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Pir and Toothy Battlebond Partners Commander Deck Tech 

Jumbo Commander
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Pir, Imaginative Rascal & Toothy, Imaginary Friend are new partners from Battlebond. They can also pair up in your command zone for to be a flexible and powerful team. They are playing around with simic mechanics that we are used to but that just means that they will go in a lot of decks.
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@moonstruckdrophd319
@moonstruckdrophd319 6 лет назад
Dang @JumboCommander, you don't miss a second.... and we LOVE IT!!!!
@chrisnicolella1641
@chrisnicolella1641 6 лет назад
Currently upgrading my Atraxa deck and so many of these cards have showed up in my research! Love the deck tech and love your videos!
@ZeroBankaiKing
@ZeroBankaiKing 6 лет назад
Honestly this set seems really really good. Can't wait for more!!!
@smargio
@smargio 6 лет назад
I was not excited for Pir and Toothy but now I am. Thanks Jumbo for this great deck tech.
@kieranjackson9017
@kieranjackson9017 6 лет назад
This deck looks amazing! Nothing like mega value Simic commanders. Keep up the good content!
@classicsidepart1477
@classicsidepart1477 6 лет назад
Holy moly!!! Saw the spoiler and began thinking about a deck... Meanwhile you not only came up with a super sweet deck but also made the video!!! Jumbo,you son of a gun ;-) Great work! Please keep it up! PS: need to put them into my Ezuri deck nevertheless
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Totally. In the 99 they are great because they have "draw a relevant card' tacked on. So amazing.
@classicsidepart1477
@classicsidepart1477 6 лет назад
Jumbo Commander totally agree!Besides that, Toothy's "leaves the battlefield"-clause seems super busted :) Wizards surely share my love for ridiculous Simic shenanigans!
@tommygrozier4789
@tommygrozier4789 5 лет назад
Pir and toothy with simic asendency
@dark_storm76
@dark_storm76 6 лет назад
Cant say I enjoy the art but the mechanics look fun. Keep the videos coming man! I cant get enough of your videos!
@theSuperCammyCam
@theSuperCammyCam 6 лет назад
I was just thinking of using them as my commanders as you posted this!
@onkelferno
@onkelferno 6 лет назад
Just built these guys' deck the other day after getting them at prerelease. Super sweet and fun to play and I'm definitely going to get some inspiritaion for brewing with them from this video! :D
@Xdylan3131
@Xdylan3131 6 лет назад
These two are going to be so good in atraxa counter shenanigans!
@nickcraft5552
@nickcraft5552 6 лет назад
Once again, Jumbo Commander is reading my mind. Simic value engine for life!
@VVhirl
@VVhirl 6 лет назад
I actually just made an Ezuri deck because with the new doubling season reprint and these two cards being so good in the 99 it felt like a great time to do so.
@keenansutherland2776
@keenansutherland2776 5 лет назад
some of the most fun and imaginative commanders and deck
@GuardianAngelEatos
@GuardianAngelEatos 6 лет назад
Great video Jumbo! Holy crud! These cards were spoiled just a few days ago and you already made this?! I gotta say Toothy is the cutest name I've ever seen on a Mtg card! After seeing all the valuable needed reprints spoiled the past two days and some of these new fun commanders, I'm very excited for this set! This feels like a Commander set like Dominaria! I hope Wizards keeps the valuable reprints coming! I might actually buy a box of this!
@Lockfin
@Lockfin 6 лет назад
Woo!! More partners!! Keep it up Dj.
@AffinityForCommander
@AffinityForCommander 6 лет назад
I can't wait to see what other partner commanders there will be!
@s7121n9s
@s7121n9s 6 лет назад
Affinity For Commander some are non legendary and some are planes walkers
@Zentenski
@Zentenski 6 лет назад
Battlebond looks like a whole treasure Trove of Commander-worthy cards. Might be getting myself a box...
@colinhofer7830
@colinhofer7830 6 лет назад
This Commander set is awesome!
@asinclair666
@asinclair666 6 лет назад
Amazing video as always my friend!
@jamesfitzsimmons462
@jamesfitzsimmons462 6 лет назад
This was a amazing video. Thank you
@guillermojrboy3292
@guillermojrboy3292 6 лет назад
That was quick!
