Philippines Wants New Jets to Counter China

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@jheyabines8035 23 дня назад

Philippine air force and the armed forces of the Philippines in general has 3 problems in its efforts of modernization 1.budget 2.its annoying procurement law 3. Lack of "true" support from its politicians

@MM22966 23 дня назад

4. Corruption.

@AllahDoesNotExist 22 дня назад

5. Manlets

@AllahDoesNotExist 22 дня назад

And pinoys voting for the most retarded politicians.

@ringring8938 22 дня назад

Why don't you buy some jets then. What's holding you except for the deep corruption your country suffers at the hands of the elites?😅

@devlin7575 22 дня назад

Agree with all four points … matches my own experience and that of ppl I know

@SA-xf1eb 23 дня назад

Griphen would be the most cost effective, but the F16 is the likely winner.

@HarshGupta-my5pk 23 дня назад

Brother it,s the money n financial capacity which decides what u can buy at max, not the preferential choice😊

@mikepette4422 23 дня назад

Its going to be as much about which missile/radar systems they can get their hands on than which Jets. As the truth is there are F-16's and then there are F-16's with really modern missiles and targeting radar to lock up Chinese jets in long BVR fights. The Chinese will have access to some of the best fastest missiles on the Planet courtesy of their ties with Russia.

@SVSky 23 дня назад

@@mikepette4422 Gripen carries meteor

@Philistine47 23 дня назад

How long is the waiting list for new-build Gripens, though?

@SA-xf1eb 23 дня назад

@Philistine47 about as long to build an F16, I would imagine.

@babypanda2924 23 дня назад

I agree with your observation. The F-16 is probably the most sensible option, given the Philippines' defense ties with the US. There are rumors that the US is willing to supply the PAF surplus F-16s while the PAF waits for its new-build F-16Vs.

@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko 23 дня назад

The problem is cost. Philippines can't even afford to buy 2nd hand refurbished F-16s, so buying F-16V which is the latest variant is out of the question even if there's surplus

@All2Meme 22 дня назад

The surplus F-16s would be a boon to the Philippines whatever they end up purchasing down the road. It would give the PAF valuable experience in operating sophisticated fighters while giving them some badly-needed muscle in case the mainland Chinese decide to get more aggressive sooner rather than later.

@donwyoming1936 22 дня назад

If Vietnam buys F-16s, I wouldn't be surprised the Philippines will, too. And vice versa

@tagagogon6308 22 дня назад

rumors?

@ringring8938 22 дня назад

Why don't you buy some jets then. What's holding you except for the deep corruption your country suffers at the hands of the elites?

@James-May 23 дня назад

Never thought Ed would make news of my country 😮

@shaider1982 23 дня назад

Same here

@ringring8938 22 дня назад

Why don't you buy some jets then. What's holding you expect for the deep corruption your country suffers at the hands of the elites? 😅

@SakiniCZ 23 дня назад

The Rafale is great and powerful, but extremely expensive for the Philippines. They will most probably have to settle with light fighters, most probably the F-16, although the Gripen should be a more usable option. Thai Gripens declassed Chinese J-11 in an exercise in long range combat, and the current Gripen NG is far better. And the Gripen is made for operations from shorter runways, it could be scattered through the many islands the Philippines constist of, in case of a Chinese attack - the F-16 needs much better bases. But I agree that the US influence will be a major factor.

@The_ZeroLine 23 дня назад

Yup, it’ll be the F-16, but the Gripen makes so much more sense in terms of their needs (can land almost anywhere, huge tolerance to FOD which is the exact opposite of the F-16, can be rearmed and refueled by a crew of 4 conscripts with ordinary hand tools and so on and so). The dispersion aspect is especially important. That and I’m sure they don’t have any existing military runways that are in pristine condition, which is what the F-16 requires.

@16jan1986 23 дня назад

Usa will never play fair therefore the gripen will never have a chance.....case in point Denmark

@user-kc1tf7zm3b 23 дня назад

The Rafale is pointless for the PAF, as it is for the JASDF, as both favour American weapon systems.

@SVSky 23 дня назад

AND the Gripen uses the same F404 motor that the T-50 does.

@SonsOfLorgar 23 дня назад

@@SVSky no it doesn't.

@PaulieLDP 22 дня назад

Hopefully the Philippines can get what they need to keep their people safe.

@JanHusso 17 дней назад

Buy SU 57 😂😂😂pilipinos

@silverianjannvs5315 17 дней назад

@@JanHussowhy not F-35?

@SemiLobster 23 дня назад

There is a chance that the Philippines might just order order more KAI FA-50s too if they want a budget option. While their current FA-50 fleet is limited in capabilities, the new Block 20 variant integrates much more weapons systems than the base model, particularly finally bringing AMRAAM compatibility to the aircraft.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b 23 дня назад

The FA-50 is just an interim light fighter only.

@SemiLobster 22 дня назад

@@user-kc1tf7zm3bFor sure, the FA-50 is a light fighter, but that is still the same weight class as the Gripen, JF-17 and Tejas, 'technically', but if the Philippines does cheap out on less expensive option, the FA-50 Block 20 would probably be the most straight forward with their existing FA-50 fleet.

@FirstDagger 23 дня назад

THA also is buying new Gripen E/F.

