Peter Hitchens: Britain 'hasn't realised' level of incoming ideological shift under Labour 

But he isn’t running a cuntry

Why? He changes his mind frequently.

He did say that neither Cameron May, Johиsoи, Truss nor Sunak really believed in anything.

Hard to call him dogmatic when almost no other public figure says the things he does and most people don't agree with him

@@towhichwayout So does Keir Starmer.

25 years you mean

You have not seen anything yet

Yes 4 years of misery coming, wait for the increases in council tax; fuel duty and other stealth taxes. Then at the end they will probably leave the country bankrupt just as Brown did.

I understand what you mean but if you think it isn't possible to stoop any lower... well don't tempt fate.

@@nemz7505No he stated fourteen years, learn to bloody read.

Don’t know if Labour will do worse but they won’t do any better than the Tory’s. Different faces of the same coin. Neither care for the people

Don’t know if Labour will do any worse than the Tory’s but they won’t do any better! Different faces of the same coin. Neither care for the people and both are compulsive liars.

Don’t know if Labour will do any worse than the Tory’s but they won’t do any better! Different faces of the same coin. Neither care for the people and both are compulsive liars.

Don’t know if Labour will do any worse than the Tory’s but they won’t do any better! Different faces of the same coin. Neither care for the people and both are compulsive liars.

Don’t know if Labour will do any worse than the Tory’s but they won’t do any better! Different faces of the same coin. Neither care for the people and both are compulsive liars.

hes a tory, he doesnt have one.

He’s not a Tory. He’s conservative

Isn’t it just being a contrarian as long as it brings attention?

@@tobiastrier I think that's pretty spot on.

He's amoral, he only cares about himself and his.

Yes, I’m a way it’s quite impressive to be so far gone. I admire him!😂

It's unbelievable that he is the bother of the great Christopher Hitchens

@@rwo5402 It's the other way round.

@@Ruda-n4hNo it isn’t, this man is an incompetent pro-russian troll.

@@davidmacdonald1695 Read his books.

Who knows, he's against everything and everyone.

Yes....this former communist stands for his own moral and intellectual superiority.

The only time Peter Hitchens cheers up is when he talks about his memories of visiting Russia. He has a 'chocolate box' view of Russian culture.

Indeed

The guy (Hitchens) hates to be challenged. Check out his interview with RU-vidr Alex O'Connor. It's fascinating to watch an old man behave like a toddler.

funny how the election has been turned on its head lol

Lack of funding is an understatement, we have a huge deficit, as the government has to pay back old gilts/bonds they have to borrow more money at higher interest rates to pay the original bond holder back. That means the percentage of the tax receipt spent on interest will sky rocket further. I am saying this from a non political perspective, there is no more money to be borrowed unless you would like to see interest rates in double digits. This country is in a severe sovereign debt crisis and without cutting spending on something and getting it under country it will get worse and worse. Who ever wins this election is going to be handed a ticking time bombs and it will probably go off before the end of the year. I wish our so called leaders had been straight up with the country and told them how bad the issue is but instead they called an early election so they could get out of dodge before the bomb explodes. Did you not find it odd at how they called an election with only 6 weeks notice or how they seem to be doing everything they can to lose?

The lack of funding is a lie they tell you. Since 1844, the UK Govt has had the legal monopoly on the creation of the pound. The UK can never run out of its own currency. Even the BoE have repeated this many times and written papers on money creation being adding zeros to bank balance. Buying resources in Sterling is never a problem. If the Government can issue it's currency it never needs to borrow it's own currency. We had 250% debt after the war yet here we still are in 2024 and the sky didn't fall in. Japan took out a 'loan', form the central bank, the Central Bank it owns, to pay off it's own 'debt'. Any loan payments made by the Japanese Govt, are returned to the Government account in BoJ. That's how ridiculous it is. It's just a book-keeping exercise. This is how Govts and Central banks work.

How are you sure the “deep ideological beliefs” you so hope will be put into practice will bring forth the kind of wonderful world you are hoping for?