@brcienpartin6138
@brcienpartin6138 6 лет назад
Love the vids. Be careful not to burn yourself out!
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I won't always do the 10 videos in a month schedule but I'll always bring you consistent weekly content. And then Battlebond comes out and I NEED TO MAKE 10 MORE VIDEOS CAUSE HYPE
@jasonL287
@jasonL287 6 лет назад
These two are definitely going in my Ezuri deck
@RaginKavu
@RaginKavu 6 лет назад
Great deck! Kudos on being that fast and making a deck already! The "downside" is that you gave me card ideas for my 'no-free-slot-availabe' Ezuri UG deck... Heh
@mattpaul8928
@mattpaul8928 6 лет назад
Made this deck right after battlebond prerelease. And most fun outta all of my decks. The look on my buddies face as smack for 31 commander damage is to fun.
@jerryguidry5464
@jerryguidry5464 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for this!
@sertaki
@sertaki 6 лет назад
This is certainly a nice +1/+1 counter Simic deck - getting a Winding Constrictor as your commander is a strong ability for sure. Up until the end I thought "hm, this looks fun, but is it really better than other commanders for this theme?" ... then you suggested Darksteel Reactor and I was sold. There is something special about a little kid with his imaginary pet monster bringing a nuclear bomb to the party because he thinks it's hillarious.
@thesquirteler4520
@thesquirteler4520 6 лет назад
Love the new music! Much better!
@purpleboye_
@purpleboye_ 6 лет назад
Pir and toothy are going stright into my Ezuri
@saulherrera4750
@saulherrera4750 6 лет назад
I have an ezuri claw of progress deck already, I'm sticking these 2 in there as an alternate commander option :P as part of the 99, as long as you have 1, you'll get the second one. That's pretty good :P now I can't believe you forgot Jumbo Commander, (or maybe I missed it) but by far, the best win con in this deck is Sage of Hours. My playgroup got so annoyed at how easily and consistently I got the sage at 3 counters. So good :)
@YanShum
@YanShum 6 лет назад
7:07 big surprise after these year! hahaha my was O.O! lmao. good Deck tech DJ!
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I think I'll break up the videos a bit more now. I never liked that I sometimes had you staring at some art while I spoke for a while. We will see as I get better at editing.
@worldthroughabucket
@worldthroughabucket 6 лет назад
Nice Video Jumbo! Hope we get to see a deck tech on Virtus the Veiled and Gorm the Great next. Have been tinkering with it, but I'm not quite satisfied. Would love to see your perspective on them.
@sertaki
@sertaki 6 лет назад
Jumbo, I hope you make a deck for the angel and demon lovers. Make sure to include some "tragic love" theme cards ;)
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I love their mechanics ... what would tragic love themed cards be? I'm good at mechanics and strategy; I'm not good at themes. Serra's Embrace?
@sertaki
@sertaki 6 лет назад
No idea to be honest, i hoped for some Jumbo surprises. ;) But whether or not - the mechanics alone are worth a video.
@jamaigar
@jamaigar 6 лет назад
Start // finish seems fitting
@like17badgers
@like17badgers 6 лет назад
I'd like to bring up Helm of the Host for Toothy, every turn you get another Toothy that builds up it's own counters, then when one pops all the other Toothys get bigger! also, the Contagion weapons, Clasp is cheaper, but Engine would put 4 of any type of counter on Permanents you control with Pir out. That's a lot of counters!
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Works pretty well with doubling season.
@sertaki
@sertaki 6 лет назад
This sounds really disgusting. I love it :D
@gastastrophe1092
@gastastrophe1092 6 лет назад
Like 17 Badgers cloning Toothy is just generally good. Playing a literal clone and keeping it to the legend rule gets a new Toothy with the same p/t and draws the cards.
@thelasttrueblade6684
@thelasttrueblade6684 6 лет назад
Helm on Pir is pretty sweet too
@patatechaude1918
@patatechaude1918 6 лет назад
then someone board wipe and you die by drawing your deck because it's not a you may ability.