@Pheonixco 23 дня назад

Hindsight is 20/20, but expelling US forces seems short sighted regardless of tensions between the Phillipine Gov't and the US.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b 23 дня назад

Neither Japan, South Korea nor Australia would ever think of expelling American bases in their wildest dreams. Stupid decision.

@jyy9624 23 дня назад

This is logical but fails to take into account the ginormous scale of the two main military bases that the US handed over to the PI's after the Philippines senate refused to renew the leases. Subic and Clark generated so much domestic demand that they were effectively the governing authorities in those provinces. I miss them but I know why it happened

@theotherohlourdespadua1131 23 дня назад

"Peace" Dividend"...

@websitemartian 22 дня назад

@@jyy9624you miss having the US bases in the Philippines are you philippino?

@jyy9624 22 дня назад

@@websitemartian no just lived in Manila for 10 years - I went to school with kids from everywhere including USG, used to go shopping on the bases when my uncle was at the US embassy for 3 years, and played sports against the base schools and partied

@ruskiwaffle1991 23 дня назад

After decades, we still don't have proper fighter jets. Our FA-50 don't really have BVR capabilities which means in times of war our air force will end up as sitting ducks.

@The_ZeroLine 23 дня назад

And even when you get a proper MRF, it’s going to be a long wait to get any pilots trained, especially if it’s a US aircraft. The cue for fast jet pilot training is quite literally years long right now. With so many aircraft customers and our own military wanting another 1,000 pilots, the US’ pilot training program is at only at about 10% of the necessary capacity for meeting training demands. Europe has a backlog too. Not as bad though.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b 23 дня назад

The KAI F-50 is just a glorified advanced trainer. Nothing more.

@stingcobra8538 22 дня назад

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b no it's not. It's a light combat aircraft.

@SolomonSamson747 22 дня назад

FA-50 can use AIM-120. If your FA-50s aren’t BVR it’s because your government hasn’t purchased any AMRAAM.

@shaider1982 21 день назад

Note: FA50 do have planned upgrade packages that may include AMRAAM use.

@pigdroppings 22 дня назад

Send the NYC NFL football Jets to the Philippines.....that will solve all the problems NYC gets rid of a bad football team....and The Philippines get the Jets

@Farweasel 22 дня назад

From the 'narrow band' point of view *'Which Aeroplane best meets the Philippines needs'* ... *Its the Grippen* - All the performance, simpler, requires less expert & fewer ground personnel to keep it flying. Best of all, it can operate out of dispersed DIY roads as Airfields where the F15 can't. BUT - as Ed says. If the excrement really interfaces with the Airconditioning *nothing matches US support*

@All2Meme 22 дня назад

The Gripen uses a US engine (F404 or F414, depending on model). Could the airframes use US avionics as well?

@tagagogon6308 19 дней назад

@@All2Meme the swedish avionics is superior to the one in the f-16

@parrotraiser6541 23 дня назад

If you're facing an immediate threat, trying to rebuild an air force with a complex and unproven new fighter is asking for trouble. Learn to walk before running.

@veritasfiles 23 дня назад

I think I would be considering the F-15EX, given the ranges and weapons loads required to deal with maritime security.

@johngalt2506 23 дня назад

That was my thought. They should consider acquiring some P8s for maritime patrol as well.

@davidg3944 23 дня назад

Twice the cost of the F-16 may be an issue. Then add increased maintenance (two engines, larger airframe, greater complexity) and parts costs over the smaller jet, and it doesn't seem like such a good choice.

@SonsOfLorgar 23 дня назад

@@davidg3944 as well as fuel guzzling worse than a suicidal Muskovite downs free moonshine on may1st... And demanding airfields long enough to service a B-52...

@veritasfiles 22 дня назад

@@davidg3944 Adequate to do the job vs inadequate would be the first thing on my mind. They'd have to raise the budget to deal with the F-16. If they are dedicated to defending their maritime border, then I'd raise the budget and the bar of expectations for my people. I don't know that the F-15 is actually twice the expense of the F-16, though I'm sure it is more expensive to maintain. Either way, the cost would not be the primary issue. If necessary, I would reduce the number of air-frames by a small amount to ameliorate the costs. In any case, the F-16 is more of a point defense fighter, while the F-15 is a long-range air-defense fighter. It has been completely updated on the inside and is as modern as it gets without being stealth.

@davidg3944 22 дня назад

@@veritasfiles In reality, the PH has no chance at all against CH without very committed US help unless China's only doing a probe rather than outright conflict. I wish Xi was gone, he or his cohort have an expansionist policy that if anything is worse than putin's...

@BlueWaters-aroundme 23 дня назад

A surprise, but delightful video to be sure. Knowing my country’s procurement has been fraught with corruption and lack of urgency when it comes to military modernization is concerning to say the least, its a snails pace. Especially, given its current circumstance and worsening situation with China it is appalling that procurement of modern systems for a credible defense has (and still is) taken such a long time. But regardless, in my opinion, ideally if the Philippines would truly pursue this then it could go 2 ways. For my two cents regarding this particular topic, I have been following the MRF acquisition program for years now and have come to conclude that if the Philippines wishes to leverage its existing EDCA sites with the US as its primary defensive grand strategic plan against China then the F-16 for its air force would be the most logical choice logistically and strategically speaking, given the F-16s wide availability of parts and unmatched supply-chain. Yet, if the Philippine Air Force would lean towards having more agency and autonomy in countering their air war with China; cooperating with American units in a less dependent manner then I believe it should go with the superior platform which is the Gripen E. The Gripen E is particularly designed in fighting a defensive war against a foe that has superior strength in numbers and field significantly more fighter aircraft. The Gripen E is able to gain a better advantage by giving better situational awareness from both sensor and data fusion. E model houses an array of both active and passive sensors, and uniquely has a dedicated electronic warfare system that is made more for very contested air spaces and A2/AD spheres. Not to mention that the Swedish doctrine of smaller dispersed air bases highly fits the Philippines given its archipelagic and dense environments, thou it is doubtful they invest in this now given the largely conventional air base set up it currently has.

