Phoenix vs. Odin Fight Scene (Final Fantasy XVI) 4K ULTRA HD Eikons Cinematic 

Yeah and it's proven that it keeps him alive despite his health condition of coughing all the time.

That’s not true he literally says it cant

@@vincentsanabria It is true. If you are referring to him how he merged with Ultima, than of course he can't because ultima literally created him and the eikons. He revived himself when he battled his brother and died. NO OTHER Eikon can do that. Hugo died and wasn't revived. Benedikta died and didn't return. Jill almost died when hugo wanted to execute her and they were sure she wasn't coming back. I would say she was the exception because Clive mentioned she can't die because of something that had to do with Shiva being able to revive herself as well.

There were many phoenix dominants before according to the lore, meaning they all died. So no he can't be eternal.

@@Ephideltrance yeah I remember that Ultima said they tried to use Mythos many times to become a higher being. So I forgot how many times they reset the world. So I am sure the phoenix dominants were used by Ultima, just as Joshua and Clive were.

LOTR, berserk all of it.

Don’t forget the villain straight out of Xenoblade

Titans

Each nation has eikon like naruto with jinchurikia

@@Strider_1_Trigger Crystalline Dominion doesn’t. It’s implied Leviathan used to be their Eikon, but it’s never explained what happened to it

I mean he was kind of a good guy in FF4. He fuckin' died and was impersonated from the very beginning but he was nice enough to lend his power after challenging the party's worth.

True, inevitable death? Of all the gods they could have take, they chose Odin to represent that?

@@efaristi9737 Insomuch as Final Fantasy lore is concerned; yes. Of course, any and all of them can kill you.

Remember in FF8 when Seifer cut Odin in half only to get punked by Gilgamesh?

@@VSX0021OmegaGundamseifer had the power of the sorceress behind him though at that point no? Odin really had one hell of a presence in that game when he’d show up. Then you get gilgamesh lol

Well Odin is in the same as Bahamut and we saw how it took both Phoenix and Ifrit together to beat it.

@@syzorst It's an Unfair assessment. At least we certain that Clive is Stronger because he killed everyone, including Ultima. According to Game, Phoenix seemed to be most Feared Eikon, after Odin. The fact that is his Kingdom remained untouchable & shelter Branded. And him being strong enough even to seal Ultima. And what I meant by Unfair Assessment is Clive rejected Ifrit constantly and wouldn't use him out of guilt for killing Joshua. Mean while, Joshua has always been Sick since he was a Child. He just wasn't physically strong. Eikons' Powers seemed to heavily tied to their physical well being of their Dorminant such as Jill being weak, causing Shiva to became weak, if I'm not mistaken, she supposed to be second only to Bahamut and stronger than everyone including Ifrit, Garuda, Ramu & Ifrit. Cid mention that Benedikta's Eikon is tough to beat which is probably true but Benedikta is weak, that's why Clive could beat her. So both of Clive & Josh were never been at their Prime while Bahamut was truly at peace with himself, to point of not even struggle to call his Eikon after Clive took part of it away. Considering them talking about fighting the big boss and Bahamut were kind of left out of the conversation and simply became a Driver instead, which kind of heavily implied that Ifrit & Phoenix are stronger. And both of them, would be much stronger than Bahamut, as Phoenix were able to handle Ultima for extensive period of time despite being in bad shape & hold one Ultima locked inside of him and Clive himself, bested everyone. If Phoenix awake in Clive instead (Who is physically stronger than everyone else), Phoenix might just be unbeatable.

​@@syzorst We do have to consider that Bahamut was souped up on the mothercrystal, and Odin id akashic

@CojaGamez Bahamut beat the crap out of Pheonix first then when Clive jumped in, he didn't fair much better and this was before Bahamut absorbed that large chunk of mother crystal. Ifrit and Phoenix had to fight it 2 vs 1 to at least get the upperhand. It was only when Bahamut absorbed the mother crystal that Phoenix and Ifrit had to merge together.

@@syzorst Yeah, Ifrit was doing more or less fine before Bahamut took in the mothercrystal

All the fights were

​@@thefiresworddragon927didn't Joshua die ?

