I've had these on my VW Amarok for over 30,000km now. It's handled high-speed twisty mountain roads, black ice and torrential rain on tarmac, mud, snow, wet grass, sand, gravel and high speed dirt road better than any other tyre I've owned. Sure my previous BFG's may've been a little better offroad, especially in muddy terrain but these Pirelli's give up little there to be excellent for 90% of my driving surfaces. There's at least another 20,000km on these tyres. The on-road performance as an AT tyre is the standout feature. The turn-in and rapid direction change handling is better than many HT tyres. I'm hooking this car through mountain pass roads from everything to bone-empty through to hauling 3000kg on the towbar. I regularly haul 700-950kg in the tub down 100kph country roads. I love this tyre and they're going straight on my wife's Ranger the day their OEM Bridgestone HT's are worn. Interesting that "wet grass" is called out in this review. My BFG AT KO2's struggled on icy/snowy/wet grass in my paddock. I slid down my highest paddock for about 400m in those. Same hill in the Pirelli's I at least had the ability to stop with my brakes, not the creek-line fence like I did in the BFG's.
I’ve had them on my 2002 Ford Expedition for the last 1 1/2 years. I’ve driven accross several states with little to no noise, through about 1- 1 1/2 feet of snow with no problem, off roading through some mud, some sand and through up too about 3 feet of water. They handle very nicely and haven’t let me down yet when off roading through some sketchy situations. I love these tires!
I'm a tire tech in akron ohio, and let me say, I'm extremely picky about my tires since I do this everyday. I had a set of Michelin defender Ltx on my 2014 f150 2WD and I was happy with them, but being that our snowfall often exceeds 12 inches I was wanting more traction. I bought these tires for the premise of wet and snow traction and because pirelli designed these tires for 90% on road usage and the other 10 for wet and snow traction (and they can hold their own offroad but not like some other tires in the category). The snow traction on these is very good, probably the 2nd best I've had next to a blizzak. But the thing that impressed me the most was how quiet they are. They were marginally louder than my defenders, which as you probably know is one of the most comfortable tires out there. If you're looking for a good all around tire I'd highly recommend these scorpions. The only downfall is the slightly lower treadwear warranty, which is reflected in the price. I'll definitely be getting another set when these wear out.
Honestly the bfg ta ko2, duratrac, nitto ridge grappler Cooper at3 all these get alot of attention but I feel like this pirelli scorpion AT+ is a dark horse and a surprise tire because watching other videos on youtube people who drive with them on ice and deep snow and mud have no complaints at all. They truly are a fantastic all terrain tire
My only comment is, your channel is the best. I learn something every video. I am putting the Pirelli Scorpion on my F150. It weighs just under 5000 lbs.
Great info, thanks. I just ordered a set from Costco for my 2015 Ford F-150. Great to hear your endorsement and with other research I've done. My buddy has K02s (they're everywhere) and they are noisy on the highway and wearing quicker than they had hoped. I got 80,000 km out of my Goodyear Wranglers which have worn well and included 15,000 km while towing a 7,000lb RV. I was pleased with them, but they weren't the best in snow. I am looking forward to putting these Pirelli's to the test and doing a review in the winter.
@@scootsmcdoots80 tires are working great during the winter, good grip on snow and icy roads, if you are thinking on buy them go ahead as they really worth the price, definitely I would buy them again
@@ZMOA2006 Got them also on my 2020 RAV4 XLE AWD. I have it on 17s. Great on dry and wet like you mentioned. No snow where I am at. I love them but not a fan of the road noise at certain speeds. How is the road noise for you?
I went with the 10 ply option for my 2018 Toyota 4-Runner, so far I'm impressed with them. Quiet on the highway and solid for the off-roading I do. Hopefully they perform well this winter in NB Canada.
They kept me stuck to the roads last winter just fine. However, there is a difference between them and dedicated winter tires. I'll likely switch to winter tires for this coming winter, for the extra peace of mind.
I’ve had these on my ‘14 Cherokee Trailhawk for almost 2 years. I love them. Occasional off-roading, 2 off-road trips in Colorado and every day commuting. I’ll probably get another set when these are worn out.
Now after some km's I can say tires is AWESOME and unique-perfect balanced for all conditions. Much balanced than any other similar AT's. I try 10 similar top ATR tires, this AT+ beat all of them! Top balanced tires ever. Very smooth, very quiet! And without compromise in safe driving. This is must important. Great. Really great tires. Highly ...highly...highly recommended. Probably next set of tires is also the same ScorpionsAT+. On dry and wet is fantastic! I can't believe ABS not go to On!! Nothing! Wow. Car is only stop and stick like glue! BTW. What a difference! (with other tires have many problems with similar wet conditions, Scorpions AT+ is really best) Highway-top! Offroad is - Wow! Now I know what is " power without control is nothing". AT+ have all. ; of course, and honestly, I hope that in future versions I hope that the sidewall will be strengthened. But, since these are new tire compound technologies, I can only pay attention and test them in future trips and see how is "strong" or durable At+ tire and how it will behave on slightly more difficult off-road roads. In my case I have XL version plies tread: 2 poliester, 2 steel + 2 nylon sidewalls. Max.psi is 44. Well....time will show the durability of the tire as well as the types of roads on which it will roll. We'll see how behaves as time goes by ....
