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Pickleball! How Would You Do Against These Players Playing For 3.5 Gold Medals At The 2024 U S Open? 

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In this video players playing for the gold medal at the 2024 U S Open. They are playing at the 3.5 level, players 54-59. How would you do playing against them? Let me know by leaving a comment in the comment section below.
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@jondoh9025
@jondoh9025 Месяц назад
I'm glad you shared this Rory, I've played rec for about 2 years and after seeing this I think I'm a 3.75 because I do believe that I play better most of the time. I always wonder about that though, and I never had the context of the US Open to judge against.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Maybe you should play in it! Thanks for watching.
@Riker-ER
@Riker-ER Месяц назад
Thanks
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
@Hawkin.H
@Hawkin.H Месяц назад
Great video commentary. Kudos to the finalists! I don't see any knee brace so I think these fellas are in their best condition for 55-59 age bracket.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
I'm not a good judge of age, but I would think a couple of the players are older than 59. Thanks for watching.
@Hawkin.H
@Hawkin.H Месяц назад
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 Thank you. That's was my first impression but was afraid to ask.
@gregorygerlich6399
@gregorygerlich6399 Месяц назад
Not 3.5 players
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Thanks for your opinion and thanks for watching. They did play at the 3.5 level in the US Open in Naples, Florida and we're playing for the gold medal.
@MrBrad777c
@MrBrad777c Месяц назад
Im 51 and started this January. I just entered my first 3.0 mixed tournament and won 1st. One of the teams complained that I wasnt 3.0 and I felt bad but Im truly just starting out. I cant imagine overall that Im better than these guys but their play today…looking tired and slow…wud give me a def chance. The player in white on the near courts serve is suspect but I cant see it clear enough to be sure. It seems he makes contact near almost shoulder level. He def foot faults some. That said he seemed to be the best of the four that day. I think we need to remember this was a legit US Open Gold Medal game and that they were probably extremely tired by that point.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
I think they only played three other games in the tournament to get to the gold medal match. Not sure they were that exhausted. Thanks for watching.
@MrBrad777c
@MrBrad777c Месяц назад
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 Odd then. Sometimes players have off days. Hard to criticize when they beat out the competition for this skill level!
@tomfowlerwrites919
@tomfowlerwrites919 Месяц назад
Props to these 2 teams for competing in the finals. My doubles partner and I are both in the 3.7 range, and I think we could hang with (and probably beat) both of these teams. We do have a bit of an age advantage--I'm 50; he's 42--but I like our odds.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
You probably could. Thanks for watching.
@keithchasteen8593
@keithchasteen8593 Месяц назад
I think I could compete with either of these teams. Great for them both getting medals!
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
You probably could! Thanks for watching.
@Ed1956K
@Ed1956K Месяц назад
As a 3.0-3.5 player the biggest problem I have is consistency. One day I can play great and the next day horrible. As I watch these players on this day, I could probably play better even on a bad day, but I’m willing to cut them a break and assume they are having a bad day.
@margaretsmilligan9393
@margaretsmilligan9393 Месяц назад
I’m with you, I also lack consistency, very frustrating
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Yes, you don't always have your a game.
@mikesprau6149
@mikesprau6149 Месяц назад
Same here. My hands don't always do what my mind tells them to do.
@dennismoore9526
@dennismoore9526 25 дней назад
If they are 3.5 players, they had a very bad bad bad bad day.
@danjulius3887
@danjulius3887 Месяц назад
Can someone explain a reason for stacking on odd? Far team, left side (as playing) player serves as one?
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
One player prefers to play on one side of the court than the other.
@Vanessa-pe2xs
@Vanessa-pe2xs Месяц назад
People forget the "video effect." When watching pickleball, the play always appears 0.5 to 1.0 levels lower than real life. Watching myself, I look like a 3.0 player, but in real life, I'd like to think I'm at worst, a solid 3.7.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
You're right! Sometimes the video doesn't translate properly. Thanks for watching.
@AndrewVierling
@AndrewVierling Месяц назад
You can't blame video for drop shots that didn't even make it back to the net.
@Vanessa-pe2xs
@Vanessa-pe2xs Месяц назад
​@AndrewVierling Cut them some slack, It's 3.5 level..3.5 is considered beginner/ intermediate. You'd expect inconsistent play, especially with all the wind . I think we're so used to watching pros online, we forget what beginner level play looks like.
@phoenixeasyrider6026
@phoenixeasyrider6026 Месяц назад
I'm 72 and have been playing drop in recreational pickleball for 2+ years. Never played tournaments or DUPR events. This really looked like a pickup game at the park. I could ahve played in this match and been ok. It's funny how weird ratings can be. I have no idea what mine is, especially after watching so many of your videos? Maybe thats your point sometimes? No matter it's always fun!
