Marche800 thank you ! People act as if alternate universes can't be easily established or some easy explaination that make that specific game being non cannon either... I fail to see the issue here since in both cases everything should work out well...
Cause they fail to see Persona 2 as a thing which already explained that multiverse exist if p3 is still doing random cameo names from the p2 mc names it exist it reminds people that P2 exist which by in itself multiverse
Lewis Carroll: I think It would since the explanation as to why the p3 team shoot themselves is because it makes their body think they are gonna die and summons the persona because they have a desire to live. At least that’s what I remember the explanation being. Edit: fixed spelling
I really hope they expand on the Investigation Team/Phantom Thieves conflict they teased cause those two are pretty different fundamentally and morally in my opinion .
Yeah they're both goods but I feel like they will come into conflict over their methodologies and forcing change onto others ie the true self and changing the hearts .
That's probably one of the things I'm going to be looking forward to the most (if Atlus doesn't fuck it up through weak character personalites like in the first game). Having people accept their true self vs. Forcefully making someone reveal their true self, Investigation Team vs. Phantom Thieves, it's going to be so good! Of course they're going to be on the same team but the morality conflict, I'm getting so excited thinking about it.
plot twist: the new girl with white hair is secretly just maki from P1 and the new game takes place in one of the parallel worlds she makes with the deva system (if this farfetched theory is true, theres a canonical reason for femc to be here also, so thats cool)
As someone who respects the story of Persona 2 and even Persona 1 to an extent, I can confirm that your future sight about people wanting it and complaining about flanderization is 100% correct
Y'all I don't care about consistency of the "canon-ness" of this series. I love femc and happy she finally gets some sort of recognition. Would've prefered her in the dancing game but beggars can't be choosers. Also ppl need to just chill. If you hate her great but don't hate on me or the ppl who like her. And if you love her great, but don't hate on those who don't like her. We all got our preferences. Just respect it and move on. Or just don't care like shady Tanaka. Now if you'll excuse me I gotta get my hands on P1 and P2 and play them because I must pay respect to classic underrated games. Also I want Yu and Joker to step on me.
Jonathan Ropotar I doubt people would care if she is dlc ...I don't understand why people assume that those who wanted more of the femc must have wanted her to be cannon (in the sense of her remplacing Minato or some other bs of that sort)...
0:29 Ren that's not how a gun works I'm more intrigued by the robots that are shown, especially the one that looks like Aegis? Either way I hope the story is better this time. RIP P1 and P2
Raphaël Khoury I'm pretty sure Aigis will be in her original form, because if you look at the eye of the T-Rex it has Akira/Ren/Joker's mask design (either something happens in the story, symbolism, or gameplay mechanics based off of the cinema theme). Also I'm pretty sure we aren't getting Labrys because of the time traveling aspect of PQ being carried over into PQ2.
I think you don’t get everyone at once you may get the whole p5 cast then you save yu from being controlled ( the fight is fishy to me cause yu’s eyes are covered in the scene ) yu tells the cast that his friends were taken also then probs bump into the femc
Well unless they surprise us it looks like P1 and P2 will not be featured after the second trailer we've gotten. It also looks like the P5 group are watching some sort of reproduction of the palaces they've been into or something as we've seen (presumably) Sae and Kamoshida in odd styles. Thanks to the trailer we know that the actual Aegis is there. Looks like I worded my original comment wrong, I meant to say I'm intrigued as to why it looks like Aegis, not that it is her, sorry about that!
This might be stupid to suggest, but I always thought having door-kun and the female MC in the same game could be contextualized with some good old persona jungian jargon. You know, the anima and animus counterparts of the psyche? So the female MC could show up by some freak accident, in which door-kun, in all his effeminate glory, has that aspect literally ripped out of him into another being. Hey, it could happen. If Atlus somehow made Persona Q 1 canon then the FeMc is fair game. Also, that new Q 2 oringal character girl? Q 2? More like, Q T cause she looks like a combination of Naoto and Rei Ayanami.
