I didn't think of that but yes, classic matchup. Thay've had several matchups. Isn't Nolan the all-time strileout leader also? And Pete Rose should definitely be in the Hall.
Yes it was, baseball was everything when an average Joe could take his family ( of five) to a game or two... the players (almost all) would sign autographs and give the kids waiting after the game sometime... actually ask you what position you played.... something changed in the purest of games that should not have... it was a great time then...
Watching the talent on these teams, and a few others inspired me at an early age. There was si much talent, and character in the players of that era. Without the custom workout routines, personal trainers, and performance enhancing drugs that still looked like absolute pro's pros. Every kid wanted to be George Brett, or Pete Rose, Reggie Jackson, Ricky Henderson etc. It was a lot of fun try g to mimic batters stances and swi gs, and a lot of the pit hers had unique wind ups that worked for them. Dan Quisenberry comes to mind. Good times.
@@-sensibleChris I was a Dodger fan in the mid 70's to 80's but I was totally heart broken when Thurman Munson died. I had great respect for a lot of the players even though they weren't on my team, and Thurman was one of them. It was a fantastic time for me, as a kid, growing up during that incredible era of baseball.. I agree with everything you said.
In my early twenties as an Astros fan, I drove 120 miles to see him during his hitting streak at the Astrodome. A bit dramatic but a real baseball superstar historically speaking.
@@jospehfager7646 The comment you made about hitting one 87 mph fastball at the batting cages is a bit misleading. Why is it misleading you ask? Because the only possible prerequisite needed to consistently hit 87 mph fastballs at the batting cages is nothing more than a matter of repetitions for the average person who played little league games growing up. I didn't pick up a baseball bat from age 13 until about age 32 ish 👍it only took me about two weeks to start crushing 85-90 mph fastballs & in less than a month later I was crushing those same pitches, but, from three feet in front of the plate!!!
That 1985 Reds team will always have a special place in my heart. My beloved Reds had fallen on hard times, 1982-84 were terrible seasons. In Sept ‘84, Marge Schott brought Pete back to be player manager and, just like that, the Reds started winning again… in 1985, they surprised everyone by finishing a respectable second place in the NL West… I believe they won 87 games… Dave Parker should have been the NL MVP in 1985. He was a force at the plate… deserves to be on HOF… He had his most productive years offensively in Cincinnati… Has to be one of the best deals Bob Howsam ever put together…. Those were the days!
Yep. We definitely enjoyed a little bit of a renaissance in '85. Lou Pinella & the Nasty Boys were great in '90, but it was a little sad that Pete wasn't there. He gave Cincinnati EVERYTHING. My Hero. I grew up mimicking his batting stance. Good ol' days.
In 1978 Rose hit safely in 44 straight games, second to Joe D's 56! Pete was also voted as an All Star at 5 different positions during his career. He certainly belongs in the HOF!
I saw Rose during that hitting streak. The day after he broke Tommy Holmes 37 game hitting streak in NY against the Mets. It was a weekday afternoon “getaway” day game. Rose doubled up the gap in his first at bat and the place went wild cheering for him. This five years after Rose and Bud Harrelson of the Mets had their famous altercation in Game 3 of the NLCS where Rose was booed wildly. Earlier in the 1978 season on a Saturday afternoon game against the Mets Rose hit three home runs in one game!! He had the power to be a home run hitter if he wanted to be, but instead he chose to be the complete player and hitter.
I think the ban Rose agreed to was suppoed to be temporary, but when Commissioner Bart Giamatti died, baseball reneged and ironically, "alll bets were off." Today, MLB has partnered with Draft Kings, and is financially invested in sports betting. Talk about hypocrisy
@@leftykoufax7084 Paul Hourning bet on his own team to win games and was suspended fir one year then reinstated. It is time to end this hypocrisy and welcome Pete Rose back. Years ago I said never but now with MLB normalizing gambling in its own game Rose’s ban seems moot.
@@jayritchie851 The reason gambling was made illegal was Washington outfielder Ed Delahante was found killed in Niagra Falls, New York on July 3, 1903. Delahante was a star outfielder who heavily gambled.
Talk about two old-timers going at it in the mid eighties, that was classic! My dad, a big baseball fan and once played in the minors but gone now, god rest his soul, and I would debate about rose not being in the hall of Fame! He thought he shouldn't be because of the gambling and I thought he should because of his play on the field! Wish I could still debate it with him , rose still not in, but I think he will be after he passes eventually down the road! Thanks for showing this, brought back alot of memories!!