@@Ti-up3dv I can't be sure but I definitely know the Tories will continue with their incompetence if re-elected. I am not expecting a wonderful world.

Your kidding, right? That vacuum between Statmer's ears will soon get filled by every minority group collective taking a dump there. Starmer is extremely dangerous in that he has no idea what he's going to be expected to do, but he'll do it any way.

You're very optimistic

They will be inept and corrupt. Just a different kind of inept and corrupt.

When Labour's on the same crown corporation payroll? Thank goodness Labour won't be able to do anything in office with only 20% of the electorate's vote.

HUH? Labour are going to get in!!!!! The last time this happened the leader was wanted all around the world for war crimes!!

His brother, less so.

Hitchens (Peter) called him a Stalinist!

Yes. His brother Peter is useless.. a sad sibling living his life in the shadow of his older brother.

@@adrianhughes7515 Peter the (less) Great, not a vey punchy title however accurate 😆

@@sirrodneyffing1His brother just had a better speaking voice.

This Hitchens has always been crazy, unlike his brilliant brother Christopher an absolutely beautiful human and greatly missed.

@@factstrumpprejudice6740 You need to read his books. Pete's the brilliant one.

I have watched them all & loving how unhinged, panicked and defeated he comes out as. When Fraser Nelson can’t believe your Labour scaremongering then you’ve truly lost the plot. I’m just watching it for entertainment 😂

And he's right. That others are too low IQ to realise what's happening, they don't like hearing the reality of the situation.

@@MAC_ABC Nelson is like all mainstream commentators - he's clueless about left wing politics and what's going on around him.

Money already left and us too. Smiling.

Labour won't be able to do anything with only 20% of the electorate's vote.

No loopholes will be stopped ..there are 22 thousand pages of tax avoidance in the uk . No government ever dissolves them .regards

If you weren't so bereft of grey matter, you'd understand that more tax and no chance of escaping it is bad for you as well. I'm working class, and I'd legally avoid the government taking my hard earned money if I could, considering the little I receive back in return for such monetary misappropriation.

Mouth stuffed with plums, is why.

England is a class system country. Upper class no matter how mediocre you are will always be treated like the rulers.

They invite many who parrot the narratives of the murdochs.

​​​​@@D_isco_D_ancer Have you not experienced the last 60 years? This comment section alone is evidence that nowadays someone with too plummy a voice is ridiculed by assigning them to the upper class (he's not), something now seen as bad in an of itself

He is well established in the media. Plus - despite his view of himself as some sort of outsider or rebel, his views are actually still stuck firmly in the Overton Window of acceptable political debate.

no

No, they are hailed as a sensible chap who understands how the real world works.

Yep we've had 10 years of pure Tory dogma and nothing else.

@@jackdubz4247 Which is more than a little ironic.

Starmer was a member of a trotskyist sect know as pabloism while he was training to become a lawyer, they strongly favour Green policies and sexualised cultural propaganda policies, left wings views hes admitted to still holding, that would be the Dogmatic views peter refers to because they heavily influence his politics. You don't have to like him but Peter has a great understanding of these marxist ideologies and understands their consequences better than most.

No they get called far right ,it is all media BS that the mugs fall for

Look up Rees Mogg he is even worse.

Because past=bad and present=good

😂 😂😂😂😂

​@@jonzu217Hitchens and Mogg are complementary reactions to the left: Peter Hitchens rings the bells of doom as he bewails the leftists' imbecilic attraction to imbecilic theories. Rees Mogg, meanwhile, represents a response to the anti-traditionalism and anti-natalism of the Left: He and his wife have babies while the left refuses to do so. They dress elegantly while the left (by and large) refuses to do so. Hitchens highlights what wrong with the left, and Mogg shows a way out of the Slough of leftist Despond.

Why do so many people think this is some kind of clever argument. The age of something has literally zero bearing on whether or not it has value. Why don’t you debate his ideas rather than commenting on whether he is fashionable? Conformity to fashion has enabled some of the worst events in global history. Why is it an insult to say “this man doesn’t sound the same as everyone else”?

