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Philip Larkin - Toads Revisited - Analysis. Poetry Lecture by Dr. Andrew Barker 

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TOADS REVISITED. Philip Larkin's sequel to "Toads", is a wonderful poem in its own right and finds the poet walking around a park on a sunny day, contemplating the fact that the "toad work", he had analyzed in the previous poem, has been avoided for at least an afternoon. Brilliantly evocative of the increasing allure of middle class trappings as we age, "Toads Revisited" concludes with some of Larkin's most depressing imagery as he accepts and even appreciates the job he has previously despised.
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@jackgalmitz
@jackgalmitz 5 месяцев назад
Nicely done! It is a pleasure to hear a professor explain a poem without getting overly technical or philosophical and yet shed perfect light on the poem. The poem is quite powerful, sad, excellently depicting an unsatisfying life and as morbid as my own life.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 5 месяцев назад
Many thanks. The older I get, the more I find how right Larkin could be.
@bellow5458
@bellow5458 2 года назад
You make it fun learning poetry. I hope I can make reading poetry a hobby by watching your videos even though English isn’t my first language. It’s kind of fun now.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 2 года назад
Thank you for your kind words. That's very flattering to hear.
@josephharley9448
@josephharley9448 3 года назад
Amazing insight into the Irish psyche. Clear and crisp. Andrew barker has a gift for teaching.
@cavewebster5881
@cavewebster5881 6 лет назад
Why do not more people like these videos? They are awesome! Many thanks :)
@OrientOccidentPoetry
@OrientOccidentPoetry 10 лет назад
A really clear and interesting discussion. Fresh delivery, good explanation, useful analysis. Great insights for students of literature.
@DucksDeLucks
@DucksDeLucks 3 года назад
one category L leaves out = men enjoying the park with girlfriends
@thevagabondification
@thevagabondification 6 лет назад
Wonderful! This is my new favorite youtube channel. Thank you for these excellent videos.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 6 лет назад
Many thanks. You're very welcome.
@milkbeforecereal9257
@milkbeforecereal9257 4 года назад
thank you very much
@renurabin
@renurabin 7 лет назад
Thank you Dr. Andrew!
@anjalaajayan4660
@anjalaajayan4660 3 года назад
Detailed and thorough explanation. Extremely helpful. Thankyou.
@squirrel5429
@squirrel5429 6 лет назад
I'm warming to Dr. Barker. He's rather hunky.
@vishalnanda7387
@vishalnanda7387 6 лет назад
I love your lectures, warts and all. Sorry if I sound like a toady.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 6 лет назад
Best one yet. I have no doubt you are a prince among men. In disguise.
@rocioromero7946
@rocioromero7946 3 года назад
Thank you very much. This analysis helps me understand better the general tone of some of Larkin's poems as well as organise the analysis. The lecture was incredibly useful.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 3 года назад
Glad to help.
@wailinglaw6702
@wailinglaw6702 7 лет назад
The main message of the poem is that we have a distorted opinion of unemployment.The opening stanza suggests that not working is complete.However, the first word of the following stanza is 'blurred' which suggests that this notion is delusional. Alternatively it is the idea of the narrator at work, thinking of the faint enticements of infinite spare time. The half rhyme between; 'noises and nurses' suggests the desire is whole but it is actually only half of what we dream of. In my opinion, the reader must have read Toads in order to fully understand this follow up poem. He seems to have realized that without work whilst living off "windfalls and tinned sardines" you will not get through life happily however you will walk down "cemetery road" alone. This poem is a much more mature approach towards the ideas surrounding work and Larkin seems to have realized, without work what else will aid us to our final chapter, so to speak.
@selectforintellect6092
@selectforintellect6092 3 года назад
Wonderful explanation. Thanks a lot.
@bonnie2838
@bonnie2838 7 лет назад
In Toads, we can see that Larkin hopes that he is able to discard his security from his job and pursue what he wants and is forbidden to do so by his conscience. He celebrates middle class people’s lives at the same time criticises them. There is no solution or much improvements in his working life, his dissatisfaction remains unresolved but manages to find an extra reason to stick to his routine life. His dreams and ideals are shattered by the reality, this struggling mentality or the toads is what commonly shared and understood among middle class people at the the time. While reading Toads Revisited, it is hard to neglect his presence within the poem for his close observations towards middle-class people. The way he describes the middle class people is more like a tourist who is in the park for the first time, finding the ordinary scene somewhat distinct. He does not seem to involve in the middle-class lives and differentiate himself from people who lost their working abilities, however, he himself is just a normal middle class man who is living with nothing but work.
