Plant-Based Protein: Are Pea and Soy Protein Isolates Harmful?

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What are the different impacts of plant protein versus animal protein, and do the benefits of plant based proteins translate to plant protein isolates?
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@NutritionFactsOrg 3 года назад

If you don’t want to wait for all nine of the videos in this series to roll out on NutritionFacts.org, you can get them right now in a digital download from my webinar a few months ago. drgreger.org/collections/videos/products/plant-based-and-cultivated-meat-digital

@PlantChompers 3 года назад

You are a national treasure.

@scorpion55x 2 года назад

In your video you state that "plant protein has not been associated with increased levels of the cancer-promoting growth hormone IGF-1," however, a recent randomized controlled study of 37 patients with type II diabetes found that not to be the case. The researchers noted, "The most striking finding is that plant protein induces similar increases of IGF-1 as animal protein does....our results suggest that differences between plant vs. animal protein intake and cancer or cardiovascular risk do not arise from their effects on components of the IGF-1-system but protective properties of other components present in plant-based diets." The study is titled, "Similar dietary regulation of IGF-1- and IGF-binding proteins by animal and plant protein in subjects with type 2 diabetes."

@edrabogucki401 2 года назад

@@scorpion55x Who funded that study? Just asking 🤔

@scorpion55x 2 года назад

@@edrabogucki401 Grant funding from the government of Germany, Federal Ministry of Food and Agriculture, which oversees all food including meat, vegetables, fruits, etc.

@bepham5725 2 года назад

có

@The-KP 2 года назад

This was the most coherent microlecture on the relative benefits and risks of plant protein vs animal products I've heard yet. I'll be sharing as widely as I can.

@afterburner3999 Год назад

Well You Cant Stop Eating Unless You Dont Want To Be Around Much Longer.

@eelkeaptroot1393 3 года назад

Ok, score one for plant-based burgers! Thanks for sharing, doc!

@hynjus001 3 года назад

Technically score 2. He did another video showing the healthiness of plant burgers.

@nicolao.dos.santos 3 года назад

@@hynjus001 I don't have big muscles, but why would I? I am a muscian and Capoeirista, what good would it be? I am still able to do demanding workouts and acrobatics, practise a lot and recover fast. Not everyone has to look like the Hulk. But there absolutely are muscular vegans and world class athletes if you'd care to seach for them. Anyway, all the best

@linkinl1 3 года назад

@Black Sperm Well i got a pretty decent build, so it's definitely possible to build muscle on a plant-based diet if that is what you want

@linkinl1 3 года назад

@Black Sperm i don't think im delusional , I have gotten several complements for my right bicep from different people lol. Thought i am not 100% vegan, im just plant-based

@trevorregay9283 3 года назад

@Black Sperm Watch the movie "Game Changers" if you get a chance......one of the strongest men in the world is a VEGAN.....so your argument about eating animal protein for strength is ridiculous.....and not only that, plant based diet provides you with LOTS of endurance as well.......

@chiyerano 3 года назад

Thank you for this information. I have often wondered about isolated plant protein and its health effects or benefits.

@FamousNothing 3 года назад

Great to know. You can get things like TVP or TSP at stores and make your own plant based burgers/meats. That's what I do but I leave out all the extra fat. I've been trying to perfect my fat-free alternative meats since so many of the recipes call for a ton of oils to make the 'meat' taste good!

@nikolaspineda7571 2 года назад

And cheaper too🙌

@dawnavandernoot2869 2 года назад

I know I have made a very simple black bean burger with crushed walnuts. It’s good and men like this burger so I’m saying we can do this. One ingredient that is a must have in a plant-based burger is smoked paprika. I ran out and it did not taste the same.

@BergerandLeggman 9 месяцев назад

Hes got a vid on the “protein myth” too. Great watch.

@Joseph1NJ 3 года назад

Wow, this is the first time in all these years watching these videos that I can say my mind is blown. I honestly did not expect this outcome. Interestingly, the researchers concluded, that they did not ﬁnd a signiﬁcant difference between protein isolate products and whole food sources, “suggesting that the cholesterol-lowering effects are at least, in part, attributable to the plant protein itself rather than just the associated nutrients.” So, it’s not just because plant protein travels with fiber or less saturated fat. Plant proteins break down into a different distribution of amino acids; and so, it’s like if you give people arginine, an amino acid found more in plant foods, that alone can bring down people’s cholesterol. And even plant protein concentrates used in these products aren’t pure protein, retaining a few active compounds such as phytosterols and antioxidants, which also can have beneficial effects.