@@thefiresworddragon927 agreed. All fight are badass

the most epic one is the one vs bahamut

Pretty sure Ultima would have just bitch slapped them down and waited for Odin to choose another dominant

You mean bahamut too, I'd say that would take some fire power to beat, especially considering the one Clive and Joshua fought was an out of control frenzied one, if dion had control I'd say the fields are pretty equal.

They did hire DMC guys to work on it, also explains all the leather in this game.

He was trying 😭😭😭

@@_ytnahs when he showed up with the hoodie looking like Roxas, I thought he was going to wreck everybody. Boy was I wrong lol

@@2ibesmanicanbe I like Joshua as a character but objectively speaking, as a Dominant he is the weakest one out of the bunch, and I feel like he couldn't unlock the true potential like Clive did with Ifrit. I don't know how far you've gotten into the story, but considering what Barnabas told Clive about the god and the Eikons after this scene, maybe Joshua being picked as the Phoenix and not being able to unlock its full potential was done on purpose.

@@_ytnahs I just got Odin, so I think I have one more boss and that’s it. I could be wrong though

To be fair, he had a damn ultima parasite sucking the strength out of him the entire game

They cut the budget, Leviathan enters the chat could make it a holy epic battle

Medicine Girl was busy...

Reporting from the future wish granted

@@Beigemage0621i forgot about that character. was she originally meant to be leviathan?

@@yourehereforthatarentyou Guess not, but there was a running fan theory that tried to explain why she appears twice in the story to main characters then disappears. Turns out she had more in common with a red herring than a mythical sea serpent if you play the dlc.

Lol if anything, Joshua, Clive, and Jill remind me more of Ventus, Terra, and Aqua. While Roxas reminds me more of Cloud.

Moses is just the code name for Odin. He didn't use a staff to part the waves... he used a very sharp sword.

Yeah Mosedin

Some scenes was cut in this video, we do see them engage in sword fight also. But yea it was short, then as eikons it was off screen.

Naah Tifa looks better. Wayy Better

@@Darkslayer1993 tifa looks more anime and Jill looks more realistic, to each their own

@@nurzhansergazy9271 Ok. But I personally have a huge crush on Tifa she is literally my favorite fictional female character. And it will never change.

The Facial Motion capture actors from Clive and Jill are the same from Tifa and Cloud . So Both good

That’s correct

Yeah. Was just thinking about that the other day and what his design would have been like.. it’s a shame he never primed. Would have been cool when he was battling the akashik on his own to prime just to wipe them out quickly or something

It didn't 😅 Barnabas undid that.

For a while yes, until he released his hold on it

If it wasn't for joshua's barriar..Odin Slash would of Wiped out the Ships

I think Leviathan is already dead by the time the story takes place

I think we'll see a dlc with Leviathan. The fact that the walls of the ocean remained uncollapsed for a long while hints that it is supported by some power. It could have been done by Barnabas tho.

He was weakened

Odin is juiced remember. Barnabas went akakashic and you could say Joshua keeps getting weaker as the story progresses.

True.... was disappointed by it... Rushed most probably...

Wdymn?

​@@fersho450don't acknowledge stupidity

No only ur momma went down after she gave birth to u. Get it its bcuz she gave birth to u.

Fan bases are cancer I officially believe the devs now

​@@vincentsanabriaFan bases suck. they get what they want and still cry

I disagree. FF has always been story focused games with its own standalone lore (something something crystals) and different themes in each iteration, along with some great music and world building...not about badass looking main characters lol. This game is definitely FF.

@@mrchefcheck then what make you think this is FF in the first glance without seeing its name? Every game has its signature looking main characters. Even FF1 we have Warrior of the Light. Personally I don't like this to be called FF.

​@@KienNguyen-nn7cfso you dislike that this game is called final fantasy...because you dont like the look of the main character? Damn better rename it then, how about "game that has final fantasy elements, but main character looks weird to some so we cant call it final fantasy 16"?!

@@theoneandonly9775 Some FF fans are so entitled and keep b!tching too much for silly reasons.

@@aoto8897dude is literally complaining about nothing