FeMC said in the trailer, "I am him, and he is me?" and in P3P opening the words Anima & Animus are there, so. It could be. Or just a classic parallel universe.
In all likelihood it's probably going to be the latter set dressed with some buzz word philosophy. That would explain having all the velvet room attendants together as well.
The Tensei Sect successfully to sealed away the FeMC in several spinoff gourds, however her apostles, Shinjiro Aragaki, Theodore, Rio Iwasaki, Saori Hasegawa and Gigai have worked towards releasing her into the world. Now, the Fiend FeMC has been released. Can the Tensei Sect lock her up? Will the brutal hero, Chad Narukami, be able to finish her fanbase once and for all? Or will the FeMC Army expand once more?
Chad Narukami would destroy her. First of all, he is himself a Wild Card user. This means he can have multiple Personas at the same time, which are themselves very capable in combat. This is a pretty good ability, but is taken to the extreme when combine with his status as a Balance Breaker. As a Balance Breaker, he has no Level Cap, and he also gains a unique ability that allow him to raise the Level Cap of anyone that he sleeps with. This means that because he always sleeps with his Personas every single day ( all of them are females ), all of them gain a significant boost in power. The best example is when his Pixie completly destroyed Yaldabaoth by just healing him. He has access to both the Power of Friendship and the Hyper Weapon. The Power of Friendship makes him almost invicible as long as his friends are still alive, granting him an Invicibility Field that can't be broken because it exists outside of the Planner Scenario. This is further enhance by the fact that his Protagonist ability also give him a Plot Armor Lv 2 skill, which makes things always in his favor in combat. His main weapon, the Hyper Weapon, is one of the most powerful weapons in fiction. It is so powerful in fact that it is the only thing that has ever able to unify every nations in the world. This is an outstanding feat because Gold Experience Requiem Over Heaven Act 4 failed to do so even when he has access to the Universe Arcana. If he fights the Fiend FeMC, the fight will end in seconds. The only thing that makes the FeMC so powerful is her FANDOM Shield ability, along with her SJW troops. I guess she can hold herself a little bit longer if she fights Chad in the Tumblr Zone, but this will only prolong the battle and the result will still be the same. Because the Hyper Weapon can pierce the FANDOM Shield, she basically has nothing left at her disposal and will be defeated. She will not die though, as I think after being assaulted by Chad she will join his Harem and be a valuable member in his party, though she will lose the FANDOM Shield forever.
the FEMC seems like she will be going in like an Ultra Beast solo mission, she's not with anyone she's just in a backalley which could make for interesting interactions with SEES not knowing her, but she knows them and also inb4 selfcest with Minato/Makoto×Femc
Marche800 yeah it would be interesting because she knows them, but they don't know her, and it would probably add to writing in a way since it goes against the "memories of you" message of not forgetting
As someone who started the Persona series with Persona 3 PSP and played as the FEMC words cannot express how happy I was to see her. Girl needs more love and should be in more games.
Sotonami Souta I can understand people not liking her as much because she's non cannon but I just don't get all the hate surrounding her. Then again I haven't been into the Persona series for that long...
RosiePosie it's always like that. As long as it's good for guys, no problem but add a femc with option to date guys to the mix and it's bad. I get why people hated how her existence changed shinjiros fate, that was a bad decision of the scripting team, but basically bashing her for it is kinda redundant. I also started persona with p3p as femc, but since have played every persona game. Hell p2 is one of my favourites and it all started with hamuko. But well, it's the internet people need to hate something
The actual main story of Persona Q is good. The problem is that it's all jammed into the last dungeon. Until then it's just wacky bullshit with hints at the main story
Bring it on. I’ve been Team “Ann x Yusuke” since P5 launched, and if there is a Group Date Café redux in this game, you can bet that I’m willing to find the right markers to ship them.
Hey, did I miss something or everyone seems to either hate or love femc? What's up with that? I don't know shit about her besides the fact that she looks cute. Good design tbh, 10/10.
