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PinePhone Pro Hardware Update! The Camera! The Keyboard! The Wireless Charging Case! 

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I do an updated look at the hardware support on the PinePhone Pro about a year after launch. While the software has come a long way, it is still nowhere near the stability you would expect from desktop Linux.
The wireless charging case is extremely easy to swap with the default cover. It primarily differs from the original case in its thickness. The camera hole is inset instead of outset and the cover does not flex as much. Unfortunately, it was a bit ambiguous if the charging cover actually worked. There was no visual indication of charger, but according to the online documentation it is possible it was just charging so slowly it wasn't noticeable.
I next tried the keyboard accessory. It adds a lot of size to the phone to an almost hilarious degree. The only way the phone will fit into your pocket is if you have some cargo pants. Unfortunately, the phone did not show any battery status for the keyboard's battery. The keyboard itself also seemed non-functional. It seems the distro maintainers forgot to compile the support in in the current version. The keyboard also has the issues with the safety of charging accidentally from your phone, which may destroy the keyboard's battery. It is important to note that once the PinePhone is inserted into the keyboard, it is extremely difficult to remove. You will likely need a tool to help pry it out.
I last tried the phone's camera again. It now works! ...but with a strong green tint. It was fun seeing how the gnome ecosystem was used to create the functionality of photo previews and browsing the files. I it is definitely a start and was a showcase of what is coming down the line. Unfortunately, I later did a software update that broke the camera functionality again.
The main takeaways of the PinePhone are:
It's still extremely experimental. None of the sold accessories just work.
The software is nowhere near stable. You are likely best not installing updates outside of the releases as they often break the functionality.
In the case of Plasma Mobile, it will often make it become unstable and crash much more.
If you are thinking about buying this for the Christmas season, you should keep in mind that this phone and its ecosystem is still planted firmly in hobbyist territory.
#pinephone #accessories #camera #wirelesscharging #keyboard #linux #hardware #phosh

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@MahmoudAbduljawad
@MahmoudAbduljawad Год назад
Pine64 made the wrong call going with Manjaro which drives the device unstable in a flick of a "pacman". Basically, going with anything else could have had better overall scene to original PinePhone and Pro, IMHO.
@bitterepic
@bitterepic Год назад
Yeah... I love ArchLinux and pacman. But because Arch does not officially support ARM, I feel like its rolling releases model might not be best thing.
@wcdeich4
@wcdeich4 Год назад
@bitterepic @MahmoudAbdujawad @Better Epic Productions, does anyone know how to make a hyphen or "dash" on the pinephone attachable keyboard? I just got it and can't figure out how to make "-"
@hankscorpio42069
@hankscorpio42069 Год назад
Whenever I've had a problem in arch, it's usually been a matter of rolling back to the last stable linux and linux-firmware package version stored in pacman's cache, then if that works, I just get pacman to ignore updating those two whenever I need to update or install new packages. Not the best solution of course but maybe that might be worth doing.
@mateowoetam
@mateowoetam Год назад
They should use something similar to VanillaOS rather than Manjaro, specifically if they want it to go mainstream and be less breakable for new users. I do love the Phosh look though, keep that
@bitterepic
@bitterepic Год назад
We're still in the wild west of Linux phones. At some point things should start to become more mature. I'm just not sure how long that might be.
@Hero.pheonix
@Hero.pheonix 10 месяцев назад
It’s open source just flash vanillaOS to it if want it
@mateowoetam
@mateowoetam 10 месяцев назад
@@Hero.pheonix but VanillaOS doesn't have proper support for the device, I'd have to build my own Edition, which is outside my expertise.
@digitalpotato4867
@digitalpotato4867 Год назад
Thanks for doing your honest review. Even the fact that is buggy, I still want a pinephone haha. Happy Holydays I wish you the best for the future.
@bitterepic
@bitterepic Год назад
I don't have any real regrets about owning it! The price is right and it is helping mobile Linux development. It's quite interesting to see how the software is evolving.
@digitalpotato4867
@digitalpotato4867 Год назад
@@bitterepic I would have the same thought
@67comet
@67comet Год назад
Been hacking around on my PinePhone Uports version (way back in 2019). It isn't a daily driver by any streatch of the word, but it is fun to drag out and tinker on a little now and then. I was hoping over the last year that there would be a stable, usable release out of the folks working on this phone but it's still just a tinker toy (And I really don't want to go fess the $ up for the Pixel 8 but my Pixel 5 is getting long in the tooth). Love your vids, keep playing and recording it for us.
@gmasterdude
@gmasterdude Год назад
A must watch before buying a Pinephone.
@justintempus7406
@justintempus7406 Год назад
Just flex the keyboard case from the middle slightly and a corner of the phone pops right out allowing you to remove it.