@jamescalifornia2964 3 года назад

~ Interesting. Thanks 👌

@Joseph1NJ 3 года назад

@@jamescalifornia2964 The above was taken from the NF website, under the video click on "View transcript"

@jamescalifornia2964 3 года назад

@@Joseph1NJ - 👍

@gzmz1993 3 года назад

I can’t find one other plant based doctor who agrees with that. There’s lots of fat and sat. Fat and sodium. I’d like to know more and I’d also like to know who funded that study.

@gzmz1993 3 года назад

Honestly it sounds great I’d love to have an impossible whopper now and then and know it’s not as bad as it was originally mad out to be but I find it hard to believe that all these isolated don’t do some harm. Mostly I’d love to know who funded that study.

@jhadesdev9576 3 года назад

It's surprising, I thought that these products would be much more unhealthy. Of course, there is way too much salt, and the cocunut fat sucks. Nothing beats lentils but its good to know that on an occasional basis, it's not so bad. Awesome series Dr Greger, thanks for sharing.

@kindcounselor 2 года назад

Well said.

@justinw1765 2 года назад

You can also buy the just concentrated pea protein that has very little else in it. And you can add some of that to say a combo lentil quinoa type patty you make, and that way you can control what goes in there.

@Hi-Five-Ghost Год назад

@@justinw1765do you know how plant protein is made? It’s not ground up peas… It’s done on a cellular level, breaking protein bonds, etc. They have to use harsh chemicals to do this. It’s so toxic it’s not allowed to be done in America, so it’s done in Chinas so it can be dumped in their waters. There’s a reason why REAL dieticians wouldn’t recommend eating it. It’s even toxic to rats… RATS. Better stick to Whole Foods plant based because beyond meat/ Impossible meat is no way good for you.

@ginettenadeau8549 3 года назад

Thank you so much, Dr Greger, for all you do for the benefit of everyone... and the planet!

@jeanneamato8278 3 года назад

So glad you have our backs.and fronts. And innards.

@tcconnection 2 года назад

Lol 👍🏻

@Hi-Five-Ghost Год назад

Beyond Meat is toxic to rats lmao. Pea protein has to be made in china because the chemical process has to be done on a cellular level. The chemicals used is so toxic it’s dumped in Chinas waters… LMAO. Oooh it doesn’t have saturated fats… But it’s okay that it has chemicals that most American consumers have no idea how it’s made. Metals etc. That rats won’t eat it, I’m sure that’s better,

@IMMasterStrategist 11 месяцев назад

🤣 🤣 🤣

@TheLuizablocker 9 месяцев назад

He has my heart. ❤

@ReflectedMiles 7 месяцев назад

Fact-checking can _never_ be set aside no matter the speaker. Bean and rice burritos routinely have more sodium, sometimes far more sodium, than an Impossible burger patty. So.... he does well when he gets his data and comparatives correct; not so much when he doesn't--like anyone else in the diet wars.

@zummingsky Год назад

As an occasional consumer soy protein isolates, I am concerned about their manufacturing process - the extraction of fat from soy beans is commonly done with a toxic solvent called hexane, which I would not be excited to consume. It would be great to have an analysis on that. E.g., would hexane be healthier than organic eggs or dairy?

@insightandintuition276 10 месяцев назад

Dr Gregg er should win a noble prize for all his love, and dedication to trying to educate and encourage people 💖👍🏻🦋

@ElinevanderLaan 3 года назад

Love my soy curl shawarma every now and then

@Dindonmasker 3 года назад

They serve crazy good "mushroom floss" skewers at my local shawarma place!

@Hypokrites 3 года назад

Where can I find “soy curls”?

@brennanbourne 3 года назад

Amazon! Butler's website also has them!

@heatherjenson6120 3 года назад

Soy Curls are sold at Natural Grocers (in the US), also on Amazon

@TKevinBlanc 2 месяца назад

For what it's worth, Soy Curls aren't protein isolate. They have exactly the same carbs, fat, protein and fiber as whole beans.

