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planing wide boards perfectly with electric hand planer / upgraded ver. 2 [woodworking] 

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@MadeArteHM
@MadeArteHM 2 года назад
Something very simple and very practical, never ceases to amaze me, congratulations
@ferguscampbell5828
@ferguscampbell5828 2 года назад
I love vids like this, it shows ways I can use my limited set of tools to do things that would normally require more sophisticated toots. BUT, they (almost) always require other sophisticated and expensive tools, that I haven't got, to build. I sometimes feel that the people showing me this stuff are building kit they they don;t need because they already have a ton of great kit. Just sayin' :O)
@thomasgibbons353
@thomasgibbons353 2 года назад
I think it’s a great idea. No nonsense, very worthy. Whatever else you do I’m sure it is also. You have good taste in tools.
@wayne6318
@wayne6318 10 месяцев назад
I know I'm way behind the times, but I'm only just venturing out into the world of woodworking. Your videos are truly amazing and instructional, thank you
@FBPrepping
@FBPrepping 5 месяцев назад
You have saved me a BUNCH of money...thanks for sharing this, buddy.
@gandhizehner
@gandhizehner 3 года назад
Was always wondering, why planers cannot be mounted to rods like routers. Great solution to the Problem: Planers should have a much better cut quality than routers for the bigger diameter of the cutting tool.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@hyundaiverna
@hyundaiverna 3 года назад
Looks like a good alternative to the router flattening jigs out there. Way faster as plane has way more cutting area, unless you go with monster router bits...
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@milkod2001
@milkod2001 2 года назад
With Router though you get much more precise work. This is still kinda free hand work with plane lifting it up and all.
@FBPrepping
@FBPrepping 5 месяцев назад
@@milkod2001 Not exactly. how are you going to mess it up if the planner is all the time at a constant height??
@tomoradomirski9842
@tomoradomirski9842 2 года назад
Great idea. Be careful with the angle grinder. The way you are using it can cost you fingers
@arthurcrosby5755
@arthurcrosby5755 3 года назад
Well done J ! I admire your clever ideas and attention to detail. Thank you for sharing this with an excellent video. 👍🏼
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@richardfrost6473
@richardfrost6473 2 года назад
Great idea much better than a router and way faster
@MEmarcenaria
@MEmarcenaria 3 года назад
Excelente ideia amigo 👍👍 parabéns 👏👏.🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@homemadetools
@homemadetools 3 года назад
Clever planing jig. We shared this video in our homemade tools forum this week :)
@fransoldman841
@fransoldman841 2 месяца назад
Fantastic idea! Thanks for sharing this!
@makena70danielmascas
@makena70danielmascas 2 года назад
Daaaaa Super ideea Great like from România
@cbpuzzle
@cbpuzzle 3 месяца назад
Making that rear rod mount had some real great techniques. The false fence for the sled was great to get the angle right.
@DanYHKim2
@DanYHKim2 Месяц назад
I don't like that it's held on with glue, though. The pressure on the planer means that the glue joint for the rear rod is under tension, which is not where a glue joint between two disparate materials is at its best.
@EclaWood
@EclaWood 3 года назад
this is so unthinkable. really creative modification
@tfwoodcraft
@tfwoodcraft 2 года назад
Love it! but I thought you were going to lose a finger reaching for that bevel cutoff on the table saw! Looks like you have it down to a science - but knowing myself i might slide the planer too far to one side and have the bars slip off the guide rails. I'd have to put some sort of stopper on the end of the bars to help prevent that.
@Jenlenjen
@Jenlenjen 2 года назад
The cinematography and the whole process is amazing! Everything is so technical!
@nodbod-b2t
@nodbod-b2t 3 месяца назад
Quite technical for sure.
@rolandgdean
@rolandgdean 3 года назад
Great video J...and a great innovation. Maybe some day tool makers will think like tool users and things like this will come with the tools we buy. Until then, we have you showing us how things cane be done if we think a bit and try new ideas. Really well done my friend.
@robertspearko8809
@robertspearko8809 Год назад
@nagamendo5655
@nagamendo5655 3 года назад
Ok, the solution is easy and straight forward. But: I would make some stoppers at the end of the metal rods to prevent them from slipping of the wooden bars. Also I would have liked some mechanism to change the hight so I could define the thickness of the workpiece. As for now I get a nice surface but this doesn´t help if the workpiece still is too thick. Exept for this it is a great video. Thx 4 sharing. Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭
@stevealtomare7545
@stevealtomare7545 6 месяцев назад
Great video, great jig. Bravo !
