Pilot runs out of OUTS! | ICING Airplane | Airman Decision Making and living to fly another day 

As a CFII, I appreciate the videos where things don't go as planned, especially with weather. In my CFI training, the instructor said always remember that we are the prey and weather is the predator. You can die, and die quickly if you're not careful when flying into weather. I highly encourage all private pilots to get their instrument ratings. It wills save your life some day.

I’ve been flying for 37 Years and loving it and it’s great to seeing your family enjoying the PA-300 Piper Cherokee Six that I’ve always wanted to fly

Love this. I like seeing real flying experiences, so I know what to expect with my family and friends when I go fly to a destination. It helps me get mentally prepared with any possible challenges which I possibly haven't considered.

In a world of social media and selling people the happy stories, I appreciate the transparency and openness of this video. Subscribed!

Enjoyed the video. Thanks for posting and letting us ride along.

Priceless message. Great job on the content and production. Really enjoyed it👍🏻

This was such a comforting video to watch so I can know what to expect. Thank you so much for not showing the same old experience where its nothing but beautiful weather.

Loved everything on this video. Loved the commentary and how you made your decisions. Great job getting home

I love the Alan Watts talk you inserted right after takeoff. Brilliant! Looking forward to watching the rest.

I'm glad to see how quick you (and the man sitting co-pilot seat) were to identify and act accordingly to the unexpected icing conditions, and that you guys were able to execute a safe flight with a buttery smooth landing. Thanks for sharing the experience! I'm on instrument right now, and sometimes we forget some of the basics because we get so focused on the rating we're on, which is certainly an unsafe way to fly. Always refreshing and refining the basics of flight AND external factors such as weather - it's vital!!

I appreciate these videos! I learn so much and love that mentality of “it’s ok not to complete the mission.”

Well put together video, solid flying and ADM........

I was studying my pilot handbook and it was talking about ice conditions, so I thought I'd watch a video about it to more thoroughly understand the material. Glad I found your vid. It was great to see how you walked us through the approach chart. Loved that you had your family with you, so the stakes were high and your safety-based decision-making was readily apparent.

SO COOL!! Real life cross country experience!! Thank You! Have always Loved the Chrokee Six, solid as a rock.

I loved watching this video because it helped remind me of a lot of things that I learned from my Instrument. I can also tell you kept learned flows from your training into your daily flying. Great pilot 💪🏻

Wow, this video brings back some memories of that time so long ago, when I used to fly general aviation. This kind of stuff was always in the back of your mind when flying a trip during the winter months. Good decision not to continue pushing your aircraft and your flying abilities beyond your control, or the aircraft design limitations 👍🏻👍🏻

Very much enjoyed the real life flying and great decision-making! I personally know the potential tragedy of get-there-itis and am pleased that you didn't go there and that you didn't back down from safe flying! 🌟

Greetings from Australia, interesting flight and I applaud your decision making as safety is always the number one priority. ✈️🇦🇺

Gotta love the Cherokee Six! Whata workhorse. Great vid

Really enjoying your videos. Your living the dream sir! Liked and subscribed! Thanks for the intricate editing. I know it’s a pain. The IFR details are nice to follow along.

first time viewer here. New subscriber, well done. Icing is no joke.

6-Zero Alpha, another great video to include a great decision to land when dealing with the icing.

Good video and ADM. One thing my wife kindly pointed out to me while flying was how I react to the situations we come upon really influences her confidence in GA flying. For instance, “Whooo we made it!” May not be confindence inspiring. 😂

Good video. I am a grounded ppl and just loved flying with you. I wish that i could spend time in you six. I had a 235 cherokee and her and i spent many hours flying Ohio, Indiana, and Michigan. I really, really miss flying. My heart condition about 11 years ago put me on the ground. Thank you for taking time to video forbus that can't be with you!

Man this is a very underrated RU-vid Channel, keep up the good work!

Good decision making - even better outcome. Way too many times I (Com'l Inst ASEL), painted myself into a corner. My 45,000 hr father who soled in a Jennie, survived WWII and retired on a DC-10 told me..."A superior airman uses his superior judgement to keep himself out a a situation in which he might be called upon to demonstrate his superior skills".

