Plans to beam solar generated electricity wirelessly from space to homes - BBC News 

Point the beam at the Kremlin and make the world a better place. White House is #2. The real problem is if you add energy to the planet beyond what it captures naturally, you inevitably increase global warming. Some of that energy inevitably turns into heat.

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@@ThrustersXif you say so boss

@@Jacob-nc6nc Rees-Mog

This is getting crazy

Precisely!!!

The list begins here.

Millions of people being microwaved oops 🤷‍♀️

My thought exactly. I am all for the next big thing but who thought lets not warm the planet up with traditional energy production, lets just get a multi terawatt microwave laser to point at the earth. I mean we do understand how a microwave heats up things.

Power density is limited to 25% of midday sun at the equator so the beam won't fry you. Receiver will be wire mesh over farmland. UK based IECL has a similar project CASSIOPeiA.

It also makes me think of energy transfer techniques for dyson spheres.

That's what engineers are for. To think.

The beam is deadly to any living thing in its path. If the transmitter guidance goes wrong and aims the beam at houses or a hospital they burn and everybody inside dies, there would be zero chance of survival. That's why the required legislation to let this happen won't be passed, because if anything goes even slightly wrong the destruction would be worse than any artillery bombardment in history. Real engineers have looked at this and dismissed it, the only people taking it seriously are poorly attached to reality. It's a great idea until you look at what could go wrong and how much cheaper it is to just put the solar panels on a roof or on the ground.

​@@FireAngelOfLondon yes its way too difficult to think of any possible ways to prevent this. like simply turning it off if its misaligned. we will build the most complicated shit in space and we simply won't know how to turn it off when its misaligned. good thing we have "real engineers" looking into this

you put the power plant far away from population area or you can build special tower of several km high to collect the beam

Don't you think that our "digital" and satelite TV was like a pre-requisites to all of this? And then the Virgin Space rockets too... woo hoo...! Space trip for 10 pounds ! LOL..... Why even go to London? Let's see the sun !

O'Henry Sullivan: Laser war with rays-helix-fan beamed down to targets 🎯 below.

and that's ONE reason it's impractical.

@@TubeMeisterJC 100% . Though it would make an excellent The Onion article to have the headline read “European Space agency announces plans to create deathlaser”

Sim City was totally my first thought when I saw this video!! Haha

With all the problems with the weather, now they want to create a constant hot plasma stream to slice the atmosphere?

Yeah, and now they want to play it for real with our lives. Blasting us with microwaves. Thanks for that. Another pointless money wasting endeavour to further rinse the taxpayer no doubt anyway!

Well microwave radiation isn't harmful to humans

@@haywire4686 neither are high powered electromagnetic beams

There's a great sim that can show you. It's called Sim City, at least the 2000 version was able to simulate it.

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Hammers are pretty dangerous. They are everywhere. Grow up

This sounds like something out of movie

@@crzune There's all kinds of dangerous things in movies.

@@crzune this isn’t a movie

That’s not realistic

@@TuneyDarkothey plan to make this 1000x more powerful to actually have it work from space. Can fry any person outside with that. In a big city directing this down a few streets could kill a thousand people.

Or Cobra Commander

Someone understands through the BS

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Doubt birds can be harmed, birds are normally bothered by more major effects on nature

They don't seem to mind the microwaves from mobile phones

it would be fine look at how powerlines work

Basically some sunlight gets filtered out by the atmosphere, having the solar panels outside of atmosphere would allow them to generate more energy with the same kind of panel.

Your grammar not great is it

Starlink and GPS are good examples of what deals with space and is cost effective.

@@marcp8801 fuck this comment they probably know multiple languages

You ever heard of satellite TV and internet?

these people have gone mad

I forget the names but there was a few high profile startups that received millions in funding for something like this to be used in people's homes to eliminate the need for plug sockets. They all failed and went bankrupt. I'm shocked that the ESA is seriously considering this.

@@vrclckd-zz3pv It's a mad idea, you just can't project energy with losing most of it, and what you lose is dangerous. We're better off focusing on fusion

those are concentrated beams which don't spread.. it's not a red flag, it's a beginning of something new... also there's microwaves everywhere already at low intensities but it's not doing anything to anyone

@@hardikb15 microwave energy falls off at a rate of 1/d² where d is the distance that it has been transmitted. It's going to lose a ton of energy from that alone. I don't think it's dangerous but it's not going to be efficient at all. Plus like renewables it's going to be dependent on the weather. Water molecules absorb microwaves, that's how microwave ovens work. One humid days you're going to have less energy because it's being absorbed into the atmosphere.