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 3 года назад
Brilliant, man! Fantastic work! 😃 I confess I don't like the idea of gluing the piece of wood in the back of the planer, but... I really don't see any other way. 😕 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir. Always appreciate your kind comment.
@andreasselbergs7021
@andreasselbergs7021 3 года назад
It would take not much effort to drill two 6mm holes in the back of the planer and bolt/screw the block on. I''ve made a sled to use my router on wide boards but the tiniest amount of flex in the sled results in a step in the board. I wonder how much movement will come from the 10mm rods. Maybe planing longitudinally is better than cross-cutting with the router?
@alfredomarquez9777
@alfredomarquez9777 Год назад
At least in my Makita larger than this hand planer, model 1912B, a full 4 3/8" wide planer; the rear of the body has enough space for drilling the required holes, and also perhaps, for a pair of bushings slightly larger pipe bushings, so that the plastic body is not worn against the steel rods!
@SiTengoTiempo
@SiTengoTiempo 5 месяцев назад
Very interesting idea. Thanks!
@pwolfpapaw8474
@pwolfpapaw8474 2 года назад
You are a genius.....
@AndreiIR000
@AndreiIR000 2 года назад
Most excellent sir! My full admiration!
@gilbertrobles9681
@gilbertrobles9681 2 года назад
Well hello from Texas. Nice job 👍🏽 sir. Thanks for sharing.
@ateliemaritom
@ateliemaritom 3 года назад
Super ideia gostei mesmo um forte abraço do ateliemaritom, 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@matthewbrumby5995
@matthewbrumby5995 2 года назад
champion thankyou and a great idea buddy!!!
@ironwood3201
@ironwood3201 2 года назад
Hello, it was a very interesting idea, I will definitely make this jig for myself, thanks for this video
@ekieellots770
@ekieellots770 3 года назад
This idea is simple great. I think about combining it with my doghole bench as a basis for fixing the workpiece. :) Thank you very much.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@yuriybuynovskiy6591
@yuriybuynovskiy6591 7 месяцев назад
Наконец-то увидел достойное уважения устройство. Никаких излишеств, все сведено к минимуму. Иду в магазин за электрорубанком.
@kriss1769
@kriss1769 Год назад
Great video I've seen similar things with a router but this is better.
@lindaloftus8780
@lindaloftus8780 2 года назад
That is a very practical and neat trick to plane wood. Thank you. Enjoyed video.
@viorsa8200
@viorsa8200 3 года назад
Buen trabajo , una regruesadora casera muy original , gracias por compartir tanta creatividad , un saludo cordial y por supuesto un gran like desde Narón , Galicia ( España) 🤓 😜
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@PondokKlene77
@PondokKlene77 3 года назад
High Technology, High Skill, and Masterpiece. Thank's you information.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@juliosilvasilva8736
@juliosilvasilva8736 2 года назад
Olá, ótima idéia,eu tive essa idéia e agora vendo esse vídeo ficou fácil colocar em prática
@zell9058
@zell9058 3 года назад
I would buy this as an aftermarket kit. Wide slabs are all the rage… Planing them down is just rage.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@ArisWoodcraft
@ArisWoodcraft 3 года назад
Wlow... Bagus sekali triknya
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@holohulolo
@holohulolo 2 года назад
They should make planers with this added feature. Even if they didn't provide the rod, at least provide the 2 holes that aligns back and front, with maybe a steel pipe kind of fitting inside with various thickness. This was if the hole made is too big or small from the rod you can find where you are u can switch the pipe with different thickness, like a thicker one to fit a smaller rod etc. With a jig like this, it would make planing larger and wider boards much more consistent and accurate.
@giorgiofasoulakis
@giorgiofasoulakis 2 года назад
Alcuni produttori le fanno
@DanYHKim2
@DanYHKim2 Месяц назад
Yeah. My Ryobi cordless planer doesn't have these mounting points. I'll have to think a bit on how to do a mod to make some.
@sagguharjit88
@sagguharjit88 3 года назад
Dear Sir It's very nice and perfect👍👍👍👍
@MothilalLakavath
@MothilalLakavath 3 года назад
Simple, yet great idea.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@Tukangkayu82
@Tukangkayu82 3 года назад
Good IDEA brathers 👍👍
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching brother.
@thatdudejoss3741
@thatdudejoss3741 3 года назад
Brilliant. Definitely trying this the first chance I get.
@ifiwooddesigns
@ifiwooddesigns 3 года назад
Absolutely brilliant! Never understood why people used router sleds and other methods. This is much quicker and easier.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@richardsinger01
@richardsinger01 2 года назад
Routers have one advantage. You can adjust the depth of cut much more easily than with this setup, which if I have understood correctly relies on packing up the board from below. Which isnt so easy, especially if the faces are not parallel.