I've flown that approach many times in my IFR training. I'm out of VPZ. Flown from CMI home many times over those windmills many times as well. Smart move spending the night. When the conditions are deteriorating, best to stop. I fly a fully de-iced 340A, and I don't like to fly into ice, and will either deviate or land if it gets much worse that you encountered. Be smart, live to fly another day. Better late than not at all.....

Glad I found your channel! We lived in Fort Wayne for years. Before moving to Louisville a little over 3.5 years back.

Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated 👍

Nice to see how you handle less than ideal situations. Keep safe, too many general aviation crashes.

Great video - superior judgment trumps superior flying skills ( not that you were short on that) good job😊

Brilliant vid, epically good quality production, sounds random I know, but I loved the background music, added a sense of drama and ties it all in brilliantly.

SPG is my favorite airport by far, love the approach, the restaurent has amazing views and the city is so beautiful. Awesome video, brings back lots of memories to me ♥️

Phenomenal content man! I live in the Wabash and was doing research on the cherokees and came across your video. You had me entertained every second. This is inspiring me to get my license and get into aviation myself!

Excellent video!! One thing I wanted to add from my own experience is the limitations of datalink weather like NEXRAD from your ADS B in. Datalink weather isn’t instantaneous. Some radar images can take as much as 15 minutes to refresh. And 15 minutes is a very long time when you’re looking at troubling weather ahead. Most big jets and more expensive aircraft have on board weather radar systems that are the most accurate. NEXRAD is helpful although it should only be used as a supporting tool. There have been accidents of pilots trying to thread the needle on their NEXRAD or datalink weather causing to mislead pilots into believing they are viewing current weather information.

That was a good outcome Captain Outs,,great flying Six Zero Alpha

G,day from Sydney Australia. I enjoyed watching the flying with excellent editing of radar and approach plates. Really good camera view points around the plane. 🌏🇭🇲

Been there in the mountains at night. Flew into a thunderstorm. One not on any weather brief back in 2005. I had just read an article on it. If that happens fly through it. I still can't believe I am alive today. Ice and 80 knot head winds. Auto pilot disengaged. Flight safety wrote an article called Ice in the desert about my survival. Keep real life decision making a show. Saves lives.

Hi from the UK. Really good video. I learned a lot from it . I also loved the Audio on your first departure. Very inspiring. Thank you for posting.

Your decision was greatly done

Congrats on hitting 1K!!

Great video! Just passed my IFR check ride two weeks ago. Great to see how real world scenarios can develop and how important it is to make a proper decision when weather turns to the worse. Great audio clip in the beginning. Was that Earl Nightingale?

Great video. Thanks for sharing.

This was outstanding! Great piloting !

Lived in Warsaw 13 yrs. Got my Private at KGSH. KASW Great little town. I put current Airport KFPR, meant KASW. The Fussels had a school there at the time. Anyhow enjoyed the video. A Good Pilot is always learning. Heard that somewhere. Mzero. 😎

Come on back to Smyrna anytime . That is where I am learning to fly! Hollingshead is a great FBO

Congratulations: everything done as we Pilots are trained to do! Know and respect your limits and know and respect your aircrafts limits! As a CFI I used to take my students into a adverse conditions in order to teach them proper decision making! How else can you know about those limits if you never approached them?! Keeping my pupils alive was my highest priority and I’m glad to know I succeeded!😁

nice vid, nice family, good decision ! I'd suggest you add more flight details like How many hours of flight, how much fuel you burned, How much weight you took on, CoG calculations etc etc.

Aviation and Alan Watts in one video.. perfect!

That shows truly airmanship knowing when to get on the ground instead of trying to outsmart nature. That keeps you out of the papers

I'm glad you all made it home safely. But no hard feelings ill stick to the car.

How does the saying go? "Better to wish you were in the air when you're on the ground than wish you were on the ground when you're in the air." Always keep that margin of safety!

Good decision. When in doubt, chicken out! My grandfather told me that numerous times during flight training.