Read his books. Peter has decades of hard experience of politics around the world.

@@Ruda-n4h He is still only a writer, and has one vote like the rest of us. As distant from humans as Sunak.

Still, he is interesting person and willing to have discussions about big subjects. That is valuable in it self. Even if he is a conservative old fogey in many aspects ;-)

The half sensible things he comes out with are so massively outweighed by nonsensical drivel that it's really not worth paying much attention to him.

With the Kennedys the wrong brother died twice.

Yes, get rid of opinions that challenge your own

​@Rootle2 there's a difference between opinions that challenge and opinions that are nonsense. Do you want to hear a flat-earthers opinion in a scientific documentary?

@@kityhawk2000 If he has anything interesting to say. Depends if it's relevant or not. Of course I think most flat-earthers are silly but there was one guy who actually was genuinely curious, did calculations and even flew up in a plane to see the curvature for himself. That's more than can be said for most lay people who just accept scientific consensus without learning the science themselves. So fair play to him

He was pretty contradictory in his view that Blair was both deeply ideological and just a puppet of Alistair Campbell. Ridiculous statement that was just meant to sound clever and cynical (Blair's biggest detractors never thought he was just a puppet)...

@@gareth2736 So you can't be both ideological and take orders from your supervisor who has the same ideology?

What about Mathew is he OK for you...

Riding his brothers coattails

He's speaks uncomfortable truths which people don't want to hear.

Flat earthers can get airtime, Young Earth Creationists get airtime also. People with outdated and dogmatic beliefs such as Peter Hitches, do seem to believe they have credible ideas and claims, such as believing that a magical deity is the only power allowed to be "seriously dogmatic".

@@Ruda-n4h Which uncomfortable truths did he speak in this interview? I only ask because most of what I heard was his usual incoherent clap-trap.

Totally agree. People don’t seem to realise that problems are complex and so solved via a nuanced as opposed to extreme approaches

Who's they?

​@@moomin7461voters?

Not as much as people will regret for again re-electing the Tory party.

Fake News

What will we regret? Explain your hypothesis please as opposed to this vacuous posturing

He’s a Daily mail writer, says it all

Nothing, I think that's the problem

His own ego and narcissism! 👎

@@alexhenderson1312 A bit like that other Mail writer, forgot his name, had numerous kids and is quite mad.

On his bicycle(as he loves riding it) - and not an E-scooter, as he thinks they should be banned. Definitely not drugs though - as don't get him started on debating that.

Indeed.

Google Labour 25

More fool you and woe betide all of us then.

If you're a dogmatic leftist you will like labour

But Peter only cares about conservative type people. He was projecting in this interview when he said Labour would only work for Labour voters. Projection. Pure and simple.

If you've not been affected by the consequences of unprecedented immigration, constitutional changes to how you're governed, devolution of Scotland and Wales, over-expansion of university education and student debt, war in Iraq and Afghanistan, plundering of gold reserves and pensions, punishing levels of national debt through public/private financing of services/infrastructure.... then yes, in the round, those Labour years were good for you. The Tories, to their shame, continued the motion to bring a total of 27 lost years for the UK. New Socialism, Multi-culturalism, Woke ideology, DEI and overall lack of vision and courage has finished the job. Britain is now a shell of its former self and weaker than it has ever been on every level. You've been hollowed out. Good luck with that. WFH

@@wongfeihung9724 I was just going to mention all those myself but you got there before me. I would add - politicised the police force, judiciary and civil service, and surrendered to the IRA under pressure from the U.S., oh, and ruined dentistry as well.

Agee on all points. The masses just remember the 90s positively and associate that with Bliar. They don’t realise the mess we’re in is because of Bliar, Brown and Campbell.

@@stevend9960 we've had 14 years of the tories in power. They've had more than enough time to put things right. Instead they've made everything worse.

@@wulfhere83 😂😂😂

Vote Reform

@@wulfhere83🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@wulfhere83 I sort of know what you mean, but some of these stats don't seem to ring true in the real world. I don't feel I live in that 6th richest country

It was as they abandoned conserving anything after Blair,maybe earlier.