I have this tire. 2002 nissan pathfinder se 5 spd. Great tire so far! Does very well in deep snow and it's better on the road then most all terrain tires.
Question for you mate. On wet roads/hard rainy days would you prefer these pirelli scorpion AT Plus or the Yokohama Geolander AT go15? We have been getting hit with a lot of hard rain this summer and I'm in need of new tires soon. Which would you recommend driving during rain 🌧️⛈️
I am torn between these Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus and Bridgestone's Dueler A/T Revo 3 in 265/70R17 for my 4Runner TRD Off Road. As you mention almost 95% of the time will be on pavement with a good deal of highway driving. Which would you recommend? BTW you produce some of the best content - very informative and non-bias - thank you.
Been running these two winters solid on my 2016 Subaru Forester in size 225/65r17 stock hight and its great! Highly recommended for winter in Southern Ontario. Also did some snow off roading and it performed great!
I feel for your average sUV driver the softer side wall is better , the stiffer sidewall from my experience gives a harsher ride , I had falcon wildpeaks they were to harsh and noisy for me , but maybe if you do 70% off road then yes no problem
These are really nice tires, you mention the weak point is the 2 ply sidewall but you love and seem kind of biased in most videos towards the Continental Terrain Contact AT which has the same sidewall rating.
I’m waiting for my 2021 f150 to be delivered and I’m looking to upgrade the OEM rubber. I plan on mostly city and highway driving, some towing around 4-6k lbs, some light off roading, but I need winter grip to make it over mountain passes during big storms. I want one set of tires for the year. I’m debating between the Pirelli scorpion at plus and the general grabber at/x. Any input on which tire I should consider? Thanks for the content!
I’m a new subscriber from Canada. Your channel is great. I have a ‘14 Ram 1500 needing new rubber. As someone who drives most of the time on the highway but the odd time in dirt/gravel to unload my boat, but also NEED snow traction, my choices are these Pirellis OR Cooper AT3 4S. Which would you recommend of those two? (I’m leaning to the Pirelli’s but not sure which may be better).🇨🇦👍🏼
We’ve been running these on our 2010 outback with an Lp adventure 2” lift & Motegi mmr118’s they’re a bit noisy around 50mph. They do well in sand and snow so far. We average 19mpg
Thanks for the review! I'm between this scorpion or the Cooper discoverer AT3 lt or XLT on 285 70 17, for a Tacoma TRD 4x4 , which ones do you recommend?
I have a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee and need to replace the OEM Goodyear Wrangler Adventure Kevlar’s which have worked well. I predominantly do h/way driving and a bit of towing but would like something that looked a little more aggressive. Would you recommend the Pirelli’s or stick with the Goodyear’s… or something else? Thanks for the content, very informative.
Wet grass. That’s interesting. I drive on wet grass a lot. And have to use 4 X 4 - even on the slightest incline. Might have to consider these. Thanks!
Hi there! Thanks for the info. Looking for a great winter tyre for my LR4. How does the snow performance compare to the other AT tyres? Any better recommendation? cheers!
very good information, I'm thinking of buying these neomatics, Pirelli Scorpion All-Terrain Plus - LT275/65R20/E 126S Tire for my Ram 2500 megacab 2012 5.7 gas, what could you tell me or recommend, most of the time I drive on highways, but sometimes I enter dirt roads not that often . Thank you
What are your thoughts on running these on your Ram pickup but in a slightly different size solely because they’re available with white raised letters. We know that the Firestone Transforce AT is the only LT285/60R20 available with the white letters. (I really like that look) These Pirellis are not available in that size but would it be bad idea to run a Scorpion LT275/65R20 instead?? Genuinely curious what your thoughts are.
I wish the video would have showed it a bit more but you need to look at the sidewall biter area at a slight angle. There's a really nice detail along the top outside edge as it transitions to the sidewall.