Excellent aeronautical decision making skills displayed on this trip. I once heard the best safety equipment you have on the plane is your credit card. Better to wait out the wx on the ground than risk accident. Safe flying.

First time viewer of your channel. Great video of real world flying and decision making. I have a Piper Dakota and fly from KGMU to all around the Southeast but also fly into northern Michigan (KPZQ) a fair bit and run into similar challenges in November when I travel up for deer hunting season! Just hit Subscribe. 🙂

that take off with that voiceover it’s just perfect.

That's called freezing rain.. Check the FAR's on that.. You and everyone in that plane were lucky. Glad you made it home safely.

I am 46 and I have always dreamed of flying as a kid but life got busy and complicated so I havent thought of it till lately. I hear its never to late but a lot of people say that and dont really understand what things take. Glad your safe and will follow, your video was fun to watch.

The inspirational track about loving what you do instead of chasing money is fantastic. Where is it from? Love the video.

Great decision making!

Without watching the whole video I just want to say that it doesn’t matter if you made the right decision, the fact you made any decision and lived to see tomorrow is all that matters. Good for you for making the best call for you and your kids safety

Love the alaan watts speach in here, pure bliss with the view

Loved the adventure. Great vid!

Warsaw was one of my earliest XC when a student pilot 50 yrs ago in 576FL. Flew out of Fleet filed in Culver Indiana.

As a 3500hr pilot, I've been forced by unreported icing, to call it several times and dive into sketchy VFR several times. In a normally aspirated aircraft, sometimes you can't get over it and have only 1 option, dive to warmer air, especially in IFR arrivals. Set up for an IFR arrival and start loading up with ice....better to cancel the approach and dive for lower warmer air...NOW!

First couple of seconds is Albert Whitted Airport in Florida. Awesome airport to fly to and land at. First time I landed there was yesterday!

Thanks for video.

Wow! Airplanes and an Alan Watts lecture in the same video. Gotta be a first.

One thing I would like to correct. You mentioned gaining weight causing the AOA to gradually increase causing an eventual stall. The reason is actually because the lift coefficient is decreasing due to increased drag over the wing surface area. This slowing of the air flow increases pressure above the airfoil which requires a greater AOA to counter. Cheers!

Great content in this video. I would add that if the occupant of the front right seat would wear his shoulder harness, it would greatly increase his chances of survival following an off-airport landing. It would also allow you to comply with the provisions of 14 CFR 91.107 (a) (2) and (3).

student pilot here. don't know much yet but I know enough to know youre a damn good pilot

Thank you for this great video! May I ask who was speaking over the video in the beginning?

nice landing in the frisky wind!

Good job. Enjoyed the video. 🛫🌴🥥

Great little clip. More important great lesson and advice to many pilots. Like most pilot I'm sure, The question I get ask most is if it is hard to fly an airplane. My answer, although not meant to be all that funny often makes people think I'm being modest or am joking, when I reply that you can probably train a monkey to fly an airplane since it is really not to difficult. I of course continue to tell them that the difficult part is, and what makes a good pilot is the decision making while flying the airplane. That is the hard part. While many people just nod their head as to say they agree of course, occasionally you get asked to explain what you mean. Why would decision making be difficult, right ? You either go or you don't go. As effort less as that should be, as pilots we know that it proves way more challenging that it seems. But why ? Unfortunately many times pilots who are faced with a situation that requires them to make a decision may become victim of the positive reassurance or reward syndrome. Obviously this is more common and expected in general aviation but I have witnessed on rare occasions this to be true all the way to airline pilots. While we all claim to be super pilots and we always make safety our number one priority we run into those who certainly in their own mind believe they are doing so, but don't. By nature, most pilots have type alpha personalities and can navigate problems efficiently and provide a safe acceptable solution. That said, all to often those same pilots let all those qualities become overshadowed by their own will. When was the last time you turned on the news and heard them talk about exceptional skill of the pilot who cancelled or delayed his flight do to weather. You always here people calling a pilot a great pilot or even a hero after landing a plane that encountered some problem in flight, many times caused by weather, while you never hear anyone say how good the pilot who opted not to fly because of the weather was. Those days when one pilot decided to fly despite adverse weather and shouldn't of while the other pilot delayed or cancelled their flight, and despite the decision not to go was the safer and better one, in the eyes of the unaware the second pilot may appear to be the less skilled pilot. I have been a pilot for many years and assure you that flying a Boeing 767 is as easy if not easier than flying a single engine prop plane but the decision making is still hardest out of everything. In other words, i believe you demonstrated exceptional pilot skills by the decision you made not to continue on that day and simply delay for a few hours or even a day. Take care and be safe.