@AutumnBRreeze 3 года назад

Beyond Sausage is quite tasty, I crumble and sprinkle it in veggie burritos.. for extra flavor.

@AutumnBRreeze 3 года назад

Well, obviously they are going to try an replicate the flavor of the animal versions, and since majority of the tasty flavors from animal flesh comes from fat & plant spices they usually can replicate the flavors successfully.

@AutumnBRreeze 3 года назад

@BenBenson Great and that's awsome, but keep in mind most of these meat substitutes are replicas of the oringinals(derived from animals) Therefore, to virtue signal, and be appalled because the replicas taste too similar to the oringinals is asinine; The products are obviously not meant for individuals who feel that way.

@juliarose7236 3 года назад

@BenBenson you were giving that air off though, so her comment wasn't a far jump. Communicating well will help you get your point across. Side note: I'll never understand why people get so touchy about such stupid things. Like Dr. Greger says, it's important to not unnecessarily stress yourself out. Calm yourself

@adiohead 3 года назад

Awesome! This is the news I've been waiting for.

@redpandacoding 3 года назад

When it comes to just me, I don't like to eat these replacement products any more, I'm all in on whole foods. But they help me to slowly nudge family members into a vegan diet. Good to have some knowledge to back it up!

@jamescalifornia2964 3 года назад

_Beyond Burger_ is very tasty 👌

@redpandacoding 3 года назад

@@jamescalifornia2964 Well, perhaps, but when I first put one into my pan at home, I was surprised at how greasy it was... And filling my home with all sorts of smells I had banned from it quite some ago. I guess that sort of product is just not for me any more.

@georgehornsby2075 3 года назад

Getting strong Jeff Goldblum vibes but great video. I wonder if quorn protein has the same effect as other plant protein sources since it's exracted from fungus?

@justinw1765 2 года назад

They add crappy other ingredients to those products, which is why I avoid them. But I have no problem with fungus/mushroom proteins in a general sense.

@Dindonmasker 3 года назад

You thaught me too well Dr Greger. When i saw the title i immediately said "it depends to what it's compared to" without thinkin too much. If course there are healthier foods but if you want that taste and feeling it's hard to go for something else.

@nonconsensusmedicine4755 3 года назад

Soy protein isolate is a potent cortisol suppressor. Not something you want to eat too much of if you have an inflammatory disorder.

@lukasf5256 3 года назад

Does anyone here have any insights on rice protein isolate and arsen? Thanks for the great vidoe ! Cheers

@Pyriphlegeton 3 года назад

@Max Ragged It's irrelevant whether it's natural. Cyanide is natural, so is cancer or lethal birth defects.

@anambivalentenemy 3 года назад

So,how healthy is vegan protein powder consumption? Do you reccomend it,or we should be extra aware of its protein sources? Thank you Dr Greger!

@richardf911 2 года назад

Watch the video again ... he answers your question there.

@Mimijona 3 года назад

Oh wow, this was unexpected, I thought it would be the other way around. Cool to know that these things are not as bad to indulge in occasionally.

@monster762 3 года назад

The worst thing about these products is all the stupid comments you'll get from your nonvegan friends.

@hmarat9 3 года назад

I am not so good with English, so I couldn't understand, is it okay to eat soy isolate protein? Thanks in advance :)

@monster762 3 года назад

@@hmarat9 for good health it's best to eat mostly whole plant foods.

@hmarat9 3 года назад

@@monster762 So, the isolated soy protein is not good thing for long term health? :)

@monster762 3 года назад

@@hmarat9 it's fine once or twice a week, probably not a good idea to eat it every day. Stick to mostly whole plant foods or minimally processed food like tofu or tempeh.

@JesusOurKing Год назад

Impressive video. I've substituted meat with soybeans, lentils, and chickpeas. Additionally, I include soy protein powder, and occasionally hemp or pea protein powder post-exercise. Initially, I had concerns about losing weight and strength. However, I've experienced a maximum of 7% strength loss during strength training, while my cardio endurance has notably increased, with a 50% or more extension in burnout time.

