Absolutely agree. You always knew where he stood, even if it wasn't the best for his own personal outcome. Rupert Friend played the character magnificently. One of my most favorite TV characters of all time.
@@maazkalimthe only thing regarding that „Islamist Anti-Israel, Anti-America“ agenda that makes sense to me would be October 7th 23. But like you said the numbers don’t make sense…with a (few) typo(s) they do
Most of the time the government uses Hollywood to propagate their interest and make it real outside. They make you think that you know one or two things then you get your happy hormones and they get their sh*t done and hormones too.
Claire Danes herself mentioned in interviews how CIA ("retired"), Israeli and other spooks would run a crash course before every season to get the cast and writers up to speed. They did some fuck ups though it might have been to progress the plot of the writers like terrorists able to sneak into the US embassy, Pakistanis supposedly protesting in front of the embassy and a blonde American running around from motorcycles using a gate that opens up to the street. Carrie was even walking on the streets of Kabul on the way to the CIA station when America and the UK flew instead of taking the road between the Kabul airport and the US embassy. The program still shows the thinking and perhaps the wet dreams of the spooks like Israel denuclearizing Iran or an actual attempted invasion of Pakistan by Afghan based US forces (lol!) And Pakistan deploying nuclear equipped missiles at the border just because an American president was killed in a helicopter crash. I wonder if Bolton was the consultant for the last season because even unpredictable Trump didn't invade Pakistan after his rants in 2017.
Love the series but this show is blatant propaganda lol the CIA is responsible for 95% of the strife in the Middle East, Africa, South America, Eastern Europe, and Asia
Perhaps the most accurate assessment of the situation ever uttered....and it's a TV show, no less. If a politician ever read those lines in front of a camera, he'd be assured of reelection for the foreseeable future. Wow. Just wow.
without nuclear reset, isis by country, was defeated. he was a wrong rookie, as cia rookies often are, it could be solved without the ultimate. not as fast as young people want, but as completely without international incident. you must understand this.
@@Redmanticore _Hello, McFly!_ Did you forget to take your Ritalin? First, if you followed the show, Quinn was not a CIA "rookie". Second, he did not mention the use of "nuclear" weapons; he mentioned pounding the ISIS stronghold. Third, the eventual real-life successful operation against the terrorist group's capital was, as correctly perceived by Quinn's assessment, demonstrably _not_ achieved by special forces operations; rather, the Battle of Raqqa (2017) that obliterated ISIS's territorial aspirations did indeed involve considerable aerial and artillery bombardment that leveled 80% of Raqqa. So much, then, for _your_ joke of an assessment.
i do not think, in hindsight it is amazing. it is wrong. without nuclear reset, isis by country, was defeated. he was a wrong rookie, as cia rookies often are, it could be solved without the ultimate. not as fast as young people want, but as completely without international incident. you must understand this.
People only heard the 2nd option. What he meant was that the west won't get anywhere by war. Educating and providing people with a chance to hope for a world without war is the 1st option.
The really sad thing is that the CIA started this whole shit-show of the "FSA" (which is really just dozens of Islamic terrorist groups like Al Nusra Front) to begin with, as part of a greater agenda to get another member of the Russian Federation's Sphere of Influence off of the chess table (Bashar Al Assad), and then insert a US puppet, with the further goal of finally being able to build a pipeline from Saudi Arabia up the mediterranean coast through Israel, Syria, Turkey, and into Europe. Russia under Putin has refused to bend over and take it in the ass from the Western Banking Cartel so they were targeted for dismantlement (as they already were before Putin, but Putin saw what was happening and prevented it with his own coup) Putins privatization of the energy sector and pro-nationalist reforms led to Ukraine/Russia/Belarus all experiencing substantial increase in GDP and quality of life, when the staged coup in Kiev happened using Georgian operators to pose as federal security forces to throw fuel on the staged demonstrations which were being bankrolled by the Western Banking Cartel. (protestors were bussed in, housed in tents, fed hot meals and paid 20 USD a day) Don't even get me started on the fucking CIA and Pentagon helping ISIL fucking disgusting. "Friends of Syria" my ass, more like friends of no one!
