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Physics 68 Lagrangian Mechanics (3 of 25) The Partial Derivative W.R.T. Position 

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In this video I will show how the partial derivative of Lagrangian equation can be use in deriving the basic equations for free-fall, simple-harmonic-motion with spring, and coulomb's law equations.
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@LowellBoggs
@LowellBoggs 2 года назад
Outstanding! Instead of using bizarre examples like cycloids of balls rolling down oddly shaped hills like cycloids, you are giving introductory physics examples that can be easily understood by people who haven't had physics classes in a while. Thank you so much!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 года назад
Thank you for your comment. That was the goal. The show some simple examples that show how this technique works.
@philwesom8784
@philwesom8784 6 лет назад
i like the way you split a big topic into simple and clearly understandable 5 minute videos....keep up the good work !
@prabalbaishya6179
@prabalbaishya6179 5 лет назад
Yess!! He makes it so simple and easy to understand...
@mogray2418
@mogray2418 6 лет назад
Tank you for posting this !!! It has helped me out massively ... I find lecturers tend to rush through at a million miles per hour so I am so grateful you have done it in small sections !
@crehenge2386
@crehenge2386 6 лет назад
This concept is totally mindblowing! I love it! Also brilliant teaching!
@labinotuseini1509
@labinotuseini1509 6 лет назад
Born teacher , aproaching the best way to the problem , also very knowledgeable , every field in physics knows to its foundations, my brother learned for an exam in fluid mechanics , im learning in advanced mechanics ... God bless you
@srigowtham5215
@srigowtham5215 4 года назад
I like the way u teach us which gives complete clarity during the lecture
@BoZhaoengineering
@BoZhaoengineering 5 лет назад
I came to the Lagrange method because I am reading through structural dynamics and aero elasticity. Advanced mechanics are often introduced too briefly for me. Here it is very nice step to step approach to unfold Lagrange ideas. I immediately think of simple harmonic motions, provoked by this series videos. It is really not simple and they are analyzed at different level of methods from high school physics to a master degree program.
@zepallica123
@zepallica123 8 лет назад
thank you for doing these advanced mechanics and e&m videos they are so helpful!
@elegwaanzeze8546
@elegwaanzeze8546 4 года назад
I have learnt a lot in this classical mechanics lesson. L=T-V, Thanks. Waiting for Hamilton's Equations of motion
@chobes1827
@chobes1827 5 лет назад
Since kinetic energy does not depend on position we know that the derivative of L with respect to position is just the negative derivative of potential energy. And since we know that by definition potential energy is defined as the integral of force with respect to time and that differentiation undoes integration these results should be very obvious to anyone with a solid background in Newtonian mechanics and Calculus.
@IqbalHamid
@IqbalHamid 4 года назад
Consider F=ma for a body under acceleration. By analogy, for an electron accelerating within an electric field, surely F=qa? Would you not agree? But because an electron also has mass, there may well also be a component of force due to its mass being accelerated within the same electric field. So surely then, Total Force = ma + qa = (m+q)a? When we use the Hamiltonian in solving Schroedinger's equations for an electron in an electric potential -for example in a Hydrogen atom, we DON'T (if I remember correctly) consider similar elements of total energy within the Hamiltonian, seperately (ie: Total energy arising from position and motion the charge of the electron within an electric field PLUS the kinetic energy due to mass of the electron under motion). That is, we CONFUSE the two into one, within the Hamiltonian. What I mean is, when we solve Schroedinger's equation for the electron in a Hydrogen atom for example, our total energy is given by an equation which confuses effects due to the mass of the electron with effects due to the charge, to provide total energy in the Hamiltonian. In my view therefore, the QM taught to us at school and by extension, the work of Schroedinger himself, must be wrong (incomplete)! It also suggests, Newton's Laws are incomplete: Consider if it was possible to concentrate charge into a point, a hypothetical particle that is a pure charge with no mass. Surely that particle will experience a force in an electic field which will be given by F=qa. Applying Newtons's equation would suggest there will be no force. When modelling the electron, we should therefore regard it a a superposition of a pure charge with a particle of pure mass.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 года назад
If you perform dimensional analysis of the equation "F = qa" you will find that the units on both sides of the equation don't match and thus it cannot be a valid equation.
@IqbalHamid
@IqbalHamid 4 года назад
Michel van Biezen Sir, I concede. Thank you so much for pointing that out to me. I will go and think about this some more.
@drummondF
@drummondF 5 лет назад
These first three videos are great! I can't wait for the rest!