@officialtalkingben Год назад

So do u recommend soy protein over whey protein?

@shrimperlincs3395 2 года назад

They don't show you absolute risk increase as it's so small that you wouldn't bother giving up meat. Also what they don't mention is that these 'meat eaters' in the studies are in fact Standard American Diet eaters, which is to say ultra processed food, sodas. These people are likely obese, have metabolic syndrome, hyperinsulinemia etc. These are more likely factors in the increase cancer risk.

@syedzhashmi 3 года назад

That's fantastic news. I love impossible burgers. So whenever I crave a burger I go for impossible burgers.

@isabellezablocki7447 3 года назад

Yes, the only problem with Impossible Burgers is that they use GMO corn.

@EdgeMasterPro 3 года назад

Not to mention the high saturated fat.

@BadgerBabyBoy 3 года назад

I didn’t watch the video but I’m checking comments to see what the doc said, is he saying mock meat is healthy? Because it so isn’t It doesn’t help our case to say these things

@isabellezablocki7447 3 года назад

@@BadgerBabyBoy why don't you watch the video!

@syedzhashmi 3 года назад

@@BadgerBabyBoy The doctor just compared vegi protein vs animal protein. He did not say impossible burger was better. He just said vegi protein is better than animal protein for health.

@ScrambleBandOfficial 3 года назад

What about the concern raised in your older videos regarding soy protein isolate and a spike in igf-1?

@ladym.9268 3 года назад

That was kind of addressed when the research found a bump in igf1 after 16gm of soy protein. So keep it to a decent amount, not too much and not too little.

@ScrambleBandOfficial 3 года назад

@@ladym.9268 Oh thanks. How much would 16g of soy protein be? Like in terms of one soy burger or one block of tofu?

@ladym.9268 3 года назад

@@ScrambleBandOfficial I think the video touched on that. And Google can also tell you.

@007vsMagua 3 года назад

One fact concerning soy protein vs beef protein is that it takes about twenty pounds of soy protein to produce one pound of beef protein. A soy based diet is healthier, more efficient for human consumption, and better for our planet's environment.

@justinw1765 2 года назад

Personally speaking, soy really bothers me unless it is first cultured or fermented. I have no issues with things like tempeh, soy yogurt, miso, tamari, etc (well natto kind of grosses me out and so haven't tried it yet), but soy milk, straight soy beans, and concentrated soy proteins make me mucousy and gassy AF. Tofu is kind of in between these, but closer to the first group, for me. My theory as to the reason why soy raises IGF levels, in large amounts, similar to meat etc, is because some of the proteins in soy are very, very hard to fully break down and so the undigested particles cause an inflammation and mucous response (to try to help move it out of the body, like it does with a foreign invading pathogen causing infection). This is where the culturing and fermenting come into play here--the probiotic microbes essentially help to predigest those very hard to digest proteins, thus making it easier for your body to fully digest/assimilate it. This is very similar to the A1 casein protein found in regular cow milk (but not in goats, sheep, buffalo, or more ancient breed of cows). Regular cow milk, makes me really mucousy, but the yogurt form doesn't bother me at all. I have no issue with pea protein concentrate.

@mitchgourley3082 3 года назад

I was ready to quit the plant based diet until I found beyond meat. That stuff is delicious!

@SSSyndrome214 3 года назад

Thank god for Michael Greger.

@universalsoldier2293 3 года назад

Good to know, since I'm watching this while eating my "taco" salad with "meat" crumbles from Trader Joe's. My diet is usually very simple and plain--think raw broccoli and homemade hummus for breakfast--but I do enjoy a bit of a treat every now and then. Better than running to Taco Bell like I once would have, right?

@mikean7074 3 года назад

Broccoli is my favorite thing to dip in hummus! Makes a great snack or side dish for any meal and the humus makes the raw broccoli much more palatable

@alexisbeshara2321 3 года назад

Pshh, you can get great whole plant food meals at Taco Bell!

@GummyBall097 3 года назад

@@alexisbeshara2321 would you mind elaborating how?

