The plane is 100% at fault. The pilot had MANY options. 1. Hit his brakes and wait until the important SUV was gone. 2. Honked his horn. 3. Make a hard right intentionally crashing his plane in order to save the responsible SUV driver. 4. Planned to land earlier in order to avoid this entire thing.
@@sr-ty7gb 😂😂 Although in all seriousness don’t pilots have to ask the flight tower if the runway is clear before they land? And shouldn’t the SUV driver be checking for landing and taking off planes before crossing the runway, SUV driver can ask flight tower first too
@@jayasmrmore3687 I'm not a pilot, so chances are I'm wrong, but if the airport has a tower, the tower should check to make sure the runway is clear before landing, though the pilot also has the responsibility of checking to see whether or not the runway is clear. This seems like a smaller airport that probably doesn't have a tower, in which case, it's up to the pilot to announce their landing to any aircraft in the area and to verify that the runway is clear. In the video you can see the pilot is on a very short final, and actually seems to be flaring at the time of impact. You can also see that the car just keeps moving at a constant speed. This tells me two things: 1. The pilot believed that the runway was clear and 2. The SUV did not check to see whether or not a plane was landing before they drove in front of an active runway. I would like to believe that the SUV was deemed at fault in this case.
I think if it wasn't for this collision, the SUV driver would've turned onto the runway and then complain about why planes keep trying to land on top of her.
The airport management is at fault for not putting adequate stop signals. Why not a traffic light or at least clearer stop signs and such.....- and maybe someting that flashes like gates when a plane is cleared to land or take off?
The plane is 100% at fault. The pilot had MANY options. 1. Hit his brakes and wait until the important SUV was gone. 2. Honked his horn. 3. Make a hard right intentionally crashing his plane in order to save the responsible SUV driver. 4. Planned to land earlier in order to avoid this entire thing.
@@rcpurge3268Any reasonable person would see this is the SUV's total lack of situational awareness like how on Earth do you not notice a plane directly beside you, complete moron
So even after the accident and realizing what happened the driver still says "...and equipment was falling". What the hell do you not understand about "You were hit by an airplane". Nothing fell. You weren't paying attention. Obviously, based on her tone nothing is ever her fault. Ever.
Her insurance must have an "I am a fucking moron" clause. Peripheral vision? What peripheral vision? "Oh, hang on, am i supposed to be aware of what's going on around me officer? I though that applied to everyone else while I'm putting my make up on and piss around with my cellphone".
its a woman thus its ALWAYS someone elses fault and sadly between our sexist legal system. femminist propiganda, and how many women constantly play the victim card and get away with it, they have been brainwashed into thinking their actions have no consequences. im sure some dumb white knight or femnazi bitch will be along shortly to defend the dumbass in the suv though
Those planes are not quiet, not to mention its a runway. You can expect low flying aircraft. You shouldn't even need stop signs to know to stop, its common sense.
james connor They have a fucking sign at the entrance that says planes have the right of way, and be prepared to stop...also YOU DONT PUT UP A LITERAL FUCKING STOP SIGN ON THE GODDAMN RUNWAY...
also like i said they have 2 goddamn signs at that airport, before the runway, im saying a stop sign right on the edge of the runway wouldnt happen, and your airport doesnt have a stopsign right on the runways edge...also i dont even live within 300 miles of this place, but i looked it up
They never mentioned in this video that this was the pilot's FIRST SOLO LANDING. As a fellow student pilot, I can say that those are probably the most nerve-wracking landings you'll ever perform. I can't imagine this happening. Unfortunately, the article also mentioned that the pilot has decided to give up flying after this traumatic experience. A sad day indeed!
I hope somebody gets it into his head that now that this has happened his statistical chances are near zero of ever happening again. And damn, he handled it! He should be proud and confident in his abilities.