BaconBoss Yeah, I saw only after I posted my comment 😅 I don't know, to me it sounded more like a "We hate the fans so we also started hating the character" type of situation. Reminds me shenpai (or aeroviro) when she played persona 5 everyone was hyping up Makoto so she ended up hating her, not because of Makoto herself but because of her pushy fans. 😥
Melosa B yeah It sucks when people let a fan base affect they're enjoyment of something. I can understand where they're coming from though, I personally have no experience with the femc since I never played the psp version
BaconBoss Yeah, me neither so I can't say much about her but their reasoning seems a bit shaky tbh. If the female fans had fun playing Femc then why make fun of their enjoyment? After the trailer dropped I saw a lot of girls being happy so despite not knowing much about minako/hamuko (that's how she's called, right?) It made me feel happy too.
Goro made it in, the absolute lad. Wonder where this takes place in relation to Persona 5's plot. Is it gonna be around the time of the casino palace? I doubt they'd actually place it after the credits since they showed Goro here, albeit a little stealthily.
Elliott, of the House of Memes Well, technically, there is a way. If I saw right, he was in his detective attire. He could be dragged in separately from PTs, and seeing as this would include a memory wipe, he can be from any point in the game before Shido's Palace.
Lewis Carrol Exactly. But the problem is that since Haru's in the party that means it has to be sometime between Okumura and Sae's palaces. Making the actual timing pretty close for them not to know about Akechi.
Marche800 Well, there is a lot of days between Haru joining and Akechi being found out, and Persona Q2 technically happens in one second (if like the first one), so they still can go for Akechi being just a detective who awakens before them and they still don't know he will betray them. Just saying, that there is enough of time for that to happen.
So if this game is canon, will we have to call Non canon-chan "Canon-chan?" Also the cinema motif is beautiful and Makoto Yuki is looking as sexy as ever, he's best boy and I love him.
In the trailer, FeMC said, 「私は彼で、彼は私？」/ "I am him, and he is me?" as if she's meeting MaleMC somehow. So yes. I. Am. HYPED. I've always thought PQ is gonna be the most perfect game for FeMC to appear. Now, to wish that the flanderization at least won't be too severe...
Heh, heh as someone who actually really enjoyed the story of PQ a lot, I’m cautiously optimistic. The movie theme might help them to split up the characters a bit to fix some of the clusterfuck issues. Or so I hope.
I still think they might show off the P1/2 cast somewhere. Not all of them but i think some day they'll show up in something as a side or background character. Anyway the trailer gave my whip lash
Honestly looking forward to the moment where the phantom thieves get questioned by the P3 and P4 casts about why they're wearing the phantom thief outits
Honestly as much as I love P1 & P2, having the cast of P3, 4, and 5 is already a clusterfuck so I'm okay with them not being in. I'm more worried about how the hell I'll decide on party members.
What causes people to feel such powerful butt pain when FEMC is being discussed or in this case, added to the game anyway? Do she makes people think that somehow she's going to replace Minato as the main character or P3 or something? She's just a side character that made into the game because her fans wanted to see her, nothing more and nothing less so chill the fuck out people.
There’s a theory that the two protagonists are siblings, but only one of them made it out of the crash on the Moonlight Bridge. Depending on the player’s choice of protagonist in P3P, the timeline splits to determine if the MaMC or FeMC survived the crash. It wouldn’t be surprising if Atlus ended up making the theory canon by having the two recognize each other
If you turn on the subtitles, the FeMC asks, all confused-like, "I am him...and he is me?" This seems to imply some sort of alternate dimension shenanigans. Which retroactively makes Portable canonical, but in a different version of the World.
I think if they do at least a little bit better with the characters and labyrinths, this game could be really good, so I'm excited. The first game was okay, not amazing, not terrible, but this one could be really good. If it's just okay like the first one, I won't be too disappointed, there is always that risk, but if is actually good, I'll be very happy!