I heard both options. US tried training the Afghan soldiers - but they couldn't even manage that. Why? Because the ANA troops would be high off weed and hash all the times.
without nuclear reset, isis by country, was defeated. he was a wrong rookie, as cia rookies often are, it could be solved without the ultimate. not as fast as young people want, but as completely without international incident. you must understand this.
Well, Homeland was originally a show in Israel. The production company that made the American version of the show , "Showtime" is actually part of CBS Corp. Last time I looked, the CEO of CBS Corp was a close relative of one of the former Prime Ministers of Israel. So basically this entire show was pretty heavily salted with Mossad propaganda, along with everything else that comes out of CBS
Brilliant... Ever since the situation started unfolding all I kept thinking is how much Homeland was right and accurate and how much I miss it😔😪... We must all put the people of Afghanistan in our prayers to the living Holy God...
@@pratimchakraborty1926 Yes there is. Not because I just believe or hope that there is but because I know so. He has healed me of an affliction I suffered for many years and all by just speaking to me His word in the Holy Bible. He is the creator of all life, Jehovah Lord God Almighty is His name. But He is a God to them who want Him to be their God and call on Him and believe in Him. If I never believed in Him I would be dead because what would be the point of life? Just to be born to fight to live in order to just die? May He be merciful and gracious to you and reveal himself to you in the name of Jesus Christ our Saviour.
@@wctrqn he needs a spinoff or a sequel, nobody cares about Elizabeth keane that the the writers were trying to force unto us to like her better than Quinn, fuck the writers.
A spin off of peter quinn as special forces personnel showing how he was trained to be so deadly and how his personal life went would be brilliant to watch.
Lindsay Graham invokes this great American lie often “if we didn’t shtop Hitler he’d have taken over the world”. Uh, isn’t that exactly what American Empire has done? Projection.
forget common short sense, remember common long wisdom: without nuclear reset, isis by country, was defeated. he was a wrong rookie, as cia rookies often are, it could be solved without the ultimate. not as fast as young people want, but as completely without international incident. you must understand this.
I wonder why it's only a fraction of a percentage of so-called Muslims who are radicalized. Where were these radical elements before they were armed and nurtured by the west? They were definitely not around since the 7th century and the Quran does not mention the return of slavery or the eradication of infidels from the world during the end times.
@@sagnikmondal4058 Where does the Quran mention the return of slavery or the eradication of infidels from the world during the end times? Don't think too hard
00:45 In Saul, Quinn sees a potential mentor-like figure. I think he develops a genuine admiration for and understanding of Saul in a way that he probably never admired Dar Adal and certainly does not respect Estes. We can say that Quinn was one of the best-built characters in history - alongside Carrie, Saul and Brody... It would be possible to clarify the following doubts: - Would you like to see Homeland reveal how the CIA explained Brody in Iran and his death to the American press? - Clearly, Javadi's ability to receive credit for Brody's capture helped his cause in Iran, but did the US government reveal Brody's role in Akbari's murder? - Was your name cleared for the CIA attack? I'd love to know what you think. - Another loose thread: Paul Franklin and the murder of the "real" CIA bomber. He ended up doing that scene ... why ?? Carrie was publicly humiliated, beaten, doped, shot and put her life on the line countless times without hesitation, just to make others see Brody as she saw him ... and she succeeded. Abu Nazir, the CIA, Jessica and the show's own audience, no one came close to seeing Brody with the clarity Carrie has always seen. Carrie has always read Brody like no one else. Ah, Carrie's dialogue with Javadi was incredible, it will be one of the most memorable moments in the series, without a doubt! “And what you wanted, which was for everyone to see what you see in him. That happened. Everyone sees it through your eyes now ... ” - How did Carrie see Brody? and how did the US come to see this? It's the world? The 3rd season did not correspond to the 1st and 2nd as it should be. Compared to most seasons it was weak, as the plot and plot issues that were overlooked or addressed briefly stood out in season 3. There was no "hunting" in Brody's scenes earlier in the season to make it look