Like all sons of toolmakers ....

@@advocate1563 🤣

No Starmer is the tool his dad was a tool maker don't confuse your tools CH is more of a lemon

@@rolandhawken6628 This is peter not christopher.

@@zog97xy Oh Peter Rabbit?

facts don't care about your feelings

@@scepteredisle Yes and the fact is that PeterHitchens is barking mad.

​@@CeticWalesHe's a shadow of his brother.

@@captainbadger1013 Agree, loved how Christopher Hitchens went after those Isl*mic fascists.

​​@@captainbadger1013, his brother who liked Tony Blair and Stephen Fry, and invading foreign countries illegally? Yeah, top bloke that CH.

Prioritise people born here and verify foreigners and non citizens pay their dues

I think he is trying to say that Kier Starmer has some strongTrotsky ideas which are totalitarian.With Labour in power our freedoms will be limited.and democracy in name only.We will be ruled by unelected experts which the Labour government will hide behind.

He sees that their Trotskyism is in fact much more dangerous than the incompetent and deceitful Conservative party.

*greedy *hoarder

The pigs at the welfare state trough have done that. Oink.

@@jeffsimon9594maybe if tories hadn’t funnelled money from schools it would be spelled write ( also jokes dyslexia and typos exists)

@@llarmerfarmer5905 Some kids simply don't want to learn no matter how much taxpayers' cash is blasted into schools.

@@jeffsimon9594Might as well just get rid of school altogether then and those that want to learn can find their own way, if the argument that a small percentage of children don’t wish to learn.

He generally does. But he believes that tories will move less quickly to the left than the tories. The Tories are useless Blairites in his view, while Labour are ideologically fully committed to the Blairite project and will permanently change Britain

Lol everyone is on the left if you are on the far right

@@kityhawk2000 not sure it right to call him ‘far right’. He’s more a traditional religious conservative

And potentially get an even further right Tory party in Reform 😂

Quit the apostrophe abuse

@@jeffsimon9594 try and get a real understanding of how you are being controlled by the system of politicians.

@@martinjohncassidyCASSIDY No silly I was talking about your spelling!

Starmer's party is definitely that...

HAHAHA.!! AND YOU THINK IT WILL BE BETTER UNDER LABOUR, YOU NOT SEEN ANYTHING YET,100% ONLY YOURSELF TO BLAME.??!!

@@gillianslater9227 Ridiculous person!

@@MrSensible2 HAHAHA.! 100% MORE SENSIBLE THAN YOU, SUNSHINE.!!! YOUR NAME NOT WORKING FOR YOU. AH.!!!!!! VOTE REFORM, REFORM, REFORM.100%.!!

Hitchens is always right but people don't realise until about 10 years later then it's too late.

@@Ruda-n4h And now can you tell us all what he predicted 10 years ago that has turned out right. You will be fact-checked. I’m sure we all are eagerly awaiting your response.

@@Jessjoe1956 Off the top of my head If you wanted to save the Conservative party you should not have voted for Cameron in 2010. In 1997 Blair was actually a dangerous radical not some nice moderate. The lockdowns were a riduclous panic, and masks were not effective. That one took less time. The next one is net zero.

Then you are a fool.

Tonali

why did two pac suddenly start saying one thing then deny he said it a second later? lol

Peter Hitchens is no 2pac, he's not even MC Hammer.

No he didn't, he was saying they wouldn't care about Tory voters, so they should be careful about just punishing a Tory MP by voting emotionally against them for the likes of Reform because they'll let Labour in who don't care about Tory voters.

It's because you can't argue with him that you want to shut him down.

We will start by growing the reform youth into a group that terrifies the left and Stamer is going to be a great recruitment agent for reform youth wing.

Hitchens is a true patriot. You aren't,and neither is starmer.