Funny, but there's no way humans could build something that bug in space

As long as we don't point the beam at anything that is mostly water it will be fine.

You are 70% water what happens to water when put in the micro wave? Cup stays cold but the water is boiling, bones are like China, blood is like water! They could boil anyone they wanted to and call it a sudden departure and no one would be any wiser

@@DanielThomasHutton what happens when a seagull flies in the beam? 🍗 Free KFC

@@vrclckd-zz3pv It probably wouldn't be finger licking good I'm afraid.

How about having a packed lunch outside on a mountain top, using your mobile phone to set a timer; then you food is cooked by an massive beam and then done in just 10 seconds. Fried bacon sandwiches could be eaten on Everest without any problems at all.

​@@thevikingwarrior fried bacon sandwich? You'd have a fried human. Inside and out.

Good luck

It would be tragic if this was a one shot deal especially if you died as a kid. If were here now there's a chance we'll be back later. Attempt to make a permanent impact if that is not the case though. Advancements in genetics, medicine and robotics will help extend lifespan as well if we make it that far. Then we can start preserving veteran thinkers.

@@HappyFunTimeMedia That would be a catastrophic problem. Imagine we have acquired the technology to be immortal or live for a few centuries but only powerful and rich can afford it .

@@HappyFunTimeMedia A world where end of lifespan isn't the end of life would cause revolt .

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Principally correct, but... 1B EUR buys just 1GW of solar btw. Same for onshore wind. 333MW of offshore wind. 200MW of biogas. And just 100MW of nuclear.

​@@luc_libv_verhaegen Thanks for your comment. Not sure whats the point you are making tho.

@@--DM Just trying to give you a perspective of what these things actually cost :) Also, solar (in germany) has a capacity factor of 11.5%, onshore wind 25-30%, offshore wind 50-60%. Biogas is probably 90%, but depending on whether biogas is burned directly, or biomethane is being created and burned in more efficient peaker plants, the electrical efficiency is 35%, or 50+%. Nuclear has a theoretical maximum capacity factor of 90% (18months run time, then 2 months reloading and reshuffling of fuel rods), but the reality is much closer to 70% (france 2021 - 2022 will be much much worse). Also, Tesla megapacks cost 500usd per kWh (2021 figures, 1.6M for 3.2MWh of expensive NMC cells). You can get LiFePO4 cells with about a kWh of capacity, delivered to germany with customs for 120EUR. So in 1-2ys time grid level lifepo4 based storage could cost about 100eur per kWh. So now you have the facts and tools to divvy up that theoretical 100B EUR/USD/GBP, and you can put any pie-in-the-sky energy project in relationship to what it would cost to actually use renewables instead. A healthy mix of renewables, after including the respective capacity factors, deliver twice the real world electricity of nuclear. And the quoted 10k EUR for 1kW of nuclear generation capacity is just the construction cost.

​@@luc_libv_verhaegen Thanks for your reply and data. I am not disputing any alternative energy sources. I am simply comparing pretending to solve a problem with actually effectively and efficiently solving the problem. My point being is that if humanity would really want to solve the problem, there are already real solutions (like producing highly efficient solar panels at cost) that can make a real positive impact. What I am talking about is a theory that can be implemented. If the world (or G7 or G20) would actually put a real effort to fix the issue - it would not be too difficult to identify the top 20% of the most energy-producing roofs that could utilize solar pannels and directly feed the grid at or below $.02 per kWh. Since most consumers pay more than $.15 this would make a real difference. Now, I understand that producing 2-4 GWh per day of basically free electricity will not solve the underlaying issues, world hunger, or greed. But it is a real solution to make a real positive impact. Compare it to the idea of this "lets microwave the planet" bonanza and here is the contrast. I am not disputing any alternative energy sources. I am simply comparing pretending to solve a problem with actually effectively and efficiently solving the problem.