like he really was desired NOS. Where Roya Hammad and his terrorist partner M.M. They were? We never received an explanation for the events surrounding how Brody's car was moved and his involvement, only what we got was the "real" author of the bomb at the CIA in a hotel that we must believe to be a super leap that changed the script. For such an investment in storytelling around Brody's family over the past 3 seasons, for him to just disappear the way he did, it was a waste of time - to make Dana's story worse, it was shallow. And all those scenes about Mike and Brody's wife continually in love with each other, and just ending up in season three were useless - and Brody's son disappeared. What about Brody's marine friends who thought he was part of the conspiracy? And Quinn's underutilization throughout the season after being instrumental in the beginning of the second season's premiere. All positive points, they should have made the homeland a show of this 3rd season and address every possible plot! Claire Danes and Damian Lewis gave us, in Damian’s words, “two broken-winged birds sort of hobbling and circling around each other” in Carrie and Brody in such a compelling way that even though it really ended in tears, it was a GREAT RIDE as long as it lasted. And if you miss these two as much as we do, you may want to re-live the LOVE with Carrie and Brody: Was It Love? YES. Quin and Brody... I loved both of them. Both inspiring and very human, dealing with their struggles. Actually the whole series is full of so interesting characters... Quinn’s ending was heartbreaking, and so raw... I hated that he died, the show was not the same without him, something was missing, the stor ended unfinished Homeland had a sensible ending, closed all of Carrie's stories, while continuing the ongoing story of America's and Russia's rivalry. The series ends, but does not end, only better than that was seeing all these years incredible performances by Davis, Damian Lewis, Rupert Friend and Mandy Patinkin ...
Simply great writing and acting. Reminds me a little of the movie BREACH … about Soviet Spy/American FBI Supervisor Robert Hanssen. The FBI tracker team closing in on Hanssen led by FBI Supervisor played by Laura Linney explains to her "plant" played by Ryan Phillippe, the full scope of how evil and treasonous Hanssen is - when Phillippe begins liking Hanssen and can't believe he's a traitor … She lays out the body count, the wrecked projects, the botched investigations. "Eric O'Neill (Phillipe): What if he's smarter than I am? Kate Burroughs (Linney): A couple of years ago, the bureau put together a task force. Lots of assets had been disappearing. So this task force was formed to find the mole who was giving them up. Our best analysts poring over data for years looking for the guy, and they could never quite find him. Guess who was put in charge of the task force? He was smarter than all of us. Actually, I can live with that part. It's the idea that my entire career has been a waste of time, that's the part I hate. Everything I've done since I got to this office, everything we've all been paid to do, he was undoing it. We all coulda just stayed home. " - and the person who previously led that task force ….. ROBERT HANSSEN. Yep .. another "now what" moment ..
okay paul olenski. without nuclear reset, isis by country, was defeated. he was a wrong rookie, as cia rookies often are, it could be solved without the ultimate. not as fast as young people want, but as completely without international incident. you must understand this.
without nuclear reset, isis by country, was defeated. he was a wrong rookie, as cia rookies often are, it could be solved without the ultimate. not as fast as young people want, but as completely without international incident. you must understand this.
im just watching this for the first time and today i got to the finale of Season 6. not happy is an understatement. i am enraged right now. i cannot understand why they would create such a great character, and then put him through hell again and again, just to eventually kill him off.
without nuclear reset, isis by country, was defeated. he was a wrong rookie, as cia rookies often are, it could be solved without the ultimate. not as fast as young people want, but as completely without international incident. you must understand this.
redmanticore ISIS isn’t defeated. Yeah, they have lost most of their territory and and their leader was killed. But the ideology survives. Every time we kill a terrorist two other appear. It’s in their culture.
All you would do is create more terrorists. Lot of other ‘stans around Afghanistan that would radicalize watching America murder an entire country. The entire world community would turn on us, and we would have less allies and influence than we do now. Stupid plan.