One of the greatest players in any sport of all time. It's time for him to be in the Hall. No one played harder in any game. You can't take away from how good he was on the field.
Man it feels good to be a free range human. Watching these games, some times on a black & white 14" TV, in a stationary store, after buying a few packs of Garbage Pail Kid cards, a Charleston Chew, and a Snapple French Cherry. Can we bring the magic back?
The last couple of months in the school year racing to the paper box before the school bus to get the box scores. Listening to games on the radio which is STILL awesome. No cable much less ESPN. Trading ball cards. Pony league tryouts. Beating every screen off of Mama''s house & even breaking some windows . WIFFLE BALL! Good ol' days. Would never ever trade them. Kids now have no idea.
@@DT-dz1jc coming from my generation it sounds like something fictional from a movie, though where you grow up can be the difference maker sometimes. I lived in an area with other kids so we’d play a little baseball, though it was hard to not hit a house. Some guy probably stole a bunch of Waveboards and sold them for 20$ to the people in my complex so everyone got one and we’d compete either in races or trying to knock each other off. When holidays came around we’d go over to the nearby shopping district and see how many of those cheep tree light bulbs you could pop before your fingers hurt either by burning or plastic splinter (not the smartest idea in retrospect) childhoods can change but in the right area you can still be free range
Like a lot of players he became eligible right when the steroids started kicking in and his typical 25/90/.290 stat line didn't look all that amazing. Then people kinda just forgot about him.
@@maladyjohnson3397 The baseball brass is so out of touch. They think by going woke and encouraging the young stars to 'show personality' they will get Millenials and Gen Z to watch. Too late baseball. Few people under age 50 care about your game and it's your fault for the most part. So go on and let your young stars act like jackasses after hitting a homerun. Who cares.
I would love to meet Pete Rose. I had a Pete Rose model bat when I was a kid. (still have it in the basement somewhere). I would love to have him autograph it.
I still can't believe the Astros let Ryan go at age 41. He signed with the Rangers and plays for 5 more years, gets to 300+ wins and 2 no-hitters...smh.
@@jimsannerud6254 Ryan said he didn't want to stay in New York. the Mets could've gotten something back in return for him way better than a Jim Fregosi.
The Express was just made differently. A real BULLDOG. He was just warming up at 100 pitches. If there were pitchers even kinda like him today the bat flips would not come so regularly. Remember Ventura mistakenly thinking he could take him when Ryan was like 40 something? He got headlocked & POUNDED & then Ryan got a standing ovation. Dude's tough as nails.
It's so refreshing to hear the voice of Gene Elston. Many sportscasters today are just chit chatting, and having a ball with giving us their personal opinions . Gene mostly gave. " Just the facts, and let the listener draw their own conclusions.
I remember Gene Elston. Was with the Astros (Colt 45's) from their inception, 1962. But I remember him from the 70s and 80s since Im not QUITE that old. Lol. Him and Dwayne Staats. To me he is still THE voice of the Astros since his is the first voice I heard connected to Astros Baseball as a little kid.
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Try hitting a not in my own hour i-90 mile an hour fastball put it in play or out of play and run. Do that one time, then you're going to comment and maybe matter those guys or awesome
I was a junior in high school and baseball was my life. Saw Nolan Ryan pitch for the Angels in the 70s against Vida Blue and his Oakland A's at the old Big A in Anaheim, Ca. The sport has changed in so many ways since then and not so much in good ways.
Three legends. Charlie Hustle should be in the HOF and it's an injustice that he's not. Had he bet against his team then okay, I'd understand the ban and would actually support it. But he didn't bet against his team. He bet that his team would win, proving that he never deliberately did something to cause his team to lose. Put Pete in the HOF where he belongs! Dave Parker's resume speak for itself. 7x all-star. 3X gold glove, 3x silver slugger, 2x NL batting champion. .290 career avg. 2,712 hits. All three of these guys should be in the HOF. That only one is is a travesty.
One major reason gambling is not allowed in gambling was outfielder Ed Delanante, a .340 hitter, was found dead in Niagra Falls, New York on July 3,1903. It was suspected that the mafia killed Delanante over gambling.
It's never been researched fully whether he bet against the Reds. Regardless, just because he bet on his team to win that doesn't mean he didn't compromise the games before or after the ones he bet on. If he knows he's betting on Tuesday's game, he could easily keep relief pitchers rested on Monday night when he doesn't bet. The bookies taking his bets could relay his betting patterns (which I'm sure they did) and thus every game becomes compromised.