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
That is one of my points! The rating system is flawed. You're only as good as the players you play against. Thanks for watching.
@jhayes67
@jhayes67 Месяц назад
I think I would be able to play against these teams and maybe even beat them depending on how well I play for I also have games like this where it doesn’t go as well expected.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
I totally understand what you're saying. Thanks for watching.
@rowdstar
@rowdstar Месяц назад
I'm unsure. I'm 50+ in age and play my clubs 3.0 to 3.5 courts and do very well. But all my tournaments at 3.0 I have an absolutely horrible record. And my dupr is 2.8, all set when I had only been playing a few months. So who knows what heat, tiredness, mental pressure and other factors took them to where the game does seem kind of "meh" for 3.5, gold medal play. Congrats to them for getting there!
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Yep! Thanks for watching!
@michaelnoe1195
@michaelnoe1195 Месяц назад
So to be fair it's always hard to judge players when you are not playing against them. I also feel that the heat, other games the same day and just other circumstances may be in play. With that said, our group plays at roughly a 3.0-4.0 at a similar age and I do feel like any of our players in any combination would give these players good games if not win. To be fair, we're going off local DUPR vs them at the US Gold Medal match. My congratulations to both teams on getting to that point!
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Yes. They do need to be congratulated. Thanks for watching.
@steveiannazzo5451
@steveiannazzo5451 Месяц назад
I don't think these guys are playing at the 3.5 level in this game but they got to the gold medal round at 3.5. I won't judge them based on this one and only game I've seen them play. Could I have beaten them in this game? I'd like to think so. Could I have beaten them earlier in the day? I don't know. I didn't see those games.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
The other two games were very similar to this one. I think they only played two other matches to get the gold medal match. There were 12 teams in the bracket.
@iKumala
@iKumala Месяц назад
They look tired maybe? Could be combo of hot sun and a long day because I'm 3.5 and would do better than the losing team at least.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
It is Florida in May. I think they only played three matches to get where they are. So it's not like they play all day long.
@nelsoni5390
@nelsoni5390 28 дней назад
Hey Rory, I am interested in playing tournaments. Do you have to play your age group? Or in other words, can I play with younger players?
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 28 дней назад
You can play with younger players. You cannot sign up for age groups that are above your age.
@shasta824
@shasta824 Месяц назад
This video came up in my feed and I thought the same thing. I asked my son if he thought I could compete with them. He said for sure, they look slow and make a lot of mistakes. Exactly what i thought. Still brings up my consistent question of is there a difference between levels at different ages? Are 3.5 18-35 players better than this? For sure! But how many 55-59 true 4.0+ players are there in relation to total p[layers in that age range.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
I have no idea. There are players in that age group and that are 4.0 players and are much better than this. I know. I play with and against them.
@user-mk3ks7sh1q
@user-mk3ks7sh1q Месяц назад
This group is deceptively better than they look on this video. Probably a little tired from a long day in the heat. But they constantly attempt to angle the ball sharply at every opening, the also deliver put aways on most sitters. Both of the guys in white hats are pretty good players and their partners are a lot better than your typical 3.5 player.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Thanks for watching and thanks for your opinion. I think they only played three matches on this day. There were 12 teams in the bracket.
@JerseyPickles
@JerseyPickles Месяц назад
Hello, is there a way to send you a video I’d like you to pick apart? (Namely: “Men’s Friday Championship - Game 2 - June 21, 2024”)
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
I found it and will be happy to do it. However, I am leaving town this week to play in a tournament. I'll try to get to it next week.
@JerseyPickles
@JerseyPickles Месяц назад
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 - fantastic and thank you! Best of luck with your tournament.
@davebaker3241
@davebaker3241 Месяц назад
I play in The Villages (Florida). I suspect our ratings may be a bit conservative. That said, they look like our 3.0 players.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
I would think that's probably right! Thanks for watching.
@robschaffer4369
@robschaffer4369 Месяц назад
This match answers my Q: US Gold is only for those who buy the plane tickets to enter. These guys aren’t even good 3.5 players.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
It can be a considerable expense. Thanks for watching.
@elliottfletcher4830
@elliottfletcher4830 Месяц назад
To answer your question, like yourself, and probably most people watching this match...I would annihilate them! As an advanced player in his mid 40's, not sure they could even return my serves. Good on them though for playing this great sport and doing so well in their division!
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
You must have a heck of a serve!! Thanks for watching and thanks for your comment.
@ALABOUTPICKLEBALL
@ALABOUTPICKLEBALL Месяц назад
I kind of had the same feeling, I hit 3 different serves and they would have a problem with each one(Topspin, extreme topsin, and side spin)
@elliottfletcher4830
@elliottfletcher4830 Месяц назад
I think even a short serve just past the kitchen and towards the sideline would probably even work due to the limited mobility on display. 😅. (Age and fatigue being taken into consideration here).