This guy is usually on top off all things

I just started training, with only 6 hours in so far. I love your videos. Was just wondering how long it took you to get to this point to do a long cross country.

I used to have that interior in my Archer. I miss it

Great video and excellent job Just too bad you couldn't have stayed in Florida

Seems like the correct actions were taken. With high gust landings i use less flaps

Great video. You might want to consider moving up from the PA-32 to the PA-46 (Piper Malibu). Incredible difference in performance (pressurized, FIKI, 1700 NM without refueling, serious weather flier). Almost always, I can top the weather at FL250 and most days your passengers are enjoying smooth, clear air. It’s so much of a game changer going over the weather system than trying to pick your way through it or fly under it. Although the operating costs are higher, I bet you would be surprised that they aren’t as bad as you think coming from a Saratoga. Something to think about for your family’s safety and comfort.

And some Alan Watts on top! Nice.

Thanks so much for your video, I’m also based out of Warsaw hanger 18A been waiting for my Cherokee 235 pathfinder engine to finish being rebuilt. Been 5 months but only 2 or 3 weeks left. Yah 😊 we should hook up!

Good job. Ciao, Marco.

Great flight. You’ve got one engine gauge that’s not reading well. Going back and fourth everywhere.. take a look at the time when you’re planning your last landing and look at your engine readers and you’ll see it. I’m not sure which one as I’ve not flown that Cherokee type.

What were you able to see in the precip forecast prep? What you described was an inversion with freezing drizzle which is pretty serious so I was curious if that failed to appear in available forecasts or AIRMETs.

I always say "Live to Fly another Day" .. Had to scrub a Cross Country Flight due to high winds at destination airports.

Awesome day in the life video. My personal minimums would have been to stay an extra day. Or airline home. Do t end up of any safety reports or RU-vid channels

You live in Warsaw!? I’m in Mentone and it’s awesome to finally find a local pilot via RU-vid. I would love to set apart some time to meet you as I’m a student pilot in Goshen at the moment and hopefully start to grow my flying family with you. Let me know if you would be willing to get together and maybe even tell share more of your experiences with me! In the mean time, I most definitely have subscribed!!! Thanks.

@6-zero-alpha Do you use the iPad mini or iPad pro?

Frost can bring down a plane. It's the change of air over wing.

Weight not really the problem as much as drag and interference with airfoil function destroying lift. Can also cause control surface movement problems. Weigh is very distant 4th in concerns.

Flying into unexpected icing really creeps me out. Wish there was some magic coating you could put on the plane to prevent Ice from being able to adhere and accumulate.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't icing a danger due to the airflow interruption over the wing rather than weight build up?

Even when tired after experiencing weather you should fill your tanks. Just an extra water in the fuel prevention

We locals pronounce Smyrna "Smuhrna" but otherwise great, informative video! Enjoyed it a lot!

Great narrator voice. I’d turn the music down a bit tho during the intro.

Where do you live in Indiana are you from the fort Wayne area. I just discovered your yt channel awesome

I am just curious in your reasoning on the decision to go lower instead of higher, you were at -2c at 4,000 originally at 6,000ft so you would have been around roughly -4c . You would have been able to escape the icing by going to colder air at approx 11,000. As 12,000 would have put it at -32c and you only need to get below -20c to escape icing. I heard you say in the video you had decided to go low before hand, so I'm just curious as you were closer to 11,000ft being at 6.000ft originally. It is never a bad decision to play it safe, espacially with family on board just curious.

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