Pikes Peak Record Beaten: The Power of Electricity. | Pikes Peak Hillclimb 2018 

I think he could come back and beat his previous time.

He drove his car like a true Race Car Driver... Fearlessly!!!!!

entièrement d'accord avec vous, et je vais même plus loin je crois que cette course doit être réservée aux moteurs thermiques

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@@jeanclaudevillenave4484 n'importe quoi pk réserver sa prouve que encore une fois électrique à tous nike le thermique à juste le bruit de différence le bruit ne fait rien c'est les résultat qui compte moi une bagnole qui geule h24 elle prend une balle de calibre 50 j'ai parfaitement le.droit merde elle fait rien mdr 😂😂😂😂 le silence c'est aussi réserver

Stupidity is wasted on the lazy.

If you're referring to 6:22 , that's not the acceleration, rather, the video was in slow motion , and then was brought back to normal speed.

@@DrFreeeman Yep. In this day and age it's the lack of grip from the tires, not the drivetrain loss holding them back.

@@x808drifter Does electric cars have better tyres than ice?

We will have that for you! Coming up strong at you on our action day, next Monday! Stay tuned.

I hope you show the entire run onboard, uncut.

@@RedBullMotorsports I couldn't find it?

919 would demolish

Travis McCarty, ICE is a dead man walking, get used to it. The only problem is to scrap all the stinky, noisy, and damaging health junk, along with the spread like cancer petroleum industry will take time and fight.

They were to busy destroying Lewis Hamilton’s Spa record lap, as well as the Nurburgring record. Next stop: Goodwood Festival of Speed(but just for a demo run).

OH GOD YES

of course they don't, because altitude. In the same way, you will not see an electric car beating a combustion-engine car at sea level, before decades.

There are different crazies. The Dakar is pretty crazy. Yes the Isle of Man TT is pretty crazy...well I'm just not a fan of trying to compare crazy.

Average Picker: Perhaps. However I would still argue that on a personal safety risk basis, the Isle of Man is far more extreme. Many, many people have died doing that race. By comparison, Pikes Peak, while it is very impressive (those drop-off certainly are quite frightening to look at) it doesn't even come close to the danger of riding in the Isle of Man TT. Number of people who have died competing in the Pikes Peak race over its entire hundred year history: 6, and only two of them were in cars. Isle of Man, which is about the same age: 270. In fact, most every year has at least one fatality and quite frequently two or more. One year 6 people died. Indy is by far the most dangerous track for drivers. Followed closely by the Nürburgring. The next 3 are Monza, Le Mans and Daytona.

In 101 years of racing at the Isle of Man TT there have been over 255 deaths, not including spectators or members of the public. In 1970 6 competitors were killed, and then in 2016 5 racers were killed. Of the top three riders with the most wins at the Isle of Man; Joey Dunlop (26 wins) Died in 2000 whilst leading a race in Estonia, John McGuinness (23 wins) Is currently recovering following a crash at the North West 200 in 2017, when his leg was severely fractured and partially severed. He rode at the Isle of Man in 2018, but only for an exhibition lap as his leg re-broke 3 weeks before the race. He set an average speed of 115mph around the course, and Michael Dunlop (18 wins) Nephew of Joey Dunlop, Son of Robert Dunlop, who crashed and died at the North West 200 in 2008 during practice, Michael won the race the following day, after his brother's bike broke down, Brother to William Dunlop, who was killed earlier this month at the Skerries 100. It's not clear if Michael will return to racing, but many people are guessing that he is likely to return. The current lap speed record is 135.452mph, and the average race speed record is 131.7mph both set in 2018 by Peter Hickman during the Senior TT. And then you get the nutters who do it in a sidecar.

It's not a case of comparing crazy. It's a case of: Ok, The TT is the craziest. What comes second? Launching yourself to the moon on an office chair, or tying yourself to the back of a jet fighter, whilst punching a shark.

isle of man is done, it is super-gay rules now

Wow! Congrats VW, Romain, Travis, Rhys, and Mr Dallenbach. You are all great champions. Where else does LeMans champion meet Nitro Circus meet WRC great meet Hill climb legend? Only at Pikes Peak!

I love the new tech coming through - but Loebs run in the Peugeot was awesome to watch, that BANG on every gear change was incredible. Was suprised that all that tech only broke the record by 17 seconds though tbh.