@GummyBall097 3 года назад

whenever I go to taco bell, i usually just get cheesy bean/rice burritos and beef burritos

@alexisbeshara2321 3 года назад

@@GummyBall097 you can get bean burritos, potato tacos, bean/rice crunchwraps; pretty much any menu item you can make plant based by swapping the meat for beans, rice, and or potatoes, skip the cheese and sour cream, and add tomatoes and guac. If you use their app it's even easier to customize. They are also going to have Beyond crumbles soon, so you will have a vegan meat substitute!

@antonulybin389 3 года назад

Hi, doctor Greger! Can you make a video about studies concerning connection between polyunsaturated fats rich foods like nuts and seeds and low testosteron, please?

@ima7333 3 года назад

That is such a cool study. It makes me happy to revert to my Asian breakfast of rice + veggies w/ some tofu/tempeh.

@ggscv 3 года назад

Got some bad news for you about rice and arsenic, go check out the videos about it.

@ima7333 3 года назад

@@ggscv then u should go check my comment on that video. The arsenic is mainly in US grown rice because the soil is so polluted but i got my rice from a local farmer friend who grow them on the foot of a nearby volcano. FYI Indonesia is practically a chain of 17k+ islands w/ most volcanoes. So it’s not bad news for me but maybe for u if u’r a rice eater. I suggest u go back to ur root heritage and eat what ur ancestors eat for starch.

@ggscv 3 года назад

@@ima7333 I literally just looked at some papers on arsenic content in Indonesian rice and the content varies, but even if you are eating the best organic rice which has the lowest arsenic content, it still may have a significant effect, especially if you are eating lots of rice every day. Here is the paper (done by Indonesian researchers aimed at Indonesian people), you can read it for yourself: www.orientjchem.org/vol34no5/analysis-of-arsenic-in-rice-in-medan-north-sumatera-indonesia-by-atomic-absorption-spectrophotometer/ "According to the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), arsenic is included in the first class as a carcinogenic substance and may cause lung, skin and bladder cancer in humans without a minimum threshold value in which small amounts of arsenic can be harmful to human health" "The results of this study must be a warning as serious concern because arsenic can cause cancer and high intake of rice in Medan. This can be a serious concern for the government and for next researcher it is suggested to importance of researching the source of arsenic intake from other foodstuffs so it is known the total amount of arsenic intake in Medan, Indonesia, community besides it is suggested to do research on factors influencing arsenic level in rice circulating in Medan City." Just giving you the facts, I too am from an Asian country and I try to eat as little rice as possible now because it is likely to be the main source of arsenic in peoples diets. Besides, white rice isn't that good for you anyway - go watch the nutritionfacts videos on rice and it will change your mind.

@ima7333 3 года назад

@@ggscv i did look at that paper you mentioned. What i eat these days is mixed grain rice. I like mix in some white rice that i have tested in the lab for arsenic. I don’t really care about cancer since i already got it once, lived w/ it for 2 whole yrs before an honest doctor figured it out then another 3 months before i got surgery. I’m not that worried about the arsenic i eat from the little white rice. I’d worry more about pesticide, herbicide & antibiotics from animal products that might snuck their way into my food. I’m not vegan tho i eat whole food plant based 85% of the time. I was also put on a low protein diet by a trusted doctor friend of mine.

@user-bv7mk8id5t 2 года назад

@@ima7333 Meh, eat your Asian breakfast! These people like to scare one another into whatever they believe or read some bs that could be argued. Or just to troll. Rice has some natural arsenic but it’s supposedly low levels. But there are supposedly ways you can take some of it off by pre-boiling. I’m sure it depends too on where it was grown and the water it grows in and the soil as well. Everything is so polluted! What people are not getting, I think we will all get cancer at some point because of our water and the pesticides that is being used. I have it right now and I was suppose to be healthy. I never thought I would get this and at this age, yet here I am. It’s the damn water and I have neighbors, they use so much pesticides on their property (and only for green grass). My heart is broken from my early diagnoses, but it’s early and I’m going to fight and overcome this thing. Best

@NataschaO 3 года назад

Until you....put it to the test!

@reginalynnbush 3 года назад

Fascinating. I have never tried those burgers. I'm not sure if I am interested in them, but this is great to know.

@BR-zv1kp 3 года назад

More about peas please!

@vascoamaralgrilo 3 года назад

Thanks!

@bonnij 2 года назад

I love everything about this guy! What a gift to us all.