@@cropcircle5693 "Confident in his abilities"?!?! Seriously? He proceeded to try to land when an SUV was crossing underneath him. He doesn't alter his course at all. I'm glad he quit. Furthermore, from the NTSB Report: "The accident is primarily attributed to the pilot's failure to maintain clearance from obstacles on the runway approach path. Contributing factors are the airport management's decision to relocate the runway displaced threshold, which did not provide an adequate safety margin for approaching aircraft, and the automobile driver's inadequate lookout for approaching aircraft before crossing the runway's approach path."
You can't imagine this happening?? Then something is very wrong with your brain because after seeing it actually happening in this video it is really easy to imagine it happening cause you saw it already Siiiiuuuuu
@@td866 Hey just imagine coming in for a landing all by yourself for the first time, and being super nervous, then all of a sudden a car just runs straight through the stop sign out of nowhere, and you only have milliseconds to react while your still nervous. So tell me, how could you have handled this situation any better. I'll wait.
Just learned today that I flew this airplane for my first solo last October! Kudos to the folks who repaired the aircraft, because you could not tell it was in this accident by the way it flew or handled on the ground. It flies as N172RD now.
@Gus W as you can see, if he hadn't hit that car, he would've set down right on the threshold. The collision with the car slowed him down so that he set down much sooner.
+Bushwacker the real problem is there being an active ROAD on an airport. why not place it 10 feet on the other side of that white fence? then it will be well outside the runways approach path unless someones in the process of crashing (well short on final) then a car on a road is the least ofthier issues. It would most importantly be off the airport grounds and a complete non issue
kineticdeath...Jesus christ, look it up on google earth before you say anything........ITS THE FUCKING AIRPORT'S ROAD TO THE HANGERS...people should know before they drive into the airport, that planes have right of way...the fact that the bitch driver didnt see the plane , or look before driving into it means she should be euthanized for the sake of humanity
Commercial airports often do have raised runway lights on poles on the end of the runway. They are part of the Precision Approach Lighting System. They are not always raised, but they often are when there is a road that runs perpendicular to the end of the runway.
Yeah. Ive got a feeling if that moron/bitch had seen that video afterwards, she wouldve said something along the lines of "Well, they shouldve stopped for us" PS I realize im here 11yrs after upload and 2yrs after @erictaylor5462's comment. Thanks YT for _finally_ putting this upload in my feed
It looks as if the SUV was operating within a fence that borders the airport, so the car was operating in an aircraft enviroment, and should have followed the rules that apply. In addition to the stop sign, the SUV crossed a hold short line (the yellow lines, one solid and one broken) that also mean stop. He also should have checked to make sure no traffic (i.e., aircraft) was as close as the airplane obviously was. He could have stopped to avoid the colllision. The Cessna couldn't.
My big problem with this is that the driver didn't hear the damn plane. A Cessna may be small, but at that distance it is most certainly not quiet. They are truly lucky to be alive and the driver needs to get her situational awareness up.
@@dba_winchester7670 planes are a lot more quiet when they're coming into land. I've had people walking on the runway not hear me in a pawnee with a big ol 540 engine. They sure heard me when I throttled up to go around though
The same way people don't see a car the size of a car coming at them at intersections? In this case, there wasn't even an intersection. I don't usually look 90 degrees to my left when there's no intersection to see if something is coming at high speed at me because it's much more likely that by doing so I'll hit something in front of me.
There is a Google Map view of this airport, Northwest Regional Airport and the road is for accessing the east side of the airport. The only reason to be on this road is to have business at the airport as there is nothing else around except the airport. The road in question has one divided octagonal sign on a 3- or 4-foot post clearly visible to vehicle traffic STOP (upper half) and WARNING LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT (lower half) and a painted white line crossing the road at the point of the STOP sign. The same configuration is true coming from the other direction as well. 11198 Cleveland Gibbs Rd, Roanoke, TX on Google Maps shows the road that the SUV was on. The camera operator sucks.
Yes, you would think that anyone operating a vehicle through there would be aware of the runway crossing and the stop warnings painted in the middle of the roadway. Way easier to stop a SUV than an airplane coming in for a landing. So the driver literally ran the stop sign into oncoming "traffic".
so...the driver of the SUV says they didnt pull out in front of a plane or get hit by one, yet they got hit by the landing gear, this video proves everything and according to them it wasnt a plane? actual twats
@@348frank348 To access the hangers and other airport facilities. It's called a tarmac you imbecile. Also, check your hearing, because the people in the video said what type of roadway it was at 0:06.
