Confused Pilot Almost Causes Crash 

Hello i came here to hate on kelsey for no reason whatsoever!

Not going to lie it kind of gets to me when people say nasty shit to him because I don't think he deserves it at all. At least he handles it extremely well says a lot about a man that can laugh at himself

I didn't even know a rubber chicken could fly a plane. I guess that's what the computer is for, and the chicken just roosts in the pilot's seat to assuage the passengers.

@Kjtravels40 Salty, snarky Kelsey is my favorite Kelsey.

Hi Kelsey, the only links that can appear in a YT comment is a link to another YT video, channel or playlist…

It would be a great video - I'm sure both Kelsey and viewers would really enjoy seeing the ATC side of things.

Right after I finished my Instrument "checkride" I sent a letter to the manager of the Atlanta ARTCC in Hampton Georgia asking if I could visit the facility. This was in the early 1990s. I got a phone call from another person asking when did I want to come. I drove down there one Saturday morning and sat beside the "Commerce" sector controller for almost 3 hours. Several controllers worked that station. I even was allowed to "plugin" just like a controller but was told to be as quiet as possible. I got to see their weather setup and had a supervisor show me how the computer watched the controllers if they were allowing a dangerous collision to happen. Very interesting day I will never forget.

I been to ATC in Augusta when doing cross country flight to there, think it good Lesson for any students pilot to do.

Offer snacks and you will have a good chance of getting Kelsey's attention.

Just tell him about the sweeps, beeps, and the creeps. Also, hopefully Lone Starr won't give you the Raspberry and jam your radar while you're doing it.

That is so cool that you are with us! :) Best from Switzerland and keep it rocking! ~ Mad

Don't worry I'm a 34 year old man and I still don't understand half of what he says either but his personality is so good and he does get the gist of it across to us non-pilots :P

He is the kind of boy every mother dreams her daughter will bring home, isn't he? I love him : )

I understand everything he’s saying and would like to confirm you’re at the right place to learn in a polite, fun way! 👍🏼😊

I’m with you Sister 🤛

TY for your service! Appreciate it. Did you have an opportunity to mentor any of the brave early female fighter pilots?

@@rethinkcps2116 yes, when I was an FA-18 instructor in the early 90s some of the first female pilots to transition to that platform were my students.

Thank you for your service!!! 💙 My 21 y/o nephew is in the navy 😀

@@Msbrowneyes114 thank you, happy to serve! ⚓️🇺🇸

Just tell the pax that the flight attendants were momentarily possessed!

😂😂😂​@@silverhawkflash

Well it's better being in the ceiling than a victim of a midair collision.

LOL! Hate when flight attendants hit the ceiling.

You're not helping Kelsey's nervous flyer reassurance program!

and this why we have acceptance testing 😬

@@nicktecky55 Reality is agnostic to nerves

“In heaven, the food is French, the customer service is British and the cars are German. In hell, the food is British, the customer service is German and the cars (and planes) are French,”

Oh boy 😅 that could be bad

I think that would be great, too, but I bet they are under some extreme government regulations about never talking about the job or something.

Also, your comment checks out - you made no mistakes. 😂

When the guy in the video says his commenters make no mistakes, I'll take it as truth, despite the sarcasm I had to ignore, since I knew I wouldn't make a mistake in doing so.

Good idea 👍

Don't forget to ask them what their snack situation at work is like!

When you say check, are you referring to a technician fills, and you check over the script and make sure it matches? If so, man id love to be a customer at your pharmacy, if 3 out of that many is all that have been wrong per year. I recieve a weekly dispensed script, and it doesnt matter the pharmacy, they seem to make as many errors as they do right. Miscounts, wrong doses, reprinting past scripts, etc. The t/a is huge in my city due to the massive influx of student visa immigrants in technician programs around my area that barely speak english. Though it usually doesnt matter, the oharmacists themselves seem to be so disconnected that they just "check" the script and approve without really even paying attention - its gotten so bad i started checking over my script by counting pills and checking over doses inside the pharmacy myself...they used to blame it on my doc, though that doesnt happen now that I check inside the pharmacy.

you shouldn't listen to this man he is a FAKE pilot the only thing he is good for is blow jobbing his own poop.