@kareenabarwal4204
@kareenabarwal4204 2 года назад
Thank you so much for such great insight! your explanation has helped me a lot. RESPECT!!
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 2 года назад
Glad to have helped.
@twihyperbole
@twihyperbole 8 лет назад
I thought the black-stockinged nurses meant nannies, given that this is a production piece of the 60s.
@pengjienchen6771
@pengjienchen6771 9 лет назад
Somebody please help me here. The lines, "When the lights come on at four At the end of the coming year?" Dr Barker mentioned something about New Year resolutions. I can't figure how this relate to the verses. Light don't come out at four? - am or pm? Why there is a question about "coming year." Thanks in advance. I studied in Hull University in 1986. I missed seeing Larkin by one year, I think
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 9 лет назад
pengjien chen Hi Pengjien. The lights are streetlights coming on in the evening. It really does get dark in England that early. Ah, you've been to Hull. I'll check the bit on New Year's Resolutions and get back to you. By the way, I suspect Larkin might have chosen four over, five or say three thirty, because it sound better in the line. The 'F,' in 'four' goes nicely with the 'F' in 'of' but the 'R' in 'four' goes better with the 'R' in 'year' than the 'I'VE' in 'five' would. It's a small point but poems are made up of little decisions like this this. The O in four is a duller sound than the I in five. Of course four o clock may have been the time the light went on in december in Hull in the latter half of the 19th century but I like to think of Larkin paying attention to small details like that.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 9 лет назад
pengjien chen While I might accept an accusation of over-analysis here, we may ask why Larkin selects the end of the year to be the day when he makes the decision to acknowledge the type of man he is. As we normally make, or pretend to make, life changing decisions at that time (New Year's Resolutions) it seems relevant that this is the time he makes one too, his resolution being, to acquiesce to accepting who he is. Hope that helps.
@nozecone
@nozecone 9 лет назад
mycroftlectures And, of course, the end of the year signals the passing of time, the shortening of time one has left. "It's the end of another year; I'm that much closer to the cemetery; not enough time to change anything now; I may as well accept the way I am and the way the world is ... '
@nozecone
@nozecone 9 лет назад
The "old toad" brings to my mind "Toad of Toad Hall" - in his latter years, slowed down. Exasperating, but lovable. The toads of "Toads" were monsters; the toad of "Toads Revisited" has mellowed into a cartoonish companion.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 9 лет назад
nozecone Great observation that. I see exactly what you mean.
@TheDisexists
@TheDisexists 10 лет назад
Good lecture. Some points and questions raised by the poem for me were: 1) The line, "Being one of the men / You meet of an afternoon," recalls Prufrock. 2) These toad poems seem quite comic. You mention comedy in your explanation of perfect rhyme. Is there any chance the comic element pushes the poem over into irony? Is he channeling a voice here? 3) The word "lobelias" seems to refer back to the first toad poem with its L words, especially "loblolly boys". 4) The "characters in long coats / deep in litter baskets" - that choice of word 'characters' actually seems to signal a small amount of respect.
@hannahbae4967
@hannahbae4967 7 лет назад
The previous 'Toads' seemed like the poet was confused and unsettled about his own work. However, the persona in 'Toads Revisited' seems more secure and accepted his reality. He avoids the toad that he hated taking a day off and spends his time in the park like the folks that he talked about in the poem 'Toad' doing nothing, but he says that the place isn't for him. 'They don't end as paupers, they seem to like it, and no one actually starves' all changes to 'think of being them!'. He reveals negative perception or even hostility of those kind of life style/people who seem like do not put any effort to toad work. Walking around the park and watching those people who dodge toad work and being weak and stupid to strive working in his perspective, he realizes and feels that he doesn't want to end up living like them. Even if he didn't like the toad work that squats on his life, he finally admits in the final stanza that he cannot live without working, probably his vocation. It was funny to see how his perception changes but since the gap between two poems is 9 years, I guess the second poem was written after Philip gained somewhat higher position on his job and got more stabilized. Even if he once disliked his work but he had to admit the fact that the toad was like his destiny that he could do well and it even supported him in various ways throughout his life.
