Persona 3 FES: Final Boss Erebus [The Answer] 

Would be funny if they referenced Twitter in Persona 6 😅

@@alexandersmith4731 But P5R is already cancel culture

@@physicsismelody5581 P5 as well tho

Hey, f$ck Twitter. Akihiko can live without it. xD

Twitter is just where all the worthless specs of humanity go to be worthless together the real people ain’t in the web like that

Love that video

More like Erebus is born from the idea that Death means the end of suffering, hence that

p6 repressent evil

@@michaeljames6737 wouldn't mind imagine we get a Protagonist whos anti hero

Shin megami tensei common core plot stories in a nutshell

Erebus is something born of the Collective Unconsciousness, he represents the malice of the humans, the hatred, the wish to kill... And the wish to die. Because twisted are the ways of the Collective Unconsciousness.

Also Erebus' makes a crying sound when attacking...

Well, ask Yaldabaoth or Adam Kadmon

It will fit

void termina agrees

"if we can hit it, we can kill it!"

Mainly cuz they finally realized that everyone's canon sizes are very far apart from each other.

Oof

A power charged one at that.

And your pfp describes that emotion

Should have begged Atlus for free Hassou tobi.

Twice.

Kind of close. Even though the themes of the neo-era mainline games are different, they are interconnected in terms of psychology. Persona 3 give a concept of the evil within humanity's heart. The Dark Hour is a worldwide event as proven in the movie, though the Shadows were concentrated in Tatsumi Port Island, the place of the Shadow research. The Abyss of Time kind of reveal part of the truth of the researchers motivation to bring the fall; letting Erebus to make contact with Nyx to end all lives. For the P4 and 5 teams, the events are concentrated on the towns/cities they live. The Midnight Channel/TV World is the domain of Inaba's collective unconsciousness/cognition, while mementos is the domain of Tokyo vice versa. However, considering how the themes, though different but interconnected, if the dark influence spreads, it might lead to disastrous results by chain reactions. In a sense, the generations post 3, making the right choices kind of ensure that the past teams efforts won't go in vain. It was kind of proven in Arena when the surviving SEES were alarmed by the high Shadow reading in Inaba December 2011, but put to an end by the Investigation Team lead by Yu. Royal and Scramble suggests researchers attempting to pry into/access the cognition/Shadow world, even worse, might try to initate their events out of their selfish desires. This also enforces Jose's statemts of more beings watching over humankind and "they" can't humans be. What he likely mean is the past generations, the Velvet Room residents and past/current/future enemies that the generations have to face.Considering the events, it can be assumed that the P5 gen stories will continue for a while.

If you would think of EVERYONE's mementos, I have the theory that it's going to be the Earth itself, and underneath it.. below to the depths of Hell

You realize just because they change people's desired does not mean they can stop the wanting of death right? It's literally a part of humanity and will always be there regardless The entire world would have to change and that's just not possible

@@yoyo3725 But there's a difference between human' accepting death as an inevitable eventuality versus wanting to end everything now, forever. The upright Death card represents not just physical death, but also metaphorical death and change. It forms the boundary between "normal" mysteries (love, kings and queens, strength and sacrifice) and more esoteric ones (heaven and hell, sun and moon, final judgement). Individual humans may die, but humanity as a whole must retain the will to live, thrive and grow, as more and more passing generations continue to build it into greatness. What SEES was trying to stop was the will of humanity as a whole giving up, and letting Nyx end the world as a result, and fretting over one man's sacrifice almost dooms humanity again.

​@@yoyo3725well, destroying everytime one of this creations change humanity, but a new one born again, like Nyalatoteph, Erebus, Izanami and Yaldabaoth...

B O N K

Maybe Because She's Fully Decked Out With Combat Gear?

Phanton Thieves: *DID SOMEBODY SAY A CHANGE OF HEART?*

@@chaos_blue1089 *YE WHO EFFING SAID THAT*

@@chaos_blue1089 *ONTO MEMENTOS WE GO*

Atlus has one chance with Persona 5 Royal. Maybe it can be the true final boss or an epilogue with better writing and characterization than The Answer

I highly doubt it tho. The next theme for P5: Royal is stopping an unknown entity from granting wishes, thus abusing such power...