A road RIGHT AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY, seemed like a great idea at the time. Considering that most people pay almost no attention to the world around them these days.
@@FlyingCameraGuy By the sound of the woman, I don't think she's too familiar with aviation. It would be interesting to know why she was on that road.
I don't think people are taking that into consideration and automatically blaming the SUV driver. To me it appears as an accident just waiting to happen.
I agree, the pilot should have stopped or reversed to give some spacing to the passing car. Pedestrians and cars always have right of way. I'm a CFII can confirm this is true.
The airports I know have big warning signs, such as "Danger! you are entering an active runway! Watch out for planes" or simply red traffic lights set from the control tower.
Instructor to the student "good landing, now let's fight for that center line. Stay on those rudders - Keep flying the plane all the way to the hangar, as I always say."
I like how they have video proof, but the driver still says she didn’t pull out in front of it... 😂 I like how she said there was equipment flying into the car, when there is only landing gear, which is aircraft parts...
Top ten signs you are at an airport: 1) The cars around you are mostly parked and strange in shape; like small wheels & a little wider than usual, 2) The roads suddenly have funny markings, 3) There's not as much traffic on the road. That's nice. 4) There are no traffic lights, no left turn lanes, no overpasses, nice simple Sunday driving. 5) There are no trees, lamp posts, houses, railway crossings, shopping centers. Who needs them. 6) The wider roads now have cute lights and low signs on them. Even nicer. Is it Christmas? Why can't all roads be like this? 7) Unexplained sudden appearance of equipment in the back of your vehicle, 8) Someone accuses you of pulling out in front of an airplane, when you weren't even on a tarmac. The nerve! 9) You figure out they meant to say 'equipment', but no one has explained why it falls from the sky. Perhaps the ground is rising. Sideways. It came in the side window. 10) Someone posts a video of an SUV looking a lot like yours, with the same strange dent, at an airport, at a runway.
If your driving anywhere inside an airport, like anywhere near aircraft or runways or anything, you really need to know what your doing. Doesn't matter how small it is.
Multiple errors. Northwest Reigonal Airport - 52F - Roanoke, Texas. 1. Looked like the pilot was way low and landing short on the runway. The runway threshold was about 100 yards away. See the runway on Google Maps. 2. Poorly marked STOP and warning signs. 3. Driver didn't stop and look for aircraft.
There are no threshold markers in that runway. I'd suggest consulting the applicable AIM section on runway markers before making such claims. The pilot was lower than recommended, but he absolutely was going to make the runway. He's also a student pilot, so not expected to make a perfect landing everyone.
Yep. That airport has a design problem if people have a stop written on the ground only, and also have to watch out for planes landing and taking off at the stop. FAA will advise of a redesign.
The airport should have had much better markings to grab driver attention. But, you have to know that if you are driving in an airport, your head must be on a swivel. There are propellers and jet engines and all kinds of other dangerous shit around and if you're not paying attention, you can cause serious injury or death to someone, including yourself. The lady's lack of adequate care was the primary cause of the incident.
Barry Sabahat The airport actually has signs before you reach the point were its painted stop...Its just the signs are obviously further back, so they arent in the way
I live next to field where glider tugs take off almost daily during great weather and I can hear them taking off a 100 yards away like a pack of Harleys but they are tough to hear coming in for landings with the throttle pulled back. Inside a car with windows up and I doubt they heard that plane. They damn sure should have seen it tho. It was coming right at them.
Steven Bai Then you'd be wrong. The duty of care is on the driver of the car crossing an active runway, not the inbound plane. When the pilot is on final the runway is classed as occupied
Steven Bai The runway is occupied as the plane is on final. The car driver is 100% at fault. It's called Airlaw....just as roads have laws, so do runways.