@@ga-america5030 Still doing well. They are awesome in deep snow and shallow snow. They do ok on ice, but it's ice. They are great in mud and dirt. A little noiser as they wear. Overall I like them
@@edgrigsby8610 thank you for getting back with me, how many miles? All the real world experience and info is so useful, I'm at a 3 way fork, michelin defender,ko2s and looking at options for ATs
@@ga-america5030 I've put about 30k on them. ( I made several long distance trips with them). I've had Michelin Defender AT2 and the BFG ko's. The Michelin do better in slush and ice but not as good in snow. The Pirelle's are closer to the BFG's. The Pirelle's DO out handle the other's. They stick to the dry road like glue. In rain, I'd rate the Michelin and the Pirelle's tied. Noticable better than the BFG's. BFG' s are noticable better in Mud, then the others. The Pirelle's do great in mud, but don't clear as nice if you floor it and get them spinning. Michelin don't like mud and clog up.BTW I've put a lot of miles on the Pirelle's, with very little wear. So it really comes down to where you drive most, and what the biggest challenge you would face. Off road, either the Pirelle's or BFG. On road... Pirelle's. Winter demands ice, sleet, slush... Michelin. SNOW either the Pirelle's or BFG would be awesome, but keep in mind, BFG do the worst of the three in slush and deep puddles of heavy rain
Just got a set of these in 275/55/20 for my 1998 2 door tahoe. Mostly sees pavement with a little snow and mud here and there. Probably work better than my bald tires with pieces flapping off them
I have a 2016 sierra denali 1500 6.2 litre . I'm gonna buy these Pirrelis ???? Do I need to worry about load rate do to the side wall reduction? Thank you
I've gotten 19k miles on my small SUV that came with Pirelli Scorpion Verde tires. It's a grocery getter that got 2 years of average driving out of the stock tires. That is really bad, but not nearly as bad as Pirelli's attempts to ignore the problem and complaints about it.
I disagree about the Verdes. I have them on our Mercedes GLS 450 and they're wearing very nicely, plenty of tread left (>50%) after 35k miles. They're wearing evenly and still perform well in snowy conditions. I'm buying these AT+ (E1 load rating) for my new F150 based on the reviews and my experience with the Pirelli Scorpion Verdes. Hope they perform as well as everyone says they do.
Great videos! I have a 2020 ridgeline and am on the west coast so... lots of rain, some snow, and mountain dirt roads, however, 80% of my driving is on the blacktop. I am looking for a stock replacement ATV tire, Michelin LTX /Pirelli Scorp +/ Yokohama go15, are the three I'm narrowed in on. Which would you recommend or perhaps one I haven't mentioned?
I'm buying a new 2021/22 F150 with the 2.7L. would these tire be good for a full sized truck? I spend most of my time on the hwy and not a lot of time off road unless it's for parking at work or to get to a construction site. My current tire on my current truck has the Bridgestone Revo 3 tires on them and I just love the tires and will most likely buy them again. I was curious if the new Pirelli tires were better and if so, worth it?
Are these better than Michelin’s? How long are they warrantied for? At what mileage does the tread start to go? Can these tires be driven in dry condition?
I have a 2014 f150. Im thinking these perelli or K02’s?? I do 70km a day hwy driving per day. And hunting 1-6days in October. What’s the best tire for me? I currently get 13.9L average 100km. What would the perelli and k02 be?
@@CampusautoCo I've noticed right away that the road noise at highway speed was minimal, I was able to drive on a loose gravel road as if it was paved, the next test will be as it the weather includes rain, sleet, and snow this week.
I live in NJ and have an 02 4runner. I want something that will be good during the dry months but a BEAST when it snows here -- and it snows here a lot. I also do some light off-roading, nothing too serious. What tire should I go with if I really want to perform well in the snow but also be able to drive when it's dry. Money is no issue, I'm willing to spend whatever.
I know this is an older video, not sure if you’re still replying. Gonna be Running a LRdisco2 3in lift , want the off road aggressive look but I won’t be going too hard, mostly hwy driving, road trips. NYC winters as well. I saw these and wanted them, any recommendations
I'm thinking of getting these cause I've heard they're very quiet. Have a prado 90 series that I go anywhere and everywhere (aus). Have you got a recommendation or should i be fine with these
Hope u watch thiis video before middle week cause i am having my maverick and want to change stock atr pireli, i will do 70 pavement city road,vs maybe winter rain, snow vacacyton off road if needed. Stock are 225 65 r17 31lb atr pirelli, and i am between this pirelli plus or the falken at3 in 235 65 r17 wich its weight is the same 31.1 as stock atr. I think the at3 are somehow better all rounfd than pireli plus but dont know about the noise ....could it be to much?
Thanks for this review! I've been looking for some replacement tires for my '16 Silverado Z71 Midnight edition. My Duratracs are worn down and really loud! I do 90% on-road driving, so I'd rather have a quiet tire, but I'd like to keep at least some of the aggressive AT look. How do these Pirelli's compare to the Continental Terrain Contact A/T?
They are similar. The Pirelli is more aggressive and carries the 3 peaks snow rating. So if you drive in snow do the Pirelli first but if you don't do snow, get the Terrain Contact AT.