@user-vv9ii9tt1i
@user-vv9ii9tt1i 7 лет назад
In the ‘Toads’, he tried to escape from ‘Toads’, but after nine years, in the'Toads Revisited' , he still complains about his work, this situation makes me so interesting. Actually I think he could make some difference or he has the ability to change this situation, but he did not. I think nine years could change a lot of things, he could have enough funds to turn the occupation, he could tender his resignation, but he didn’t. so why he still insists on this occupation. I think in nine years, he realized: he has time to write poetry, he has time to enjoy the sunshine in the park, he has time to observe others. He realized his work are much easier, and he was more fortunate than others. Eventually ‘toads’ won, and he has resigned himself to the fact.
@kwunnamtang
@kwunnamtang 7 лет назад
After reading this, I still do not know what would suit him then. After 9 years after "Toads", he was still complaining about his work. But when he got a day's rest from his work, he was complaining about the rest he could get from his "boring and hating" job. What did he really want then? In the end, we knew that he preferred to have a work rather than none but that is just reality and he did not want that but he had to do it. But what did he want? I think that this was the 2nd "toad" in himself was still actively affecting him. His character flaw still affected him. He still looked down on people which he did not want to be associated with the people that lingered in the park. So for me, when he said "Give me your arm, old toad", it was not him (the poet) talking but the 2nd "toad" in his heart. The use of imageries are good in both poems, but here it was somehwhat comical which these are what we associate as the pople in the park. But I have a question. Did he work until his death in this job? If it was, it was a really sad one because he did worked until his death in this job as suggested in the final stanza, which it also meant that the toads won. The toad (work) crushed his life and the toad (character flaw) was afraid to leave this job.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 7 лет назад
Yes the Toads won.
@lamvivian7202
@lamvivian7202 7 лет назад
Larkin pretty much sees himself above all and looks down on everyone even though he is as stuck as everyone else. Isn't he basically in the park escaping work just like everyone else? And for me, I think it's not the matter of preference between a life with and without work, but more of a resignation that this is the only way, as work is the only company he has and always will have. There's a lot of connotation of loneliness and miserable emotions surrounding the park, which is supposedly to be a place for gathering and fun. Yet all he could see were people having monotonous life, with no friends. The phrase "empty chairs" is actually pretty interesting as it indicates there were once friends, so maybe he is suggesting the only company that will always stick with me is the old toad, and I might as well enjoy the company, at least it won't leave him.
@yungms2058
@yungms2058 7 лет назад
In the ‘Toads Revisit’, his perception of work and attitude to work does undergo a subtle change when compared to that of nine years ago. However, in fact he still does not like his job and cannot find any ways to escape from the exterior and interior toads. He cannot imagine being one of those ‘men’ who are old and have nothing to do. He just don’t want to be live like them, just doing nothing and wasting all the rest of time. Put it in another way, he realizes that he does not willing to end up living like those people in the garden. At that moment, he might think that kind of living style is much more awful and unacceptable than having a ‘boring job’. He just realize how awful it is if one just cannot find anything to do. The life of doing nothing will be horrible and miserable. He might prefer to continue to do his work rather than be one of the people in the park. He in the end realizes that he have to work until he died and accept this kind of cruel fact. And he might begin to accept that a life which involved a great deal of hard works and the exterior or interior toad which is squatting all over his life is not bad at all and it is bearable.
