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Placeholder Links in Revit Tutorial (Office Hour Sessions) 

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On this episode of the Office Hour Sessions community members Paul and Chris ask about the concept of Placeholder Links in Revit Tutorial. This is a technique that allows you to build filters and graphics of LINKED files into your template... SO powerful when used correctly.
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@mep_guy
@mep_guy 2 года назад
The use of a "dummy link" is most powerful in my opinion when it comes to showing linked annotations specifically room tags. If done correctly, you can get the architect's tags to show in your MEP model template without having to run anything. It's also useful to set up some 3D coordination views that are already filtered by color so all the Arch stuff comes in blue, structure shows in red, etc.. Love these videos! I ended up reaching out to Paul about the lookup table video. He actually got back to me! I wanted to know if he'd ever went down the rabbit hole trying to do specs in Revit. Have you ever thought about this? It would be so cool to have some kind of checkbox for specs, then Revit just prints them out organized correctly without using word.
@TheRevitKid
@TheRevitKid 2 года назад
Cheers man! Yes, paul is great and totally accessible (like most of us “Revit guys”). I dabbled in various spec software many years ago (like especs) and found the spec writers were the hardest to convince. I’ve spent a lot of time these days working on how to achieve a model based deliverable and remove specs and drawings all together so it may be time to look back on those programs to see how we can build the specs INTO the model rather than extract specs from the model to make gigantic books out of.
@mep_guy
@mep_guy 2 года назад
@@TheRevitKid ahhh Yes that's a great idea. I literally made a note to myself the other day to provide an additional parameter for equipment called 'provide spec. Using your approach we can add an additional spec parameter for the multi-line text for the spec! love this idea. Now we just need to figure out how to get the formatting to work!
@jeremiahbowles5388
@jeremiahbowles5388 2 года назад
This is awesome, I've been doing PHA (Placeholder approach) for many years. I have sub-view templates that allow me to control the backgrounds as well so if the architect has tweaks I can update globally with RF Tools.
@Barboron
@Barboron 2 года назад
Being on the General Contractor (MEP) side of things I found Linked Views with a combination of links as Attachments VERY helpful. I am self thought in Revit so anything I say that I do here might not be ideal... Since we get structural models from a design team that will have concrete work and structural steel (which is usually superseded by our subcontractor). So the scenario I have in one of my projects right now is the design steel is removed, a linked view is set up and all out subcontractor steel is linked as an attachment. The linked view is cleaned up with grids turned off etc. Come into the MEP model, this linked view is then set. This means if we get additional steelwork models (for future phases) or updates, I can load this into the original steel model that's got the linked view. I do the same for architectural if our internal and external walls are different. Other scenario was pretty similar which was a project with multiple floors so it's just multiple linked views. Now, what do I do in the MEP model? This might be where people cringe or internally scream no to themselves, I set up a template that affects ONLY revit links and sets my revit links to have linked views (arch and structural) and do one for each floor. Then I can run dynamo to apply that template based on what the reference level is so it can sweep across and apply the linked view to all my level 0, level 1, etc. Then I can swap back to a template that affects model and annotation categories specific to MEP services be it an electrical or piping template, these could then be used on multiple floors. So linked view templates are floor specific across multiple disciplines (mech or elec). Services tempaltes are discpline specific across multiple floors. But working on data centres now, we work on 1 floor really so I haven't needed to go to that extent. I don't know if good or bad practice but it worked for me and cleaned up a lot of stuff real fast and means it's consistent with linekd views.
@TheRevitKid
@TheRevitKid 2 года назад
Damn!!! My mind is blown... I am not sure if it's because I read that and was actually able to follow the logic or because I like the idea... :) Cheers man!
@Barboron
@Barboron 2 года назад
@@TheRevitKid At least it made sense! It's a bit of a hassle and it leaves you open to having your links modified if they aren't in the services based template but if you get it all set up, it's an easy fix to just rerun the dynamo to update your backgrounds. Hosting all the structural files we get into a single model means if I get a new model to work on, we don't have to link everything, can just link a single model. We do run into 1 issue though that it means if we're working on BIM360, everything has to be hosted on BIM360 as it won't accept links as attachments if you link through autodesk docs (which just baffles me that it doesn't work).
@vamsikrishnapadala
@vamsikrishnapadala 2 года назад
Intresting gonna try this in my new project.
@TheRevitKid
@TheRevitKid 2 года назад
Cheers! Let me know how it works out!