2wd Dodge Ram snow performance? You said 2 ply sidewall but they come in a Load Range E. Are they not strong enough? Considering these over the Continental or Grabber APT just based on price, but I need good snow traction pulling a 30 ft trailer.
Chilidog, you are confusing sidewall plies with tread plies. Plenty of quality, heavy duty E-rated all terrain tires have 2-ply sidewalls; some of which may have the same total sidewall thickness as a similar 3-ply sidewall tire.
@@Icutmetal would you happen to know if load range C tires typically have 6-ply thread wall? I'm interested in this tire in passenger spec and load range is equivalent to C range so I'm just curious if that means 6ply thread wall?
Hi, these tyres are good for Land Rover Discovery 4 of 2014? 19" and 20". Or Continental CrossContact ATR or Goodyear Wrangler All Terrain Adventure? Thanks :)
Trying do decide between these or the continental terrain contact a/t on my 2014 f150 2 wheel drive. I do all payment driving with a ~70 mile highway drive to work a launch a heavy 22’ shamrock a few times a month looking to get the best traction on wet boat ramps and ride quality. which would you recommend?
I drive 90% on-road and 10% serious off-road (any terrain just short of rock crawling). Will the Scorpion AT+ be a better fit for my driving or should I get the BFG KO2?
Question for Campus Auto and anyone I suppose: What are your thoughts about putting a set of these on a 2022 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab short bed 4wd? Most of my driving is street but I do hunt/fish so I do the logging roads and class 6 roads here in NH. I live in a rural area and we have long hard winters and snow packed roads so I like the 3peak mountain snowflake rating. I'm also considering the Falken Wildpeak AT3w, Toyo OC AT3, General Grabber ATX, BFG TA KO2. I want to go with a better than OE AT tire but need to limit road noise.
I have a 2012 Silverado LT 4x4 Crew Cab. I am looking at either these or the BFG KO2's, of the two which would you go with? I recently moved to the Memphis, TN area from Orlando, FL and need a good year around tire and something I won't have to worry about when I start deer hunting.
I can't understand why they ditched the previous atr.. the tire was amazing quite.. excellent on road and very good off-road for it's more on road style..
I don’t drive off-road nearly as much as I thought I would. But I drive in snow and slush in winter and sand when I go fishing. Would these tires be good?
The size I need only comes with RWL, can anyone confirm if the opposite side will still be blackwall? Im not a fan of the white letters on my all black Jeep. Thanks!
I have a 2019 Nissan Frontier pro 4x I live in Nevada where there’s quite a bit of snow and ice in the winter and a lot of trails for off roading in the summer I’m looking for something that will be better in both conditions then the stock dynapro atms.i was looking at either these or the Bridgestone dueler revo 3s which would be better or what other tire would fit what I’m looking for.
Campus Automotive Inc after doing some looking on generals website it doesn’t look like the grabber atx is available on the stock tire size that’s on my truck so I was wondering if they would fit or what would I have to do to get them for my truck
@@CampusautoCo after checking a couple websites they all say the grabber atx doesn't come in the right size to fit my truck so I was looking at the cooper discoverer at3 4s everywhere i checked says it comes in the right size and it is best rated on tire rack what are your thoughts on it?
That’s a great looking tire; maybe not as aggressive as a KO2 or similar, but I’d have to think it will be an improvement over its predecessor. I’m interested in seeing more feedback on the Firestone Destination XT. The one thing that I’ve noticed that concerns me is their low weight vs. most any similar AT. I wonder if that’ll translate into them being a weaker tire. I heard you mention the two vs three ply sidewall. Pretty sure a KO2’s got 3 1000denier plies, whereas the Grabber ATX has two 1500 denier plies. Would be interesting to see a true sidewall strength test.
Got them on a 04 Suburban they ride great so far pretty quiet and they got even better when I took those highly overrated piece of garbage bilstein shocks off after 1k miles and went with rancho
Update hard pack slush turned to ice and blowing snow in areas, they go real good and more importantly they stop great and predictable compared to the Bridgestone duelers, although I never had bfg ko or general atx I was looking at, I like these
All things that are Italian are: “Reliable as a truck stop hot dog...”, like Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, Bugatti...hee hee, I get it...they don't haul a lot of corn right?
@@CampusautoCo I cannot agree with you more if you are talking FIAT and Alfa Romeo, but the latest Maserati is flowless, if you are talking about the old bitutbo you are so right! Well done with the videos, it is helping me a lot to choose the correct tires, all the way from Rome Italy. Cheers and keep up the good work.
Hahahah. Pirelli used barely clad female models to sell tires. They made some of the first Swimsuit Calenders, the famous Pirelli Calenders! Art? Hardly. Bathing beauties? Yes.