@martintheron1386
@martintheron1386 2 года назад
@@richardsinger01 measure from to rails,shim board on spacers and get a happy medium.Plane,turn around and you should be alright?
@manuelr8359
@manuelr8359 Год назад
Buen invento.que sencillo y super practico
@michael.schuler
@michael.schuler 3 года назад
Brilliant. Next, expand the same concept, using long aluminum box extrusions (e.g. 80/20) as support/reference rails, and motorized head from cannibalized 12" lunchbox thickness planer. 10 times faster than typical router sled, plus readily executable dust collection via planer's dust port.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for your helpful tip sir.
@michael.schuler
@michael.schuler 3 года назад
@@j-woodworking9573 Please let me know if you succeed in creating this type of planing machine. I thought of doing it many years ago, before I had more industrial equipment. But I was always too busy with client work and other invention projects to get around to it. Since then, I've seen a RU-vid video by a man in Russian who did what you've done, but with a wider electric hand plane. A 12" planer head would make short work of most jobs. One detail you might consider: presuming you end up stripping down a 12" planer with straight knives, I think it might prove a worthwhile refinement to mount the head at a slight skew angle to the direction of the carriage travel. A shearing cut would reduce power requirement somewhat and, more importantly, provide much cleaner results, especially on highly figured stock, than a straight knife entry. Good luck! BTW, the execution of your current model is impressive.
@TL-he7vu
@TL-he7vu 2 года назад
That's a great idea! Especially since the lunch box style planers are typically much cheaper than the really large handheld electric planers.
@rollingstone3017
@rollingstone3017 3 года назад
Awesome. Way better alternative to doing it with a router!! Maybe manufacturers will adopt this.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@crashap897
@crashap897 2 года назад
Супер идея!!! Обязательно повторю!!! Спасибо!!!
@davitberishvili8062
@davitberishvili8062 2 года назад
Simple and clever solution.
@essextwo
@essextwo 2 года назад
That took a long time to get there, but damn, what a fine result.
@sajidrafique375
@sajidrafique375 3 года назад
Good Job ! Now you can add a few screws on the standoff wood you used under the workpiece to adjust for different thicknesses of workpiece..
@nicoolympia3790
@nicoolympia3790 3 года назад
This is gold ❤️
@NextWaveStudio
@NextWaveStudio Год назад
I really enjoy your channel! Thank you for putting it all together and sharing your knowledge.
@vashon100
@vashon100 Год назад
3:42 You need a SawStop if you're going to keep doing that.
@nodbod-b2t
@nodbod-b2t 3 месяца назад
Yes , his fingers were in danger when he was sawing that short piece at an angle.
@TitusLivy777
@TitusLivy777 3 года назад
Very clever solution!
@Juangaba
@Juangaba 3 года назад
Excellent videos and craftsmanship; well done Sir!
@rb-ex
@rb-ex 11 месяцев назад
real minimalism at work here. focus and simplify the problem and solution so you can maximize your capacity to solve other problems. the result is very close to planer results with little or no extra sanding
@DialecticDeveloper
@DialecticDeveloper 2 года назад
Thanks for this excellent idea. How long does the glue keep the rear piece attached? Does it move after 30, 60, or 120 minutes of use, for example?
@realpdm
@realpdm 3 года назад
Very good idea! I've wondered in the past why people who build these big router sleds for flattening don't just use a hand held planer on them. It would go much faster seems like than using a router.
@chris_thornborrow
@chris_thornborrow 3 года назад
because this will only take off a tiny layer of wood. for most boards this would require tens or even hundreds of passes. what is needed is a router jig and then a planer jig to remove the slightly uneven surface left by routers.
@andreasselbergs7021
@andreasselbergs7021 3 года назад
Most router sleds have a carrier that moves longitudinally and the router slides across the board in the carrier. Re-engineering this to slide the planer longitudinally is a much bigger job than it looks, at least it is on the sled that I built (my sled can surface boards up to 700mm wide, 2200mm long). But you're right, the router can take meaty layers off in one pass, the planer not so much.
@henryrossouw930
@henryrossouw930 3 года назад
Brilliant.This is my next build.Thanks for sharing.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@xfhghe
@xfhghe 3 месяца назад
Very nice set up. This should work well provided the 2 steel rods are straight and absolutely parallel to the flat surface of the planer and that the 2 boards that he is using as a guide are also straight, flat, and set exactly to the same height.. And of course, the surface of the table saw needs to be flat. Any error will result in steps in the planer cut. But other wise, kudos for the concept.