@jaimetarne9436
@jaimetarne9436 Месяц назад
They seem to be playing quite tired, which makes sense at this stage.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
You mean age?
@jaimetarne9436
@jaimetarne9436 Месяц назад
No, I was thinking the end of the tournament, outside, probably warm and humid. I can't tell their age but I don't think they were 18 year olds but other than that everyone looks younger to me.😊
@gongloui
@gongloui Месяц назад
That is a low quantity us open tournament if this guys can get to the gold medal round.i played for 9 months and consider myself a 3.5 player, i think i can easily beat these guys.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Well, it is what it is and these were the two teams left standing. Thanks for watching.
@silverdc5
@silverdc5 Месяц назад
i think both players near courts are using gearbox pro, in which they have no business using it, they have 0 control over it,11:31 the poacher was in the nvz, should have been a foot fault.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
That's a great point! Those paddles are designed for players at the 4.5 plus level. They are too difficult for lower level players to control just as you pointed out.
@ericbooya
@ericbooya Месяц назад
I noticed the foot fault too.. watched it about 4 times.
@CWK090
@CWK090 Месяц назад
The Ref in in a much better position to see a foot fault and didn't call it.
@daveandrew589
@daveandrew589 2 дня назад
The guy in black is carrying at least 40 extra pounds. He probably can't play in a low stance without significant pain. He looks tired, which is not surprising given his extra weight. The near team keeps hitting to the guy without a hat, who is killing them in the short game. It's very easy to tell which player on each team is the weak link. A little shocking that this is the gold game. Compare this to the mixed doubles 60-65 gold match also featured on this channel. No comparison.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 2 дня назад
You're right! No comparison as to the strategy the players in this game use with the strategy the players in the game you mentioned use.
@robertogarcia-ox4xz
@robertogarcia-ox4xz Месяц назад
3.0 max on my opinion
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Thanks for watching and thanks for your opinion.
@jondoh9025
@jondoh9025 Месяц назад
Looks more like 3.25 max but 3.0 average IMO. It's so variable based on where you are at, so I can see how they would be 3.5, although I play a lot better and I often wonder if I'm a 3.5...
@mrg7821
@mrg7821 Месяц назад
When I see that backhand serve (13:52) I wonder who they're copying. There's no particular spin on it and it's always short and weak. It doesn't win points at any level above 3.0.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Very true. Not a good serve.
@CWK090
@CWK090 25 дней назад
You definitely don't want to serve short in the court giving your opponents a free ticket to the NVZ but watch Ben Johns serve. He, like most professionals, are not trying to win the point with their serve.
@davidsanders5063
@davidsanders5063 Месяц назад
Looks a lot like my game! Maybe I am a 3.5? Maybe????
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Maybe so! Thanks for watching.
@Hawkin.H
@Hawkin.H Месяц назад
Was this video recorded or played at normal speed? It looked slow to me????
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Haha! Normal speed!
@Hawkin.H
@Hawkin.H Месяц назад
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 Thank you. Maybe, the video was recorded at a rate where it wasn't as smooth. I don't know the technical term. But, kudos for the submitter.
@CWK090
@CWK090 25 дней назад
Starting at 10:38, there are 3 very poor excuses for a Lob. Is it Christmas? Why in the world would anybody, repeatedly, lob directly to a player standing at the NVZ? Lob over your opponent's head. Move him back. The objective is, a ball he can't get to or at the very least, after he gets to the ball, he is way back in the court giving you the advantage. On the other side of the net, when your opponent gives you a gift like that, don't return the ball so it bounces in front of him. Slam it at their feet or as they did the 3rd time, hit it to where they are not. At 11:30, I love the poach then slamming the ball into his opponent's left shoulder. Well done! BTW, a 5.0 player would have targeted his right shoulder, chicken-winging him. Some play is 3.5 level. Some is less.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 25 дней назад
Great point. I am not a fan of lobs. Thanks for watching.
@GunnerstahlY
@GunnerstahlY Месяц назад
I think I could have won this medal game. I would consider myself a 3.0 player though. Maybe 3.3. A lot of unforced errors, very easy ones. No ready position, and very questionable play up until the 6-6 score line.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
I guess you had to be involved in the game to see how you would do. Thanks for watching.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
@tysonhartle2439
@tysonhartle2439 Месяц назад
I don't know.... I played pickleball in PE in high school and we had a net at our house and played almost daily, late spring to early fall. I have been to a few clubs where they play and to parks where these yahoos in matching shirts and shorts act like they are pro tennis players and honestly, they all would get smoked by any one of my friends or myself. I don't know what the ratings are or how this works but if this is supposed to be competitive top level pickleball, it's pretty sad.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
I just think the rating system is flawed. The play did not look like 3.5 to me.