@venuschan1485
@venuschan1485 7 лет назад
I see the internal toad - ‘something sufficiently toad-like/ squats in me’ as the false belief that he and so many of his working class readers share: that through honest work one could realise one’s dreams of having ‘the fame, the girl, and the money.’ And I think in the poem Larkin is trying to make out a case for those people such as himself (as a librarian) who work very hard to get by against those who ‘live on their wits’ and those who ‘live up lanes.’ In the poem Larkin describes work as toad - ‘the toad work’ - that is not only unattractive, but also barbaric and base like ‘the brute.’ It has made life miserable for him because he has to work - ‘soil’ - ‘six days of the week.’ If work is so poisonous, why doesn’t he simply resign his job and find another one like those, say lecturers, who ‘live on their wits’? Surely he believes he’s in possession of such wit, as evidenced by his saying that ‘can’t I use my wit as a pitchfork/ And drive the brute off?’ Or why can’t he be one of those homeless people who ‘live up lanes.’ As he says, ‘they seem to like it’ and ‘no one actually starves.’ For me, what’s holding Larkin back are his hopes and aspirations, which, he knows ‘all too well’, can only be realised through hard work. And it is this internal toad, this deeply held belief, that stops Larkin from using his wit as a shortcut to ‘blarney’ his way of ‘getting the fame and the girl and the money.’ Larkin doesn’t want a life like those living on their wits because they are essentially losers - ‘losels’ - and they wouldn’t end up having the money as he wishes - even though ‘they don’t end as paupers.’ And surely he wouldn’t want to be a homeless person because he wants more than subsistent living - he wants a decent life with ‘the fame and the girl and the money.’ Whether hard work can indeed make the ‘dreams’ come true is debatable; but I think it is a belief that many, who have jobs that they don’t see as particularly inspiring, hold on to so that they can carry on with their lives - even if they know somehow it may not be true. After all, what is left of their work if they abandon this belief? And this dilemma is best explained with the last two lines of the poem: ‘when you have both/ it’s hard to lose either.’ If Toads is about what to become, then Toads Revisited is about what not to become. In Toads Larkin doesn’t deny the fact that those living on their wits and living up lanes aren’t doing so bad, as they ‘don’t end as paupers,’ ‘they seem to like it,’ and ‘no one actually starves’; it’s just that his life is potentially better. However, in Toads Revisited, he quite openly attacks those who he thinks don’t work as hard as he does, accusing them of ‘dodging the toad work’ and calling them as being ‘weak’, ‘stupid’ and ‘failures.’ His accusations of and self-distancing with the elderly, the patients, the homeless etc. (‘think of being them!’), coupled with his calling his work ‘old toad’, has reflected a change in his attitude towards work: It’s better work than not work, even though it may lead not to any sort of success - ‘the fame and the girl and the money’ - but death ‘down Cemetery Road.’ Both poems are self-consolatory in nature I should think; but if Toads shows any sign of false hope in Larkin, any such hope has long gone in the years leading up to his writing Toads Revisited, in which we can only see Larkin’s somehow resigned acceptance to his toad work. In any case, I think it’s rather unfair that Larkin should look down upon people just because they are leading a life different from his. Say he criticises lecturers for living on their wits when I am sure it takes more than wit for those lecturers to do their job properly; and he also accuses the old and the sick and the homeless of being weak and stupid when their conditions very often are beyond their total control.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 7 лет назад
Well written and argued. A point I would make regarding the last paragraph though is to do with persona and truth telling. I think both of these may be called in to defend Larkin from your accusations, well founded though they are. Two questions I might ask are, 1. Is this Larkin speaking as himself or in the persona of someone who thinks very like himself? 2. When we write things that we know make us sound unpleasant are we not able to use the defense of something like "this is what I honestly felt at the time"? I don't know the answers to those questions but raise them anyway. Obviously, Larkin knows that the stupid and weak comments are going to make him few friends.
@liliamli
@liliamli 7 лет назад
I personally do not think Larkin loved his job. I think he just did not want to be one of those people he saw in the park. It is apparent that his attitude towards his job had changed from his first writing of Toads to Toads Revisited, while he still did his job because of money, as an obligation to survive. Seeing those people in park just provided Larkin with one more reason not to give up his job because he did not want to be like them, he did not want to be a useless person. Yet I do not really agree that Larkin loved his job after 9 years.
@user-zj5xm9dt8c
@user-zj5xm9dt8c 3 года назад
It's too difficult.