I love his sense of humor, too! Something tells me I'd bet he could tell one hell of a good joke and I laugh my ass off watching his videos......and where in the hell on that map were the boundaries for the lax airport??

Yeah he is only a captain 😂

@@Superbus753 I think his 4th bars are fake just so people will think he's cool. I'm only joking. I'm super happy for him finally making captain. I wish he had been able to video him getting the promotion.

@@shadowprince4482 yeah i think it is really funny that he never ever said anything on a video that he managed to become captain. The first video he wore that forth stripe i was taken by surprise and went back and checked the video before because i thought i might have missed one video but nope.

@@Superbus753 I totally did too. I watched that exact video and afterwards I was like "wait did he have 4 stripes?" and had to go back and rewatch the video.

now he's been promoted to not even a real captain.

*a part 🤣

Yes Hes like a robot. He doesn't miss any details in these videos. I would have full confidence flying on a plane with Kelsey at the helm. That is, if he were an actual pilot/ captain/ airplane driver

Yeah, my first flight test the examiner was kinda stern and tense--I found out later I was like her 4th test ever. She did my MEL-IA test about 4 years later and was totally laid back and mellow. Failing a checkride for cutting 100 feet into the Class B, as shown on a handheld GPS, when it's impossible to tell on the chart or from the instruments in the plane that you did it? Woof. I'm never taking another checkride from that guy if I can help it. Examiner never even should have mentioned it.

@@frotoe9289 Depending how old the GPS was, it might only be accurate to 100ft! :D

This guy have one of the Highest production value of Any youtuber. ❤

forgive me, what's a flight surgeon?

@@dominicbrant1968military doctor on medical and repatriation flights

Yeah I'll fly with them!

A vfr tower is not able to assign a heading to fly, ever. Doing it in someone else airspace without coordination - that would be masochistic behavior.

@@YTsuuuucks I’ve heard a VFR tower controller give courses many times, inside the Class D space as well as nearby class G. But not in someone else’s controlled airspace. VFR Towers can handle IFR traffic and IFR clearances also.

@@RetreadPhoto Of course vfr towers handle ifr aircraft. Yes, they can even provide pilots directions and routes to fly. However in the US, they cannot provide vectors unless the D airspace is a designated TRSA also. Cannot radar vector without the use of radar.

The pilot actually handled it better than Kelsey is giving him credit for. He stated he only got a traffic advisory. He never let it get to the point of an RA, where the plane had to tell him where to go, which is why he was able to continue the approach.

Same! My first nickname at 6yo was ' Big Ape'🙄😃

Sounded like a challenge to me!

I can relate to that also; never been to a class reunion. The 45th is coming up next weekend and I will not go.

i held the flashlight for my dad so heard it all--he died of alcoholism when i was 16--went on to football champ,star player in hi school,then on UCLA--my mom was drunk in the stands,friends mom drove her home,i bailed her out of jail 3 times before i was 20 for dui--i never lived one day like them or even one hour--i am 72,might start drinking one day...btw--not one time did i ever hear good job son,not from parents,friends or bros,sisters,actually the opposite from sons,ex wife, bros and sisters who had their own substance problems,alcohol..beam me up scotty...

@@mtsky-tc6uwYou sound pretty darn bad ass, sir. Kudos to you for your hard work, and for doing right given the examples you had. Not many would have risen above. I hope you can find some good people to surround yourself with, at a bookstore, coffee shop, house of worship (even if you’re not religious) or wherever. Best of luck to you!

great story!

That is why they discovered the GPS system.

You sure showed him, huh? "Make sure you get his hanger keys, scarf, and jacket. Only infallible aviators allowed."

@@codymoe4986 It wasn’t his first time. He had a history.