@@--DM I'd say your thinking is completely wrong. The real way to do this is to base the solar collectors on the moon's surface, with a few orbital auxiliaries to cover some inconvenient orbital geometry. The beams, in which you could stand without feeling anything more than a bit of warmth, would not "microwave the planet," as you have put it; and merely painting the ground beneath the receiving antennae white would be enough to reflect unwanted heat back into space. Even with existing technology, this would provide enough electricity to give every person on earth---and probably quite a few additional persons---the way of life currently enjoyed in the most-developed countries. We could use it to power electrical equipment to draw carbon from the atmosphere to manufacture gasoline, limestone, and God-knows-what else. Accordingly, we could liberate ground-bound carbon---Earth's greatest treasure---via use of "fossil fuels," without affecting the level of atmospheric carbon. The solar panels on the moon could be manufactured from the lunar surface itself. What you prefer is digging up and otherwise vandalizing the earth to place silicon panels on every rooftop and to manufacture electric batteries that will never provide as much energy as fossil fuels. You want our civilization to remain an inefficient dump, because you can't appreciate the simple fact that the Earth is moving through a photon sea, continuously refilled by the sun, which won't be burning out anytime soon, and that all we need to exploit it is, in effect, a few extraterrestrial "mirrors."

You're forgetting you're 70% water water boils faster than egg, you might have an omelette but 70% of you including you're BL oo d would also be boiled

lol that would require high intensities of microwaves but yeah rather convenient

you cooking eggs in your pocket?

The big advantage would be constant energy. But wouldn't it be cheaper to build solar farms on land around the equator and beam it around the world?

@@AORD72 depends if we can get launch cost down. If we develop fully reusable rockets (that are being worked on now) then space based solar could be done more cheaper.

What if someone would to focus the beam a little more and swivel the beam around? 🤔

@@AORD72 offplanet we would have access to this resource around the clock rain or shine here on the planet it would be TOTALLY uneffected by atmospheric events here on the planet

Cool, first time I have heard about this one.

Nah, it's just like 5G but a billion times more energetic. 🤣🤣🤣

Yup it's a weapon they always lie about these things

A new toy for hackers

Simple: You evaporate

The actual non conspiracy answer (hello, anybody here? Lol) is that the amount of radiation is relatively small and within safe limits, especially relative to the sun (system only has a quarter of the amount of radiation the sun has). Experiments on birds have shown no negative effect even over multiple generations. You also design the system with multiple safety controls so in effect it's impossible (or at least, it should be impossible) for the system to go off target. Also, unlike what is shown in the thumbnail and majority of depictions, there's no "laser" that focuses on one specific small spot. The receiver literally needs to be 10km wide, which is a challenge to it's feasibility anyway. In essence the power is spread over such a wide area it's safe, even if you're right in the middle of it. Btw, I'm no great advocate of this technology and I think it will need many decades to become possible but even then it's iffy, but yeah because of climate change we really don't have that long. I just hope billions aren't wasted on this instead of research on improving actually viable options like wind, solar and nuclear (like Hyperloop, way worse than this, that would never be able to work safely, ever).

microwaves have the highest transmission rate and are impacted least by atmospheric attenuation. Im sure calculations have already been made to ensure this is possible.

I think thats why its converted to microwaves, although I have no deep understanding of that. I assume these are not fraudsters with actual reps to care about so I imagine that is one of the main issues they have planned for. They can loose huge amounts of energy in attenuation, the only thing that matters is if what reaches us is worth it or not.

Why not just put a mirror in space?

@@slaapkonijn58 because of "atmospheric attenuation". It's a lot worse with light and you don't really want to be lighting up the sky 24/7.

The wiki for Microwaves has a graph that explains the issue with atmospheric attenuation and shows that it depends on the microwaves frequency. Microwaves in around 200Ghz don't really suffer from atmospheric attenuation. So they'll be picking their frequency very carefully, as they'll also have to ensure it doesn't interfere with other microwaves we use for communication and radar. The wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave

So? Cheap electricity *and* crowd control. :)

Weapons of mass distruction ;)

Therefore it will be built and eventually tested on people. Just as nuclear fission was.

no mate, not how it will work

@@GNXClone haha totally. And then there will be debates about whether or not countries are developing it for "peaceful energy purposes". Its an easy way to subtly weaponise space

Who says it needs to be stationary? Have multiple arrays in a circling orbit and multiple receivers around the world, always a sattelite and receiver in range of each other.

Good point.

@@Hans-gb4mv also good point.

@@Hans-gb4mv still, double the satellites and receivers would probably also double the initial investment. And although one is always operational one will also still be in the dark. So does it actually make a difference?

The satellites could relay each other from sunny to the dark side with microwave or a wavelength more energy dense.

The first steps are already made. E.g. ISS and the Mars rovers are part of it too.