@5zwoodworks
@5zwoodworks 3 года назад
It's such a great idea and so simple. Great work.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@torrack
@torrack Год назад
Well it worked really good
@woodworkingprocess
@woodworkingprocess 3 года назад
thanks for the toturial very helpful for me hello new friend
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@jucimarferreira3601
@jucimarferreira3601 Год назад
Parabéns meu amigo é éselete
@mebel354barokah8
@mebel354barokah8 2 года назад
Very nice brow 👍👍
@sapelesteve
@sapelesteve 3 года назад
Great job as usual J & that looks like a very handy jig for that hand planer! 👍👍👏👏
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@michaelwhitehurst
@michaelwhitehurst 2 года назад
Awesome idea! Thanks for sharing. I have an 8 foot long workbench slab to flatten and am planning to use this with some 10 foot unistrut as my side rails. In thinking about this it seems like the guide rail on the back of the planer is not necessary since the back plate behind the blades will limit the depth of cut.
@fishhuntadventure
@fishhuntadventure 11 месяцев назад
Actually none of it is necessary. That was a whole lot of work that a couple planes, winding sticks, and a makita electric planer would do just fine (probably better) than trying machine something as if 3/8 steel rods don’t flex or bend. If you need that much production in flattening boards you need a jointer and / or an electric planer. Hand planes don’t take that long on small projects. I flattened a 5’ side table top last night in about 5 minutes with a smooth plane. Needs 5-10 more minutes with my jointer plane to be ready to sand or perhaps even leave the jointer plane finish. I do not own an electric jointer nor an electric thickness planer.
@docolemnsx
@docolemnsx 2 года назад
Nice and easy. I don't know how easy that steel may flex, but it could be easily reinforced by pushing the rods through some wood, although it will lose the ability to slide those rods through the tool for adjustment.
@josevelez7539
@josevelez7539 3 года назад
Very clever idea!
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@caryanderson7212
@caryanderson7212 3 года назад
A rubber band on each side of the metal rod will keep the rod from sliding...or you could use a round metal rod bushing with screw to lock it in place. Neat video. Thank You!!
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for your kind tips sir.
@HenryPiffpaff
@HenryPiffpaff 3 года назад
I think it's supposed to slip a little. You can see how he pulls them out bit by bit as he moves on to the next "track" when he's planing. That way he can use shorter rods. Theoretically if you had a rigid frame and washers at the ends of the rods (so they only slide forwards/backwards), you could see the planer as the only part that allows sideways motion. It would be able to slide right and left on the rods, while the rods would slide forwards an backwards on the frame. I think I'd build it that way.
@cristovaoconceicaosilva9783
@cristovaoconceicaosilva9783 2 года назад
Show de bola 👏👏👏👏
@Yes-hf6cw
@Yes-hf6cw Год назад
Have you lost your finger already after working like that with angle grinder?
@rayscrafield2106
@rayscrafield2106 2 года назад
A great idea. Thank you.
@fredmercury1314
@fredmercury1314 23 дня назад
And all you need is two perfectly flat and straight pieces of wood. _Which you cannot buy from Wickes._
@tanlee6205
@tanlee6205 3 года назад
Admirable!!!
@philliphartman2381
@philliphartman2381 2 года назад
Maybe I'm missing something. But I don't have much trouble flattening boards just using the hand planer itself without any jigs. I mean, that kind of what it is designed for.
@billbehrens7421
@billbehrens7421 Год назад
I see what you mean...i was thinking the same thing, flat is generally fine for my projects, but now I'm thinking this method makes it Perfectly flat... I'm not that picky, but i like this...
@catherineconway2387
@catherineconway2387 Год назад
That's if you have that skill. I've never figured out how to use a planer to make a board flat with each pass level with the previous one.
@carterscustomrods
@carterscustomrods 2 года назад
He is going to be the Zatiochi 🙈🙈🙈🙈 of Woodworking if he keeps using his tools this way.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 2 года назад
Sorry about that. I'll be careful sir.
@marB84
@marB84 Год назад
Nice video. Well done. Are both sides parallel to each other this way?
@chrispawlus1226
@chrispawlus1226 3 года назад
I was cringing when you used the angle grinder without a guard and I was cringing even more when you were passing your fingers directly over an unguarded router cutter!
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Sorry about that. I'll be careful. Thanks for watching sir.
@Jake-long
@Jake-long 2 года назад
Yess i'm agree with you, I've been using an angle grinder for over 30 years and I've never used it without the safety cover.