@julesmartin6972
@julesmartin6972 6 лет назад
7:06 mind is blown. for years I always thought that brian david marshall was talking
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
It is BDM. I just hired this schmuck to pretend to be Jumbo Commander so I can throw more people off of my trial.
@NeberusBeta
@NeberusBeta 6 лет назад
I have a Ezuri CoP deck, but this video make me want to try that partners XD
@xelordragon4507
@xelordragon4507 6 лет назад
I saw pir and was like atraxa all the way
@rayward623
@rayward623 6 лет назад
HOLY HECK! I've never seen your face before.Nice deck tech.
@nerdywayfinder1827
@nerdywayfinder1827 6 лет назад
holy crap! I swear this is the first time I've ever seen jumbo's face....but he looks exactly like a mentally pictured he would!
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
In my experience, I fit the stereotypical magic player pretty well.
@eliandrew9139
@eliandrew9139 6 лет назад
Very nice my friend
@alexleblanc6364
@alexleblanc6364 5 лет назад
Given the presence of Doubling Season, Pir, as well as the proliferate spells/abilities: would there be any value in including As Foretold into the deck?
@zekah8446
@zekah8446 6 лет назад
Training Grounds, Gilder Bairn, Cryptolith Rite, Toothy, Laboratory Maniac and a flicker or sac outlet. GG guys
@aldagrim1039
@aldagrim1039 6 лет назад
I think clone effects like spitting image are an auto include too. You clone Toothy once he gets massive, let the original die from the legend rule, then the new copy gets all the 1/1 counters off of you drawing all those cards similar to how the flicker effects would work. Plus you can recast spitting image over and over by discarding a land card and repaying the cost, which is stupid easy if you keep drawing cards. And if you have Pir or one of those cards out that give it extra counters each time it enters the battlefield, it just gets bigger and bigger each time. Maybe even altared ego, which lets you pump mana into it to get more 1/1 counters and then gets all the 1/1 counters from the original Toothy copy. God, I'm gonna love building this deck!
@michaelpeachey2412
@michaelpeachey2412 5 лет назад
These guys are perfect for me Ezuri, Claw of Progress deck :O
@bobbyfasciano4137
@bobbyfasciano4137 6 лет назад
One time an 101/102 Gyre Sage with flying swung at me in a Commander Game once... I still have flashbacks to that crazy Vorel deck
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I bet everyone at the table was just glaring at the top of their decks with an internal scream of "REMOVAL! It's just a stupid elf that's killing me!!!"
@vennom14
@vennom14 6 лет назад
For a deck tech idea, would you be willing to look at the new Cyclops and homunculus partner commanders with a heavy chaos/coin-flip theme?
@Foofoothegoon
@Foofoothegoon 6 лет назад
Hey guys, an important distinction here that Jumbo didn't make with regards to Planeswalkers & _Doubling Season_ effects ( no offence Jumbo, LYLT) - _Doubling Season_ and similar cards specify that if a counter would be added to a permanent you control as an *effect* of a spell or ability you control, instead you add double that amount. Activating a Planeswalker ability has a *cost* of +X or -X, which isn't an effect. The amount you add or subtract from a Planeswalker's loyalty as a result of paying these costs would be entirely unaffected by static effects from _Doubling Season_ and the like. However, proliferating abilities, and a couple of Planeswalker abilities such as _Gideon, Champion of Justice_ would double the number of counters put onto the permanent, and _Doubling Season_ does in fact double the number of counters with which the Planeswalker would enter the battlefield.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Thank you. I should have clarified that point. It's nice that you explained the cost and effect difference. It helps people better understand the game. It gets so tricky because all of these things that manipulate counters all do it slightly differently. Cheers.
@snakeman830
@snakeman830 5 лет назад
And then Pir throws that off because he doesn't care why the counter goes on at all. A +1planeswalker ability becomes a +2 with Pir out.
@Xdylan3131
@Xdylan3131 6 лет назад
Something to clarify that wasn't mentioned in the video is that effects like pir and doubling season do not impact the amount of counters that are added when a pw ability is activated. It only impacts the amount they enter with and effects that manipulate the counters like proliferate
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
True! Thanks for the clarification. For people interested it's because adding loyalty counters is part of the cost of activating the ability NOT an effect.