@op_timusprem
@op_timusprem 5 лет назад
I owe you all the money I ever make after graduating 😂
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 лет назад
No, no. Just glad we can help.
@collegemathematics6698
@collegemathematics6698 5 лет назад
you are great i like you.. More vedio of this proferor please
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 лет назад
Yes, we intend on doing that, but at the moment we are covering a lot of other topics.
@madancta
@madancta 5 лет назад
Mr. Biezen your lectures are really super and very lucid. I wish your videos on physics continue to clear many tough topics in physics such as this for a person like me. I request you to put videos on basics of classical mechanics such as what is generalized coordinates, degrees of freedom, constraints etc...Thank You..
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 лет назад
Yes, there are still a lot of topics we need to cover. (Time is our biggest challenge)
@adebowaleselere4254
@adebowaleselere4254 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this videos. But, I am not too sure about that columb's law. I think there is supposed to be a ➖ in the final equation.
@collegemathematics6698
@collegemathematics6698 5 лет назад
Wow.. You really explain it well.. Thank you very much..🌹
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 лет назад
We appreciate the comment.
@ThangNguyen-ss7dq
@ThangNguyen-ss7dq 6 лет назад
Thank you for the good work. Could you make some video about D'Alambert principle and Kine's principle about virtual Power.
@shrayammitra6447
@shrayammitra6447 5 лет назад
What are those
@followthedream1658
@followthedream1658 7 лет назад
u were awesome when i saw u first ..and u will be the awesome as u really are ..
@paulg444
@paulg444 3 года назад
it really is a solid explanation, I would only add that dL/dx is essentially a gradient of a scalar potential energy field and it therefore must be the force "field" for the system. That makes dL/dx easy. The other part d/dt of dL/dv is not quite as intuitive.
@avibank
@avibank 8 лет назад
Wow , so simple! Thanks
@DanGizzi
@DanGizzi 8 лет назад
keep them coming! these are great lectures
@saidioussama2837
@saidioussama2837 6 лет назад
Can you do a video on inverted pendulum please?
@carped18
@carped18 2 года назад
Just amazing what a way
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 года назад
Glad these videos are helpful.
@fernandomaron3498
@fernandomaron3498 6 лет назад
Thank you Michel.
@hadeelabbas917
@hadeelabbas917 6 лет назад
I am really thankful for you💜
@superphilschneider
@superphilschneider 5 лет назад
Hi Michel - I am enjoying your videos. As a chemical engineer, I often wondered about mechanics, so thanks for your videos!
@donegal79
@donegal79 4 года назад
error at 1:35. The acceleration due to gravity is -9.8, not +9.8. Otherwise antimatter being negative has been created.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 года назад
No, the value used in the video is correct. Thank you for checking.
@ShubhamSingh-du9yn
@ShubhamSingh-du9yn 6 лет назад
can you explain me why we are taking T - V .why we are not choosing T +V,
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 6 лет назад
That is explained in video # 1 in this playlist.
@eriknelson2559
@eriknelson2559 4 года назад
So, force (dL/dx) points in the direction of increasing "free energy" (T-V) ?
@matiassantacruz5487
@matiassantacruz5487 4 года назад
I love this, but why are we not taking the time derivative or the partial derivative with respect to x dot??
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 года назад
That is carefully explained in this playlist: PHYSICS 70 PRINCIPLE OF LEAST ACTION: ADVANCED MECHANICS
@Binancian
@Binancian 8 лет назад
Thanks for your Videos,they really helped me lot. But some of your examples are not so complicated as i've learned from the University. could you please make some more challenging examples,because the problems from the exams at the universities are more difficult. Such as virtual works by using d'lambert Prinzip in connection with lagrangian some sort of these.....
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 8 лет назад
That is the plan. As time permits I will continue to add additional examples. I am currently working on other topics, but will return to these playlists.
@nthumara6288
@nthumara6288 4 месяца назад
thank you sir
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 месяца назад
You are welcome.
@olivioarmandocordeirojunio8280
@olivioarmandocordeirojunio8280 2 года назад
Thanks a lot.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 года назад
Most welcome!
@leonardofidelcordovacastil6717
Many thanks
@muchmirulyusasetiaji6271
@muchmirulyusasetiaji6271 6 лет назад
like this so much, very helpfull
@danielc4267
@danielc4267 7 лет назад
Insightful
@Lime-ne3fd
@Lime-ne3fd 6 лет назад
Professor, why does this feel circular? How can KE and PE be defined for certain scenarios without using force (and by extension, acceleration) as their basis. Surely, we cannot just assume that the PE of a harmonic oscillator is (kx^2)/2 without using the line integral definition to derive it from Hooke’s law.
