguarin5484 7 лет назад
the problem in which the items are not together..i tried to use that method in a,b,c,d where a and b must not be together...i got wrong answer. i also tried to get 8! - (no. of ways in which a and b sit together)= the no. of ways they will not be together...i didnt get the same answer
@oswilmathematics
@oswilmathematics 2 года назад
Why is it that the first question on "HELLO", you never divided the answer by 2! as we have 2Ls?
@gracemulenga2183
@gracemulenga2183 11 месяцев назад
There 6red balls and 3 green balls how many ways can they be arranged if the green ball should be together
@natapreza1026
@natapreza1026 7 месяцев назад
Why does he counts the letter L as 1 if there are 2? In combinations, two identical items count as 1, but in this example we are revising permutations examples. Some can clarify this example. Please
@theresahfosuah3869
@theresahfosuah3869 6 месяцев назад
In permutation questions, when you come across identical objects, we consider them as one. The 1 denotes that they are identical or same.
@ethanhuntmp
@ethanhuntmp 7 лет назад
Two L's in 1st example are different L's. So they can replace each other and the answer is 4!*2!=48. Am I right?
@omkararunteja2354
@omkararunteja2354 7 лет назад
YA MAN...THATS WHAT I'M ARGU'NG
@naturallysharon749
@naturallysharon749 7 лет назад
Roman Fesenko yes you're right
@oneinabillion654
@oneinabillion654 6 лет назад
It depends on which exam u are studying for
@oneinabillion654
@oneinabillion654 6 лет назад
For some, there can be repetition of letters but for other u can't. Like my CIE A level statistics, we cannot have repetition so we do this: (4!2!)/2! Which cancels to 4!. Again, this is when there is no repetition of letters
@oneinabillion654
@oneinabillion654 6 лет назад
For all questions on this video, there is no repetition. So keep that in mind
@feero9680
@feero9680 5 лет назад
I think the first example is wrong. I can prove it. Lets take a simple example instead. We have *WOW*. How many different arrangements can we make? 1)We use 3!÷2! we got 3. 2)We consider W as 1 we have 2! and we got 2 So which one is correct? Lets arrange them to find out which working is correct. *WOW* can be arranged into: OWW WOW WWO Theres 3 arrangements! So we use the first working! I hope this helps
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 5 лет назад
My solution is correct. Your workings for the specific situations are correct but you have missed the point of the video. The video is demonstrating how many ways the two letters L stay together, NOT how many different arrangements of the letters in HELLO which would be 5!/2! (Your case 1 for WOW). However I required the LL in my example to be together and so it is 4! as described in the video which leads to 24. This is the case you demonstrated in your example 2. I hope that clears this up for you. Please let me know and I will then remove the comment as it may cause confusion for others if they think my solution is wrong. Thank you.
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 13 лет назад
@fadedglory94 No because the L's are the same.
@jeeanody2708
@jeeanody2708 5 лет назад
Sir why we do not divide the two L's by 2!?
@fadedglory94
@fadedglory94 13 лет назад
@ExamSolutions so if the letters that needed to be together are the same, we do not need to multiply it by 2! ?
@justindizzo17
@justindizzo17 Год назад
On the HELLO example, shouldn't you multiply the answer by 2 coz the LL can be arranged in two different ways as we had seen in the past tutorials? That means the answer should be 48.... Is that right? please advice
@burhanuddinezzi4729
@burhanuddinezzi4729 Год назад
No because we learn that when they are identical u have to divide it and if you multiplied by 2 you would also have to divide the 2 by 2! Again which is 1
@Wassermel0ne
@Wassermel0ne 3 года назад
What if the questions says that P and R cant be together?
@s1nister688
@s1nister688 5 лет назад
Suppose if we had the letter REMEMBRANCE and it asked for arrangements in which all the vowels( EEAE) were next to each other. Would it be (8! x 4!)/2!2!?
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 5 лет назад
I disagree. I make it (8! x 4)/ 2! 2! as when the EEAE are together they can be arranged only in 4 ways not 4! ways
@s1nister688
@s1nister688 5 лет назад
@@ExamSolutions_Maths I've noticed that the vowels EEAE contain 3 Es which would rearrange within themselves. So is it (8! x 4!/3!) / 2! 2! ? Since 4!/3! gives us a 4.
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 5 лет назад
@@s1nister688 That's how I got the 4.
@s1nister688
@s1nister688 5 лет назад
@@ExamSolutions_Maths oh I see. Thanks a lot.
@Nikkizsche
@Nikkizsche 4 года назад
for the HELLO one, wouldn't it be 2! (arrangements within LL themselves as they're interchangeable) x 4! ?
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 4 года назад
No as the L's would still look the same if arranged amongst themselves. What it the difference between HELOL and HELOL none you can notice but your argument has factored in that they are different. So do not multiply by 2!. I hope that makes sense.
@Nikkizsche
@Nikkizsche 4 года назад
@@ExamSolutions_Maths ah I see, thank you!
@fadedglory94
@fadedglory94 13 лет назад
why does the HELLO words doesn't need to be multiplied by 2! ? isn't it the same as the last one?