@Pheebsgrease
@Pheebsgrease 6 лет назад
That was quick, it's not even out yet. Wow
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
More to come!
@Pheebsgrease
@Pheebsgrease 6 лет назад
Cool, I'm a huge fan.
@melindagreer4177
@melindagreer4177 6 лет назад
I'm sure this goes without saying, but Atraxa will love this.
@Philleous
@Philleous 6 лет назад
Cool vid! Will you be making another video featuring Regna and Krav? I'm so in love with this odd pairing!
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I like the look and power level of them as well.
@redundancycheck
@redundancycheck 6 лет назад
Vorel is just jumping for joy
@opendo2
@opendo2 6 лет назад
Scrounging Bandsr can also help with distributing the counters if its loaded with them first
@ItsDKoda
@ItsDKoda 6 лет назад
Kinda hoping the Angel and Demon Partners get a spotlight. They look super fun
@NicksMagicstorytime
@NicksMagicstorytime 5 лет назад
Great analysis. I like that you mentioned "flickering Toothy," but I'm not sure you spent enough time on just how powerful this is. I used to play a Simic "flicker deck" with Prime Speaker Zegana as commander with a bunch of blue and green ETB creatures, and the Maro creatures (P/T=cards in hand), which are all (except Psychosis Crawler) blue and or green. Anyway, a "flicker" spell like Ghostly Flicker could flicker Zegana and double my hand size if I had a Maro creature in play. I'd end up holding my entire deck and my creatures were easily 30/30+. I'd play a bunch of counter spells to protect my board once I had a huge hand. The two side-effects of the deck is that you need five or more cards in the 99 that give you no max hand size, and Zegana is seen as a threatening commander due to her potential size and card draw. So at one point I switched Zegana to the 99 and put Kruphix in as commander. This allowed me to rely on him and his indestructibility to give me no-max hand size, but required me to play tutors or "draw cards = to your largest power creature" cards to replace the accessibility of Zegana as commander. It played nearly the same but slightly better flying under the radar until too late for my opponents. Then Toothy and Pir dropped. I've just rebuilt the deck with the two of them as commanders. I no longer need the Maro creatures since Toothy doesn't care what my hand size is, and I need fewer "draw cards = to your largest creature's power" cards. I just need to flicker Toothy, and he draws me a bunch of cards and nearly doubles in size if Pir is in play. Play Conjurer's Closet and Deadeye Navigator of course. The early game is to set up with land ramp and getting the two commanders in play. They are not threatening at this stage, especially if your opponents have not played against the deck before. Once Toothy and Pir are in play, you just sit back and play defense. If a board wipe is played, counter it unless it is going to take out another problem. If Toothy is targeted with single target removal, you flicker him, draw more cards and double his size. You can put just a few win enablers in the deck to make sure you can seal the game. I play Laboratory Maniac, Thassa, Rogue's Passage, Time Warp, and Overwhelming Stampede (which turns Pir commander damage lethal too) cause you'll draw them after Toothy flickers a time or two. I still play a bunch of other ETB creatures, and Panharmonicon to take advantage of the flicker spells. Elvish Rejuvenator is my new favorite land ramper. I'm playing counter spells so Mystic Snake, Draining Whelk, and Torrential Gearhulk are no-brainers. I really love to Ghostly Flicker (or Displace or Illusionist’s Stratagem) Torrential Gearhulk and Toothy, to recast the flicker spell and do it a second time, maybe flickering another ETB creature the second time with Toothy again. I have the potential to Eternal Witness/Time Warp infinite turns combo too. I've also considered adding some Palinchron/Cloud of Faeries/Peregrine Drake infinite mana combos too (Thrasios), but I'm not sure this is needed. I play a few mana boosters like Zendikar Resurgent and Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant (which is super dumb) to lower the one limiting factor (mana). The deck is super fun to play, though not fun to play against (counter spells).
@NicksMagicstorytime
@NicksMagicstorytime 5 лет назад
Oh. Vedalkin Orrery, Leyline of Anticipation, Alchemist's Refuge, Teferi (creature) and the like that gives Toothy Flash are stupid good too. If Toothy is killed and returns to the Command Zone, you can immediately flash him back in play before his leave the battlefield trigger resolves and he is just as big as he was before he died. It is great when opponents don't realize this interaction. The look on their faces.