Never realized how BIG Parker was.. Can't believe Rose is NOT in the HOF. that's a huge injustice. but an even BIGGER injustice is Bonds. He has the record walks at the plate and he wasn't a slouch on the pads either. His 688 INTENTIONAL walks is more than TWICE the guy in 2nd place. THAT was how scary he was at the plate. Nobody and I mean NOBODY wanted anything to with him up there because he had no weaknesses and he saw the zone better than the umps. There will never be another Barry Bonds.I used to absolutely love to watch this guy bat (and so did everyone else). Nope you did not take your potty break when he was up there!
If you're talking classic, you have to go back to the Polo Grounds, Ebbett's Field, Forbes Field, Milwaukee County Stadium, not the ill-conceived multi-use stadiums. It's good that MLB is going back to baseball-only parks.
Clemente, Dawson, Kaline, i saw. Most underrated was Dwight Evans from Red sox. Parker had arm but not the coverage. Sam with Strawberry. Had all the talent. Never took it seriously. Biggest lame ass was Sosa. Had all the skills but one. Could not locate the ball. Why. Cause he never put in the effort. Bonds let sosa and mcguire turn him into a bigger loser then he already was.
@@shawnyoung8752 I once saw Fred Lynn throw Willie Wilson out at 3B from the wall just right of dead centerfield in KC. I was amazed. Dwight Evans did have a cannon.
C2ittcase. That wilson gets ghrown out at any base was arare thing. Grew up in chicago in 60s 70s. Was lucky to be able to see both leagues. Only NY, chicago, and bay area had that. La had 40 miles and no publuc trans.
I met him once when he had his restaurant in Boca Raton Florida. He was cordial but didn't talk much. He had his own hall of fame display there at the time.
Yes, right next to the turnpike. He had his own little booth where he talked on the radio. Just to the left as you walked in. Also, on the same street (Glades Road) but a few miles further west, was a restaurant named...what else...Wilt Chamberlain's.🦾
Hey, we went there a few times as well!! Miniature HOF with the displays and historical souvenirs from his playing days. I was shaking like crazy when I first saw him there in the booth, 5 feet away! Best baseball player in my lifetime.
@@ralphsanchico2452 I always find it hard to support Rose after he bet against his team when he was their coach. Also, after he ruined the catchers career after he ran him over in an All-star game(Fossy?).
@@mr.d8214 Trust me, There's not alot of (Professional) sympathy from me when it comes to Rose! I remember the Fossy collision like it was yesterday when I saw it on our Black and White TV. He showed zero concern and that pretty much planted that seed in me. Then to top it off, as a Met fan, he starts a fight with Buddy Harrelson and that was that! Buddy, (before he sadly developed Altziemers) still was bitter about that one! Character counts in my book and even if you had a million bucks in your pocket, you couldn't convince 10 decent people to take them out to a free fancy dinner if you have a soiled reputation!
Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan, versus two players in Pete Rose and Dave Parker, who could at the very least argue should be in the HOF, because they're 2 of the best all around players of their era.
@@roland7584 yeah so I was wrong I liked there tough play rose incredible skills went to the all star game in 5 different positions not to mention the head first slide no big deal enjoy your Life JTH
I saw Ryan (and Rose) in Crosley Field 1969. I was 2 years behind Don Gullet at McKell h. s. and I used to hearing the kind of pop made by a superior MLB fastball. But Ryan --- though he couldn't hit a barn door hardly at 60 feet--- was somehow louder, faster than that. He. Was. Scary. Really, I sat down the 1st base side behind the dugout a ways, and I was afraid Ryan'd kill somebody. (How they stood in against him earned my eternal wonder and respect.--- I wouldn't have done it for a million dollars!)
I'm old enough to remember Ryan as a met so I saw his whole career. Watching this video, I don't remember Ryan being such a slow worker. After almost every pitch her needs to take a stroll...they should've put a chair next to the mound so he could sit down for a few moments before the next pitch.
The good ole days of baseball when you can just turn on the tv and follow your home team and catch the national televise games on ABC and NBC, now days my dish provider doesn't offer bally sports to watch my team 😣
My dad had it made when he retired. Cable TV, and he was a Pirates fan. Cable had New York, Chicago, Atlanta, and locally Cincinnati. They would sometimes play the whole series on cable, and that was a lot of games that he watched. All he paid for was a little cable bill to watch all that Baseball.
I have been to lots of games at the Astrodome. Being at the Dome was half of the event. Amazing place. I wish I was at this game tho. Pete Rose vs Nolan Ryan would be a 6 beer 3 domedog kind of game.