@sethvanast8323 22 дня назад

What is the state of the Philippine Navy? Since most encounters with the Chinese as of late seems to have been on the sea, what assets are they currently able to deploy and do they have any improvements in the works?

@johndavey72 22 дня назад

Good evening Ed. Some interesting replies . Far more knowledgable than l can submit . My most used phrase is 'l'm glad l'm the age l am " .....l'm closing in on 72 ........l look at what state this world is and wonder is there anywhere that is at peace with it's neighbour or itself ? Thanks Ed.

@BlueWaters-aroundme 22 дня назад

@@sethvanast8323 As in so far with the Navy, this branch has seen a fair bit more (relatively) improvements in the recent years in terms of capability and the widening of mission sets it is able to do. Despite this, it is too little and nowhere close to be being identified as meeting a "credible defense" criteria. As common with the whole Philippine Armed Forces as a whole, it faces the same issues in the dire lack of budget. This therefore often forces the Navy to resort in piece-meal basis of acquiring assets for its fleet, instead of implementing a comprehensive fleet aquisition that would meet its current security needs. At the current trend aquisitions for major surface ships such as frigates are acquired at 2 platforms max in separate contracts, not only does this cause further delays but hinders a consistent fleet with designated classes that have their appropriate roles. So as it stands, the navy sorely lacks in capable warships able to patrol and maintain policing in the country's own EEZ. This deficit is clearly seen with China's almost free reign within Philippine waters with Philippine Navy unable to enforce with its ships (for fear of inciting and losing its few valuable assests) and the Philippine coast guard unable to respond in equal power to the CCG. Further projects are in the works for deterence such as coastal missile batteries and more surface combatants, but undoubtedly it is still too few and slow. The current aquisition pace does not foresee a sizable force capable of witstanding a Chinese attack.

@BlueWaters-aroundme 22 дня назад

@@sethvanast8323 As in so far with the Navy, this branch has seen a bit more (relatively) improvements in the recent years in terms of capability and the widening of mission sets it is able to do. Despite this, it is too little and nowhere close to be being identified as meeting a "credible defense" criteria. As common with the whole Philippine Armed Forces as a whole, it faces the same issues in the dire lack of budget. This therefore often forces the Navy to resort in piece-meal basis of acquiring assets for its fleet, instead of implementing a comprehensive fleet aquisition that would meet its current security needs. At the current trend aquisitions for major ships such as frigates are acquired at 2 platforms max in separate contracts, not only does this cause further delays but hinders a consistent fleet with designated classes that have their appropriate roles. So as it stands, the navy sorely lacks in capable warships able to patrol and maintain policing in the country's own EEZ. This deficit is clearly seen with China's almost free reign within Philippine waters the Philippine navy is unable to enforce using its own ships (for fear of inciting and losing its few valuable assets) and the Philippine coast guard unable to respond in equal power to the CCG. Yes there are plans to acquire more deterence with coastal battery missiles and major surface combatants, but it is undoubtedly too few and slow, in regards to the ever growing situation. The current aquisition pace does not foresee a sizable force capable of defending against a chinese attack.

@rokuth 23 дня назад

It should be mentioned that Thailand has been a long term user of the Gripen C/D. It recently participated in Exercise Pitch Black which saw Filipino F/A-50 jets go up against the Thai Gripens. Thailand has since also placed an order for new Gripen E/F jets, beating out the F-16. This has caused some worry in the Philippines as the Gripen is the fighter that was being favored by the PAF pilots. The concern is that Thailand's purchase of the Gripen will cause delivery times to be beyond what is acceptable if the Gripen is chosen. There have been proposals by Saab of initial leasing of already available Gripen C/D until the E/F versions can be delivered. This mirrors proposals similar to what Lockheed Martin has been offering to the Philippines with the purchase of the F-16 As for the KAI Boromae, Indonesia was actually a minor partner in the project with South Korea. Unfortunately, there were supposed leaking of trade secret information on the KF-21 by the Indonesian Engineering Group while participating in Korea on the project. That, plus Indonesia's defaulting on payments to S. Korea for the project may lead to Indonesia eventually leaving the project.

@Kharlion 23 дня назад

nah. Indonesia won't leave the kf 21 project because korea has agreed to Indonesia's proposal to reduce their financial contribution. All this was done so that Indonesia would remain as their first export customer.

@SonsOfLorgar 23 дня назад

If they really want the SAAB 39, they should make a deal with SAAB and EMBRAER to setup a SEA factory to build and service them right there at home. They might even get Thailand to pitch in a bit of the cost of building a factory as it would make long term maintenance of the Thai Gripens easier and cheaper too.