@steffenpabst3432
@steffenpabst3432 6 лет назад
Is it actually possible to play the second ability of the Zameck Guildmage, so that a creature enters with several counters?
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Oh yeah! Cool huh.
@williamgreen6814
@williamgreen6814 6 лет назад
Hope to see you make a Najeela Blade-Blossom deck soon. Also, RIP to my Samut and Zurgo warrior decks... (edited this 4 times)
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I will be making a warriors video soon. I'm sure excited.
@Level_1_Frog
@Level_1_Frog 6 лет назад
Is it just me, or is it weird that Pir is just a "Human" creature type? Like, not a "Human Rogue" or "Human Warrior"? I dunno, just seems odd.
@guillermojrboy3292
@guillermojrboy3292 6 лет назад
Aleks Mcallister Because 'Human Child' only exists in Un-sets.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Cloistered Youth is also just a human. So I guess the logic is that if you are too young you don't have a true class yet?
@sertaki
@sertaki 6 лет назад
I'm sure we will see him as a grown up shaman or warrior in a few years, but for now he has nothing but some natural talent that keeps him in the arena. No formal education, still kicking ass. Kid is going wild.
@Duranous1
@Duranous1 6 лет назад
They haven't printed a new human legend with no other subtype ever in modern magic.
@Level_1_Frog
@Level_1_Frog 6 лет назад
Jumbo Commander I guess that makes sense. I think it's just more of an optics thing that bothers me.
@feetoffthesky1
@feetoffthesky1 6 лет назад
What about explore? You get a 1/1 on toothy or the exploring creature no matter the outcome. Also how does the partner casting from the command zone work? Do I have to cast both at once? Where does the commander tax get applied if not?
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Explore sounds fun, good idea. You can cast either from the command zone if you want to and Commander tax is applied separately.
@SouixWarrior01
@SouixWarrior01 6 лет назад
Huh, I never noticed that Pir said counters on permanents, not just creatures. He definitely seems a lot better than I initially thought. I love the deck tech here with counters. I plan on brewing with these two in more of a voltron way with Toothy.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Toothy card draw voltron? Sounds pretty epic. I love it.
@wesbeach2381
@wesbeach2381 6 лет назад
Will and Rowan next?? I was thinking about a superfriends/spells matter deck with a slight imphasis on stealing opponents spells after seeing the newly spoiled "Stolen Strategy" but I'm curious about what your take would be! ☺
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Yeah, I'm also not sure about those two. They are not SUPER impactful in our format but you cannot deny the value of 2 planeswalkers. I'm looking at them carefully, your version sounds sweet
@sertaki
@sertaki 6 лет назад
I'm sure it would be great fun to play 2hg commander with those two at the helm of one deck each ... don't really see them do much in a non-team game though. They simply cost too much to cast in the same turn and if you space them out, they lose much of their synergy and impact.
@fastlad2027
@fastlad2027 6 лет назад
btw don't forget the cards like sage of hours or magistate's septor that let you take extra turns
@apock2474
@apock2474 6 лет назад
Could you do a Kazarov deck tech please?
@fastlad2027
@fastlad2027 6 лет назад
it's funny i ordered the cards for a vorel commander deck so these guys will be a good include
@ethican2
@ethican2 6 лет назад
Saw this pair and thought, yup they're going in vorel lol.
@hoojchoons6168
@hoojchoons6168 6 лет назад
I'm interested in the wording they have for "Partner with" because it doesn't say SEARCH. I'm curious if there is a way to abuse the fact that you're not actually searching. Was that intentional by wizards?
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I noticed that too ... I heard that it was just a language shortcut for the same old search and shuffle. It's the same action just a way to fit things on the card better.
@hoojchoons6168
@hoojchoons6168 6 лет назад
But errata-wise does this get around Strangehold? Will we have to wait till these cards are released to find out or is this a judge kinda question?