@armstrongclan2
@armstrongclan2 Месяц назад
Maybe by the time they got to the finals both teams were very tired and didn’t play their best…
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
They only played three games to get to the gold medal match. Couldn't have been that tired Thanks for watching.
@thecontralawrian7575
@thecontralawrian7575 29 дней назад
How bad was the play in this tourney if this is a 3.5 mens Gold medal match?
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 28 дней назад
Good question. I thought the play here would have been much, much better. Thanks for watching.
@acarter2072
@acarter2072 Месяц назад
I'm a 3.5 and I'm pretty sure I could play with these guys.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
@dm11554
@dm11554 Месяц назад
You would expect longer rallies in a 3.5 gold medal match, instead of serve, return, net..
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Yes, I agree. I would have thought so as well. Thanks for watching.
@dmills7375
@dmills7375 Месяц назад
Game seemed to be pretty low energy. Like many have said, it’s easy to judge. We all think we look better until we see ourselves on camera. Let’s just say that the group (especially the guys in the near court) didn’t play with much sense of urgency. Never would have guessed a gold medal was on the line.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
It was! Thanks for watching!
@tatianderson911
@tatianderson911 Месяц назад
3,5????🤔They are younger than me, but not better. If they are the best in the group then how do the others play? 🤔
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Just goggle U. S. Open Pickleball final results and check it out.
@classsupport5678
@classsupport5678 Месяц назад
I guess because of their age they are 3.5. I would rate them under 3.0 just based on this performance
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Well, they were playing at 3.5. You're right though. Looked more like 3.0.
@vincek7227
@vincek7227 Месяц назад
Is this really 3.5?
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
That's the level they were playing in. They only had 12 teams.
@blombidobadila8084
@blombidobadila8084 Месяц назад
Terrible court, no room to move. Who made them?, quite bizarre!
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
No idea. Thanks for watching.
@Zooweebob903
@Zooweebob903 Месяц назад
These guys are 3.0s due no type of consistency or strategy. It’s just 4 dudes smacking the ball around.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Thanks for your opinion and thanks for watching.
@brianlane9534
@brianlane9534 Месяц назад
I guess 3.5 isn't as good as I thought.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Maybe not.
@ralphparker
@ralphparker Месяц назад
If there was 12 teams in the bracket, then have they already played 10 games. They may be worn out.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
It wasn't round robin. They played three games to get to the gold medal match.
@ralphparker
@ralphparker Месяц назад
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 I got in a tournament, men's doubles and then mixed doubles. I played 6 games in the first and 9 in the second. I was dead on the last two games.
@Vanessa-pe2xs
@Vanessa-pe2xs Месяц назад
​@pickleballpick-apart9787 it's 2 of 3 at the Open. They played between 6 and 9 games to get to gold. Also 4+ hours in the sun.
@jerryridder2062
@jerryridder2062 Месяц назад
I'm 68 and feel I can beat these guys any day of the week.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Maybe so! Thanks for watching!
@adamwilliams78
@adamwilliams78 Месяц назад
There is no consistency in any of these guys games. I’d put them at 3.0. If they are 3.5 then I’m a 4.0, and I don’t think I am.
@adamwilliams78
@adamwilliams78 Месяц назад
Actually they did start making some better shots toward the end, but i still think I’d do well against them
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
I'm sure you would. I think they lack some of the skills to be considered 3.5. But, that's the rating's system. Thanks for watching.
@ALABOUTPICKLEBALL
@ALABOUTPICKLEBALL Месяц назад
No way this is the gold medal in a 3.5 tourney. These guys are barely 3.0 players.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Sorry, but it was! It was at the U. S. Open in Naples, Florida. Goggle it.
@ALABOUTPICKLEBALL
@ALABOUTPICKLEBALL Месяц назад
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 I’m not doubting you. I’m just saying they need a lot of work to get close to 3.5.
@richardstiles5431
@richardstiles5431 2 дня назад
Not 3.5.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 2 дня назад
Thanks for watching and thanks for your opinion.
@bobelsholz5894
@bobelsholz5894 Месяц назад
Guy in black could elevate is game by simply getting into a ready position quickly. He’s lazy.
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
Not sure he's lazy. I just don't think he's not the most athletic. Thanks for watching.
@bobelsholz5894
@bobelsholz5894 Месяц назад
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 strikes me as just doing enough to get by.
@Cacheola
@Cacheola Месяц назад
Painful, cannot watch. Watching this puts me at a solid 5
@pickleballpick-apart9787
@pickleballpick-apart9787 Месяц назад
I hear you. Thanks for watching!
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