@DanH-u3f 22 дня назад

The F16 is the most logical choice because they are a mutual defense partner of the US.

@misterbig9025 18 дней назад

Pagpag eaters can't fly F-16

@imgvillasrc1608 23 дня назад

When indigenous Indian designs have such a bad rep that not even a desperate Phillipines wants it.

@8000jk 21 день назад

The “bad rep” is from the severely delayed development and delivery of these aircraft, mostly due to inefficiencies in state owned industry (HAL) and Government/Air Force bureaucracy. Not sure why HAL is even trying to enter the competition, given that they can’t even deliver the Tejas on time to the IAF.

@Cyan_Nightingale 20 дней назад

You gotta give India respect though, India is able to develop its weapon systems indigenously. This is just the beginning

@quakethedoombringer 19 дней назад

@@8000jk PR and goodwill. Same reason a lot of random companies submit their bid for country A military procurement even though it's an open secret who is going to win. See Boeing with their F 18 and the Indian Naval Fighter Procurement, even though everyone knows that the Rafale will win

@Senbonzakura776 23 дня назад

Be cool if it was the Gripen, but will probably be the F-16

@davidgenie-ci5zl 23 дня назад

there is nothing cool about that Swedish pile of junk.

@Rom3_29 23 дня назад

Ccp has border land crab issues with all of its neighbors, except North-Korea.

@MuseumsBloke 23 дня назад

Bloomin’ PRC yet again …

@tommykaung5882 23 дня назад

Apart from fighter jets, they should buy Ukrainian naval drones as well.

@JeffBilkins 23 дня назад

Or start their own industry; marine drones are something you could get into pretty quickly without huge capital investments.

@nian60 23 дня назад

naval*

@tommykaung5882 23 дня назад

@@nian60 Thanks. English is not my first language.

@memonk11 22 дня назад

Yes!

@itzyaboimemez2074 23 дня назад

IMO, the F-16 is a good choice. Greater range, a wide variety of weapons available, large availability of parts, large pool of trainers to hire, and can be upgraded with different systems and avionics. Costs is the only problem but in recent news the US is offering 40 F-16s, used ones if I can remember. Compared to the 12-14 Gripen C Saab is offering, the 40 fighters is a steal.

@PrayerWarriorUSA 18 дней назад

Wasnt PAF acquiring 40 F-16s already and deal was signed? Did it get cancelled? Maybe becoz SKorea extended a better deal on KF-21 and FA-50. I would actually buy more FA-50 and put in an order for KF21 with Reproduction/Tech transfer license. Then buy Gripens also since Sweden offering Production/Tech transfer license to PH

@cptnemo20kl 22 дня назад

The Philippines should have a mix (while it may be more logistically difficult) of hi-lo-trainers with Gripens, Vipers, and F-50s. Gripens have the latest in tech, armaments, and can be an ironic (from how they are designed to be serviced by conscripts) elite force that can operate in constantly-repositioned austere air strips (so difficult to target) with minimal crew. F-16s form the bulk of missions and patrols and force presence, as they are more numerous and will have a stronger parts supply chain for flying more hours. But, tied to good airfields will make them easier to target. F-50s continue to be trainers. This is what Ukraine should do as well, should they get the money/aircraft now or….y’know…whenever Russia retreats and ends the war.

@OperationEndGame 19 дней назад

They could also do 20 F-16s’, 20 JAS-39’s, and supplement with 36 FA-50 Block 20…. Upgrade the existing FA-50’s to Block 20 specs… As far as distribution/stationing these planes: 10( F-16) + 10 (JAS-39) + 16 (FA-50) in Luzon ADIZ; 10 (F-16) + 10 (JAS-39) + 16 (FA-50) in Palawan (ADIZ); 10 (F-16) in Cebu/Mactan; 10 (JAS-39) + 16 (FA-50) in Mindanao ADIZ…. It’s possible…

@reybombay4095 22 дня назад

Every problem of our country can be attributted to poor decisions of our political leaders.

@steveburke7675 23 дня назад

F-16s are capable and all over the world....parts are easily sourced and updates frequent.

@adm7038 13 дней назад

Best bang for bucks : Used and upgraded ex-USAF F-16s. Hand me downs don’t sound great but numbers matter.

@johnrusselperez2233 17 дней назад

The KF-21 block 1 is already in production and will be scheduled to be introduced in 2026.

@floycewhite6991 22 дня назад

Now that the Philippines has fossil fuel, it can afford a defense.

@markxfarmer6830 21 день назад

Gripen E/F or late model Vipers. Interoperability and training/support are capabilities and the Viper makes the most sense. A squadron or two (for spares) of A-10Cs and lots of Mavericks and 2.75” FFARs for coastal defense and patrol (with COIN backup) would be a good move too.

@MM22966 23 дня назад

1:42 Let us savor the irony of the USS Independence saying goodbye to Subic so the Philippines can be more...independent from the United States.

@phil_nebula676 22 дня назад

For me the F-16V Block 70 and KF-21EX Block 3 with the JAS-39E/F being third.