@puikiniu5633
@puikiniu5633 7 лет назад
I have commented on 'Toads' that I don't agree with his pessimistic thoughts on his job because he could earn money from that and he could find his own interests and purpose of life apart from his boring work. But after reading this poem, I feel sympathetic for him, because he compares the things that even worse than his work to attempt to make his job a nice thing. I think he sees himself having this boring job is a failure, because he failed to find a new interesting job for himself due to his inner weaknesses. To me, comparing to the people he considered in the 'Toads Revisited' who are being too stupid to find a job, Larkin is as stupid as them because he is a guy who cannot find a 'better job' and rethink his failures again and again, like other people he saw sitting at the park and thinking of their past. Actually, he is also that kind of failed person. The only difference between them is that he has a job, others in the park didn't, except the nurses mentioned a lot the first stanza. Therefore, I think he is comparing to those jobless people to make himself feeling contented at the outside, but inside they are pretty much the same. It is very sad for him trying to find boost his courage comparing with people who had nothing.
@hoiyanchan6685
@hoiyanchan6685 7 лет назад
Previously in “Toad”, I think the persona is a bit cynical and he has his pride to look down on people who live without purpose. Here, in “Toad Revisited”, his pride has gone away and he is scared of becoming the kind of people who is miserable because they do not have the ability to work. I think one of the differences between “Toad” and “Toad Revisited” is that he portrays people who live without purpose in a very different way. In “Toad”, those people who live in the street seem quite satisfied with their life even they are homeless and eat cheap food. However, in “Toad Revisited”, those jobless people are lonely and miserable because they lost the ability to work and they do not have a place they belong to. His fear of leaving his job is much stronger than 9 years ago which reflects in the way he sees jobless people.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 4 года назад
Lifewriting 2020.
@6b26
@6b26 4 года назад
ENG3385 Lifewriting Liu Xu Fen Hugo (4024626) If we assume, for the purposes of lifewriting analysis, the narrator of these poems to be Larkin himself and not a persona, the conclusion he comes to is that although he saw his working routine as a burden, he could not afford to lose it since he feared to appear useless. In ‘Toads’, Larkin claims that losing a job may not be as bad as originally thought, given that none of them ‘actually starves’ according to him. By ‘Toads Revisited’, Larkin has a change in attitude on this, wanting to hold on to his job almost desperately by asking for his ‘in-tray’ and ‘loaf-haired secretary’. He comes to this realization after he observed the worn out and broken people in the park, who Larkin instinctively look down on. He is deeply terrified to become one of these people, an outcome of not having a job that is much dire than just eating ‘windfalls and tinned sardines’. In essence, Larkin is admitting he was wrong, ultimately preferring the toad to be on his back and holding him, rather than leaving. Admitting to a mistake he thinks he made nine years ago as a famous poet certainly requires bravery. In ‘Toads’, Larkin says he was mentally too weak to ‘drive the brute off’, yet one can see from ‘Toads Revisited’ that he is brave enough to acknowledge and explain his revelation, serving somewhat as a rebuttal against what he thought in 1955. While in certain perspectives may see him being cowardly, particularly him not daring to resign and deciding to embrace the toad, he is brave enough to highlight these hardships. It takes courage to admit weakness, something he indeed shows in the latter stanzas of ‘Toads’. He braveness is proven by him willing to put his revelations, concerns and fears in words and on paper.
@herachan237
@herachan237 4 года назад
ENG3385-1 Toad revisited Hera, Chan Pui Ki (4064389) If we assume, for the purposes of Lifewriting analysis, the narrator of these poems to be Larkin himself and not a persona, then he becomes a more conformist person even though he used to hate work so much. First, "Toads" is about the speaker’s dissatisfaction of his work and even life. For example, in the second stanza, the toad is described as an unpleasant “sickening poison”. Also, a toad is often related to ugliness. We can see that Larkin creates a negative image of toad work here. Second, the poem is about the difficulties of searching for freedom and nonconformity. For instance, Lakin believes that his work is too heavy yet the rewards are not promising enough as described in the line “Just for paying a few bills! That's out of proportion.” The toad work prevents him from getting freedom and the things he wants, including reputation, wealth, and even women because the toad is squatting on him and actually inside him, such as his character weakness of timidity to quit jobs. The nowadays concept of “rat race” can be applied here since “rat race" equates humans to rats attempting to earn some cheese, in vain. It also implies an endless, self-defeating, or pointless pursuit, like materialistic pursuit. I would say Lakin is a nonconformist in society since he dislikes the work routine of his life, yet he fears to quit his job since he thinks those jobless people who live in the lane and eat “windfalls and tinned sardines” are extremely miserable. In the poem of “Toad revisited”, Lakin