Pet Peeves of the Battle of Gettysburg (Day 3) | Tim Smith 

I have had 17 LBG tours. It was my birthday present each year. A treat, and yes it is a treat. I have had many good guides, a couple duds. After watching this....I'd trade them all for one from LBG T Smith. As the vid progressed it was like a crescendo, yep, yep, agree AGREE and then he ends on a very high note. Meade never gets a lot of due credit. 100% agree on all Tims points. He, in my opinion, epitomizes Gburg studies in this era.

Another tremendous presentation and performance by Tim Smith. I love it when he gets fired up, particularly when discussing the grreat George Gordon Meade.

I was a tour guide at a historic site for many years and gave tours to thousands of school children and adults. The public in my opinion are generally uneducated to history, and have very little knowledge of it, so we as guides have to listen to their generalizations and comments, and gently but firmly with tact and our knowledge to educate said public on history. Loved it when I broke through their dusty brains and got an A HA moment! Great video addressing frustrations with the public.

Love the Pet Peeves. Completely agree on the "50,000 Killed" That particular one drives me crazy. I think this comes from non-historian folks who vlog or blog about Gettysburg and they casually throw that remark out there not realizing the differentiation of casualties. And thank you for the proper recognition for George Gordon Meade for the Gettysburg victory and the Grant "rant" lol.

Always enjoy watching Tim’s videos. It was refreshing to hear his praise of General Meade, he never gets the full credit for what he did those three days in July. 👍👍 Tim‼️

Two months earlier at Chancellorsville, Slocum's 12th Corps men had good, fortification-building experience at Chancellorsville. (Ref. 'Slocum's Logs' and 'Slocum's Line'.) Our pet peeves: a. The underappreciation of the important effect on the fighting by the heavy smoke created by artillery and musketry on the battlefield. b. The unawareness that Lee maintained his army's position on Seminary Ridge on 4 July, waiting for the Union forces to counterattack.

Thanks for all you do, and to the staff of the Historical Society.

Love your thoughts on July 3rds days battle. Agree with you about Culps Hill’s engagement. And Lee’s last gasp charge with Pickett’s. Into the Union center. Understand these pet peeve’s. Also about General Meade Being the victorious at Gettysburg. Thanks Tim ! 💯👍👊

You never disappoint Tim!! Thank you for another great presentation! Ssssickles!!!! I’m always going to remember you from that!!

Another outstanding video, Tim. You are such a vast wealth of information, and a definite treasure to the town of Gettysburg. Love your perspectives. Your passion is so contagious and very much appreciated. I could listen to you talk all day about the battle. (Agreed that Gen. Meade is under-appreciated). Thank you for always going the extra mile to keep our Civil War/Gettysburg history alive. And Happy 60th Birthday.

Ah, some “lost cause” thinking being addressed properly. Very very good info Tim. Thank you.

When did "Longstreet's Assault" become "Pickett's Charge"? Wonderful videos. Thank you for posting these!

This was really great. I agree with all of that. I'll offer one of my pet peeves. All the generals you listed were commanders in the East, primarily of the Army of the Potomac. For the most part the war in the west is ignored. But flags of truce flew above the Confederate works at Vicksburg about an hour before the Confederate charge on the US center started at Gettysburg. Within a week after that, before the Army of Northern Virginia crossed the Potomac River, the last Confederate fortification on the Mississippi surrendered and the eastern Confederacy was cut off from the supplies and materials available from the Trans Mississippi west. After that several US Corps were freed up to move east to Chattanooga, Atlanta, Savannah, and the Carolinas. From a larger perspective gaining control of the Mississippi was far more influential to the outcome of the war than Gettysburg. But that's what guides and historians are there for, to help people move beyond the legends and see the war and the events from a different perspective than they had before.

I can listen to Tim all day. Somebody commented "National Treasure" and I agree. Do we know what was Lee's orders for Stuart on Day 3? I live near Gettysburg and I agree a rear calvary assault on the Union line at Cemetery Ridge would not be geographically easy.

Great talk, Mr. Smith! Especially loved the section on "Pickett's Charge" 😀. Lee said it himself: "Its all my fault". I'm not even in the same ballpark as you folks but these things are so darn irritating to me too. Not understanding casualty figures...so elementary. Anyway, way to go, fun to watch + listen. Thanks for all you (all) do!

Is it weird that I go to sleep listening to Tim’s story telling each night

Can't get enough pet peeves. Tim makes me laugh😂😊

Tim is hands down the best Gettysburg historian

This was really great Tim. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and peeves.

I was a bus driver on one of your tours.

Tim, I agree with every point you made. I get especially upset when I hear complaints about Meade and his supposed inaction after the battle. We went to Gettysburg on our Honeymoon (1960). I hope to get there at least once more. Keep up the good work, I really enjoy your talks. I have visited there many times. Love history.