@ianiskandar4165 3 года назад

Pea protein isolate in my experiences is the best healthy protein out there.. if you can get the organic one with affordable price that even better .. yes it maybe not max your muscle mass like whey but much healthier.. I found best mix with ur smoothies with veggies.. it curb ur hunger for snacks , when you drink it in the morning, even after 2-3 hours after lunch I dont really feel hungry or needed to eat ( usually I eat again haha ) but when I drink pea protein isolatte mix with smoothies in the morning, it curb my hunger Hope it helps

@rupert909 2 года назад

Why would it not "max your muscle mass" like whey?

@m_m991 Год назад

Yes ,its also much better for digestion compared to whey protein

@kazzz2765 2 года назад

What about protein powder?

@prd2bevgy 2 года назад

Fully plant-based yes

@DanScottChannel 2 года назад

Dr. John McDougall, in his book The Starch Solution, states that soy protein isolates, used in these products and others, can cause harm due to risk from cancer, impaired thyroid, immune and brain function as well as cause bone damage and reproductive problems due to increased IGF1 when consumming? I have a jug of Now brand soy protein isolate, which is useful in certain recipes so should I throw it in the trash? This video would seem to say it's okay to consume (in moderation of course). I mean, I do eat the whole food source of soybeans and other peas and beans as well.

@pookiroo Год назад

I know soy isolate does not cause inflammation. I mean if u really want to know 1st hand - u could put it to the test lol. Try drinking 2 isolates & nothing else in a day. When u wake up the next morning u would feel less inflammation than the day before or no additional inflammation. I am using it & I needed it & plan on keeping it in my diet. I use it as part of my vegetarian diet.

@InfernalPasquale Год назад

As usual, processed plant proteins can be great, as long as they are a part of a varied and healthy diet

@veganchiefwarrior6444 3 года назад

great timing after vegsource uploaded dr mcdougals talk on this subject, i was hangin for a newer perspective

@vmoney2877 3 года назад

It's the isolated processed soy thats the issue from my understanding. Pea protein i don't feel is bad. What did you come up with?

@moonhand8311 3 года назад

Short, sharp and just EXCELLENT, as always.

@kray9438 4 месяца назад

Hey Doc, what about the DIAAS score differences between plant based proteins and meat/egg?

@musicvixen24 3 года назад

You say that the soy isolate can have beneficial effects but what about the other 40 ingredients that are in these heavily processed foods that probably aren’t even recognized by the body. I’d rather just eat tofu if I want soy

@VFella 3 года назад

I don't think there is much merit in ripping a powder apart. UNless he did it in the textured form, which would have some more merit, but it's not that you need to be Arnold Schwarzenegger for that. I could rip a full bag of that appart. Is there any money in that? Because if it is I'm game.

@HillLeeHill 3 года назад

If you would rather eat tofu then this burger is not for you. It was made for people that want meat but don't want side effects of eating dead animals. Is it the most healthy thing you can eat? NO. No one is saying that it is but it's better than a piece of dead animal and if it helps someone on the way to tofu then what's the problem? I also would rather eat tofu! I will not be buying these but my parents love them. And (foe the beyond meat) there 17 ingredients, not 40. of those 17 only 3 may need to be looked up. Methylcellulose- made from fiber, potassium Chloride- a salt, and Sunflower Lecithin- the gummy part of the plant.

@musicvixen24 3 года назад

@@HillLeeHill I agree. If it helps someone on the way to vegan, that’s great. Even if they’ve been vegan for a while. I’m definitely not judging. In fact I just discarded some gardeins from my freezer. I watched John mcdougall talk about soy isolates on Monday. He was more negative about it. Stating that it increases cancer risks due to increasing IGF, increasing greater than meat. I just thought that this video would have a different conclusion. Also adding that my mom loves them too. She’s 70 and a forever meat eater, so this helps her reduce her meat intake. It’s a process

@jenniferarnaiz1637 3 года назад

I think Greger just exposed the thing but wont be eating those anyway. Because he is whole food plant based ❤. Why to consume the isolated protein if you can have many more benefits by eating soy derivatives in the tofu tempeh "whole" way? He would choose the less processed one..