@ymyrejlaz1500
@ymyrejlaz1500 Год назад
4! Right? But why the answer is 24? It must be 48
@DiaAtiya
@DiaAtiya 10 лет назад
how many ways the letter COLLOQUIUM can be arranged if the consonants have to be next to each other.
@mahmoudm451
@mahmoudm451 10 лет назад
When I arranged the consonants together I got "(C L L Q M) O O U U I" so what I did is 6!/2!*2! for the word as a whole then I multiplied it by 5!/2! for the letters in the bracket which have to be together so I got as a whole " (6!*5!)/(2!*2!*2!) and so the answer I got is 10800 ways. I hope it is correct xD
@Sovehys
@Sovehys 9 лет назад
CLLQM OOUIU => (6! x 5! x 2!) / (2! x 2!)
@dexterns7369
@dexterns7369 6 лет назад
I think it is 6!/(2!*2!)*5!/2!
@oneinabillion654
@oneinabillion654 6 лет назад
Dexter Ns yes I think so too
@bamzcipriano8678
@bamzcipriano8678 6 лет назад
i think,there should be 6!5!/2!2!2! ways or arrangements
@huzaimabintariq943
@huzaimabintariq943 4 года назад
Why didn't you include a 4! For the number of ways men could permute amongst themselves?
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 4 года назад
That was counted in when I did 5!
@huzaimabintariq943
@huzaimabintariq943 4 года назад
@@ExamSolutions_Maths thank you soo much. 🤗. Your solution did work like a charm!
@deepshikhabasnet44
@deepshikhabasnet44 6 лет назад
thanks for listening.. yeah right thanks for teaching with out you videos i would definitely fail
@ironmason
@ironmason 3 года назад
Hello! I have a question. In example 1, why is it 4! and not 4!x2! like that of example 2? Hope to read your response. Thank you!
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 3 года назад
Hello :D This is because, in the 1st example, the restricted items were the same (L's) and not different from each other.
@ghozie012
@ghozie012 Год назад
@@ExamSolutions_MathsI still don’t understand…
@ghozie012
@ghozie012 Год назад
It should be 4!*2!
@martrayleigh7988
@martrayleigh7988 3 года назад
Why the word ‘hello’, you didnt divide 2! while in the word ‘parallel’ you divided it to 2! & 3! ?
@ironmason
@ironmason 3 года назад
Hi! I’d like to answer your question. We can listen again to 6:35. He explained that the A’s could rearrange themselves 2! ways and the L’s could rearrange themselves 3! times. Hope this helps.
@mimidhat5846
@mimidhat5846 2 года назад
Thank you for the explanation but am still a little confused regarding the first and last example ...HELLO making sure that LL are always together in the arrangement we have 4!of arranging the word Hello but why didn't we multiple it by 2 since there are two way arranging the letter L just like how we did in the last example PARALLEL were we treated the La to be different even though the are same ..
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 2 года назад
Hi Mimi, that's because swapping the LL wouldn't make a difference as it looks the same. Maybe you could swap the Ls if you label it differently like L1 and L2. Always good to check answer sheets of past papers if you can find a similar question. See how they mark it.
@quirkisful
@quirkisful 12 лет назад
because you treat the women as one person, and the men can sit anywhere around them. hence not needing to divide by 4!
@jieunkim5174
@jieunkim5174 11 лет назад
that is because same alphabets are together so no need to rearrange them!
@haniaanwar7303
@haniaanwar7303 Год назад
love u
@tameraziz2104
@tameraziz2104 7 лет назад
Hello Professor, why you haven't consider the 4 men as 1 ensemble like you did with the women so instead of saying 5! we say 2! then because men and women could permutate among others then we better say 2!3!4!. Please advise.
@reinaairaronquillo1109
@reinaairaronquillo1109 7 лет назад
Tamer Aziz there are different men. He just counted women as one because they have to be with each other anywhere in the arrangement
@AnaMaria-bn8ko
@AnaMaria-bn8ko 8 лет назад
in the second example why multiply 5! by 3! and not divide by 3! ?
@PoppyMusica
@PoppyMusica 8 лет назад
because the women are indistinguishable. They can be rearranged in 3! ways.
@chloedingle9450
@chloedingle9450 3 года назад
I have a question, in the 1st and 2nd questions surely the other letters/ the men can arrange themselves in different orders around the LL/the women as well, so how come that is not accounted for?
@ExamSolutions_Maths
@ExamSolutions_Maths 13 лет назад
@killthrillabs Thanks
@ShoncayPlays
@ShoncayPlays 7 лет назад
In the 2nd example, shouldnt it be 5!x3!x4!? Because there are 4! ways to rearrange the men, which was not considered?
@roaahedaya1779
@roaahedaya1779 6 лет назад
No dude we considered the 3 women as only one woman so we are now arranging 5 people 4 of them are men but at the end we multiplied by 3 factorial as it is the number of ways the three women can arrange themselves between each other
@naturallysharon749
@naturallysharon749 7 лет назад
The first answer is wrong
@dexterns7369
@dexterns7369 6 лет назад
No it wasn't
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