PHYSICIAN vs VETERINARIAN NEUROSURGEON 

yeah that's crazyyy...Imagine being half time physician and half time veterinary tho. that has to be the rarest combo on planet Earth.

We learn 23 in school!

As a GP veterinary nurse, it's honestly just a way of life. It's a lot to learn and I am continually learning new things about various species, but we don't really think about it. When I'm on the dog side of the building, I put on my canine medicine cap, and on the cat side I put on my feline medicine cap. 😅 I work in predominantly small animal, so it's mostly just the two. Then again, I have also anesthetized an African bullfrog, taken rads on a guinea pig, placed a jugular IV catheter in a calf, and performed CPR on a mini pig. All at the same clinic. When it gets wild is when you start considering diagnostic imaging, anesthesia, surgery, and dentistry all going on under the same roof. Most GPs don't have the luxury of a board certified specialist in house, so you have to be competent in pretty much every aspect of medicine at once. (And most meds are filled in house, so no pharmacist available to help.) My GP is sort of the extreme, but we do orthopedic surgery and some neurosurgical procedures in house, as well as our own CT interpretations. I'm pretty sure we have a nephrectomy coming up as well. Also have to tell you that you have not lived until you've been involved in a C-section on a canine patient. My biggest litter to date has been nine (which honestly isn't even impressive) and it is mass chaos trying to get 9 puppies to breathe at the same time while the only DVM in the building is scrubbed into surgery and trying to stuff 2 feet of uterine horns back into the abdominal incision.

@@superjello3979 wow! Big ups to you! I was a biology major when my (previous) boyfriend's Golden Retriever went into labor and his dad called me to come deliver the pups. I grabbed scissors, dental floss and towels and hyperventated right along with Momma as she birthed healthy pups...my biggest fear was losing one. I did freak out when a few came out in intact sacs! Momma didn't break them, so I did. It was definitely unforgettable, even though about 25 years ago now.

@Laughingathwrld Only if you're delusional.

Also in vet med- it's been terrible. The first 6 months to a year, people were super nice bc we were "essential". Now we're in hell. I see a lot of people trying to vet hop so they can find someone who won't enforce curbside service. If the first words out of a potential new client's mouth are "ARE YOU LETTING PEOPLE COME INSIDE" I will likely tell you we're not accepting new clients...

As someone who also works in vet med, this strikes home. The verbal abuse has taken a toll, along with burnout. In my area, many veterinary practices have lost doctors and staff due to burnout and stress. Even our emergency veterinary practices cannot run the same way they used to. Things have been tough. I sympathize with you.

I am currently going to school to be a nurse in pediatrics.. I just wanted to say thank you so much to every one of you. All the vets I've met have taken great care of my kitty when I'd bring her in for her shots and or concerns (I'm and very protective pet owner) and no matter how much a visit is you all do such an amazing job and I love my little fur baby. Thank you so much.

No way... all my this time in my environment people saids that in USA (I'm from MX) Veterinarians have a better status, but now I can see that we are exposeded exactly the same way. somebody sayid mi yesterday that day by day, less people want to work as an small animal vet, is that really?

You're very right

This is facts

As a human nurse and dog mom, I have to agree. I constantly apologize to our vet and his staff because my boy just hates to go there. He is definitely muzzled, though, and has been professionally trained, but after getting his temp taken, his manners kinds go.

and don't let me start with hematology, in Vet, I have to remember and recognised at least 9 species of different blood cells. There is also difference between breeds.

@@melissaparks6698 j

My husband was a third generation medic. He worked on an ambulance during college. His brother was killed in a car accident. He didn’t cry. He took an elder cat who had tachycardia to the vet. When he came home without the cat he insisted I leave with him. He drove to a parking lot, sat in the car and nearly cried, obviously traumatized.

how is being a veterinarian?

Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it!

Prech! 15+ yrs LVT. Mainly surgey. Went from er tech, to surgey, head sx tech. Surgey tech supervisor, to surgery/specialty tech supervisor. I moved and now I'm happily just a plan ol er tech lol 😆 😅 (I might be a little out of practice on a few things for on er floor lol)

Fellow CVT here! I have a cat I adopted with Horner's syndrome and bilateral nystagmus following head trauma (HBC). It definitely makes you appreciate neuro. Much respect to you in ECC work. I work in a weirdly specialized GP and it feels like I somehow stumble onto the majority of the emergent cases that come in and it is intense. Props to anyone who can do that for a living.

I just subscribed to your channel 🙏🙏🐼🐼

@@alanna4148 thank you!

I agree.

Vets certainly aren’t in it for the money. They are so whip-smart to be able to practice what they do, and so compassionate and loving towards animals they’re bit by, clawed at, and urinated on daily. They are criminally underpaid.

As a vet nurse, I assure you I'm in this field for the compassion and intellectual curiosity. I have 2 degrees, am licensed, and have 2 additional certifications (Fear Free and Pet Nutrition Coach), and I made $30k last year. I'd say the associate vets I work with made, at most, double that. We are definitely not in this for the money.

@@Fortune_44 actually if you check out the average salary for a veterinarian is $113,590 per year in the United States. Not bad in my opinion

Absolutely

​@@liv0003Those websites don't really reflect reality. I google the average salary in Australia, for vets and trust me it's NOT reality. Here in Australia many websites say that the average new grad vet salary is 80k-95k+. This is NOT true. The reality is more like 40k-65k. Now compare that to the 300k+ it costs to go through vet school here (or more if you took several years at uni to get into vet school).A senior GP vet would be lucky to earn up to 100k a year. Considering we are professionals that are trained to do everything from dentistry, surgery, radiology, ultrasonography, histopathology, etc... we are criminally underpaid. Also, when a dog gets a blood test, we often call you, the client with results. This won't or rarely happens in human med. You cannot call to speak to a human doctor. You have to pay for a separate consult to get your blood results back. And apparently WE are the expensive ones.