& Tidal

You don’t pay for the suns energy, you pay for the infrastructure put in place that allows you to use the electricity. You don’t pay for petrol, you pay for the drilling, processing and distribution of raw oil. The energy is “free”, the people, machines, and materials used to bring it to us are not.

@@ascgazz7347 😂

@Sam on it

@@samulator of course! It’s so obvious, just do everything for free. What do you do for free?

Maintenance and repair doesn't do itself lol

Star Wars.

I felt it too.

I hope you read this message and take it into consideration I’m not telling you this to scare you I’m telling you this because I love you I don’t need to know you to love you the rapture is about to take place they will be 7 years where the gates of hell will be opened on this earth it will literally be hell on earth you must repent turn away from your sins accept Jesus as your lord and saviour believe he has been raised on the 3rd day call on his name and you will be saved it’s not about religion it’s about a relationship

as we should be

That is exactly what I was thinking

According to one paper I read at uni, the total amount of materials required to build the sphere doesn't exist in our solar system. When you consider the absolutely colossal dimensions of it, somewhere around 5 million miles in diameter and that it would be holding an incredible amount of heat so would need some exotic metals to survive, it's just not possible. Then there's the fact that moving trillions of tonnes of mass around the solar system is going to change the orbits of what planets are left

We're not, even by a long stretch.

@@stevec6427 i'm sure humans of the future will tackle this problem

i have been biting my tongue reading these comments. im all for taking a second look at the pryamids. but thats a conversation noones willing to have on a mainstream platform like this. MONEY + CHARGING YOU gets in the way

Tower of Babylon....gosh.... Very sci fi.

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Chicago world's fair not sure what year lit up with tesla energy devices and a coliseum that held 300,000 people funny it was torn down right after. Today your lucky to get a coliseum to hold 100,000 people.

Nikola Tesla's World System transmitter was running at 4Hz, as he maintained that biological organisms were unaffected by the transmitted energy at this frequency. Compare this to GHz microwaves.. It resonantly energised the cavity beneath the ionosphere, in the manner of a 'pump' (4Hz is essentially half the Schumann resonance, i.e. the frequency that electromagnetic waves travel round the Earth) that merely needed to reinforce the wave every 2 cycles, making it extremely efficient, indeed his designs were always optimised to this end. The finished system was planned to be powered entirely by hydroelectric stations (he was the engineer that first installed such turbines at Niagra). It could reportedly be used to remotely power machines on land, at sea or in the air.. I wonder why it never caught on? Oh that's right, as you mentioned - he offered it for free.

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well on the vehicle one, if they drive through it, they probably deserve what they get! The rest is potentially good points though, although another comment is talking about heat dissipation problems in space, with those panels, so it's probably not going to be destroying the solar system before it destroys itself, would seem to be HUGE issues with actually making the panels functional in space & the asteriods would likely result in no power from them rather than earth destruction, a problem that would potentially take months to years to fix, leaving everyone without that power for that whole time! It's also just dumb! Check out the Australia-Asia Power Link to see the realistic alternative that will be producing as much energy as this project dreams of, but it will actually be happening & fully operational at that level by 2028, so why bother with the space crap & dangers involved?

I hope you read this message and take it into consideration I’m not telling you this to scare you I’m telling you this because I love you I don’t need to know you to love you the rapture is about to take place they will be 7 years where the gates of hell will be opened on this earth it will literally be hell on earth you must repent turn away from your sins accept Jesus as your lord and saviour believe he has been raised on the 3rd day call on his name and you will be saved it’s not about religion it’s about a relationship

Why do some people always think of what could go wrong but not what could go right? That's a sad life.

@@aliciafields-worldtravelle8248 why do some people think you can have "good" things without having to think about the "bad"? thats a stupid life.

@@foreign-king9171 it's a good positive, happy life.

look up how power lines work

Orbital solar energy would slightly warm up the planet, but using coal or gas to produce electricity warms up the planet so much more, and they also poison the air.

Burning fossil fuels also adds heat to the Earth system, as well as adding greenhouse gasses that trap that heat on Earth. You're right, gathering energy in space and sending it to Earth adds energy to Earth, but it could replace energy we're liberating down here anyway.

speaking of heat, how tf are they going to dissipate all that heat in space ? Sounds like a pipe dream or the weapon from Real Genius

The sun continually heats the Earth.

@@tomservo5007 Radiators. Probably very huge ones, which would be crazy heavy and would be expensive to send.

damage

oil cartel made him vanish along with the patent for it, i remember he said you could use seawater or snow and it would still work...

