This sounds more like Yosuke trying to convince Kanji that he’s gay, when even in the story, he isn’t gay, he just likes girly activities and is haunted by what it means to be a “man”
@@cristopherflores236 that can happen, because in the manga Kanji began to insult Aegis for not being a real girl dispite never seen her (this is in Aegis perceptive of the event due to Shadow Labrys)
“Your death is what’s been decided!” I feel u kanji...... lmao I’d wanna fight after hearing that too 😂😂 if he’s not confirming anything or doesn’t want to, let him be 😭😭 I love kanji
Huh? Kanji is not gay. Regardless, I agree with you in a sense; analysis of data files indicates Yosuke was once considered to be a romance option for the protagonist, but Kanji was not.
Ian W WAIT HOL UP- WE COULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DATE YUSUKE?!?! WHY DID THEY TAKE THAT OPTION OUT DAMMITTTTTTTT Also, I wanna date Ryuji so bad! Ryuji is my best girl 😭
lol he got flustered when Yu also asked about Naoto's breast size and described the type of girl he likes being Naoto so...he may not be into dating but he does have a preference
I do not see how he could be bisexual. He only really shows any forms of interest toward Naoto and other girls. It is true that he shows interest in Naoto before her reveal as a female, but that is attributable to a variety of factors (e.g., no one paid any attention to him before; he misinterprets what she meant; and her interest countered his fear of rejection). Regardless, he doesn't lose interest in her after her reveal as a female and, for what it is worth, is enthusiastic about such a prospect. He never shows any explicit interest in male characters and, in other media, is flustered around other females-he even participates in activities such as trying to get their phone numbers! In fairness, at least the bisexual interpretation does not discard or ignore the details in the Persona 4 universe that traditionally are at odds with other interpretations (for example, the interpretation that he is homosexual discards and / or ignores his attraction to Naoto, as well as his own commentary).
I mean..... fuck labels tho. They're useful, but using them is so stressful in situations like these. Kanji doesn't know what he is and what he likes, and he might never figure out in his life, and that should be fine. _Is_ he bi? I only care about the fact that he is best boy.
To anyone who may use this to dis Yosuke for homophobia/being mean to Kanji and hasn’t played this game. Anything that Yosuke “said” before the fight, he didn’t actually say. Another being is distorting their perception so that they hear the other person say negative things. This is also why Yosuke gets defensive after the fight, from his perspective Kanji was being mean to him because Yosuke’s perception was distorted by this being as well. It’s also why Yosuke acts confused and starts “playing dumb” when Kanji gets angry at him after the fight. He never actually said those things, he is actually confused since he genuinely did nothing wrong. After the fight ended, this distortion broke so after the fight they start to hear what the other person is ACTUALLY saying, rather then a spew of hate. Now that doesn’t mean there aren’t other scenes where Yosuke is written badly, displaying homophobia and/or being mean to Kanji (looking at you camping scene) but this is not one of those scenes.
Yosuke is an accurate representation of a high schooler born in the early 90s. Virtually nobody from that time was acceptably woke by today's standards at 16, he was even well above average in that regard.
Bottom line he was interested when he thought they were a guy and stayed interested after learn they are a girl. This conclusion is at least for me he is Bi
Well said. I speak for myself here but it's creepy how funny they make the "hot spings" out to be because I against my own better judgment sat down to watch the P4 anime and found it unbearably sad. The cognitive dissonance of "embrace, and accept, and understand your non-confornity" and who they humiliate for being loud and different and literally born a certain way that just pulls all value from Persona from Persona 4 to P4's anime and spin offs up to and including the impact of everyone who loves it for its plot... I urge people who just overlook it all the time to just call it out. It's problematic and hurtful. Disengage if you have to. Boundaries aren't a weakness it's incredibly strong. Media is important in how and what you consume shaping your maturity and growth into whatever you want to become. Everyone saying homophobic Yosuke isn't constantly calling a kid YOUNGER than him out, branding him a s*xual assaulter in another FAMOUS instance even, doesn't really get a pass from me if you're trying to critique Atlus. Full grown adults covering for that r-_pe joke seem like they're just not aware of how painful that accusation is and require a bit of an education: This ain't cute or fun to say even if it's both normal and advantageous in society to say homophobic femmephobic super alarmingly r__pey and victim-blaming accusations to people you can get away with harming.
Persona 4 Arena, Kanji Route: You Can (Not) Be Gay. *LOUD BASS BOOSTED EVANGELION OP MUSIC* (Honestly Yosuke is the one who sounds gay. Listen to him talking to Kanji. Plus there's that little cut romance route he had in P4 Vanilla) Seriously though, Kanji is the most adorable and sweet person! I'd love to meet someone like him, because he's such a darling~ He's in touch with his feminine side, and that makes for a very good boyfriend/husband in the long run! He can provide things for Naoto that she lacks as a woman (cooking skills, knowledge of basic to advanced skill with certain common needs, and having a compassionate and tender side), and she can provide things Kanji lacks as a man (advanced knowledge, more awareness of certain terms and phrases, a calm and rational thought process). This is obviously an amazing pairing, and even though I don't ship them it's obvious to see they go well together! They cover each other's missing parts, and are even close in age! Naoto needs to get her ass in gear and snatch this treasure up! Or Kanji needs to stop being so awkward and take initiative!
@@elinacarmina3050 Thank you so much for your commentary. I have not disagreed with a single comment you have written, and it is refreshing to read comments from a fan...that are not based on one's preconceived ideas.
@Stealth Because you definitely need to have him say "I'm bisexual" in order to know he is. Also not being straight = SJW apparently. You do know Persona 2 has a gay romance option, right?
@Stealth every heard of reading between the lines? It's heavily impiled that he is bi, just because something is not 100% comfirmed does not mean something isn't their. And how is it SJW bullshit? i can get the dislike for forced lgbt presentation, but charaters like kanji are the opposite of forced. As his masculinity and some extent his sexuality are important to the charater and story, plus the game is literally about facing yourself and accepting who you are. I wouldn't call it forceing anything in your face or lgbt propaganda
Nicholas Qu Well you see Average Joe is a fairly common expression referring to just a plain middle of the road guy and since Joe is a common name they named the expression Average Joe
Ian W im sure he’s straight. But the scenario made everybody in the persona world think he’s gay. In my wildest dream: I just want the characters in persona to know he’s bi
lol tbh it all should've gotten better if they made Kanji mindset into something like "doesn't whatever they're gender if I like them" All those things feel like he's pushing Naoto and the chemistry feels one sided. "cmon make me a man" "enter the damn pageant" it doesn't feel good to hear sorry Kanji
Second, and I'm not saying this necessarily applies to Yosuke, but you don't always have to be secretly gay to be homophobic. There are several factors that could lead to homophobia, intentional or not.
Oh yeah remember when Yosuke and Kanji kissed in Shadow of the Labyrinth and Kanji was heavily nosebleeding and yosuke was kinda happpy? Yeah forgot Yux Yosuke, the real fans ship Kanji x Yosuke