@The_ZeroLine 23 дня назад

Beyond being a great aircraft, the Gripen’s _by far_ the most practical option in terms of logistic/ops for 🇵🇭 / any state w/out experienced maintainers, non-ideal infrastructure and especially if they’re in range of Chinese stand off range cruise missiles and want (should be in this case) want to use roads as runways for dispersal of aircraft. As usual, the US will likely muscle Saab and Sweden out of finally getting the overdue and purchases it deserves so well. The main obstacle for any country right now in building up an air force is that there is literally a years long cue for fast jet pilot training. The West and especially the US since it has so many customers is at literally around 10% of the necessary capacity for meeting pilot training demands. Even our own Air Force is 1,000+ pilots short of where they want it to be.

@mowgli2071 23 дня назад

The Grippen doesn't have the range that the F-16 does. Nor does it have the parts train. And it doesn't have the multinational geezer force of retired pilots and maintenance personnel that the F-16 has. Which can be called upon for advice by the Philippines. And range is king in the Pacific.

@wakin3079 23 дня назад

nope F16 is better

@550r 23 дня назад

Good as it is, the Gripen E is actually more expensive than the F-35 from what has been reported. Thailand is only buying it because they weren’t approved to get the F-35.

@davidgenie-ci5zl 23 дня назад

as usual, swedish junk.

@SonsOfLorgar 23 дня назад

@@wakin3079 😂 Joint airforce exercises evaluations says otherwise in every aspect except flight range and time over target... And the latter is because the Gripen isn't designed to loiter. Where the F-16 is like a gentlemans smallsword and an F-15 is like a basket hilted broadsword, The Gripens role is to be the equivalent of furiously pumping a shiv into an attackers spleen, kidneys and liver in a dark alley until the attacker goes limp and quiet and can be left to the rats...

@infinitechi3544 18 дней назад

Make the Bulacan or New Manila International airport to dual use Airport one side Civilian the other side one runways a military/coastguard air base with caveat that the airports also acquire a jet fighters as part of the infrastructure packages. Peace

@joaoespecial4168 22 дня назад

F16 now as a stop gap (12-20) and them loads of Grippens to operate from small airfields in several islands

@jomazerud 19 дней назад

F-16 spare parts are plenty and cheap.

@unlimitedhornetworks 10 дней назад

F-18s would probably be a better option since the US Navy has more presence in the region than the Air Force does.

@peteip2604 15 дней назад

Not a problem with getting weapons, problem is money and the long term cost to maintain the fighter jets. Also the political situation, if you don’t do, what the USA says or you upset them. They stop supplying parts to you, look at Turkey 🇹🇷.

@BoringAngler 21 день назад

Twenty five years too late, but a fun purchase to troll the PRC would have been buying AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo from Taiwan.

@leponpon6935 13 дней назад

Isn't the Philippines non-existent aircraft industry able to build up on whatever they have right now? On top of whatever scrap they may receive later? If so, why is it not? Isn't some ineffective resistance better than none?

@ryanc00p3r3 19 дней назад

If the F-16C Block 52+ is loosing because SAAB offer the Gripen E/F in cheap price. I would be shock if the US offer the F-35A for cheaper than the actual price with certine modification to suit the PAF requirment. maybe it may turned into a 4.5+ gen F-35A only for PAF but that's not gonna happen. they may end up reduce the F-16 Block 70 Price than what they offer back then in order to beat SAAB. SAAb and Lockheed Martin is the only Competitor so far. KF-21 is not yet Multu Role Fighter as the PAF General saw. The Block 1 is a Air Suppiriority role and not yet in Multi Role. The KF-21 Multi Role may have to be the Block 2 which can do ground attack and Anti Surface role or Block 3 with internal weapons bay but that would be in 2030, and PAF want a MRF now as soon as possible. They also now a bidding competition for MLRS program, South Korea Hanwha Defence Chunmoo K239 MLRS, Israel Elbit System PULS MLRS and US Lockheed Martin with it's famous HIMARS MLRS.

@FinsburyPhil 23 дня назад

Of course the F-16 will win...

@michaellim4165 20 дней назад

Not necessarily because production takes time. The F16 is backlogged until 2030s.

@thearisen7301 22 дня назад

Gripen would also mean Meteor but F-16 would bring JASSM. AIM-174B *could* happen but would likely be too expensive so much more probable to get AMRAAM. Gripen's best ASM is RBS 15 but SAAB would be willing to integrate any missile I'm sure but JASSM is the king of the heap.

@TheSuperKnug 23 дня назад

If you are to take the Philippines' requirement for a multi-role aircraft that can also strike against maritime targets, the JAS 39 Gripen is the obvious choice. It can use several of the naval target robot RBS 15 per aircraft and as icing on the cake it can use the Meteor missiles. Even the newest models of the F16 cannot do this at the same level.

@paulsteaven 22 дня назад

Harpoon? Penguin? And maybe even JSM if you're rich enough.

@johna3142 22 дня назад

F-16 cannot do vs maritime targets? You sure? What’s with the Ice Breaker, SOM-J, SLAM-ER, Delilah, JSM missiles on F-16s then???

@juanperes-jy1di 17 дней назад

philiphines need f-18, uses the same engine as fa-50

@TheodoreScopeline 16 дней назад

If they are smart they will ask for a modernized F-14 Tomcat!

@williamroberts1819 23 дня назад

The Philippines are like the Mexico of Asia. And we need more Mexicans. Save the Philippines.

@imgvillasrc1608 23 дня назад

We need to give a REASON for Filipinos not to leave our country.