Outstanding presentation Tim, really absorbing. Would love to walk Pickett’s Charge fields with you next year on my annual trip to Gettysburg from across the pond! Happy 60th birthday by the way!

Ghost tours are my main irk-ism. They detract from the understanding of how scary and horrible the war actually was.

Great job, Tim.

Yes, Culp’s Hill has been long ignored.

Good program.

Meade did pursue, was never fired, still commanded the AOP at war's end, granted he was no longer the grand strategist in 1864, but he still commanded the Army.

Excellent! Thanks, Tim!

I had Truman as my guide. To me the romantic narrative that Gen. Armistead was so upset that Hancock had been wounded is interesting. One, they’re in battle, and I think Armistead would have been more concerned about the status of his troops, his own wounds, and the fact that their relationship is blown way out of proportion, especially with the movie Gettysburg. Meade was a solid commander, and there is a famous photograph of Grant and his staff, and in it Meade is pouring over a map.

Mr. Smith is speaking HIS truth! Best vid on RU-vid this week.

This is very good,

Love your analysis that Meade did a good job at Gettysburg, but there is no way the Union fights the Overland Campaign if Grant wasn't there driving him from one battlefield to the next. The war could have easily gone on another year at the pace Meade would have liked to fight it.

Fantastic! Thanks

Can you do a presentation on the third days battle at Culps hill? I'd be very interested in learning about it. I don't actually know if I've ever seen a video where they really talked about it in-depth. And to be honest I don't know if I've seen a video where they really get to in depth on the second days battle.

What is the best source for information on the relationship between Meade and Grant during the Overland Campaign? Thanks for the video, Tim.

Another excellent video! I am one of the few who, like the wounded General Hancock, believe that General Meade should have attacked immediately after "Pickett's Charge" had failed. Meade had a unique opportunity before him, but he was timid like almost all the union generals. Remember, Lee's army was also in disarray and greatly weakened from three days of combat. Wellington was not timid and attacked the French at Waterloo after Napoleon's "Picketts Charge" almost broke the outnumbered British line." And Wellington had a coalition army weakened by two major battles. Would Patton have sat back and played it safe? Would Jackson? You mention that most people do not know that General Meade commanded the Army of the Potomac until the end of the war. But you did not provide any examples of what military accomplishments General Meade actually had after Gettysburg. There is a reason General Grant gets the attention rather than General Meade. General Meade did a great job at Gettysburg, but he let an opportunity slip by. (Like General McClellan did at Antietam.)

I don't always agree with Tim Smith, but he is right about Grant not taking control of the Army of the Potomac. As a matter of fact, he had been asked by Sherman to accompany him, as they had known each other for years.

I agree 100%. People just don’t know their history. Meade was a great general and leader. Ask Grant!!

The one I have always choked on is when someone says, "...if Stonewall was still alive the South would have won Gettysburg.. " I say Boulder dash!

The You Tube Channel "Jeffrey the Librarian" has a very good overview of the Battle for Culps Hill. His delivery is a bit dry, but I came away with a much better understanding of the vital importance and incredible fighting that happened there on all three days.

Meade didn't possess the urgency required to possibly crush Lee. Meade also dithered around for months afterwards. Meade was a good division or corps commander. Meade was not mentally equipped to be a Army commander like Grant or Lee.

you are correct sir !

This is the kind of bitter, cynical, smart ass history snob content I'm lookong for. Thanks Tim! I'm being serious lol

a good COMANDER always listen to his generals

The 50k KIA irks my ire as well.

On Day #3 at Gettysburg, Robert E. Lee needed an F-35.

Pickett’s charge drama of an “almost success” is the same as the Chamberlain saving the free world on Little Round Top non-sense.

how was cannons moved - also into position ???

Excellent history on the third day, ever think of writing a book on your pet peeves, this is some really important things you talk about, should be written down.

Peeves always fire Tim up.😆

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Interesting

Many of the myths he debunks can be attributed to the movie Gettysburg; but hey, how many visitors visit Gettysburg because of the movie!

I wish you would show some passion when confronting these!🤪🤪🤪

Speaking of pet peeves.....Are those pencils made from witness trees 😂

Hey Tim, you’re a legend…. P.s there’s no EX in especially and there’s no SUS in subscribe 😜🤪

lee should of listened

I always think it’s amazing that the loser of a war, and a traitor who took up arms against this country has his likeness carved into a literal mountain in the country which he took arms against, while the victor has no such thing. A sad lesson in what propaganda will do to repaint history.

Right on about the BS about Ziegler’s Grove being the target of the “Charge”. My pet peeve: “CaLvary” and not “cavalry”. Aaagh! 😝

The "Pickett's charge almost succeeded" myth is another very popular sentiment amongst the X surrender flag crowd. They love their myths.

3rd day: COMPLETELY "ad lib" on the part of Lee. Complete ignorance coming from successive generations. 100% agreed with Tim. End