@coreyroberson4550
@coreyroberson4550 6 лет назад
The official mechanics article specifies that this is still a traditional search. So Stranglehold, Ob Nixilis, and Aven Mindcensor still affect it. It's really dumb that they left out the word search from the reminder text, because I've seen a lot of people sharing this confusion.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Really good questions. I think we'll have to wait.
@hoojchoons6168
@hoojchoons6168 6 лет назад
Thanks for the info Corey........I really don't get how/why Wizards made that choice. I hope they get vocal about that. I can envision a time in a Commander game where someone uses the "partner with" ability and someone else tries to use a "trap" card and an argument over if the player truly searched or not.
@pokeyclawz8727
@pokeyclawz8727 6 лет назад
Is it just me or does the link to the decklist not work? Also I’ve played a few games with pir and toothy proxied and I love them already, toothy can get ridiculously large very quickly
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
It works for me but I have had trouble with TappedOut links in the past. I'm glad you've tried them out. I think that they have the ability to be really fun together.
@jensklingenmaier1745
@jensklingenmaier1745 6 лет назад
Battlebond is Off the Hook (*-*)
@codelicious6590
@codelicious6590 5 лет назад
So with the partners from Battlebond as Commanders, do they both go in the command zone or how does that work if only one can and the identity is restrictive to the other partner?
@xXCaZaManXx
@xXCaZaManXx 5 лет назад
They both go in the command zone(because of this main deck is 98) and you choose which commander is affected by anything that refers to a singular commander, unless it refers to multiple commanders
@xXCaZaManXx
@xXCaZaManXx 5 лет назад
As well as each being treated seperatly in terms of commander tax and commander damage
@mannyramirez5630
@mannyramirez5630 5 лет назад
Does pir's effect mean you get more -1 counters when you play against hipatra?
@yoricktop8649
@yoricktop8649 6 лет назад
you forgot to mention that unlike doubling season the +abilities of walkers also make an extra counter with pir, which can be a big thing
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I could be wrong because the Battlebond rules release has not occurred but my gut reaction is that Pir will not allow you to add additional loyalty. The reason why is because adding a counter is the COST of activating an ability not an EFFECT and paying costs would not be subject to Pir. I'm sure WOTC will clarify this stuff in a couple of days.
@yoricktop8649
@yoricktop8649 6 лет назад
Jumbo Commander We'll see it in a few days then, but unlike cards like doubling season, Pir doesnt say it needs to be from ability, it just says that when counters would be placed you place 1 more, so i'm optimistic.
@jasonburge
@jasonburge 5 лет назад
Can you have Toothy, Imaginary Friend by itself separate from Pir in another commander deck? I would like to make him my lieutenant in my Locust God deck.
@shayneweyker
@shayneweyker 6 лет назад
I think Pir and lots of arcbound creatures with modular could be cool. Durable Handicraft, Lifecrafter's Gift, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Verdurous Gearhulk, Song of Freyalise, and Darksteel Forge and some other stuff to really make the arcbounds worth it. Free counter moving is fun.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Agreed. The thing that makes me sad is that my favorite fabricate maker - Marionette Master is out of the color pie. I am experimenting with a mardu list that uses some modular stuffs. Great idea!
@shayneweyker
@shayneweyker 6 лет назад
Oh yeah, Triskellion, Helix Pinnacle and Ashnod's Altar, Kark Clan Iron Works and Scrap Trawler too for some non-combat ways to win.
@benrichardson5662
@benrichardson5662 6 лет назад
Pir and Toothy basically means you have Calvin and Hobbes in your command zone. Seems like a good enough reason to play them in my book.
@thrasherftw
@thrasherftw Год назад
I just got the secret lair because of the art and it giving me that feel. Excited to build this deck, checking out a 4 yr old video tho, probably been dozens of new cards since then.
@christianfeldtmann6571
@christianfeldtmann6571 6 лет назад
Next Deck-Tech about Will/Rowan Kenrith, pls. Let´s hear about the duo PW-Commanders and some spell slinging
@willlozinak5182
@willlozinak5182 6 лет назад
damn this whole time i thought wedge was voicing this channel
@thedarkone246
@thedarkone246 6 лет назад
If you had two forgotten ancients and an effect that would give you x2 counters or +1 counters could you essentially move them back and forth from one to the other and gain infinite counters? Or am I thinking of this wrong....