If they are on an active airport then it is their duty to know the rules. Simples. Morons not knowing the rules and not taking the time to learn them cause accidents. Hell, the dumb bint was too fucking thick to think "Its a runway- there might be planes landing. better look out the window and see". The car driver was 100% in the wrong here. Damn lucky that no-one was killed or seriously injured.
RandomBloxPlayz u are indoctrinated by the media. No place on an airport is called a tarmac. There is the runway, which is not made of tarmac but rather asphalt or concrete, taxiways, which lead to the runways, and aprons, the open parking areas used for many things. There is no area on an airport called a tarmac
Harry Henry Gebel tarmac is a different material then asphalt. Asphalt has better weight supporting capabilities than tarmac, which is why asphalt is used on airports. Tarmac and asphalt are different
At any airport though where you cross behind or in front of the runway you should always stop and check. Most planes don't have windows on the bottom so pilots cant see whats below them.
ITS IN THE GODDAMN AIRPORT, if your driving in a fucking airport, you should know planes have the right of way...if you spent 2 seconds looking into it, youd see it isnt just a normal road, the crazy bitch was driving on the airports road to the hangers
Neither the FAA nor the Police allow a fixed standard stop sign at the edge of a runway...too easy to clip one with a wing. Drivers are supposed to watch for and give the right of way to any moving aircraft, especially one that is on short final. The SUV Driver will be paying.
Actually, it was the pilot’s fault. I’m a pilot, have been one for two decades. This airport has been around for generations, and nothing like this has happened before. Why, you ask? That’s because Runway 17 has a displaced threshold. In other words, the vehicle driving should have been safe to do so because aircraft aren’t supposed to be landing for another 520 feet (160 meters)! The student pilot was at fault. Period. That being said, there’s no way the driver should have missed that Cessna flying entirely too low, and if they had been paying attention, would have stopped.
I totally agree that the plane was too low if he didn't hit the car, he would have landed in the grass before the strip that said, how do you miss an airplane coming at your driver side window lol
They have a setup like that at PAX River NAS, they have flashing lights and a big sign to stop for aircraft. You are feet away from the coolest military planes landing! Very cool. This place needs a stop sign with a sign saying stop for aircraft. Nine years ago, anybody know if there have been updates?
Unfotunately, their stop sign looks like something a 5 year old wrote down with a piece of chalk.put. up some vertical signs that are spread out far enough that it does not interfere with planes landing, but that vehicles can stop and look before preceding, without fouling the decent route for a plane landing. My opinion, poor markings per the airport, and i do not care how small the airport is because signs are not a major investment
They just can't put a stop sign there. Imagine a plane struggling to come in with heavy crosswinds and getting its wing ripped off by a road sign pole. So it has to be painted. I agree the paint work wasn't the best in this case, but was still clearly visible. The car driver probably wasn't paying attention or his passenger was distracting him.
The woman holding the camera shook it because her husband just crashed his airplane into a car. I doubt keeping the camera still was her first thought.
Even when they interviewed her she still says “equipment was falling into the car” like she hadn’t seen the video of a plane hitting her car. It’s like she doesn’t understand or is unwilling to see what happened and how it was her fault. How arrogant do you have to be to drive your car around on a tarmac and not think it’s your fault when you get in a planes way?
Runways are still known as tarmac, even though they're not made out of it. Much like we call a pencil a lead pencil, even though it's not made from lead.
@@angeldg7353, XC90s that old didn't have auto brake. Also, even if auto brake was equipped, the aircraft would have to be directly in front of the car for the radar and laser module to see the obstacle and initiate a stop.
As pilot who just got his PPL. I can relate to this incident. It’s a nerve wrecking for a student pilot to practice landing. Your eye judgement is not fully train yet, so sometimes you overshoot or sometimes you undershoot like this case
For those who dont know there is a restaurant across the runway where people go eat and see planes landing. Locals know they need to stop and watch for planes. She did not!