@hyndriandelmundo6855 19 дней назад

Thanks in behalf Filipino in Philippines sir show Philippines issue china.sad say don't have much money and resources bbuild military .i hope country agree allow USA or alliance build military base in Philippines so save money buy technology build own military industry it show UKRAINE need independent come depends.they will help give weapon but need permission use them .

@rubencastillo9646 17 дней назад

2 Squadrones of Rafale F4 1SQUADRON of F35 Lightning II. Good combination for Multi Role Aircraft.

@ShaneBaker 22 дня назад

If you beat the drums of war - they will come. I wonder who will be the beneficiaries: Lockheed or Boeing?

@scottrobinson3281 23 дня назад

The KF-21 could be mistaken for an F-22.

@bangmo7 22 дня назад

LM support, except in those areas as AESA, EO, IR, and electronic warfare.

@alansmedley4731 21 день назад

Didn't the Philippines asked the United States to leave now they want our help

@1BigBen 22 дня назад

Philippines are most likely getting the 10 F-16C and 2 F-16D Block 70, deal has already green light from the US. no Gripen c is free and with Sweden and Brazil together have 100 Gripen E of the Swedish production that "can" hit max between 20-25 per year, however its hasn't been running at that rated so far, but its looks like they are offering India 20-25 jet per year deal, if India takes that deal any other order are unlikely on till 2027-ish. so with 130 Jaguar M/S and 127 Mig-21 running out of time, the Tejas 32 + 180 on order will not cover that fleet fast enough and Rafale end of production has push back two years to 2035 to fulfil standing orders, so 50 Gripen E is India best option and leaving Philippines in the cold. however Philippines smart move would be 10 F-16C/2 F-16D Block 70 and 32 Gripen E and 6 Gripen D main fleet 10 F-16V(C) 32 Gripen E 12 FA-50 Training Fleet 2 F-16V (D) 6 Gripen D 3 S-211 19 SF-260 6 EMB-314

@Shortcarl 16 дней назад

Rafale and Gripen are so european, we should buy american F-16 instead.

@babboon5764 22 дня назад

Philippines compalins about American Bases Americans (somewhat unusally perhaps) say OK & pull out Philippines complains America is no longer there to hide behind And the moral of the story is *Be careful what you wish for*

@DK-yz9xk 18 дней назад

Please have all the jets you need Filipine aka ukraine 2

@maxo.9928 22 дня назад

The Tejas is a pipedream

@marc9080 22 дня назад

rafale to take the best!

@tallthinkev 23 дня назад

2/3rds F-16 1/3rd Gripen

@MaxwellAerialPhotography 23 дня назад

the worst of both worlds, complicates maintenance and logistics without and sufficient increase in real world capability.

@joshuabessire9169 23 дня назад

You get: Oldest fighters, our General with the biggest hat. We get: a speed bump to Australia.

@JeffBilkins 23 дня назад

Good luck, it is a long way and didn't end too well last time someone tried.

@mowgli2071 23 дня назад

@@joshuabessire9169 Fake.

@sayfolman7752 20 дней назад

Just Buy JF 17 From Pakistan

@nian60 23 дня назад

Gripen C comes in a maritime version that can land on aircraft carriers. I don't know if any of those have actually been built though. But there is promotional material for it. Gripen is often the best plane for the job but due to politics it doesn't get chosen. (See the Ukraine - Mordor war, for example).

@ReZel80657 23 дня назад

That version only exist on paper none have ever been built

@SonsOfLorgar 23 дня назад

The Gripen has short enough landing and take-off requirements that it can operate from a US Nimitz class carrier without need for wire hook or catapult😂

@ReZel80657 23 дня назад

@@SonsOfLorgar Thats not true a Gripen needs about 500 meters of runway and even the largest carrier the Enterprise was only 342 meters long the newer Nimitz are shorter at 332 meters so no a Gripen cant take off or land on a carrier in its current form

@seanmcardle 11 дней назад

The next puppet after ukraine

@OctopusgamingYTw 18 дней назад

Rafale is outdated

@classicforreal 22 дня назад

Why do they call it the 9 Dash line when clearly on the map it has way more than just 9 dashes.

@scipioafricanus4328 12 дней назад

The original Chinese map which is the basis of their claim did have only 9 dashes- which demonstrates how vague and tenuous their bogus claim is.

@jlvfr 22 дня назад

Does the Philipines have _training_ aircraft suitable to train fast jet pilots?

@MM22966 23 дня назад

"The Filipino Ministry of Defense will now be accepting bribes...I mean BIDS from all leading aerospace firms wishing to sell their aircraft."

@All2Meme 22 дня назад

In that case, it will be the F-16. Lockheed Martin has tons of experience with that.

@MM22966 21 день назад

@@All2Meme "Look, it's not going to fall out of the sky if you buy it..." "Like the Starfighter?" "Okay, bad example."

@salty4496 23 дня назад

@TheDalhuck 23 дня назад

Dear Philippines: Will trade F-35s for lumpia and pansit. Thanks.

@imgvillasrc1608 22 дня назад

@TheDalhuck Man, we'll give you guys sisig as a bonus!

@MM22966 23 дня назад

1:57 *"SHOW ME YOUR COMMUNISM FACE!!!"* "Hey, I didn't mean literally...."