Could you explain me what is behind of that phrase (not one more vet)?

Find the page on FB. It is a movement to support the mental health of veterinarians, to lessen the incidence of suicide in the profession.

Real doctors treat more than one species! 😁👍 lol my favorite saying throughout my vet career

How do I get into UC Davis?

Good deal! I'm from Benicia & all my pets went to Steven Krome. I believe he bought a practice in Walnut Creek. Wonderful fellow!

thank you!

Amen! I want to keep doing my job, I do enjoy it, but I can’t survive. 😔

Also a tech and I couldn't agree more !

This. Second year vet and I've already started accumulating scars from work placements.

Yeah, I definitely agree. This is difficult though. The extra money has to come from somewhere. Where? I kind of think insurance companies, but then that's just another pain in the ass on the vet clinic staff has to deal with

thanks nancy

couldn't agree more!

I graduated medical school 1983. I’ve also rescued 56 dogs in my life. I’m almost always the only person in the rescue group that has any sort of healthcare training so I get all the sick dogs. This means I have spent a lot of time in veterinary offices. Veterinarian that I have seen the most often in the last 35 years is Dr. G. One day, out of the blue, Dr. G said to me, “do you know veterinarians have higher IQs then do medical doctors.“ I was surprised by his statement. If anyone would’ve asked me, I would’ve guessed that the IQ was about the same for MDs and DVMs. I asked him how he had come to that conclusion. He said that they were fewer veterinary school so it’s obviously harder to get to that school. Dr. G had previously told me he had a hard time with the statistics course in his veterinary school. After I heard his statement I wasn’t surprised that he had a hard time with statistics. How hard it is to obtain a position is dependent on how many people apply for that position. What matters is how many people apply relative to the number of positions. Many more people apply to medical school than veterinary school. So just a number of positions in the vet school or med school is not an indication of how hard it is to get in. When I had time I looked it up. Both veterinarians and MDs, on the average have an IQ two standard deviations above the normal mean. That is A score on the Weschler adult intelligence scale (WAIS) of about 132. I don’t really understand why people have to decide which profession is morally superior. I would say both MDs and DVMs are probably morally superior to many professions but I don’t see how you could decide we are whether DVM or an MD is morally superior to each other.

I'm in school to be a CVT. My grandma keeps insisting vets make a ton of money (because she thinks I should be one) I keep putting her in her place...easily half a million in debt for maybe 100k salary. Can you call her and tell her I'm right?? 😂

We will. Don’t you worry!

Love that

Agree!

Ayyye. Glad you like it!

As a vet student whow I'll likely go into small animal GP, I have so much respect for your largies and mixed animal vets! It's not easy for sure, so dangerous and so challenging. I love largies, but I don't think I could ever do the stuff you guys do. Keep up the great work!

would you be able to talk me something about how is to do a residency program in USA as a foreing?

@@edz6388 That’s all I do not know much about. I do know that we had interns and residents with work visas. I would assume, you would find the school you are interested at doing a residency at And have to apply.

@@DogDocLou thank you very much, that's very helpful to me. I know that residents have a payment about 30k/y, but a do t know if that's true for every single speciality.

I've never heard of a GP vet doing neurosurgery :O ortho maybe, neuro never :O

@@silmuffin86 that vet office was putting their hands into lots of areas where they shouldn’t have been placing them. They ran a 24 hour emergency vet hospital as well, I waited an extra hour for my dog to taken in at other emergency clinic because I don’t trust them, even though he was a true emergency was taken back right as soon as we walk in.

Got one coming tomorrow morning :)

Oooh, that would be a great video. Get an ER nurse v ER tech, and then general practice nurse v small animal tech.

@@delightdelirium1 I don't see how an accurate conclusion could be reached without some epidemiologist input if you wanted to compare how well each system saves lives or results in healthy outcomes.

I would love these answers, I feel life vet nurses do so much more than human

So true! I have a few questions though. Do you have to have a DVM degree to get into Veterinary Pharmaceutical? What's that field like and also do you think the pay is good?

@@breanamarksman5759 it depends on the jobdesk. Because I'm resposible for research and registration of veterinary drugs therefore it need DVM degree. Some technical service/sales position in veterinary pharmaceuticals also need DVM degree. For my position as regulatory affairs the payment is quite decent, but the real upside of it is ofcourse fixed working hours unlike vet practitioner

Leave. Seriously , you will never be happy

Congratulations! 😊

@@nltnlt1700huh?

Thanks! You too

tell me about it

Vet tech here, the hardest cases for me are the abuse/neglect cases and the financial limitation ones. It wrecks me every time we have a patient that we COULD save, but cannot due to financial concerns. There's something that feels incredibly wrong to me with regards to euthanising (for example) a foreign body dog whose owners can't afford surgery and medication , etc etc.

Genetics and financing

@@crowsong8097 This would have been us IF my cat was not insured. She dislocated her ankle in way that absolutely needed surgery to fuse it. Because she's insured it was promptly done and now she is totally fine. She can run, sprint, jump, grap and do everything. If you watch her long enough you realise one paw doesn't fold all the way inwards but apart from that you'd never know. But it would never have healed naturally, I saw the x-ray and the bones were miles apart.

😂 I know right

@@DVMCellini oh my gosh. I’m fan girling. Shoutout from stl!!

Wait no longer!

Lol

I was gearing up to argue that most vets experience it more frequently than MDs, but then I re-read gastroenterologist. I'll let you have this one! Ha