I feel terrible for that atc controller having that on his conscience for the rest of his life. Yes he made a terrible mistake but it sounds like pilots were being especially reckless, perhaps because it was a holiday, so perhaps his mental load was taxed to capacity like you said dealing with the first guys (extremely dangerous, presumably) showboating.

@@ennui7778 True, the ATC did get distracted by the showboat and was so distraught that he left the job for an extended period of time for counseling, then he came back to the job and quit halfway through his first day back. As an ATC, you have to keep your aircraft out of trouble, but spending that much time on a showboat who drifted into restricted airspace cost about 100 people their lives. The best thing to do would have been to notify the showboat of his violation and quickly give him a heading. If he argues, call over a superior and hand that pilot off. You can't leave thousands of lives in limbo for several minutes because one man violates restricted airspace.

Hmmm 1986, five years after "saint" Reagan fired almost 12,000 air traffic controllers. How much brain trust was lost in that little stunt? How much did it have to do with this crash? The Reagan era began the assault on American workers. Demolition of unions were just one of thousands of straws that broke working class backs. Unfortunately evaporating prosperity for Americans has spread like a cancer into almost all job sectors. "Run it lean & MEAN!" is the cause for so much American dysfunction. During the 2017 Tax cut propaganda push, ATT promised to add 7,000 jobs. Instead, they cut 42,000 jobs, handed out lavish exec. compensation, binged on stock buybacks and profiteered even more egregiously on the American consumer. Then blamed Biden for inflation! Every homeless encampment should be named with the preface "Reagan." Kinda like "Hoovervilles" of the 30's. Welcome to the "Reagan Memorial Downtown San Jose Homeless Camp!"

I remember. I lived in OC but my Dad lived in Whittier. It was all over the news. It wasn't far from Cerritos Mall was it?

Even with TCAS planes have still collided midair. Specifically the crash between a DHL and a BAL passenger, where the DHL obeyed the TCAS while the BAL followed instructions from ATC. Both dived and collided killing everyone. Some people may remember this as the one where the Russian dad hunted down the ATC controller and murdered him. There was also a near miss between 2 Japan Airlines aircraft. One obeyed TCAS the other followed ATC instructions and both dived, the difference being in daylight the flight following ATC instructions saw the other aircraft and was able to avoid it. Injuries were indeed caused by passengers and flight attendants hitting the ceiling along with the drink carts.

That helps explain a lot

I failed to also mention that HHR controllers are not trained or certified as a radar controller, they can’t issue Radar control instructions. That takes a lot more training. Adding to that, their radar display is not certified to use to control aircraft. It’s not as accurate as our scopes. Theirs is used as a resource for general location of incoming planes. Anyway just info on why the HHR controller didn’t tell the pilot what to do; he did exactly what he is supposed to do.

Shouldn’t the LAX controller have noticed that Cessna busting its space earlier than a plane on ILS receiving a TCAS alert? Seems like TCAS should be a last resort, not an early warning system. Someone screw the pooch on the ground there?

​@@cherylkirkpatrick7094 Question - clearly after the IDENT the HHR controller had roughly an idea where the pilot was (possibly due a LAX notification of a beta violation?). Couldn't HHR have told them to reverse course without giving a magnetic heading? That would've at least minimized the immediate danger and interference. Of course if the pilot would have ignored it that would cost those few extra seconds, but at least any legitimate pilot would then know where to go straight away instead of just beta airspace violation.

@@MBSteinNL this is a good question. The HHR scope would show the ident, it sort of flashes on and off a few times. They can see the primary targets, at a distance around their airport. I’m not sure if they can now see the ADS-B info on the acft or not. But for sure he can see the ident at that location. Besides the previously explained radar usage limitation, and the legality of it, the controller has not been tracking that aircraft and has no idea of its heading. He could possibly turn the single engine airplane right into the Airbus. In a situation as this, it comes down to controller judgement given the info that he knows. I think I would have done the same as him in this situation. Although I’m answering this not knowing if the incident occurred before or after the HHR exchange, so am answering just with the facts that I know.

in my experience the best pilots are reluctant to tell you they're pilots lol

@@dominicbrant1968but don’t worry, they will.