@mikepette4422 23 дня назад

Keep up with the current international news. I subbed to watch the airplane stuff but this is far less important than knowing whats going on elsewhere in places nobody talks about like BURMA ( I dont use the other name). But I think the Philippines is a place we all had best be watching with interest

@z3r0_35 23 дня назад

The Philippines really needs to prioritize anti-shipping capabilities when deciding what fighters to buy. In that realm there's basically two choices: the Super Hornet and the Rafale. Considering Boeing's issues with quality control lately, I'm not sure I'd trust the Super Bug to perform as needed, so the Rafale might be the safer choice. The F-16's an option too but those are on back order with Ukraine and several European countries already having some earmarked for them, so those would likely be delayed. If they want something like the F-16 that may be more readily available, there's always the Gripen.

@LolTollhurst 23 дня назад

Anti-shipping? One of the pillars of the swedish situation? The 39 Gripen system was and is built around Rbs-15 employment, same as the Lansen and Viggen before it in role and requirement. Harpoon has been integrated as well due to export needs. Kindly, there is no reason for such insults sir! /s

@deanzaZZR 23 дня назад

The Chinese have airfields on the reclaimed islands in the immediate area. Chinese can easily move fighter jets into the area if provoked by Filipino actions.

@z3r0_35 22 дня назад

@@deanzaZZR The only one provoking anyone here is China.

@davec5153 23 дня назад

It would benefit the US to even give them f16's for free. So I think your right.

@av8tor261 22 дня назад

The Philippines has no money to buy fighter jets let alone operate and maintain fighter jets. Like Canada PH will rely on the Yanks for protection. A PH fighter firing on a Chines ship is one thing but, a US backed fighter firing on a Chines ship is another. I perdict things in the South China Sea are going the escalate. One these events is going to go from trading boat paint to shots fired.

@HarshGupta-my5pk 23 дня назад

I believe tejas mk1a from india is great, they r offering at very soft loan and payment of over many years, will come with brahmos NG and NASM-MR missile also phillipines can install any missile they want and also has US engine which share commonality with FA-50

@user-kc1tf7zm3b 23 дня назад

Hard pass. Indian fighter jets are rubbish. There is no substitute for American fighters. Never. 🇵🇭🇺🇸

@8000jk 21 день назад

Problem is that having a US made engine would result in sabotage of the Tejas bid in order for their own F-16 platform to be accepted. Remember, that even the IAF order has been delayed due to apparent “supply chain” issues with the engines.

@sayfolman7752 20 дней назад

Yeah It Great But Pinoy Don't Have Money,Even Recent Purchase Of Coastal Defense Brahmos Are Incomplete Package Without C4ISR stands for Command, Control, Communications, Computers (C4) Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR), which provide enhanced situational awareness. BrahMos a wonderful symbol but Philippines lacks capability to operate, says Ashley Tellis If a country did not have C4ISR capability, having a missile was a wonderful symbol but not of much operational use, says former senior adviser to US state department.

@mclovinU2night 23 дня назад

If it wasnt for boeing mismanagement, F18 could be a contender.

@iatsd 23 дня назад

The problem with the F16 is that it's the *least* capable of performing the air defence and anti-shipping roles. The Gripen and Rafael both do it better, and cheaper than new build F16. An option that would be price competitive and give them strong long range area air defense and anti-shipping/strike capability would be the F15EX.

@mowgli2071 23 дня назад

@@iatsd that's not true at all. F-16 is very good for air defense. And Grippen simply does not have the range that the F-16 has. Range is king in the pacific. Nor do any of the fighters that you're going to mention have the data link capability that the F-16 has. The Philippines will most likely be using American ordinance for anti-ship and anti-air missions. An American platform interfaces with such ordinance more seamlessly than a non-US platform. And then there's the satellite interface. Sweden simply can't match the American satellite network. Nor does it have the parts train or experience pool that the F-16 has. Belgium, Greece, Denmark, Norway, The Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, and Israel have all flown the F-16 longer than the Grippen has existed. And then there's Argentina, South Korea, and Taiwan, and Singapore.

@SCH292 23 дня назад

@@mowgli2071 Some people don't "think about logic" and "repairs". People like the OP of the comment only think about..."numbers and letters" when come to this sort of topic.

@leifiseland1218 23 дня назад

@@mowgli2071Hmm.. incorrect, Gripen E/F outranges F-16.🧐 It would also allow using some rather attractive weaponry , like IRIS-T, Meteor, RBS-Gungnir, & KEPD 350, apart from munitions that are also available with F-16..😉 & the EW-suite of Gripen E/F seems to become quite exceptional.

@mowgli2071 23 дня назад

@@leifiseland1218 False. Gripen does not outrange F-16. And those are all second-rate munitions to American munitions. And if those munitions were so great they could be adapted for Carrie on the F-16. 😉 And Swedish e.w. cannot compete with American e.w.

@davidgenie-ci5zl 23 дня назад

there are many inexpensive highly capable second hand F16s to be had.

@MultiCconway 22 дня назад

Boom tanker capable aircraft should be removed form the candidate list right up front. The KF-21 and F-16 candidacy should END right there. Also the JAS-39 has the largetst weapons accomodation list of all of the candidates, and has the lowest Operations & Maintenance budget requirements. The Philippines are not just mission focussed but cost contious. The JAS-39 can operate from many of the bases and quite a few airfields that the F-16s would never operate from.

