@@julianarbelaez3620 Watts per kilo? It's not that (pretty much anyone could hit 450w) - it's how long you can do it for that counts. 20 or 30 minutes isn't actually a real FTP effort - although I know a lot of people use it as an FTP test and ignore that you're supposed to keep a steady pace. In a KOM attempt you're looking at a red line effort deep into anaerobic at the end or on steep pitches. Two riders of equal weight and aerobic capacity - the one with better lactate threshold and/or anaerobic ability will win in an all out hill climb. Same goes for the one who can best shuttle lactate out of the blood after an all out effort. Not going near the doping discussion - but "just look at the watts [per kilo]" doesn't cover it when comparing two efforts.
@@SprayIgniteBoom you’re super smart - you can tell a lot about me! Wow! I notice you haven’t disagreed with anything I said specifically. I do know that a lot of people cheat. Sounds like you probably do too 👍 Good luck to you.
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You have a strong argument and strong point. And in response to my last comment. The guy that I’m on a race team with that’s in his 40s best 20min power i could find was 5.8w/kg and that was last year. He races on a NRS team along with our local team. I’m not going to be naming him as I want to keep his privacy and he wouldn’t liked to be mentioned in this way.
5.8 is WAY less than 6.5 or 6.8. It is about 70w for a 70kg rider. Think how MASSIVE difference that is. Not to mention the guy you mention is probably doping with legal or illegal stuff. Lets not be naive. SO easy to take shit and not get caught. Especially in a Australia lol.
Durianrider Cycling Tips Yeah your to totally right about the watt per kg, big difference but I know for sure that the bloke is not doping. I know what u mean there is so much doping in the masters cat as u know. This year my teammate was doing a 200km master cat race and he was in a break. They had like a 5 min gap from the peloton and this bloke solo bridged and attacked the break with 80k still to go and put a 10min gap in. But my teammate his power drops a little bit each year and his struggles to set prs. His best times are from a few years ago. If he was doping would he be at least maintaining his power?
Ummm....really? REALLY? what the FUCK are your ‘watts/kg’? Just reading your comment here I can tell you really don’t have any deep knowledge of physiology, competitive sport training, or life in general. I’ve been to war (real bullets with real consequences) quite a few times and know what it takes to ACTUALLY win. (any means necessary). Pro athletes across the board understand that which is why they have/do accept laboratory 🧪 help. Sports are just a game with high rewards. Hard work and dedication sure, but let’s cut the shit. Pro athletes take either legal aides, slightly illegal aides, fully illegal or they get replaced. Please stop 🛑 spreading your ‘naivety’. Live freely but stop 🛑 spreading naivety. Thank you
ferrari said its all about the blood. if a guy like ash beech can bring his crit up to 52 with low tss high intensity, spirulina/b12/iron shots maybe phil is doing something similar. hard to believe that a ftp equaling the hour record holder could be natty tho??
I'm 56 yrs old, 6 feet tall, 140 lbs and my best 1 min power is 433 watts. It seems possible that an ex pro could do that for 20 minutes. I train 8 to 10 hours a week. A pro trains 4 times that? Just saying, not hating.
@@geg_otmopo3 hes just naturally gifted. Just like greg lemond. When you say your clean and you have a clean tattoo to boot, your 100% natty, without question. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves for casting a shadow on what is a beam of light in the world of cycling!
Lance actually mentioned durian rider on his podcast as the only reliable source of cycling information , after a crash in the giro but definite mention , so yes durian is on lances radar
I did some investigation into CookieMonster. His wattage seems superior then in the past because Phil has the time to rest before his hill assaults this the high wattage. DurianRider I do have a question for you....how can Phil Dope if he’s planning endeavors like the Olympics?
So everyone who wins gold at the olympics or goes to the olympics is CLEAN? xD What next Nove frames DONT come from alibaba seller Lightcarbon.com Phil saying 'im just more rested is the same as Lance saying 'I only race the TDF so Im fresh enough to do really well in it...' Phil uses the same lines Lance does lol. Both their careers ended in Adelaide and they both did doper watts and claimed clean. Lance went to the Olympics though and Phil never would. His rape jokes in his book would prevent that. Media would have a field day.
Ummm....really? REALLY? what the FUCK are your ‘watts/kg’? Just reading your comment here I can tell you really don’t have any deep knowledge of physiology, competitive sport training, or life in general. I’ve been to war (real bullets with real consequences) quite a few times and know what it takes to ACTUALLY win. (any means necessary). Pro athletes across the board understand that which is why they have/do accept laboratory 🧪 help. Sports are just a game with high rewards. Hard work and dedication sure, but let’s cut the shit. Pro athletes take either legal aides, slightly illegal aides, fully illegal or they get replaced. Please stop 🛑 spreading your ‘naivety’. Live freely but stop 🛑 spreading naivety. Thank you
Also...OLYMPIANS...clean??? WTF? The Olympics are the proving grounds for the cutting edge tech that NO ONE knows of until AT LEAST 4-5yrs later...seriously...genetics/training only get you so far. I have lots of respect for the athletes...but I know they’re not natty.