THAT VEHICLE IS DRIVING WITHIN THE PERIMETER OF AN AIRPORT. THEREFORE, IT MUST FOLLOW THE SIGNS. IT MUST HOLD SHORT OF THE RUNWAY, AND CONFIRM VISUALLY THAT THERE IS NOT TRAFFIC COMING FROM BOTH SIDES. THE VEHICLE IS AT FAULT, NOT THE PILOT AS SOME TRUMPETS SAY.
100% driver at fault if there was a clearly marked stop and they blew through it. That being said, defensive driving can be practiced while flying. It might be hard on student pilots, but any experienced aviator will have enough situational awareness to notice a threat like this and have a plan B.
PLANES ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. Dosen't matter what vehicle you are in. You are supposed to stop when the word stop is on the ground or on a sign and make sure the area is clear for you to pass.
no, she was driving on the fucking airports road...to the hangers...it says planes have right of way, and prepare to stop before that road...its 100% the dimb bitch in the suvs fault
@@mohpkhall622 nope if it was the new xc90 2020 by geely it was totally destroyed. This was the old volvo xc90 2006 made by ford. Known as the most safest car in the world.
Why did this plane have only one wheelpant on it prior to the impact (left main)? That's weird. I've seen many with all or none, or pants on the mains but not the nosewheel, but never one....
There are several factors going on here: 1. The aircraft is below its correct threshold crossing height and not on a normal approach path. The NTSB raises this in its report. Training issue. 2. The road signage is faded and inadequate. Airport maintenance and management issue. 3. The car did not “pull out”(which implies it was stopped), it was travelling at a steady speed. The occupants would not be able to hear the aircraft in a modern, sealed car. The aircraft had little relative motion, was not on a normal approach path and was possibly obscured by the A pillar and roofline. All party’s share some blame. Pilot, driver, training organisation and airport management.
I'm not sure how no one else seems to see this. The guy barely missed the fence. To me it looks like he was going to possibly hit the dirt or land on the displaced threshold. You cannot do this. In my opinion he is at fault.
I think there are multiple reasons for this accident, and at least in part, everyone is to blame. The driver for failing to stop, and failing to be aware of there surroundings. The owners of the airport for failing to provide adequate warnings of approaching/low flying aircraft, and finally the pilot who was obviously too low on the approach.
Yes, and I did think after writing this comment that it also may depend on the length of runway. But if you take a look at the image above, you can clearly see how close the aircraft wheels are to the white fence which is why I made that comment. Also, the fact that he was a student pilot makes it even worse, as IMO the instructor should have been more observant (maybe he would have seen that car approaching), and should have realized the aircraft was too low on approach and taken control of the aircraft. Whichever way you look at it though, there are obviously multiple problems with this airport, which hopefully by now have been fixed, as this incident did take place back in 2012.
Exactly. You would think the FAA does safety and environment inspections at all airports. There will be changed and improvements done at this airport soon.
Thank you for being the one who also noticed the student pilot on first solo was also responsible. I was looking at comments to see who else flies and saw he was aiming for the threshold instead of further down the runway. Although the car driver was primarily responsible, accidents are much more complex, and the stop sign looks barely legible plus the student pilot has the instructor pilot to blame for teaching him the bad habit of trying to land at the threshold. I experienced that in my early training, and it ends up in low approaches and coming in short of the threshold on occasion. Much better to pick an aiming point 500 feet from the threshold and maintain a stabilized approach with some power .
The reporter said the FAA wants to "avoid another close call like this one." This was not a close call! This was just a call. The bell was rung. The aircraft impacted the SUV. Nothing close about it. It was dead on.
It’s a private road, on the airport property. They probably drove right past a sign that explained what they were supposed to do when approaching the landing zone.
It's not properly marked! It looks like it might be hard to read. What if it was snowing and the roads were slushy or snow covered?? Then what?? That's where a Stop sign comes in handy... Maybe the plane should have yielded as well. Just as responsible to me! :)
brainiac409 - Yup, I'm agreeing with you on the snow bizz. That's kind of why I recanted on part of my original reply. I forgot it was in Texas, which isn't to far from me.