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
You can get A LOT of counters ... but you can only "redistribute" them once a turn. It's a trigger that although very complicated and has a lot of actions is still just a single trigger.
@thedarkone246
@thedarkone246 6 лет назад
Jumbo Commander ahh that's what I was thinking but it was worded so funny I wasn't quite sure.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
You're right. It's a trigger that makes sense when you just do it but if you had to break it down into rules speak it gets complicated. Does it target? (It doesn't) Can people kill the creatures in response to counters being added? (they can't because you chose as the ability resolves). A lot of problematic things that I don't think WOTC would have if they printed this type of card again.
@jundsheep7599
@jundsheep7599 6 лет назад
Can you do a deck tech on Will and Rowan Kenrith?
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I'll try. They are interesting and I have more "good stuff" ideas than a real strategy built around them right now.
@sagehatch7733
@sagehatch7733 5 лет назад
You should make a new +1/+1 counter deck with all the new simic cards.
@Kuronosa
@Kuronosa 6 лет назад
o.0 How long did you have to brew this?
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I did it on Sunday. It really helps that it's not really a NEW strategy. But when you go quickly like I did you are bound to miss stuff. I missed the importance of "leaves the battlefield" at first.
@raymonddwigans4766
@raymonddwigans4766 6 лет назад
AWESOME I HAVE THE SAME SHELF IN MY ROOM LOL
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I really hate the company that sold me the shelf .... but the shelf itself is quite nice
@sneakycreeper1482
@sneakycreeper1482 6 лет назад
Please do Gorm and Virtus next, pleeeeaaaaseee
@lilymelodie7128
@lilymelodie7128 5 лет назад
my pir and thooty deck is voltron and it's very good
@RylanBones1
@RylanBones1 6 лет назад
Don't forget the proliferate subtheme here - a simple contagion clasp can put an extra counter on ANYTHING, then it gets another from Pir, then it gets another from all the enchantments you have, and this is repeatable for four mana. Four mana for EASILY four +1/+1 counters on toothy, probably more, yeah I'll take that deal any day of the week. Don't forget that proliferate is a Simic theme so you can throw in a thrummingbird, inexorable tide, core prowler, and basically any other proliferates you want except for atraxa. Also, the value of contagion engine is insane in this deck. Pump everything you have by bajillions of counters, then do it again? Yes, please. My thought is, if you have a contagion clasp and a contagion engine on the battlefield, drop a planeswalker then use all that sweet mana that green has let you ramp into to instantly give it, like, thirty counters, then use its ultimate on the turn that it's dropped. Oh, and as if that wasn't enough, proliferate doesn't just target your board. You can play politics. somebody else has a planeswalker? Make an alliance. Somebody you don't like has a single -1/-1 counter on a creature? Kill it with status-based effects. Proliferate, hands down, needs to be in this deck.
@xakuyer
@xakuyer 6 лет назад
Have a chasm skulker, make your toothy leave the battlefield, and double the counter with Pir. Oh yeah !
@MrEvan1932
@MrEvan1932 6 лет назад
This set is a disgustingly gross & dirty set, this is really gonna shake up commander. These new decks are gonna be a PAIN to play against
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
You said that they are "a pain to play against" you mistyped. I think you meant to type "MAJESTIC TO PLAY WITH!!!" ;)
@nickcraft5552
@nickcraft5552 6 лет назад
Are we sure that "Partner" and "Partner with" are the same thing? They have different reminder text. I wont be surprised if the Oracle text specifies that these "Partner with" cards do not allow you to have two commanders but instead specifically reference a teammate-player.
@nickcraft5552
@nickcraft5552 6 лет назад
oh, never-mind. I got the article on the wizards site talking about the intention for the keyword.
@b.radical
@b.radical 6 лет назад
This is exactly what I was going to post, the "Partner with" mechanic is intended for use with Two-Headed-Giant, not Commander, in fact the Battlebond set is a Two-Headed-Giant set, NOT a commander set. (thus some of the effects say "team" in them, like Pir)
@igniteaxiom
@igniteaxiom 6 лет назад
yes that's exactly what we need is another card that makes planeswalkers even more busted. like atraxa superfriends wasn't annoying enough.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I have noticed that Atraxa superfriends pulls a lot of hate where I play. It can be difficult to win if you are the archenemy but Pir and Toothy are so good in that 99. And with more doubling seasons in the world we need to really focus those Superfriends players or else they will dominate the late game.