@uet7417
@uet7417 Год назад
I need to try this, still have my archArm build from july - great video!
@valeriodeluca3391
@valeriodeluca3391 Год назад
Thanks for great video! Is it possible to control the desktop of PinePhone from PC or from another PinePhone?
@Zeioth
@Zeioth Год назад
I'm very, very tempted to get one as soon as I can.
@protocetid
@protocetid Год назад
long live mobile Linux and open phones!
@4ida
@4ida Год назад
For keyboard for whatever reason Manjaro basically broke driver. (I know it was working out of box before, then one day after update it just stopped) I remember running thing/utility from command line and then keyboard was working
@FuzzyScaredyCat
@FuzzyScaredyCat Год назад
Why didn't they just blank off the phone usb port on the keyboard cover. then there's no chance of anyone plugging the power into the phone when it's in the case.
@Roman-Pregolin
@Roman-Pregolin Год назад
This is a fun series as a former pine phone and pine book pro owner, not to mention my pinecil that only made the tip red hot no matter what I did (new tip, firmware... ). Have a pine tab 2 to mess with, hopefully less absurdity. Like 30 second delay between photos, wtf
@namelessman346
@namelessman346 9 месяцев назад
Well, if I want to use the camera in Pinephone Pro I gonna need to buy this extra hardware ?
@bitterepic
@bitterepic 9 месяцев назад
The camera by itself work fine. I was just demoing the other parts.
@MilesEdgeworth129
@MilesEdgeworth129 11 месяцев назад
I mean, it definitely looks promising for a developer smartphone. Granted, non-Android Linux phones are still quite a bit ahead of their time, there's not a lot of third-party support for the platform, and it's very much designed for only the "essentials" in a smartphone. But I could see this becoming as big it is in the desktop platform, given enough time, experimentation, and investments. I'd happily buy a Linux phone once they had successfully met all development criteria.
@cyberbillp
@cyberbillp Год назад
Yea, about the same results I had. When I tossed in in the drawer, it still couldn't even do MMS.
@bitterepic
@bitterepic Год назад
I haven't tested that lately, but it definitely was a mess. Might be good if I do an update on that at some point.
@TheGunguy461
@TheGunguy461 2 месяца назад
Are these available anywhere?
@ZaberfangX
@ZaberfangX Год назад
Never had any luck getting stable experience with manjaro, other then postmasketos and ubuntu touch.
@Marshall1914
@Marshall1914 Год назад
I been using Arch Linux Arm for a year now and haven't had any major problems since, Manjaro was just a massive headache.
@ZaberfangX
@ZaberfangX Год назад
@@Marshall1914 not to bad
@Marshall1914
@Marshall1914 Год назад
@@ZaberfangX imo pine64 made a mistake by going with manjaro as the os that ships with the pinephone pro.
@ZaberfangX
@ZaberfangX Год назад
@@Marshall1914 ah, I have not mess around my pinephone for abit I need to catch out how far other came along.
@zweiwing4435
@zweiwing4435 Год назад
Thank you for making this video. Does PinePhone Pro use Verizon services?
@andychow5509
@andychow5509 Год назад
I've had mine since October. I'm actually surprised how quickly things have improved. The thing has been out for almost a year, and the camera has started working. It also saves .raw files, and I'd be curious to know if those have the green tint. That said, I don't think this version will ever be used by me as a phone, as much as I would love to. Because the battery. The thing only lasts a few hours, and I have the keyboard, I'd say 4-5 hours tops. Well that's just useless as a phone. With the keyboard, that's 9000+ mAh, so how power hungry is that chip? I have an Oukitel WP16 with a 10600 mAh battery, and I can play RU-vid videos on that over 24 hours before it needs a charge. Maybe they will make an Android version that will be more energy efficient. GloDroid maybe.
@bitterepic
@bitterepic Год назад
I have a feeling that the hardware acceleration isn't totally there yet. If you just use it as a phone, the suspend seems to work relatively well for battery life But I don't think you can seriously be watching videos etc without being plugged in.
@JeffreyJohnsonC
@JeffreyJohnsonC Год назад
Is there not a separate gallery app?
@joelee24
@joelee24 Год назад
I understand it is a developer phone not for everyone, but I would invest on the Pine Tab 2 instead with that sum of money, and the Tab 2 seems to be much more usable.
@Wanderer2035
@Wanderer2035 Год назад
Definitely better form the last pine phone, but still needs alot more improvement
@keylanoslokj1806
@keylanoslokj1806 Год назад
Is it graphene os compatible
@gergelyf.3757
@gergelyf.3757 6 месяцев назад
touching all pins your finger...why ?
@petrklic7064
@petrklic7064 9 месяцев назад
What is weight of that keyboard ??