I want it canon dude. Door-Kun MUST be saved

@@gabrielmoreth4482 that would ruin the ending of the game if it was canon so no dont make it canon

@@shibeking1809 People always say this, but it really wouldn't. Death is the theme of the game sure, but it's one of the many themes. People harp on the idea of idea of "death" as the game's theme, but it's a lot more than that. The themes of choice, responsibility, and how you choose to live your life are even more important to the message the game's trying to get across. If the Protag came back to life it'd be fine honestly

Persona 6: door

@@crimsonskrub8984 imagine if he was ressurected, but became one of the attendents of the Velvet Room? We could have him pair up with Elizabeth and be the receptionists of one of the new gamea

Paper Luigi Atlus is hinting at it every game

This

Paper Luigi you might wanna rephrase that... a change of heart where ppl DON'T accept death and live life to the fullest...

truthseeker ikr

They already stole the heart of the general public

Nightmare version of Catdog

Man then Silent Hill wouldn't be your bag lol

Nyx's true form in cgi form would not let me sleep for quite alot of months

@@pavise6333 or if Girafarig have a Shadow

Nyarlathotep from Persona 2 is also disturbing

Coda Via time stamp?

That shit was downright sexy

@@theheadguy1212 7:40.

Doubt it, Erebus is humanity’s subconcious will, no human realises this. The memento’s treasure on the other hand, people will admit to some degree.

TheNapster153 fair enough. It’s better off that way anyway it would kind of ruin the message of persona 3

Beside, The Holy Grail came from humanity's wish to be ruled by unknown power so they can lead their life without worry while Erebus came to fruition from humanity's wish to touch death, to embrace it, to know it, think of those suicidal people, Erebus born from such minds. The thing is, human fear death but they seek salvation in it too. Erebus becomes twisted because of it

Mementos isn't the Palace of humanity, just the one that belong to Tokyo's masses. And The Holy Grail is the representation of the desire for perfectly orderly society, not for death.

Put this way. Royal added a new section of Mementos in the third semester. The reaper still haunts the halls of this new section despite the theives taking Humaity’s treasure. Ergo, Erebus still lives, and Door-kun is still the lock.

I think Mementos is just a part of the "Collective Unconscious" if they really want to have a big effect, then they need to go at the very center of the Collective Unconscious

Neutral Player Of LoL ...... Didn't they already do that?

@@justjoking5252 no they didn't. Yaldabaoth was a god that messed with the people and the PT took care of the trouble he caused. But it didn't stop everything (sorry my Englisch is bad)

@@Asehhar Your english is fine.

@@neutralplayeroflol5722 They would need to go to the Palace of humanity to go there. Now the question is, does it exists and where is it ?

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Exactly, people really Overshadowing P4 and 3 just because P5 is all about society

I would argue P5 is about rebellion along with abuse of power, not just society

4: Something something, the truth

I, uh, don't know about that one. 3 deals with death and its inevitability, yes- but it's also surprisingly optimistic. Life's too short to mourn about death- so live your life to the fullest and, when you do pass on- don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened. 4, in contrast, deals with truth and accepting yourself- it's arguably darker in some aspects then P3 is, in the sense that the truth in P4? It hurts. The truth is ugly, it's terrifying- it's all those things and more- but it's still the truth. Be honest with yourself- even if you don't like it, you still have to accept it. And once you accept it- once you accept the ugliness- you can move on and live happier. 5 is... simultaneously incredibly optimistic while being incredibly depressing once you take a look back at it. Let's break it down real quick- 5 deals with society and freedom- the corruption of society and how it's so corrupt, it needs kids to fix it. And they do! They convince humanity to simultaneously reject Yaldabaoth and believe in the PTs and restore order to society- bringing about peace and happiness- Except not really, because turns out society just sucks and the status quo continues. Joker gets arrested by the cops and government, who, even absent Yaldabaoth's influence, still want to put an innocent man away and ultimately only gets out because of his Confidants- and it's the point that Atlus acknowledges, that society's just too huge, too large to change completely without needing an enormous amount of power. It's frustrating, but simultaneously, it's *realistic*- because society's not something you can fix 'just' by stealing hearts- and it's hugely different then every other Persona Game, where there's no real answer given as to how one ought to address such an issue- because as it turns out, Atlus can't fix society. Not unless Yaldabaoth or another Demiurge shows up.

What about P1 and P2?

After al this time ? There's no possible way.

@@corruptedteka OVA would suit more better. The Answer is too short to adapt into a movie.

I would like to think of that, too. We should get a scene of Aigis hugging Yukari when she apologizes to her.

Metis: "It's impossible, it's just too big!" Also Metis: "This axe will do nicely."

@@palpamemer metis goes bonk

Indonesia TDM And it only had around 80 health.

