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Mine uses the .45 Cowboy Action Special (a very short .45 Colt) much like the original .44 Henry round. using a 160 grain RNFP bullet and black powder or BMZ to the bullet base makes a dandy load.
I see that in the US you can buy a replacement carrier for installation in .45 Colt chambered Uberti lever actions, that includes a cutoff device enabling the cycling of the .45 Colt Cowboy Action Special, finally solving the problem of how to duplicate the performance of the .44 Henry Flat.
This one was just a replacement for the percussion cylinder. On my gun no modifications necessary. I have a Kirst gated cylinder on my Remington, a little more work but more convenient to load.
Overall I'm happy with the Howells. In my case , the cylinder dropped in and worked perfectly. No modification of the gun was necessary . It shot accurately with 200 grain .452 lead bullets. On the minus side the gun has to be broken down to load and unload, which was not uncommon in early conversion pistols. The Howells cannot be dry fired without risk of damaging the firing pins, but they are easily replaced. I also have a Kirst for my new model Remington, that I like better. The gun doesn't have to be broken down to load. A cut has to be made in the recoil shield to load and unload. There are options for ejector rods. The Kirst is available for the 1860 Army, but it is more expensive.
Man, I love the old Colts. I'm stuck between a Howell and a Kirst gated cylinder for my 1860 snub. I think the Kirst better suits the Colts because of the gated cylinder. The Remington's cylinders come out much easier, making the Howell cylinders much easier and faster to swap/install. The Howell keeps the Colt looking original, though, which I really like.
I have the Kirst for my Remington NM Armys and it works great in all 3. Although you have to permanently alter the gun to cut the loading port it sure is convenient. The Kirst cylinder usually runs a hundred bucks more than the Howells and then you'll need an ejector for another $130. It's a nice unit. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a08xWa1CKyY.html
@@oldscoutgp I'll definitely be getting some Howells for my Remington. But I settled on the Kirst for the 1860. The modification is relatively simple and I decided to make it a designated cartridge gun. I'm opting out on the ejector as it won't fit on the 1860 snub nose. I'll just use a dowel or something to poke the cases out.
I'd say when it comes to those old Colts the best type of conversion kit is a Kirst with the loading gate. Imagine needing to reload when it counts on a Colt, especially an 1860, if using a drop in converter. Lol. Mid gunfight you're gonna brek out a mallet to knock the wedge loose and pull the gun apart ? Good luck with that, lmao. But when you speak of the Remington models, then the Howell's is the way to go. The Remington swaps very easily and you can go from cap & ball to 45 Colt and back again seamlessly. Kinda like Clint in Pale Rider. Ultimately it's personal preference. But those are my thoughts on the matter for what it's worth.
I would agree, it's like the first model Paterson's that had to be broken down to reload. I have seen period converted cap guns with no loading port, probably a gunsmith conversion. I like Clint's Pale Rider reload. Smooth, and he doesn't even look down at the gun.
Those grips came with the 8" pistol. Originally they had a US flag and Confederate flag on the other side. Fortunately, they were slightly oversized which allowed the flags to be sanded off. I used a variety of techniques to get the color I wanted. Thanks for watching.
I've seen those, they have gotten mixed reviews. I put mine together way before they were available and it works fine with the stock hand. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@jackwagonhoedown4114 I'm sure they do. Besides this 5 shot Howell's, I have a 5 shot Kirst I use with the stock hands. Haven't had any problems yet, they lock up tight installed on multiple guns. If I start having trouble, might look into the 2 step hand.
Yes you can. Howell's recommends Cowboy loads in their cylinders. Cowboy ammunition is loaded with lead bullets and either smokeless powder, black powder or black powder substitutes in a brass case. We do not recommend using ammo with a muzzle velocity over 850 fps/12,000psi.
It is a little confusing. The repo .44 CAP & BALL revolvers call for a .451-.454 lead ball. Modern .45 Colt bullets are .452. It makes for a perfect fit.
HAHAH nylon screw driver handle to get wedge out... My pietta 1851 both of them the weldge was SO tight.. not even a mallet could get them out.. i had to use a brass punch a 2 lbs hammer to get them out of the first time.. and in doing so i nicked the gun near the wedge so i had little silvery marks... SUCKS !!! i wanted to keep my gun perfect.. but oh well.. i cant help if pietta makes the wedges so large and pounds them in with a 10lbs hammer
@@oldscoutgp yea my steel pietta jams evrry time i shoot too.. first 6 shots its fine.. then after the hammer wont spin the cylinder. I have to pull the hammer and manually grab the cylinder and move it.. and each 6 shots i go through it gets worse and worse until its jammed fully.. the brass 1851 runs like butter though.. i dunno why this steel one does this though. It put a ring around my cylinder now too.. Its bs.. do you have any idea why itd do this why the hammer can apin the cylinder and it needs help to spin
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 I am not a gunsmith, but it sounds like your wedge is in so tight you don't have any cylinder gap to deal with BP fouling. Good grease on the arbor is also important, I use Mobil One synthetic. You might also try the subs like APP which produce much less fouling than black. Google, tuning a Pietta cap and ball revolver for a good article on trouble shooting your pistol.
@@oldscoutgp i use motor oil too.. but i just noticed the cylinder spins freely now. The locking pin under thr cylinder isnt holding anymor3. Took the gun fully apart. And the trigger spring is broken.. geesh man after only 68 shots and parts broken already.. gatta go to cabelas now and get a kit to replace this spring
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 Those springs are 6.50 at VTI. I don't know what year your Pietta was manufactured, but the newer ones are of much better quality than they used to be.
I've often wondered how they time that five shot cylinder to work in a six shot revolver. This will be a dumb question to all keyboard Ninja's but I'm just curious
@@keylostax This guy has made one. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Khf3k-CnHTw.html Always use lead bullets, leave no air space when using black powder. Be extremely careful with smokeless powder, 800 fps or less.
Yes, there is a conversion cylinder for the 1851/1861 .36 Pietta to .38 Colt. It is recommended to have your .375 percussion barrel relined to .357 to fit available .38 bullets. You could also use a hollow base bullet that will expand on firing to fill the oversize bore.
This would be a question you should ask google. Don't ask some random RU-vid guy who thinks he has to shoot BP rounds in a conversion cylinder.....that's just simple mindedness at it's peak.
@@Cambpro Yeah, I’m no longer interested in such a thing, but hey, I can ask any question I want. You waited 9 months to answer, assuming I didn’t already find an answer. Talk about simple mindedness!