believes he is not relatable to the park wanderers, as in “Not a bad place to be. Yet it doesn't suit me,” since he perceives they are those who are not competent to get a “toad work” although he does not like the idea of working. However, Larkin appreciates his work finally, expressed as "give me my in-tray, / My loaf-haired secretary" since he sees working as an alternative to escape from the miserable street life and he conforms to his work finally. What arouses Larkin’s interest in working is the ultimate fear of being one of those people live in the lane and eat windfalls, thus I would say Lakin displays his self-indulgence in the second poem "Toads revisited" because he has never defeated his fear. Although Larkin starts viewing his job differently, he does not show his genuine affection to his job. In "Toads", Larkin fears of the suppressive work routine, then he has anxiety about losing his job and becoming soulless park wanderers like those “weak and stupid” unemployed people on the street in "Toads revisited". The genuine love of work is conceivably a passion and an unconditional commitment. Nevertheless, Larkin did not show his affection to his job, yet, he is afraid of losing his salaries and downgrading his living condition. Larkin’s motivation to work is ultimately driven by his fear of being poor and miserable. From the last two lines of “Toad revisited”, “Give me your arm, old toad; Help me down Cemetery Road. ” We can conclude that Larkin cannot find a way out of his toad work and gradually change his perception towards the conformist society by embracing his “toad work”.
@demikong
@demikong 4 года назад
Lifewriting Demi, Kong Yui Yan If we assume, for the purposes of Lifewriting analysis, the narrator of these poems to be Larkin himself and not a persona, the conclusion he makes is the inevitability of work in his life. In “Toads”, Larkin manifests his own antipathy with his heinous job, which “six days of the week it soils / with its sickening poison”. However, his weakness stops him from living a life like those “folks live up lanes” and quitting his job to opt for a vocation that gets him “the fame and the girl and the money”. He does not blame his weakness, but he can only bite the bullet with both his weakness and job. Whereas in “Toads Revisited”, Larkin’s weakness has not been mentioned. He gives his work, still heinous, recognition because he can never stand himself “being one of the men / you meet of an afternoon”, who cannot work due to their stupidity and proneness. Therefore, regardless of the perspectives, there is always the tenacity of work in Larkin’s life. I reckon Larkin is self-indulgent because he creates himself an illusion of being a victim. He tells us how much he suffers from work. But at the same time, he hides behind many excuses that are unsolvable only because of himself. When readers read “Toads”, which is published in “The Less Deceived” (1955), they will think that it must require Larkin tremendous bravery to blatantly admit his own flaw - weakness publicly. To look on the flip side, why doesn’t Larkin take this “bravery” to quit his despicable job? He merely uses the poem as an outlet and liberation to indulge himself in cowardice. Even after eight years, he is still victimising himself by showing his “in-tray” and “loaf-haired secretary”. If it is true that only weakness or the image of being a stupid man hinders his dream, then the problem lies in Larkin himself and he should be able to handle it as a talented grown man.
@Aisonic95
@Aisonic95 4 года назад
Aison Clark Laborte, ENG-3385 If we assume, for the purposes of Lifewriting analysis, the narrator of these poems to be Larkin himself and not a persona, it is concluded that as much as he hated his job, he had to end up accepting the unfortunate fact that he had to hold on to it due to his condition as a middle-class. I feel that the poems are the processes that the narrator had gone through. He started with self-indulgent self pity in Toads and ended with a brave revelation of his weakness and his defeat as he had gave in to the job he despised. 9 years later, the narrator returns with Toads Revisited and by that time, he seem to be “institutionalised” and accepted his cruel fate in continuing on with the job he despised. Although, tormented with his job, somehow he learnt to love it, similar to Winston to Big Brother in 1984. It was like a bittersweet moment when a person was too used to the torment that it somehow became part of them. It felt like the narrator and the toad are having an abusive relationship. The self-discovery from the poems seem to be a frustration. The narrator was able to point out and acknowledge his own weakness but did not do anything about it or, perhaps, it would be more appropriate to say he was not able to do anything about it. It may be embarrassing for one to admit one’s own weakness and problem, however, it should not be embarassing because not everyone is privileged to be able to persist and pursue the things they want to do because, in the end, some of us will need to accept and submit to the fact that not everyone gets to do the things they love. If lucky enough, we may end up loving the things we hated in the first place. But another problem may arise. If given a chance to pursue true happiness, somehow that other “toad” will stop us from doing so as we have become too attached. We may be able to identify our problem but sometimes something inside us would hinder us from coping with it. We would feel regret which would be another “squat” in our lives. We would be bringing another toad into our graves.