Hmmmmm….. that is indeed a very probing question…….

I don't see how anybody couldn't like him. He's very affable and with that droll humor I'm laughing my butt off. Keep it up, sir!

@@KCLIBURN-mj9qx i think its called jealousy

Cleaning a cargo plane after a horse flight is like cleaning a crime scene. Horse urin is acidic and gets caught in the planes under structure. It requires a Lot of cleaning.

His airline has flown horses around Japan, and also flew pigs from Chicago to China. He might not have been aboard either flight, though.

Maybe the controller should ask you to call and have a chat? (Don’t know how it works, not a pilot. 🤷‍♂️)

Controller violates his own airspace :D. Do you still work that airspace? Will say hi when I'm flying around :)

@@MrXtachx right?! Lol, no I transferred down to SoCal TRACON and worked LAX Approach area,, but am now retired. The FAA won’t let us talk to airplanes anymore once we turn 56. They force us to retire. I miss it though, best job ever! On my instrument check ride, I completely blubbered my way through the first transmission to ATC. I remember that the examiner, knowing that I was a controller was laughing how I butchered the request to ATC.

@@cherylkirkpatrick7094 You should have just issued yourself a clearance into the bravo. - haha (kidding, of course)

@dave0351 I think I waited 30 days before I told them 😊

@dave0351 do you fly out of WJF?

Lol I backed out onto the highway on mine and failed it.

My wife grew up in Compton and my in laws live there, we’ve been to the museum and I love that they have all the helicopters with the doors open so I can look at the interior in detail

Wow! Very cool. I didn't know those existed.

Downside, you have to listen to the Airbus repeatedly calling you a retard every time you land.

Let's hope they've had a few decades and some non-fatal incidents so they've updated that software a few times. "Automation" isn't always better than manual.

🙃

"Ranga side up".

Remember Crocodile Dundee? What about Men at Work? Do you frequently put another shrimp on the "barbie"? Remember how criminals colonized the place, and kicked the aborigines off their land? Australian culture is really the best.

@@Truth_Teller_101 Where did you learn to say this sort of thing?

@@Truth_Teller_101 - a shrimp on the barbie? Only a Seppo would say that.

Can you please link to that series? It sounds interesting

@@elina35462 I think that Kelsey mentioned something about comments with links getting removed, so I'm not sure about posted the link here. However, if you just type in "Aviation 101" in the YT search bar, the channel should come up. The latest 3 or 4 videos are about him and his fiance flying out to Catalina Island and back. The videography that he does on his channel is really good, but he always throws in tips and lessons about flying which are quite benficial.

Fortunately getting to Catalina for me is easy while avoiding airspace. But I have only been there with my CFI (that was my day dual XC!). I'll go back and bring my girlfriend once I feel a bit more comfortable., maybe this fall.

Police drone, at night? How do you spot a little thing like that?

@@johnnunn8688 You don't spot it, you hear the crunching noise...

I laughed out laud. 😆

I wonder if that’s the same Citabria I flew in the early’80s. There weren’t many around SoCal. I wish I could remember the tail numbers. The one I flew later crashed into the Santa Susana pass during a low ceiling. Killing the husband and wife who owned it. My ex brother in law, the one who sold it to them, tried to get the salvage rights and make it airworthy again. But, there wasn’t enough left.

How did you see "behind" your airplane?

@@38Flyer Being an acrobatic plane(+7,-5g) it has excellent visibility. Yes, you can see behind you if you crane your neck far enough. Though, I wouldn’t recommend it!

@@38Flyer Small craft do have large rear view mirrors on the sides and one above the windshield, at least the Cessna 172's and [Cessna 2 seaters] I rode in several times in the 70's and 80s did.

@@38Flyer The Citabria has a glass or lexan section over the cockpit and I was in a slip; pretty good visibility aft.