DR knows much more about watts/kilos, etc. and he seems to present an interesting case that Phil is on the gear. I mean, who was it--Damiano Cunego?-- who came out of nowhere to win the Giro in the early aughts. Then showed up with a fucking CLEAN tattoo. Sorry bro, anyone who knows anything about cycling is not going to look at a Giro winner's tattoo and scratch their head thinking they had this guy wrong all along. Another fascinating deflection technique is to say what you're doing is all for charity. It is a remarkably strong shield to hide behind when questions arise. That said, I find the whole Gaimon project odd, drugs or no. I mean, what's the appeal? I would find the project much more interesting if he cut the bullshit and rode up massive climbs totally clean. The compare/contrast would be way more interesting than some mutant riding up a hill at motorbike speeds. I honestly don't think the average Joe who happens upon his channel would be inspired enough to donate to his cause when a total newbie would not notice the difference in speeds between a doper and someone who is clean.
Attack is the best form of defence My best time is 400 watts for 16 minutes I’ve just turned 50 this year I ride about 180 miles a week & don’t eat any meat or dairy don’t drink get about 8 hours sleep a night & I’m 80kg & don’t take drugs that’s the best I can get out of my engine
I was a short track speed skater , much harder on legs much greater loads & on blades, 20' radius bends at 20+ mph massive loading , ok not for so long , but I look at cyclists legs phil gaimon posted a pic , dont look good, wiggins too & froomes , you could do an awful lot more with our doping , which is retarding sport , I mean why do sportsmen take advice from people who don't do the sport? True advances should be coming from understanding of human mechanics , not chemicals , bike gearing idls fetishised over , legs/arms are levers , hips are fulcrums , no one works on this . So I do .
Glad to hear it!!! We both KNOW...FROOME, De Gant and others with SIMILAR body types putting down EXTENDED POWER...is not natural only. Thanks for being a honest person.
I was trolling in that first part with Froome. You really think a big pro like that would comment about a WT flea like cookie man? Cookie talks about how 'corrupt' the WT is yet he travels from WT race to race to promote himself and parasite off their hard work. #hypocrite
"Drug tests are easy to pass" Suppose Phil takes a blood test and the results come back " Clean" what would it prove To You? Be Happy, Keep getting your own KOM's !
WADA doesnt use CIR tests or certain other tests first up because they don't really want to catch dopers. It is more about catching a few small fry but never any big names at their peak. If they did CIR first up and removed testosterone TUE then 99% of the UFC would get popped lol.
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LOOK AT THE WATTS PER KG HE HAS DONE AND TELL ME THAT IS CLEAN LOL. Don't be so naive boy. Name ONE pro rider who is doing those watts per kg and isnt connected to Lance Armstrong at some level. Tommy D is cookies good mate remember...
Ummm....really? REALLY? what the FUCK are your ‘watts/kg’? Just reading your comment here I can tell you really don’t have any deep knowledge of physiology, competitive sport training, or life in general. I’ve been to war (real bullets with real consequences) quite a few times and know what it takes to ACTUALLY win. (any means necessary). Pro athletes across the board understand that which is why they have/do accept laboratory 🧪 help. Sports are just a game with high rewards. Hard work and dedication sure, but let’s cut the shit. Pro athletes take either legal aides, slightly illegal aides, fully illegal or they get replaced. Please stop 🛑 spreading your ‘naivety’. Live freely but stop 🛑 spreading naivety. Thank you
Rocco's Vegan Life All that does is keep you skinny & make you lose weight fast. Yeah it’s banned over a certain limit but it’s not exactly performance enhancing EPO or Steroids.
@@adammillsindustries. It's a steroid, and has been proven to increase lean mass and burn fat at the same time. Salbutamol is a weaker/safer alternative, also an anabolic
Rocco's Vegan Life Salbutamol is pretty much Clen. It doesn’t make you breathe better. I’ve had asthma since childhood & my blue Salbutamol puffer does fuck all to help me breathe better than normal.
I saw Gaimon ride the Norton Summit KOM. I think he actually admitted to doping. He says it in a SUBTLE way in his videos when he says when he was a pro he raced through cities and had dinner at hotels. Now he's retired he's "DOING IT RIGHT". He's admitting doping by saying "Doing it right". You don't have to be a hematologist to figure out that KOMs set by guys racing are being smashed by Gaimon who does it on a non race day effort. His efforts are not done on bread and water alone. I suspect PEDs.
You mention that testosterone isn't a great performance enhancer but wasn't it testosterone that Floyd Landis was busted for, after that insane day he had on the bike in the 2006 tour when he came back to win it?
He tested positive because there was exogenous testosterone in the blood from the blood bag he clearly used. Rubbing a bit of T gel on your inner thigh DOESNT do anything like that. That is EPO/blood doping watts. Otherwise bodybuilders would be smashing everyone on the flat or fast climbs.
@@DurianriderCyclingTips thanks for the reply. I understand the benefits of EPO, I was just wondering why it was testosterone that Landis got in trouble for. If I recall correctly it was the ratio of epitestosterone to testosterone that the tests revealed were outside the allowable limits. Sounds like your'e saying that the fact that he had an incredible day on the bike, and the abnormal testosterone results shown by the tests after that stage were somewhat unrelated. His amazing performance was due to other illegal substances. Is that a fair statement?
He got a bag of blood. Whose blood it was we don't know. ALL the GC big guns would use a little bit of T to aid in day to day recovery. Not too much though because T adds weight OVERNIGHT. If you gain extra 2kg of fluid over night you didnt need then BYE BYE watts per kg.
yeh it’s a team sport for sure I just hope someone can break ineos’ stranglehold I don’t want to hear another ‘ ineos have nullified another attack’ teams need to get organised to create tactics to undermine them or do you think they have a little arrangement with some teams like csc bjarne and lance style?