@ryanrazer1
@ryanrazer1 2 года назад
I was told, someone in this meeting is very tired, but i wasn't told who. Can someone help me find out?
@colby4390
@colby4390 2 года назад
We have never been able to save links in a template file. We have always had a Revit model that stores the placeholder links. If the links are linked in by shared coordinates does it maintain that connection or does it use only center to center or origin to origin?
@TheRevitKid
@TheRevitKid 2 года назад
You'd most like wanted to have the placeholders as shared coordinates and then you can publish/acquire as needed.
@aaronvincent9876
@aaronvincent9876 2 года назад
@@TheRevitKid I was going to make the same comment. I've always been hesitant to do placeholder/ dummy links because I'm worried about the insertion method. Typically I use Origin to Origin, and then acquire coordinates on the architectural model (I'm in MEP). Coordinates are still kind of mysterious to me. Are there caveats or pitfalls to the linking method you are suggesting?
@facelessone86
@facelessone86 Год назад
We have one architect that uses Archicad and gives us IFC files. :( Our template is setup with placeholder links for arch, structure, etc. Currently, due to poor handling of some categories with IFC, we use CAD exports of their model for print views but it would still be nice to have our placeholder setting apply to the IFC link. I know when you link a IFC file it generates an intermediate .ifc.RVT file. I'm wondering if you link the IFC to generate the Revit file then unlink the file and do a reload from on the placeholder link and choose the generated intermediate will the link update when you override the IFC file with a new version? Does it only know that the intermediate needs to be updated if it was linked using "Link IFC" command? There is also a add-in by Graphisoft that has it's own commands for importing, linking, and exporting. I was under the impression that the link command had some kind of custom settings to more reliably create the intermediate Revit file, but in the documentation it simply says that their command runs the Revit "Link IFC" command. If this is true what is the point of having that included in the add-in? Anyone know if this does anything special? I'm also wondering instead of linking if we should start a new project and use the add-in to import the file and save it every time we get a new IFC. That way we could simply reload from in our file on project startup and then just reload when we get a new file.
@tahajaorawala7103
@tahajaorawala7103 2 года назад
hello, jeff, I am a avid follower of the B.A.D today I saw this session with your template could you share that template if possible
@TheRevitKid
@TheRevitKid 2 года назад
The template is available to members of my community and courses (community.bimafterdark.com) however I am planning on tuning up the residential template and have it available as a standalone product … stay tuned!
@kdpmac2207
@kdpmac2207 Год назад
Hey There, I did this and I can't seem to get ONE thing to work. We're an interior design firm and we want all link walls to be Poche (Grey Solid Fill). Unfortunately, when I "reload from" and bring in the link, the Wall Visibility setting just changes to a different pattern instead of solid Fill. So for example, I brought in Arch's link, and all the walls are set to a Grey "Diagonal Up" pattern instead of the poche that I had set up in the view template. Any ideas why? It wouldn't be such a big deal if it wasn't such an obvious visual error.
@TheRevitKid
@TheRevitKid Год назад
Do you have those wall overrides set up in the placeholder link settings, as a filter, or in the view/graphics settings of your template?
@kdpmac2207
@kdpmac2207 Год назад
@@TheRevitKid Within each of my view templates (Construction Plan, Wall Finish Plan, RCP etc. etc.) I have the Walls, CW, and Column overrides set to the Grey I figured since that's a built-in Revit pattern type it should not be a problem. I find filters with links to be tough to manage so I've avoided that so far.
@maxipaxi6338
@maxipaxi6338 Год назад
Can you linked Revit Template?
@TheRevitKid
@TheRevitKid Год назад
Not sure what your asking…?
@maxipaxi6338
@maxipaxi6338 Год назад
@@TheRevitKid is it possible to make revit template file a linked file in Revit Project? My Revit library with all my BIM elements are in Revit Template file. So i was wondering if its possible to linked that Template into project. For easy modeling.
@TheRevitKid
@TheRevitKid Год назад
@@maxipaxi6338 no… not unless you save it as a project file… but, if you start your project using the template you’ll have everything anyways… so not really sure the benefit of being able to do that?
@maxipaxi6338
@maxipaxi6338 Год назад
@@TheRevitKid Because starting a project i use different template were everything is settle for projects. The idea was able to always an update revit library. Because the library is ongoing proces of refining elements.
@TheRevitKid
@TheRevitKid Год назад
@@maxipaxi6338 I’m still not following you… if you’re saying you have a template with families built into it and you want to bring those into your project then linking is still not really your best bet… just opening the Revit families project and copy pasting is easiest in that case
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