@spencersorvala1799
@spencersorvala1799 Год назад
First thing I do when I buy an angle grinder is throw the guard away
@astronemir
@astronemir Год назад
You need a tool to push over router, hand is too dangerous
@moldyzucchinis3251
@moldyzucchinis3251 Год назад
@@spencersorvala1799 I work in a metal shop. They would 100% think it was a joke if I asked where the angle grinder guard was.
@frasT2652
@frasT2652 6 месяцев назад
What adhesive did you use to mount the rear wooden block onto the planer. Thanks
@BillHartCooks.
@BillHartCooks. 3 года назад
Nice! Good idea.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@zecarapinamg
@zecarapinamg 2 года назад
Bem legal !! Ganhou mais um inscrito !!!
@jesusenrique7587
@jesusenrique7587 2 года назад
Genius!
@decentwoodart3838
@decentwoodart3838 2 года назад
good job 🇵🇰
@alans1816
@alans1816 3 года назад
This looks much better than a router sled.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@hymhymcrafts9801
@hymhymcrafts9801 3 года назад
넓은 판재 전기 대패 밀때마다 불편했었는데, 아이디어 좋으시네요 굿굿👍👍👍
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
감사합니다.
@seanhdzan9551
@seanhdzan9551 2 года назад
the steel rod needs to be stiff enough so that it does not bend to the weight of the planer, especially when suspended tight in the middle. I think there is a limit on how long the rods should be before it yields and starts drooping, affecting the consistency of the depth of the shaving.
@paulnicholas00
@paulnicholas00 2 года назад
Ok
@jawadmajeedahmed6933
@jawadmajeedahmed6933 Год назад
PERFECT for track saws
@magicchannel9318
@magicchannel9318 3 года назад
Хорошая идея. Хотя выравнивание угла в 140 градусов для задней планки было совершенно излишне - в итоге всё равно приклеил под случайным углом. С тем же успехом можно было и квадратное сечение оставить. И ещё ручки для направляющих можно бы добавить для удобства.
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@sibe7746
@sibe7746 2 года назад
Great work, why not u go for pattern rights.....
@antonioborzellega9700
@antonioborzellega9700 3 года назад
Brilliant....you should have been an engineer...
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Yes I was. Thanks for watching sir.
@kemalyorbik8692
@kemalyorbik8692 3 года назад
Süper 👏👏👏
@marcosguillermorivera5471
@marcosguillermorivera5471 3 года назад
Gran idea. Excelente
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@michaelcarroll4330
@michaelcarroll4330 2 года назад
Well done, Sir! I really like your imaginative solution👏👏👏 Like some other commentators here, I wonder about the best way to height-adjust. The options that occur to me are: • have a selection of ‘wooden feet’ that are of slightly different heights, for the wooden side pieces… and inter-change them as the piece you’re working on gets thinner; or • instead of using one long wooden piece on each side, use two - with vertical slots in both ends of each pair so you could connect them and adjust the height using a bolt and washer/nut though the slots (hard to describe without a picture! 😬😖😂) Also, was that hot glue you used to connect the wood piece to the back of the planer, or something else? Again, brilliant idea and thanks for posting👍👏
@stuartc6303
@stuartc6303 2 года назад
It looked like silicone sealant to me.
@sergiocaramit7060
@sergiocaramit7060 2 года назад
Parabéns , genial !!!!
@55klik
@55klik 2 года назад
Super !!!
@evoche
@evoche 2 года назад
Awesome!!!
@marcusviniciusdeoliveira8269
@marcusviniciusdeoliveira8269 3 года назад
Brilhante ideia. Meus parabéns e gratidão por compartilhar. Faço tábuas de corte e tenho dificuldade de plainar. Vou copiar seu projeto imediatamente. Espero que funcione com madeira dura.
@marcusviniciusdeoliveira8269
@marcusviniciusdeoliveira8269 3 года назад
Marcus 🇧🇷
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
Thanks for watching sir.
@reginaldoserra8944
@reginaldoserra8944 2 года назад
E aí Marcus, vc fez o Jig para suas tábuas? Deu certo?
@marcusviniciusdeoliveira8269
@marcusviniciusdeoliveira8269 2 года назад
@@reginaldoserra8944 ainda não meu caro , estou terminando uma encomenda de uma mesa de escritório e sinceramente tenho apanhado muito kkkkk Vou começar a produzir umas tábuas no meio de março e vou copiar seu projeto. Obrigado e grande abraço
@KotPiess
@KotPiess 2 года назад
rewelacyjna robota
@nonname8662
@nonname8662 3 года назад
와우~ 간단하면서도 완벽한 아이디어~ 저도 전기대패하나 있는데 해보고 싶네요~
@j-woodworking9573
@j-woodworking9573 3 года назад
감사합니다.
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