Quite a while ago, I think it was right around when Homeland wrapped, Alex Gansa did an interview, where he specifically mentioned this scene, and stressed that it was wildly misinterpreted. It's easily googleable. The idea of the scene was to show Quinn traumatised by the off-the-grid black ops in Syria, and not in any way as a serious comment on counter-terrorism warfare.
The desdain in his attitude when he walks out of the room is amazing, he even looks the other way. Of course this is just a TV show but the level of moronic high level political decisions like the last one on Afghanistan, prove that this kind of people do exist and make decisions without listening the people that do know what they are talking about.
i think there was nothing moronic about afghanistan war, the people in power are so leagues above your level of intelligence, wisdom and knowledge, mr. random youtube commenter. you think you can run a war campaign you'd cry and give up after 1 day just thinking about all the people you killed. they knew it would be ultimately pointless, its a theater of war
Everything he said is true. Islam needs to be restructured to fit in with the modern, civilised way of living. Catholicism was and you rarely hear of extremists going around killing people.
@@johnude4163 but not as smart as Yevgeny. I don’t think Quinn would last in front of Yevgeny. He couldn’t handle a few ISIS mercenaries. What chance do you think he’d have against someone as good as Yevgeny. The guy grew up in a battlefield.
@DarthV88 Quinn shot five of haqanis men at the same time, took down two armed military guards easily, yevgeny isn't as skilled as Quinn, he can't do that, Quinn would smoke him easily, yevgeny isn't a fighter, he used his men to get max, if it's Quinn he would go gun's blazing on haqanis son, yevgeny is smart but can't really do shit when it comes to the battlefield.
@@HemanParkFilms Yes he died in season 6, but when he left a letter in season 4 I suspected sooner or later he will die anyway, if you haven’t noticed yet these idiot writers always kill the most interesting characters in this show and unfortunately Quinn was not the lead character. For whatever reason, the writers were not interested in Quinn, so they lost half the audience.
@@HemanParkFilms I think they had to keep Quinn to the end, the last two seasons was empty without him and the lead character was an absolute bitch so it was no longer interesting.
I am not a Muslim but have read Quran out of curiosity. I haven’t found it any more violent than the New Testament. There is not a single mention of beheading and stoning. The issue is the interpretation not the text itself. Islam hasn’t gone through the process of reformation that Christianity did.
@@novelaviator No need to get stupidly confrontational just because you are behind a keyboard and there is no onus to remain civil. I read hadiths as well. True they are insane lol. It’s funny because most of the hadiths describe local Arabian and tribal practices (stoning was a Jewish practice) but have been incorporated into Shariah by the modern crazies. The Islamic empire beyond Arabia never had these practices. Shows how local they were until Saudi Wahabis in the 20th century started promulgating them and this new Shariah became the fashion.
doubt it, he made millions keeping the wars going, wiping everyone out would fix the area for some time but that would never happen. Politics and loss of government tax dollars
That's the solution to the gangrene calls Islamism right there! Gospel truth through the voice of Peter Quinn. I initially hated his character but at the end I felt bad when his character ceased!
I haven't watch Homeland after season 3, but i can already say that his conclusion of bombing Raqqa to the ground is so stupid because it clearly shows how little he valued lives that are not American. Let's say that the bombing of Raqqa was an allegory of bombing every single major city in all muslim-majority countries in the attempt to deradicalized them, he doesn't realized that he only made more radicalized Muslims and making his job even harder.
A question, are you really that stupid or do you play stupid so well? He used the attack on Raqqa to show the inconclusiveness of the discussion not in reality. Some people, regardless of their level of understanding, have a strange fondness for talking nonsense in making stupid comments.
without nuclear reset, isis by country, was defeated. he was a wrong rookie, as cia rookies often are, it could be solved without the ultimate. not as fast as young people want, but as completely without international incident. you must understand this.
in the current world climate, it is difficult for people to understand. world problems don't have a quick fix. these are all long games riddled with mistakes but if you stay with the one you will get the results at the end.
What you are entirely missing that "IS" is not gone. They are simply not visible on a map anymore. The theology which enabled it still exists and resurfaces all the time.