@igniteaxiom
@igniteaxiom 6 лет назад
every game i play vs atraxa superfiends becomes a game of archenemy, and they still usually win. it's a shame too, since atraxa can be used to do some many cool things and everybody just plays superfriends.
@generalawesome7279
@generalawesome7279 6 лет назад
I wish that atraxa super friends was the most annoying deck in my stores meta. Atraxa is defiantly not the nearly the best deck in my meta.
@thebowtieguy777
@thebowtieguy777 5 лет назад
Important miss here Flickering toothy while pir is out DOUBLES the counters Works great for clone wars Clone toothy and sac original Draw Buff clone Repeat
@destenwoodham2598
@destenwoodham2598 6 лет назад
Please make okaun and zndrsplt chaos filps matter
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Guaranteed
@destenwoodham2598
@destenwoodham2598 6 лет назад
Jumbo Commander this is gonna be awesome!!!!!!
@nickmominee9432
@nickmominee9432 6 лет назад
You should put goblin game in here for a little bit of fun
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
@lawfullyblind8403
@lawfullyblind8403 6 лет назад
What no divinity counters? I'd rather have them in atraxa.
@Darwingreen5
@Darwingreen5 6 лет назад
Don't forget Master Biomancer, that'll mean Toothy will enter with at least 2 +1/+1 counters on it every time it flickers back into the board. gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=420827
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
So fun ... so much card draw! This is all I have ever wanted.
@snakeman830
@snakeman830 5 лет назад
No Inexorable Tide?
@maxmclinn2929
@maxmclinn2929 6 лет назад
Or you can just have a laboratory maniac out while you have toothy and generous sponsor 😱😱😱
@maxmclinn2929
@maxmclinn2929 6 лет назад
damn it, never mind, the counters have to go on a creature I don't control
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I can still see Lab Man in this. The card draw can be insane if you get an engine going.
@maxmclinn2929
@maxmclinn2929 6 лет назад
I FOUND IT!!! Leech Bonder attached with Paradise Mantle, while having Lab Man, Fathom Mage, and Toothy. Tap Leech Bonder to add blue mana with Paradise Mantle, untap and spend the blue to activate Leech Bonder's ability of moving a counter from one creature to another. Move a counter from Toothy to Fathom Mage Triggering card draw giving Toothy another counter. Just Rinse and repeat until your library's empty and you win the game!!!
@thanegriggs3044
@thanegriggs3044 6 лет назад
Pir and toothy in atraxa
@Matteo_the_Plague_Doctor
@Matteo_the_Plague_Doctor 6 лет назад
I haven't watched the video yet, but don't you think you should have waited till the rest of Battlebond has been spoiled to make this video? There might be some really good cards in the set that are like windmill slam-auto includes in this deck.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
You are correct. But this is the curse of content creation. I assume I'll have 4 videos on battlebond so I need to get one out so I can get the other ones done. This is mostly cause I do this in my spare time after work. Hopefully, the comments section can point out really awesome things I miss (cause I'm sure I'll miss things).
@matheusassis2972
@matheusassis2972 6 лет назад
I think i will trade my simic commander deck... zegana is going to 99 and put that guys as my +1 counters commander
@DAORosto
@DAORosto 6 лет назад
I just binged a lot of your videos and noticed a pretty common theme of not relying too heavily on your general, which is great advice but also sad. For that reason, I would love to watch you build with Squee, The Immortal, and do the opposite! Squee is so unique and is, as far as I'm aware, the only commander that you can consistently rely on, no matter what. I had a lot of fun building a Squee combo deck but I would love to see what you'd come up with, since I feel like I haven't uncovered all of his potential yet. Thank you for the great videos! Here's my Squee deck tappedout.net/mtg-decks/squee-shenanigans-2/?cb=152756749
@joeg6419
@joeg6419 6 лет назад
"Purr"
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