@@aerisgainsborough2141 It's HHO solution. It's possible but not practical due to energy density issue. People whine all day about milage of Telsa. A car that runs on "water" will need to refuel every 30 miles. lol

@@aerisgainsborough2141 oligarch got rid of him long ago

@@aerisgainsborough2141 As a chemical engineer, I have never seen any research discovering enough heating value in water to have that heat extracted for power generation. Maybe the water engine car maker has conveniently vanished into an asylum to shield himself from probing investigators as his claims would have debunked the Third Law of Thermodynamics.

my grandfather made a car run on water and one on mixed water and petrol steaam they kicked him out of canada for being a threat to system

@Monique Bizzell I'm not a researcher my guy. I don't know everything. I appreciate the idea. Good to know.

@Monique Bizzell I've been researching what hydrogen can do for a few months now and I also believe we will start the move from carbon over to hydrogen soon. I have thought about what they say in this video but I didn't expect it to come first

There's already a project in progress that will be providing the same amount of power as this project dreams of, due to be fully operational, at full scale (20GW) by 2028. It simply builds a large solar farm in the desert, then sends the power to an even larger battery & then on to populations via a long DC power cable $22.6 billion US TOTAL project cost! edit: corrected MW to GW

I can see a hydrogen plant from seawater massive efficient fuel cells release clean water out for irrigation

@@mehere8038 20MW/h is what the panels will produce per M^2 but how big is the solar panel surface area?

The ionosphere to be exact.There is a correlation with the Schumanns resonounce which apparently is moving out of its baseline of 7.83htz. Waiting for it to plataeu at 963htz-the GOD frequency range,when it will facilitate telepathic abilities and samadhi.

No this is an alternative idea that Nikola Tesla came up with as well.

If we can belive what Tesla found, then you have to also accept that we cant use this "field" because its suppost to have a pretty negative effects on living organisms to use that! (been a couple of years since i red into that, but this "fact" stuck!)

@@tr7b410 not now the pyramids are crumbled... guna be waiting a LONG time for them to get rebuilt.

@@sa.8208 Well maybe another society in say 5k years will give the Pyramids the face-lift they deserve. Than when the Schumanns resonounce of 963htz manifests as it did during the last Satya yuga,everyone gets; HIGH-HIGH-HIGH.

Let’s count the ways, the plan our next interventions to try and fix the unintended consequences. They’re like gollum chasing that ring.

Soup, perhaps. Or was it beans? Whatever they threw on that painting.

Tesla would have figured this out a long time ago.. the problem was that the cappialist couldnt figure out how to sustain their profit model if this ever came about

Many of Teslas Patents are locked away In vaults In a the USA. Loads of UFO/UAP sightings and funnily enough guy Wagner had a Patent for the design and model of a flying machine did Tesla figure out how's to manipulate gravity and intelligent government folks used this patent and Teslas ideas together Seems logical in the present day and now we call them UAPs?? Remember we are only taught narratives in history.

it's actually purple

@@fortytwo244 close enough

transfer over large distances needs to use DC cables. Look at the Australia-Asia Power Link to see an actual practical application of this, transferring power 4,500kms from the desert solar panels to Singapore & yes, MUCH cheaper & easier & faster to build when the panels are on earth!

We have technology these days... You realise this right? So what would happen is... mother nature would step in...see that the circuit has been broken, and cease the current. The same way your light switch works. If you cut the wire from the bulb it doesn't suddenly fire light out if the power cord onto the ground. It just stops working. It's a circuit man... A circuit! It can't transfer the energy to anything BUT the base station... The laws of physics prevent that. It won't suddenly morph into some crazy assed space laser... Yes clouds are transparent to non ionising radiation... Well, mostly, they might lower the effectiveness, slightly. And if something like say an aircraft blocked the beam it would simply stop transferring energy. The same way a mobile charger does not continue to charge your hand or the air above it when you take your phone off it. It can only transfer energy to the battery... At the very least before making ideas jump into your head you should say 'i wonder if a huge team of physicists realised this thing I'm going to say now?' Yes, yes they did.

How does it form a circuit? If you have a microwave antenna for communication, for sending internet, it fires in a particular direction whether there is a receiver on the other end or not. A radio broadcast takes many kilowatts, only a tiny fraction of which end up in a receiver. Water droplets during a rainstorm also generally interfere, although maybe not with the frequency they plan on using.