They spend millions for this. So they won. It's logic. Every builder engaging with millions will win. This race isn't LeMans. The majority of the racers are car enthousiasts and thrill lovers.

The electric car would end up with MORE fuel at the end than it started with.

Barry PURKIS Lmao that is true

But it tastes so good.. 🤫

That's exactly what I was thinking!!

That is that flat hand-wavey gesture...

The same with power. Sometimes it can match 700 horses, sometimes you need 700 horses to stop it from driving backwards.

lool

Yes! I even think he could push the vw a little faster!

It is what it is

Ari's is better.

Any "record" after they started paving the Peak is invalid.

Well, i bet, Loeb with a far more modern car would break that record also, he is previous generations best rally driver after all, and times have passed and technology advanced since Vatanan, so car would have been far supperior anyway. You cant judge these things based solely on , if the road is paved or not, give same conditions and same car, then you would see the comparsion. Gimme the 208 in which Loeb rode up there, it would take me most likely +5 min at minimum, might even go up twice the time with me on the wheel.

En mass start. Biggest engine bikes first, then smaller bikes.

One of the best rallying/racing films made as well. Great angles, great editing. And this was long before the advent of GoPro cameras.

@mr Exia I agree and it's not because I'm his countryman, but he did it on an unpaved road. The film won the prize for best documentary film at the Cannes Film Festival.

This was a proper all-terrain race to the clouds, now the tarmac coating RV pussies have ruined it. Ari showed what all surface driving was about. Whenever there is a multi discipline face off, the rally guys always win.

Meanwhile, it runs of electricity on top and u have to tow it back down. Such is the problem of e-cars. No instant refilling. And expensive as F batteries when they die.

bikesbeersnbeats! What you want not everyone.

I love bikes and have been racing them my whole life but even I think they're boring on pikes peak.

Bikes would be so boring on Pikes Peak

The last record was set in 2013, road completed in 2011.

all I'm saying is any run over pavement will be faster that a run over a combination of pavement and dirt. and I'm also not so sure about this whole electric thing, Goodwood this year seemed to manufacture the hillclimb for the sake of publicity of electric vehicles, IE the field was diminished. just saying.

john murphy idk man. I dont see that way. plus yeah sebastian loeb held the record for 6 years anybody coulda came along and beat they do this every year in june.

loeb was the first to make the entire run on a fully paved road. and the talk was how the smashed the record.

john murphy: saying "smashed" is a bit misleading. In 2011, a record was set of 9 minutes and 51 seconds. 2012, the first year that the road was entirely paved only shaved about 5 seconds off of that time. I will grant that it is not the same race that it was in the past. Paving the road has made a big difference. But 5 seconds better than the previous year is hardly "smashed"

SVrider its much better now should be paved

Are you kidding? It's literally no different from any course in the world now. It used to be unique and a challenge, now it's nothing more than a smooth road. The true Record holders are the old boys like Tajima who went up the course when it required skill to not go off a cliff while sliding into a corner at about 100mph.

stuffanthings its still unique what other course is like this name's please

Literally EVERY hillclimb course or paved mountain road in the world

stuffanthings none are like this most others are anonymous this is infamous

405 Т16 - now that was the real Pikes Peak experience.

Antonín Vojáček Yeah, hybrids really are the best of both worlds. Specifically using supercapacitors to capture breaking energy and then punch out of the corners with an additional electric motor :)

Just imagine Le Mans: 8 min. into the race the car needs to be recharged for 20 minutes...

The one thing you forget is the internal combustion engine is only around 35% efficient vs 90%+ in the electric motor. So while energy density is higher in gas, does it really translate to longer range in terms of energy density? Right now, a similar effect to Morse law is applying to battery density, as we've increase density sky rocket and cost plummet. I think gas cars in general have a max of 10 years before they start to become hard to buy new.

