Where are you located I live in Tampa and there's no listing of your business whatsoever do you have an address or a phone number because nothing comes up when I search for you?
Porting just works! I think the people bashing have just never tried it. I have fired in darkness and was never blinded. I have fired ported J-frames from inside jacket pockets and there was no fire to my clothing. Anything that helps mitigate recoil and increases followup shots is worth having. Porting has come a long way. I am an old head used to magnaporting and Glock 19c's. The stuff coming out now is very impressive but also very expensive. Thanks for your video
I go back and forth on the reliability. My Glocks with ports and lighter springs have to be cleaned and lubed eventually (1500 rounds) whereas my nonported ones never. Also there is very weak ejection with light ammo with ports. Is that minor decrease in the reliable operational window worth it. People can make that choice for themselves
Shooting a ported firearm in the dark and not being blinded does not tell a full story. If you are in pitch black darkness and your eyes have settled into their night vision mode, you will experience port blast affecting your night vision. If you are shooting in an environment at night that has some lighting, then your eyes have not settled into full night vision mode. I am not hating, I am going a little bit more in-depth on something that has nuances people overlook or never consider. Carrying a ported pistol for EDC makes sense because most people are going to be going about their normal business in the day and at night where they go into a restaurant, a Quick Trip for beer, your eyes are constantly be subjected to light sources at night. If you are in a purely tactically environment so dark that you almost need night vision, ported and compensated firearms are not ideal. There is more to, "it just never affected me."
Well done. I’m a huge fan of the MT Lucky 7’s as well. The most expensive and lead times are long but worth it. Always wanted to compare to their Ghengis comp. 🤘
I also have a 7 port done, just like the MT, but done local to me in Philly at Printz F ireA rms. Totally changed the handling of my 5" Prodigy. Amazing
Porting absolutely is effective. If it wasn’t I don’t think Glock would’ve sold their “C” model guns, or smith and wesson with some of their performance center guns.
Ports are a part of my religion. I prefer a lighter rsa personally but they are not required as you stated. I find they cycle better and lock back more reliably for me even with my high grip.
I need to try out ports one of these days, maybe on the Staccato P. I have micro comps from PMM and Radian and have been extremely happy with them. Thanks for the info!
@@TampagunwerxCan you share how you test them? I’m starting to test different porting styles using a ransom rest and measuring angle of climb to collect actual data that seems to be missing from the industry.
I used Tampa gun werxs my oz9 was really flat, I would get your stuff done asap , when I sent mine in the turn around was 4-5 it doubled in a week so I expect it to keep getting longer and longer
I am curious about combining porting with a comp on the end. Tier1concealed talked about it in one of their videos, but I’m more concerned about the point of diminishing returns when it comes to porting VS comps, or combining the two, especially with the ramjet. If you comp a gun and then have it ported too, but you run hotter ammo like nato pressure 124 grain as your standard training ammo to take advantage of the extra pressure and gas, at what point is it going to be detrimental or overcompensating? If we’re chasing the dragon of recoil elimination in handguns, we might as well rule out all the possibilities right?
Have you experienced any malfunctions due to the porting? I had a radian ramjet and it exasperated glocks limp writing issue in a g19 and a g45. If I shot without a really strong grip I would get failures to extract. If I would shoot non dominate hand I would get a malfunctions on almost every round with both guns. Take it out and had zero issues, even trying to limp wrist it wpuld cycle, but the comp wouldn't allow it to cycle.
Did you have Mac Defense re-nitride your slide after the window cut? Asking bcuz I plan on sending them a slide and barrel to port with a bare metal optic cut(if I don’t Rustoleum spray the cut area) and I really like the color and finish of my brownells 34 slide and don’t want something that I won’t like.. and their website pix of their nitride service don’t do a good job of showing the quality of nitriding they do/are having done just like other company’s websites that offer nitride service
I run a ZEV OZ9C with a ramjet, tungsten guide road and 15 lb spring. Nice and flat with great return to zero. After a lot of testing with spring rates from 13 - 18 I settled on 15. Been thinking about Lucky 7 or DSC V8 for my Staccato P but haven’t decided. Any experience between the 2 port styles? It’s steel frame and doesn’t really need it but it’s fun to play.
3:25 "Does a longer barrel help ports? - a longer allows more gasses to build up" The amount of gas generated from any given round is going to be identical, even if you have a 0in barrel. However, the further the ports are down toward the end of a barrel will allow better velocity because the gasses have had more time to expand. A longer barrel would accomplish distancing the ports
I see your green g19 slide is a TradeCraft Armament. I have the very same cut with the included 10 hole porting. Is there any reason you went away from that?
I'll second that. They ported a Canik SFT for me. Was surprised how much of a difference it makes. They do it slightly different than most with the curved / slanted horizontal cuts.
In your experience, how does a ported G34 shoot compared to a comped G19? By comped I mean "really" comped (KKM, PMM Ultra, 417 dual port, etc.) I've got this wild idea in my head that a ported G34 would shoot 95% as well as a comped G19 without the reduction in reliability envelope.
I live in Tampa florida, I just did a search for Tampa Gun Works in absolutely nothing comes up, what is the actual name of the place you were talking about? Is it even in tampa? Cuz it's not called Tampa Gun Works
Would have been awesome to see the comparison including AlphaDog where the ports are cut on the right and left sides of the slide allowing you to better focus on the rise and fall of your dot!
Cuts made laterally have almost no benefits. Even when talking about V ports. There are significantly more benefits to inline top ports that essentially anything else!
6:58 - ive seen guntubers sacrifice their face and arms, shooting ported guns from retention. It is definitely not just gas expelled. Shards of copper jacket and lead are ejected and can be deeply embedded in your skin. Nightwood Guns channel fired many different types of ports, including ports created via EDM, and those still ejected shrapne - shown on video Im not saying dont carry ported guns, just be aware that in close retention firing, it can potentially permanently blind you (id not be concerned with small shrapnel hitting your arms in a self defense use, just the eyes)
Ports are great, but I've seen reliability issues with glocks and sigs. Slower slide action, dirty sights, FTF and more cleaning. A duty weapon or carry weapon should not experience these issues. Duty weopons should be left stock except for factory ports, optic ready slides or optic cuts done by a reputable company.
WOW!!!…. I really am spoiled apparently Lol my guy is 1-3 days for porting with 1 cerekote color finish. I drop it off on Friday and pick it up Monday morning 🤷♂️ haha YES!!! He’s a licensed machine shop, not billy Bob with a drill press Lol 😂👍 the catch is, he ONLY does 3 brands and refuses to do ANYTHING “adventurous” 😢
verified historical fact: The hk vp70 had multiple ports within the first 2 inches of barrel which lowered velocity to subsonic, approximattely 380 velocities. the HK mp5ks had ports within 2 inches of barrel to reduce velocity to subsonic, apprximately .380 velocities apparently uneducated, schizoid ramblings: if you put ports close to the chamber in your barrels you'll lose significant velocity. i'll take ports after the 3.5" mark and not a mm before, than you