@VFella 3 года назад

If you read the ingredient list there aren't so many "strange" things and most of the common additives in food are usually stuff like ascorbic acid (vitamin-C which is added as anti-oxydant) . Here in the EU we also have these pesky "E-numbers" that are often confused with "strange chemicals" . We even say that something that is very processed has "a lot of E-numbers in it". E numbers are actually nothing more than a convenient way of shortening the ingredients list, for instance E-300 is good old vitamin C. BUT if you search each of these ingredients up on the internet you will find that they are mostly very common things that you may have in your kitchen pantry or just vitamins. I would be more concerned about the amount of fat and sugars than about "checmicals", but more from the point of view that these industrial foods use to be relatively more caloric. What I do, specially because I want to know if something is or not vegan, is just remembering to take my phone with me to the supermarket and search stuff up if I don't know what it is. Of course, nothing beats a home made lentils stew And for protein: Home made seitan, search for "wheat gluten" on the internet, it's dirt cheap!

@john4385 3 года назад

Dr. Greger is my #1 fav nutritionist. Please keep making your wonderful videos !......😄

@edover51315 Год назад

Love this. Thanks for the excitement around nuanced scientific conversation 😁

@Blessing927NJ 2 года назад

Thank you so much for all you do, Dr. Greger!

@welshrawgirl 8 месяцев назад

From my own perspective and my husbands, we have been vegan for over 60 years between us. No major health issues UNTIL pea protein was added to vegan food. We BOTH get stomach pains and loose bowels from it. Isolating components from natural food is dangerous and unnecessary- we both do not need convincing that pea protein is unnatural- our body reactions say it all!

@VeganStrong 4 месяца назад

that's a natural reaction to higher protein intake. the first time i started consuming a large amount of protein when i was a kid, same results. body will adjust after a month or so

@CoreyWofford 3 года назад

Long time fan with some constructive feedback for video production - I'm not sure the fullscreen Dr. Gregor presentation is working as well as the old infographic, text page focus of years past. Great looking guy with a face for television, but having him gesture next to the graphics is distracting and overall everything comes off less scholarly than it deserves to...like there's an appeal to something other than the viewer's intellect. That said, I'm sure the change of format was an informed decision at the time and I may be in the minority with my preference.

@AnlamK 3 года назад

Does anyone have any info and opinion on plant-based protein powders?

@indiadoranicholson9069 3 года назад

I want to know this too

@Amina-bo5ie 3 года назад

They have high levels of heavy metals in them. Mic the Vegan did a video on this.

@someguy2135 2 года назад

Beyond Meat burgers do not use coconut oil, but Impossible does.

@garrethbyrne374 3 года назад

I watched a video on this channel years ago that stated that soy protein isolate can increase igf-1 levels (though not as much as meat protein). Is this no longer relevant, I.e. have better studies come along showing either this is not a problem or doesn't happen? The latter seems to be mentioned in this video. Would love some clarity as I've avoided soy protein isolate for this reason.

@isabellezablocki7447 3 года назад

Yes, true. Dr Mcdougall also mentions it in his book "The starch solution". Isolated soy protein is connected to more cancers and accelerated aging. An occasional impossible burger is not going to be that damaging but living just on vegan foods based on isolated protein would be quite damaging, I think.

@garrethbyrne374 3 года назад

@@isabellezablocki7447 yes my concern is that I have been avoiding soy protein isolate based protein powder for years despite its superior bioavailability and price. I suppose until I learn more I will continue to shun it just incase.

@isabellezablocki7447 3 года назад

@@garrethbyrne374 I think it's a good idea

@justinw1765 2 года назад

@@garrethbyrne374 I actually find concentrated soy proteins very hard to fully digest, hence I wouldn't call it all that bioavailable. How I know this, is that it causes my body to produce A LOT of excess mucous and sometimes also gassiness/bloating. I eat a very high fiber diet, high in legumes and have minimal gas/bloating issues with things like lentils--this is something else going on here. Anyways, concentrated pea protein doesn't do either of these to me, which means that it is fully digestible, and thus more bioavailable (in the protein at least).

@pookiroo Год назад

Soy & soy isolate helped me a lot. Tried hclf vegan many times & personally I get inflammation.