Back in the day when I was taking flying lessons.... From day one I was flying in and out of Cleveland Hopkins Airport and really didn't think much about it until I talked with other students that were afraid to fly in and out of a major airport. This helped when I started doing overnight long cross countries both VFR and IFR. I went to Orlando with two other VFR pilots. We were all between the ages of 20 - 25 and took turns flying. We left Cleveland after dark and there was light snow, no icing, and the weather only got got better the further south we went. I was the only IFR pilot in the aircraft so we filed IFR to Cincinnati and the the rest of the trip was VFR. This was back in the 1970's so I don't remember all the stops we made for fuel but airport size wasn't even on the radar. We just charted where we needed to land for fuel. I can't remember if we stopped in Atlanta or not for fuel, but when we got to Orlando we asked if we could fly around Disney for a while and ATC told us what altitudes to stay in and to let them know when we were ready to come in. I got some great photos over Disney. They probably wouldn't let anyone do that today.

My husband has his license and we go to Key West a couple times a year and it's always nerve wracking and also amazing to taxi right behind a 737.

@@andreaski100 When I flew small aircraft, I gave the big guys lots of room.

make all your mistakes in rehearsal, you'll live longer

@dominicbrant1968 you're the kind of commenter he literally talked about in the video lol

@dominicbrant1968 what?

@@go-tocigars2363 keep flying, you'll learn what you need to know.... good luck

It's almost like... people think everyone on the radio will begin laughing and pointing or something.

What happens? I hope they would be understanding and helpful for everyone's safety

Our ATC was excellent knowing that our airport was primarily student pilots as it hosted two flight schools, also the tower was being used for training too, they also came into our ground school to teach a class and put a face to who we are hearing behind the radio, and the supervisor said it was his favourite job, from my experience ATC was above and beyond supportive during my time at flight school

that's the aviation version of "naturally blonde, please speak slowly."

@@kenbrown2808 All these years later and we find out it wasn't the natural blondes who were dumb. It was the dyed blondes all along. I believe we call them "Karens" nowadays.

I assume Chino for the museum? I'm flying out of Flabob.

Have you ever been struck by lightning? 😄

What a horrible thing to experience, especially as a young child.

Was that PSA 182 over San Diego in 1978? Thats the only crash I know of matching your description.

@@childofcascadiadid you watch the video?

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funny..dr jones landed later at Independece,Ca in a low level clouds,almost fog, coming over the trees at 2/ 5 ft above--when i talked to him he thought he landed at Lone Pine!!--his two nurses with him asked me to take them to bus pick up for trip back to LA --just shook my head,Doc admitted nothing...dead man flying

Glad everything went well for "Dr. Jones." But this reminds me of two incidents involving "MD's (not PhD's) who are also pilots." One got lost and disoriented over San Diego (I believe) trying to fly into the airport stemming from not being able to execute the turn to line up with the runway that the ATC asked him to perform. The other, flying out of KIWA (roughly my back yard... well my daughter's.) at night flew into a mountain. Neither survived.

Hey, not all of us doctors are jerks. I fly a 1973 cessna 182, and because I'm a doctor I don't fly a bonanza. I am prepared, courteous, fairly competent, and not egotistical. I am instrument rated and I stick to very reasonable minimums. I live by one overriding rule; don't stall the airplane. My flight instructor for my ppl initially didn't believe I was a doctor because I wasn't macho or arrogant and I didn't claim to know everything. You think doctors are bad? Try lawyers.

@@frankrosenbloom Hehehe... Um... Having worked for a large healthcare company for almost 30 years and having to deal with doctors in different capacities, I want to call BS on all of that. For starters, I did IT Service Desk (The people you call when you break your computer or jam the printer) for 19 of those. I now put together reports off the credentialing software for the Credentialing team. But I won't disagree about the lawyer thing. :D

@@jackielinde7568 I didn't say none are, I said not all are.

What if you're flying over the ocean?

​@@miller-joel What if you're flying during the night? 🤔

@@Roads_of_Europe Just follow the lights of the airplane in front of you, I guess?

This is what JFK Jr. did, and it didn't work out too well for him.