Rocket Boards Nah, electric will never be as energy dense as gasoline because (please, EV enthusiasts, read to the end before complaining; I'm on your side, but there are facts to consider): 1. The oxidiser (half of the energy content) comes from the air, meaning you don't have to carry it around 2. The combustion products are ejected from the vehicle as they are created (again, meaning you don't have to carry them around) 3. As the gasoline is used, its mass is ejected (see pt. 2) 4. Batteries currently carry _all_ their energy content around. Air batteries are being developed where, like gasoline, half the energy comes from the air... but, unlike gasoline, the other half's mass will remain in the battery. This is a fundamental barrier to energy-mass density. 5. The physics has already been done, and it is impossible to exceed the energy density considering points 1 through 4, even taking into account the thermodynamic inefficiency of gasoline engines AND the phenomenon of regenerative braking unfortunately. Lithium is already the lightest, most mass-volume-energy dense atom you can store electric potential with (yes, hydrogen is lighter but it's also very volume-inefficient!). Air-lithium batteries are, to my knowledge, the highest we can go with chemical storage (they aren't working reliably, yet, as the lithium doesn't form back into the appropriate structure properly upon recharging it, but we'll probably get there eventually). Currently, we use a different redox reaction than with oxygen for lithium batteries, hence their mass (having to carry their air-equivalent in mass around with them). _However_ this only means that, if we can develop batteries that charge very quickly (like, the same speed it takes to fill a vehicle with a liquid fuel, or close enough to it that it is acceptable for the other characteristics), that we will need to recharge it more often than we would need to refill a gasoline car for, for the same distance. Is this an acceptable tradeoff? I'd definitely say so, considering the benefits (especially if the energy comes from solar - zero emissions but insane torque and overall performance). We aren't there yet, but we will almost certainly get there. And, the fact remains that the vast majority of people (civilian drivers, not industry) do not have driving patterns that necessitate very rapid recharging. If chargers are available at home and work and at parking places, this covers the majority of use cases _today_, and it will only get better from here. Now, for racing? They won't be suitable for endurance racing until very rapid recharging is developed. Until then, we have hybrids, fortunately, and they're wicked fast, so no complaints :)

Petrol's energy density is static, that of batteries is not. It keeps increasing.

Yes, I want to see the back seats

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Harm....1M

o0bananaman0o: already been done, in 2016 with their top of the line model. It didn't really do all that well at nearly 12 minutes. This year a hybrid Acura set did it in about 10 minutes. In 2015 a diesel Mercedes C300 also was faster. While initial acceleration of Teslas is quite impressive, they really can't sustain those speeds for very long. As I recall, even when you put it in "Ludacris mode", you are only allowed to do it either 3 or 5 times (can't remember which) before it has to be allowed to cool down. Plus it's a big, heavy car. Don't get me wrong, I think Teslas are awesome, but this really is not a good venue for them.

Ari Vatanen did it with the Peugeot 405 t16 in 1988 (and with the 205 t16 too in 1987), it was Walter Rohrl who did it with the Quattro S1 in 1987 Both winners in their respective years (Vatanen came in second place in 1987)

@@gian.4388 ya my bad. I actually meant ari's Peugeot and Michelle mouttons and rohrl's Audi A1. My bad mixed both things. But got damn were they awesome laps.

Efstathios Dimopoulos Yeah but on the Nordschleife you brake a lot less and there are more, longer flatout Sections. But it would definetly be interesting to see

i think it wouldn't be capable of breaking the 919 record , the nordschleife is a track with a lot of high speed passages and a very long straight . the big advantage of the high torque is exiting corners , the nordschleife has not enough hard braking and tight corners to benefits this cars advantages . but that's just my opinion ....prove me wrong vw ;-)

It wouldn't have the high altitude advantage at Nordschleife. It'd just receive a thorough beating.

Electric cars also have instant torque, no turbo lag, engines themselves are lighter (therefore most of the cars mass is closer to its center of mass and that makes it take less energy to rotate the car around giving significant advantage for hairpins) and you can control exactly how much power goes into each wheel.

@jt thorsson I don't understand why people hate electric race cars, they are faster, allow for more efficient use of power, give more opportunities to enhance driving, are quieter and friendlier for the environment. + are safer both on track and on streets. If you are one of those people who think drivers are supposed to be gladiators and safety is for pussies then i understand your point but i do not agree with it.

@jt thorsson We might be watching different sports then, which ones do you have the problem with?

@@harlisviikmae6240 electric cars are undeniably fast when configured properly. But they sound terrible. That's what most people miss with them

Huh? Are you joking? Gimme a break

The 919 Evo flies up there!