@@sunshinemonster0780 ok

wack

@@sunshinemonster0780 ok

Pretty much

This wasn't DLC. This was a story continuation added to only the FES version.

@@Max1996YT it's just a way of referring to the story using the terminology we have today with the DLC. I'm pretty awareness that this story isn't a DLC though.

@@Demi-fiend still an inaccurate way to describe it, since even in modern day terms, this isnt a downloaded thing. Just call it an extra scenario.

@@atelierbagur3831 Just call it an expansion.

I actually won’t get the game unless that happens. Not out of spite, but because Persona mainline games just aren’t my jam.

Well when he became the seal, he pretty much sacrificed his own life to protect others, so...

I know that much but the thing is that Elizabeth is trying to find a way to bring him back. That's the reason why she left the velvet room

Umm..Tatsuya's dead too.

@@secretiveplottersupremacy2043 not really, he's just chilling on the Other Side for who knows how long

@@somerandom6883 In order to do that, Elizabeth has 3 options 1.Try to separate all 12 shadows and contain those shadows without killing them in some way 2.A wild card user that has a power which is exact same of the universe arcana and switch places(or use herself instead) or 3(for a more convoluted story line) 3.Every Persona User joined forces and enter the Collective Unconscious and there they can make a big impact to the world and using all of their strength to free Door-kun

That's because Erebus hasn't fully recovered and reached power like what we see here.

​@@pavise6333nah, the game doesn't imply anything like that. Erebus came back because so many people wished for death. Elizabeth is just strong enough to take out Erebus/Nyx level threats. Yeah, don't be surprised.

Probably because the theme of it is death

꧁༺matt༻꧂ Yeah...the canon deaths of the team members were also extra salt for the wound...

pretty late but i'd say persona 2 is darker, but 3 has some really dark moments and as said before the theme is death

Sylvious Was the overall theme of Persona 2 death as well?

@@dfquartzidn6151 not really but its the only persona game where the characters fail at saving the world, and the protagonist has to live in a completely destroyed world alone.

I think its called: darkness

You will win at life

I think that those two events took place at different times. Elizabeth fought Erebus three years after the events of P3 it's implied that she had gotten stronger. I don't remember when she fought the other two, I'm assuming you are talking about PQ? That takes place way earlier. Before Shinji even died.

when she fought the reaper she sealed all her personas and abilities and legs and arms power and was one shot away from killing him

@@treanaharris2724 Plus she was only a single level weaker then him so they were pretty close in power back then

Elizabeth heavily restricted herself against the Reaper and still was very close to winning, and for all we know she could have let Zeus take control.

This Erebus was thousands of years in the making, with countless people feeding him with power from their desire for death which explains its immense power.

Who's da man ?

Did you play FES or P3P with Orpheus only? Because Spell Cards make a huge difference

Portable

It would be cool to see though if he becomes like an attendant in velvet room

Yea door-kun really became a door

More specifically, he became the chainlocks on a door.

Makoto Yuki why not?

Cuz you died.

Just because

Magic and the original plot was so boring they threw you in.

Erebus is a Registered Nurse? Who the hell certified him??

That is completely baseless. First of all, nowhere in the game does it state that their powers ONLY work in the Metaverse. It's highly implied by the twins the otherwise actually. Second of all, it depends on the power of the user according to Persona 1. Since the Persona 1 gang are the weakest so far, the phantom theives CAN summon their Personas without the cognitive world.

The thing is for p3 p4 and p5 it's all about salvation, freedom from pain. Salvation by death, salvation by lies, salvation by control. Maybe Ameno Sagiri and Yaldaboath were both precisely trying to prevent Nyx's arrival by presenting their own solution. But they both have been rejected by thruth and rebellion The only solution is acceptation, meanwhile it's our job to fight the other "fake solutions".

@@maxminota9921 you cannot prevent death you cannot remove nyx for good she will always be back

@@jackour8167 out of the main 3 only the group from persona 3 has actually use their persona in the real world and the twins they don't count at all they aren't human and aren't bound by the rules of the Meta, they lost their way to use a persona at the end of 5 or they're high skills in the real world no where in 5 shows or says they can use them in the real world

@@yoyo3725 You literally just missed the entire argument.

Late but Erebus is humanity's subconscious desire for death, and nyx is a being that if reached by Erebus, will make that wish come true. So, door Kun sealed away Erebus

Door kun sealed Nyx

Think of it as a barrier that prevents Erebus and Nyx from connecting

Both him AND Nyx

games dont make sense i mean you beat a god so really does it need to make sense

@@ashadow4313 didn't really beat it at all but yeah