@swkamkamsw
@swkamkamsw 4 года назад
If we assume, for the purposes of lifewriting analysis, the narrator of these poems to be Larkin himself and not a persona, the conclusion he makes about himself is his inseparable relationship with his boring work. In “Toads”, Larkin describes his work as a toad, which saps him of energy, in that occupies most of his time. Although quitting his job will not starve him to death, with his timidity of character, Larkin does not have the nerve to do so. Suffice to say, Larkin’s inability to get rid of the toads is coupled with the hatred of his job and his character flaw. For me, Larkin is stuck in that the toads are already deep-rooted in him. In “Toads Revisited”, Larkin, still, hates his job, but he can ill-afford to lose it and, more likely, his value in the society. Seeing people wandering around the park, he can’t abide being one of them. Out of dignity or the urge of proving his importance, Larkin rather sticks at his monotonous job than dosses around like the people he sees in the park. At the end of the poem, Larkin even proposes to his work in that he will work at this job to his dying day. The difference after the nine-years growth notably highlighted a love-hate relationship between Larkin and his work. After reading these two poems, I admire Larkin for his courage to reveal his change of heart towards his job. One might think Larkin compromising as an act of cowardice, but, for me, it takes not only resolve but tolerance. It is not simply about giving up on dreams, it also requires sacrifice for the continuous dreary work until death. After nine years, knowing his impotence and fearing to be unemployed, Larkin finally jettisons the quixotic idea of quitting his job. Also, in the era which most, if not all, people pursue job security and stability, it is inevitable for him to seize the opportunity of a stable job. By openly expressing his feelings towards the crisis, which most middle-class people faces, Larkin is not ashamed to embrace his boring job. Kam Pui Lam, Kelly (4177708)
@charlespeterson3798
@charlespeterson3798 4 года назад
Larkin lacked the courage, appreciation and emotional depth to be a great poet. It´s always the same sundry amalgam of disappointment and boredom. No great loss, but he could have been a major poet like Cummings, had he possessed some very fundamental grace, though I usually avoid that particular word. I just became a worse writer just by my adjacency. I don´t think it was worth the candle. Good work anyway, Thanks.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 4 года назад
Many thanks. I suppose for those who rate Larkin's work, and I do number myself among them, the counter-argument to what you say would be that he uses that (undeniable) amalgamation of disappointment and boredom to create the type of poetry that address the realities of life as he saw it. Or even that his poetry deals with the amalgamation of disappointment and boredom that he saw as the condition of his time. I would certainly argue that among Larkin's works both "Aubade" and "Church Going" are major work by any standard, and while I equally don't like, distrust, the word grace, "Church Going" exhibits for me perhaps the clearest manifestation of it in literature. A serious house on serious earth it is In whose blent air all our compulsions meet Are recognisd and robed as destinies. And that much never can be obsolete Since someone will forever be surprising A hunger in himself to be more serious And gravitating with it to this ground Which he once heard was proper to grow wise in If only that so many dead lie round, I'd be lying if I said I don't think that's very very fine poetry.
@christopherbrookfield4785
@christopherbrookfield4785 4 года назад
Larkin, great writer or not, was an interesting character. Full of contradictions, paradoxes, as so many of us are. One could say that he, and his work, lacked emotional depth, and understanding, compassion for others. Yet, I think, one of the things people recognise, and respond to, is his basic, fundamental humanity. And he was quite liked by women, even though, perhaps, he may not of treated some of them all that well. Or, at least, perhaps taken them for granted. One could hardly think of him as a romantic. Yet, one poem concludes. I forget which. What remains of us is love. I think he just liked moaning. Was never fully satisfied with his life. Except, maybe, when he was considering the end of it.
@mycroftlectures
@mycroftlectures 3 года назад
@@christopherbrookfield4785 Yeah. No argument from me there, mate. "What will survive of us is love," is from An Arundel Tomb.
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