@hypernova4334
@hypernova4334 6 лет назад
Lagrangian Mechanics is a reformulation of classical mechanics. The Lagrangian is defined to be Kinetic energy minus potential energy. The purpose of the Lagrangian is to determine the future state of a system given sufficient initial conditions. Its primary purpose is no other. To use the Lagrangian to determine the future state of a classical system, we need to borrow some definitions of regular mechanics.
@arachan5280
@arachan5280 5 лет назад
so helpful
@johnjobs3027
@johnjobs3027 3 года назад
Superbly communicated. Many Thanks👍🇨🇦
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 3 года назад
Our pleasure!
@sunilkj6695
@sunilkj6695 3 года назад
Brilliant and accomplished thanks 👍
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 3 года назад
Glad it helped
@Physics-for-U
@Physics-for-U 5 лет назад
Thanks sir
@dontgetmewrong7354
@dontgetmewrong7354 6 лет назад
My God. It is amazing. Thanks a lot.
@Sans-d8z
@Sans-d8z Год назад
Thanks sir❤🙏
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Год назад
You are welcome.
@user-we4im5fy3j
@user-we4im5fy3j 2 года назад
مرحبا ان من العراق هل استطيع التواصل معك انا طالب ماجستير علوم فيزياء بحاجة إلى المساعدة
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 года назад
Welcome to the channel! Unfortunately, with my several jobs and a number of other responsibilities, I don't have the bandwidth to help individual students. I just don't have the time. Sorry.
@mohammedbrka3358
@mohammedbrka3358 4 года назад
thnks
@amitmodak21
@amitmodak21 6 лет назад
1:35
@RiaziMohandesi
@RiaziMohandesi Год назад
👏
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Год назад
Thank you. 🙂
@Leet.Time.
@Leet.Time. 4 года назад
Simplified the topic af
@stephaniedltc
@stephaniedltc 3 года назад
nice
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 3 года назад
Thanks
@ant1fakt
@ant1fakt 2 года назад
Rahmat 😀😀😀😀
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 года назад
🙂
@memetfilik7127
@memetfilik7127 3 года назад
there is not subtitles...
@saipraneeth2959
@saipraneeth2959 7 лет назад
Professor I have a doubt . Generally we write potential energy is equal to kinetic energy for energy balance. Why L is not zero in our case?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 лет назад
This is a different equation. L is NOT the total energy but the difference between the KE and PE.
@saipraneeth2959
@saipraneeth2959 7 лет назад
When we balance initial total energy and final total energy we ultimately equate mgy and 1/2 mv2 right . That results same as L
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 лет назад
The way you worded your statement, I cannot comment. Best just to look at the definition of the Lagrangian. Take a look at this video for clarification: Physics - Adv. Mechanics: Lagrangian Mech. (1 of 25) What is Lagrangian Mechanics?
@barryk00da
@barryk00da 6 лет назад
E = KE + PE L = KE - PE
@aman_xo
@aman_xo 5 лет назад
Who else is in high school watching these?
@puseletsophasha2914
@puseletsophasha2914 7 лет назад
These videos are helpful but blurry...
@mohamedconde3223
@mohamedconde3223 4 года назад
Bien!
@manojtmtomriddle1743
@manojtmtomriddle1743 7 лет назад
I love u
@johnstaf
@johnstaf 6 лет назад
1:35 apparition of ghostly orb on right of screen. :-) Yes I know it's only a reflection...
@michaelwang1730
@michaelwang1730 4 года назад
1:00 I think you forgot the square
@pramod_iitbhu
@pramod_iitbhu 4 года назад
It's nothing but F= -(gradient)U
@guilhemescudero9114
@guilhemescudero9114 5 лет назад
Classical Mechanics => solving problems is like building a house with a shovel, a hammer, concrete and wood, it works, but takes some time Lagrangien Mechanics => solving problems is like buildind a house on a computer, and machines build it. Conclusion : Newton => genius Lagrange => genius
@JohnnyYenn
@JohnnyYenn 7 лет назад
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@Justinsalehtv
@Justinsalehtv 6 лет назад
The high pitched beeping in the background of the videos always throws me off
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 6 лет назад
We kept getting interference from the nearby airport communication when we used our wireless microphone. We have since switched to the wired microphone. (Part of our learning process).
@mohammedbrka3358
@mohammedbrka3358 4 года назад
Thank you
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 года назад
You're welcome
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