@bitterepic
@bitterepic 9 месяцев назад
It's relatively heavy. Probably about 1.5x to 2x the weight of the phone itself.
@petrklic7064
@petrklic7064 9 месяцев назад
@@bitterepic Thanks.
@bomeson
@bomeson Год назад
Attaching the keyboard with the phone switched on!??
@bitterepic
@bitterepic Год назад
Very good point. Incidentally, I'm not totally sure if I already destroyed the battery in the keyboard because I remember getting desperate to figure out how to get the phone to charge again early on when it still had major firmware issues.... should have read the wiki earlier.
@bomeson
@bomeson Год назад
@@bitterepic I did the same,,, ;-)
@Sqwert-g6h
@Sqwert-g6h Год назад
I would put Ubuntu on it instead. Not as frequent updates. Manjaro is Arch based, so it gets updates daily basically.
@bitterepic
@bitterepic Год назад
It's supposed to be one of the better experiences on mobile. I should make a video on it.
@Sqwert-g6h
@Sqwert-g6h Год назад
@@bitterepic I'd love to see it!
@mariofeared
@mariofeared Год назад
@@bitterepic Been using Ubuntu touch on my Fair phone 3+ for over a year now and it's been great. I'd love to see an honest review of UT for the pine phone pro. Especially since I've been wanting to go full open source with my hardware as well.
@bitterepic
@bitterepic Год назад
@@mariofeared Ubuntu is on my tryout list. It has a pretty good reputation for maturity. I'm going to have a review of Sxmo in Janurary. I should be able to try Ubuntu touch for the video after that. I kind of want to get the phone to a basic working state and that is most likely the ticket I'm thinking
@tiggydorset9041
@tiggydorset9041 Год назад
Ubuntu Touch was only good for Pinephone(original), not Pro about 8 months ago. I don't know if any progress has been made since then for compatability with the Pro.
@neilbedwell7763
@neilbedwell7763 Год назад
Love the outtro lol
@jerseydoe7995
@jerseydoe7995 Год назад
Will this thing work with Kali Linux?
@spicynoodle7419
@spicynoodle7419 Год назад
Do some research, hackerman. Nobody should use Kali outside of a virtual machine
@firenado4295
@firenado4295 9 месяцев назад
man Its sad to see this is so buggy. All I want is a phone with an actual keyboard. This is about the only thing like that on the market but looks like it not worth the candle since I don't think I can just install the mobile version of ubuntu or just regular android and use that since the keyboard wouldn't work.
@iamaboozer
@iamaboozer Год назад
Got Trashcan?
@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-
@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- Год назад
Become a hacker just to operate an open source non-spying phone.
@SniperUSMC
@SniperUSMC Год назад
Maybe next year
@tombouie
@tombouie Год назад
Thks
@NumbersCanBeFun
@NumbersCanBeFun Год назад
I didn't enjoy this video, objectively speaking the jump scare at the first part was pretty bad. Cut it next time and focus on the tech.
@softwarelivre2389
@softwarelivre2389 Год назад
That and the music is too loud, but I'm happy to see the Pinephone Pro news anyway.
@bitterepic
@bitterepic Год назад
Yeah, when trying to hit the RU-vid loudness I think I have been overdoing the volume. I think my next video after this is better for balance.
@alritedave
@alritedave Год назад
Still a WIP then lol.
@NoOneButRonPaul
@NoOneButRonPaul Год назад
Dude. You forgot to take off the plastic protector on the wireless contact board. You can see that you even move the plastic when you tough it here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LSFtYgg6ocw.html. Take it off and try again and it'll work. Please do another video. I want one of these and don't need to make phone calls from it. I just want to access thunderbird, discord, telegram etc, stream music without the screen on, or surf with it a two or three hours a day. It'll always be by a charger.I can use the commandline but can't code. And I'd like to send texts from it and use the mobile data.
@bitterepic
@bitterepic Год назад
REALLY!? I'm going to try that. Thank you!
@1991nio-mh6db
@1991nio-mh6db 11 месяцев назад
Bro i wouldve rather bought the phone and supported the company then watch this joke meme destroying all hope xD
@SFoX-On-Air
@SFoX-On-Air Год назад
These reviews are not meant to be comedy, aren´t they? Are they really still selling that .. ehm.. "product"?
@kusti420
@kusti420 Год назад
jesus christ why is that background music so god damn loud
@jvsa89
@jvsa89 Год назад
This Phone is made by people who hate Linux or love it to much that wants the rest to stay away from it.
@SereneRalts
@SereneRalts Год назад
Wtf castle based
@user-pn2xt3jw1i
@user-pn2xt3jw1i Год назад
Typical Linux experience :) Nothing new here, everything works as usual on Linux :D
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