@rob5944 22 дня назад

Buy American and accept all US help that is on offer, including the establishment of their bases, both naval and air force, and army too if they're willing. Otherwise you might find yourselves ending up like a giant Hong Kong, and nobody wants that, apart from China that is.. No, I'm not from uncle Sam, I just know what good for me!

@68orangecrate26 22 дня назад

Take the jets from Ukraine and give them to the Philippines!

@deanzaZZR 23 дня назад

Filipino fantasty. Economically PH has zero chance of matching any Chinese escalation. Bong Bong would get a few propaganda video out of it at least.

@razorburn645 22 дня назад

It's not about matching. It's about making one's self more costly to take. Are you you a child or something?

@marsmotion 22 дня назад

all that needs to happen is the usn to sail into harbor and the c130s to start delivering assets.

@AkilezNewEngland 20 дней назад

The Philippines has access to the Aegis Weapon System through the Mid-Range Capability (MRC) missile defense system, which was deployed to northern Luzon in April 2024. The MRC system was developed using Lockheed Martin's expertise with the Aegis Weapon System and the MK 41 Vertical Launching System (VLS).

@captaindouchebag1703 14 дней назад

What about the Super hornet? It is American and very capable. It does have some advantages over the Viper such as twin engines, and a greater range and weapons load. It also has interoperability with both the Americans and the Aussies (both of which support the Philippines against the CCP, keeping the Super Hornet production going a little longer will benefit the USN, RAAF and PAF) and the proposed Block III variant is a 4.5 Gen fighter that is getting closer to 5th Gen than the other types. The Rafale, while very competent is more expensive than an F-35 and doesn't use American weapons. integration would be a problem.. Though I think the Gripen would also be a good candidate as it does have some integration with American (NATO) weapon systems. Sadly I think they will end up with Vipers, Whilst years ahead of what they have aren't as advanced as the Super Hornet and Gripen.

@l.bakker7563 23 дня назад

Its not the Rafael, it's the Rafale.

@FirstDagger 23 дня назад

Ironically he got it right one time.

@MaxwellAerialPhotography 23 дня назад

it's leviosa not leviosaaaaaa

@migueldelacruz4799 23 дня назад

@@MaxwellAerialPhotographyyou beat me too it

@Erik_123 23 дня назад

I think most important are the missles and radar, rather than the actual jet they use

@rj8u 18 дней назад

The Gripen is the choice in terms of capability and value for the money. The then Philippines then should buy the South Korean Jet as future proofing their air force.

@nrauhauser 23 дня назад

I agree with Ed - available now, American pressure, Philippines will be getting F-16s. But they'll regret the timing and not having the KF-21.

@shaider1982 23 дня назад

I don't know, hopefully the Boramae doesn't suffer from serious teething problems during its development.

@passantNL 23 дня назад

It's irrelevant which aircraft they buy. The Philippines will always be defenseless against China. The only thing that matters is whether the US is committed to defend the Philippines and what the Philippines need to do to get (and keep) that commitment. Buying F-16 might simply be part of the deal.

@MaxwellAerialPhotography 23 дня назад

If the KF-21 every actually goes into to serial production

@imgvillasrc1608 23 дня назад

If it will take time to come out for full production, might as well get the F-35 by the time the KF-21 comes out. A real stealth multirole aircraft that is CURRENTLY available in the market.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b 23 дня назад

The KF-21 is pointless as is simply an air superiority fighter until the Block 2 revision is finally produced. The F-16 is a mature multirole platform available now.

@evanulven8249 23 дня назад

Hm, yeah. If the contract goes through, my money is on the F-16. Very well proven aircraft, plentiful parts, insane weapon options, and easily supported. After that, I'd say Gripen. About equal to the F-16 in capability, newly NATO integrated, and a very rough-and-tumble aircraft that can make use of dirt airstrips on random islands. Though getting stores of parts and munitions from Sweden in volumes enough to keep the Gripens supported might be a deal breaker. Honestly, I'm kind of surprised Japan isn't in the running. If China goes hot, Japan coming in off the top rope is all be guaranteed.

@quakethedoombringer 23 дня назад

Also politics. If war with China gets hot, I don't expect spare aircrafts or parts from Sweden will fly to the Philippines any time soon

@evanulven8249 23 дня назад

@@quakethedoombringer Agreed. Which, makes me wonder again at Japan. They manufacture their own version of the F-16, or at least they did recently.

@deddye 23 дня назад

@@evanulven8249the Mitsubishi F-2, which has a naval strike capability. It would be an interesting purchase, especially given Japans recent loosening of restrictions to foreign sales.

@All2Meme 22 дня назад

@@deddye The F-2 might have enough commonality with the F-16 to allow PAF pilots to transition from one to the other. The PAF might be interested in getting surplus maritime patrol aircraft from the JMSDF as well. The E-2 Hawkeye would provide the PAF with AWACS support as well.

@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko 23 дня назад

In my opinion, Philippines should forgo the multirole fighters and buy more FA-50 block 20 which is able to fire BVR missiles since cost is a major reason why it can't acquire refurbished F-16s. Another reason is because multirole fighters must be twin engine so that it has better payload capabilities and combat range. F-16 is meant to complement the F-15, not be the frontline fighters.