So, heres what I wanna know, wtf is gonna go on with Goro? Because even when Goro is in your party the Phantom Thieves know hes gonna betray them so does this take place during Saes palace with the thieves pretending to not hate him or does this for some reason take place after Shido's Palace/P5's story? Also still in only 5 party members son of a bitch I had enough trouble picking a party in PQ1. Especially since we have 3 Protagonists who we might have to use all of them again for ultimate Personas
I stand by FeMC is a plague on the Persona series as every time a persona game is announced and released persona "fans" ask "where's my female gender option?!"
Someone translated the whole trailer and a tidbit you might find interesting - at the end, FEMC is saying "I am him and he is me?" or something to that effect. They may have the Persona 3 cast be mixed about who remembers the stories of which protag or they may all remember both.
Man I'm just genuinely happy femc is there, that's enough for me. As for P1 and P2 as much a big fan I'm of p2 i didn't hold my hopes high for them to appear in pq 2, i don't think Atlus is interested in bringing them back anymore which is sad :/
I'm most interested in what point in each of the respective stories this takes place during. Like how in PQ 1 it took place during the P4 Culture festival. Unless they just pull a "from PQ 1 they were sent directly to PQ 2"
MAYBE THE WHITE HAIRED GIRL HAD TO DO WITH KOTONE/MINAKO/HAMUKO? SINCE HER EYES IS RED AND SOME OF EARLIER DESIGN AND THE GAME , SOMETIMES SHOWS KOTONE WITH RED EYES... KNOW WHAT JUST FORGET WHAT IM SAYING.. IT JUST SUSPICIUS CAUSE SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING IN THE TRAILER.. AND WHEN SHE MENTION 'KARE GA WATASHI? WATASHI GA KARE".. IM REALLY GONNA EXPLODE HERE!!! I WONDER HOW THEY EXPALIN THEMSELF AND REACTION BOTH MINATO AND KOTONE...
*random p3 pointsself with a "gun" in the head* Akira/Ren:wut are you doing Ryuji:whaaaat!!! Ann:what!! Yusuke:NANI!? Makoto:huh what! Akechi:what!!(well he's dead that's depressing) Futaba:eeeeeeh!!
Holy hecc where have I been? The quality on your Mic is godlike now. Oh yeah, FEMC...I don't really care for PQ at all, but it's nice that she's in. If there's one thing I do care about, it's that her backstory better be that she's Door-kun's sister but he never bothered to mention her. Like, just the most basic bitch explanation that also leaves a bunch of plot holes like how come she has the Wild Card and why is she wearing the uniform/attending Gekkoukan? And he just says fucking nothing beyond her being his sister and everyone in the party's confused but eventually just accepts it. That's the kind of fanservice I'd like, because it really doesn't matter how she's introduced, so might as well make it go along with the fan canon.
I think it's not good too make new game with P1 and P2 characters. We love them becouse they is who they are, old and classic. Good memories lives in past, not in present. (Guys, who knows good reboot of old franchise? Maybe my words wrong.)
@Raylo GameMaster That line just makes me feel like they're gonna give an overcomplicated answer that will confuse me than, explain anything about Minako.
Not gonna lie, the FeMC being in this has me a bit... perturbed. Like, why the fuck is she here? Having her and Minato existing simultaneously is absolutely stupid. Unless she’s dismissed as being from another universe, this shit is inexcusable.
FemMC: Hey guys! I haven't seen y'all ever since I became a door! Persona 3 Cast: ummm, Who the fuck are you? FemMC: It's me guys! You're leader, remember? We defeated Shadows and stop Nyx. Persona 3 Cast: Uh, no, we already did all that....but *you* weren't there... Persona 3 Cast: Plus how could that be possible when we already have our clearly superior Leader? Minato/Makoto: What's up.... FemMC: Bu- But I hung out with all of guys, like, everyday, you guys are like, my best friends. :'( Persona 3 Cast: Sorry, we literally have no idea what you're talking about.... FemMC: 😢😥 **Early leak of PQ2**
Honestly, Many fans like the FeMC it's nothing wrong with that. I get that you guys personally don't like her. That's okay as well, it's just you can never stop the Persona fan base complaining about anything just as much as you two complain about the FeMC.