@@Edward-cv2gw I suspect I am a good deal, more patriotic than Peter Hitchens. I wouldn’t have sold everything we own in the public sector to foreign banks and foreign governments. He totally approved of that policy. Also, he approved of wrecking our economy for the benefit of a few city types by removing ourselves from the biggest market. I actually believe in sovereignty I would like it if we owned our water companies and our railways

Reform youth will take care of this

There isn't any change in British politics, just different faces.

We've had Blairism for 27 years, now it's going to go into overdrive.

Cons have been left wing Blairites throughout.

They do it every time. It's not in error. People frequently object. They're a professional media organisation. We must be the wrong headed ones.

Actually you are wrong. I’ve bought and read all of Christopher’s work and was very sad when he died of cancer. But he smoked and drank very heavily. Peter has looked after his health so, the right brother died. You seem to be propounding some absurd hypothetical system in which the more harm one does to one’s body the stronger and healthier one becomes. How would that work?

@@turbolevo8703 From the perspective of who looked after their health but from who I wan to listen to I would much prefer to have Christopher about rather than this curmudgeon.

​@@turbolevo8703Wtf are you going on about.

@@jeffree9015 I’m not here to provide remedial assistance to amoeba.

@@freebornjohn2687 And you think it’s acceptable to wish Cancer on Peter Hitchens because you preferred to listen to his brother?

I hate the tories as much as the next guy but I don't think they are right wing in practice. They've conserved nothing.

Replace it with a left wing nightmare?

"right wing" lol. We're about to go from far left to very far left

What "right-wing nightmare" would that be? You are truly idiotic.

​@@stleonards1066Good.

You've confused 'brain' with 'ego'.

@@slyfondle1885it’s a reference to “Hitchhiker’s …”, and Hitchens sounds just like the robot.

@@patrikfloding7985 Some folks don't get it.

@@Standwithisrael67 That's just playing tricks with the definition of Socialist. West Germany has had a Social Democrat government so presiumably it's an ex-socialist country. Much the same can be said of every European country west of the old Iron Curtain. But, if you say, "No, I was talking about ex-Warsaw Pact states," then a somewhat socialist democratically elected government isn't equivalent, is it?

@@Standwithisrael67 "Says someone who has clearly never been to a former socialist country" Sweden seems pretty good. |'ve been there a few times and it's extremely well run. Housing is cheap relative to the UK, the health services works, people get free university education, public transport is fully integrated between buses and trains, crime is so low people don't lock up their bikes. The social housing estates look like luxury accommodation compared to the UK, BMWs parked outside etc. Finland is very similar. Ultra organised, low crime, low cost of housing, free university education, working health service. If that's socialism then I'm all for it.

@@JohnSmall314 Have you really seen what socialism did to Sweden ? They are now governed by a right wing party. And Finland have a National Coalition government after liberal Marin got kicked out.

@@JohnSmall314 No that's not socialism, the Soviet Empire where 7 families shared an apartment was socialism

​@@bwilliams572Finland's right wing is still to the left of starmer

Like most people on these programs he has been a journalist for his whole adult life. He would actually probably consider himself an expert on left wing politics because he was part of the Trotsky movement during his youth and later lived and worked in Soviet Russia as a correspondent for the Daily Express

@@michaelmccomb2594so he’s projecting his own earlier naiveties on everyone else?

@@patrikfloding7985 I assume he would said on the far-left side, that he has experience being part of the movement, so he knows how these people think, in a way that people without his experience don’t.

He doesn't present himself as an expert, in fact he often points it out. How can you assume he has no credentials when you know nothing about him and haven't bothered to find out?

Hes a journalist and disillusioned former far left socialist, he knows a fair bit about the far left that isn't obvious from near the centre.

They want you to think they're centre, or centre left, when in fact their leader is a Trotskyist.

He's a genius.

Clowns are funny. I see no evidence of a sense of humour from Hitchens.

@@Ruda-n4hhe believes in a fairy in the sky.

@@patrikfloding7985 It's no fairy.

He's an actual social conservative, so the Times thought they'd get one on for once.

Not-voting is a meaningless protest.