@Jan-Jan-Jan 3 года назад

One of the best "... untill you put it to the test!"s so far!

@LisaLightning 3 года назад

I was listening to a very recent Dr. McDougall lecture on protein from just 2-3 weeks ago and he mentioned that too much concentrated isolated plant protein actually had harmful effects. I’m going to have to go back and listen again to see what he was citing. Lots of people I know are dumping massive amounts of protein powder into their smoothies, plus more and more protein bars during the day. Actually I see that Dr. McDougall posted a sort of protein video just three days ago, going to check that out, It’s probably a clip from the earlier lecture!

@pds002 3 года назад

The last time I watched Dr. McDougall, or read his book, he seemed to have no problems with sodium or salt intake. That felt a little contradictory to what Drs. Greger, Esselstyn, Graham, Campbell, Ornish, Fuhrman were saying......unless I misunderstood something. I've seldom referred to him since. There's so much information out there. It is sometimes daunting to figure what is best. I like Dr. Greger.

@veronicaphiri7432 3 года назад

@@pds002 Couldn't have stated it better. Information overload, and hard to now sift the truth amongst the sea of even knowledgeable sources 😭

@kathleennorth9014 2 года назад

@@pds002 Dr. McDougall is not pro high salt. He recommends a little sprinkled on top of food after cooked if that's the way you can get yourself to eat healthy foods.

@pds002 2 года назад

@@kathleennorth9014 With respect, I don't think that is an accurate reflection of Dr. McDougall's position at all. He criticises scientific studies which make sodium the villain, often citing cultural diets with multiple times greater salt intake than the recommended daily allowance. He argues specifically AGAINST low-sodium diets. He doesn't believe in the prevailing dietary salt reductions of the last 70 years and argues against them in the hope that the "truth about salt become known". He exhorts one to trust one's natural cravings and desire for salt with the assurance that the body can regulate itself. I'm not criticising this stance, only stating it, because it suits me entirely.

@erinsalmon5764 2 года назад

There was a study (I wish I could find) where patients with heart failure did badly on low sodium diets while the patients on high or moderate sodium diets did significantly better. I have heard that salt is needed and very natural for human consumption

@HappyComfort 2 года назад

Thank You so much for sharing this! I was wondering since my husband (to my shock and surprise) had recently changed from hard core meat eater to vegetarian (after 65 years) and loves to eat Impossible meats etc. I realize that more changes are needed in his diet but at least this makes me feel better. It’s a process, and I am hoping gradually to transition him over closer to vegan.

@richardf911 2 года назад

Impossible burgers are made with GMOs.

@thereallegend4lyfe Год назад

You’re making your husband less attractive by putting him on a vegan diet.

@Empress_Ney Год назад

I have experienced this switching my diet and going vegetarian I always had high blood pressure and inflammation after about a few months of switching my well being improved more and more I do cheat and eat some fish for holidays every now and then but switching was one of the best choices I made in my life.

@tcconnection 2 года назад

Thanks again for the education with backed-up reliable sources

@ayde92829 2 года назад

I like you so so much. From your quirky cadence to your accurate and useful use of academic source material which renders your arguments concise and trust worthy. Side note/ request: can you do a video on RDA recommended protein intakes? I find it bizarre that it's not based on lean muscle mass. I feel as if this fact renders many studies on the effects of different protein macro intakes mute. I wish more dietary studies used an MCA 'multiple correspondence analysis) to determine key variables within the variations of findings. Anyway, thank you

@warrenlee1562 Год назад

@bohoc4 3 года назад

Every nonvegan: Plant-based meat is actually healthier than meat? Dr. Greger: YES!

@middleearthltd 3 года назад

Excellent content......again Bless You Dr. G

@angelalafuente1137 3 года назад

Doctor Greger, soy nutricionista, nunca dudare que el aporte en vegetales, sobre todo verduras es esencial para una buena salud así como legumbres... Le sigo y le admiro incondicionalmente por todo su aporte en información científica sobre la salud. Dicho esto, me surgen algunas dudas. Sinceramente un huevo de unas gallinas alimentadas y criadas respetuosamente no es un excelente aporte de aminoácidos para nuestro organismo? A esta alturas culpar al colesterol de las enfermedades cardiovasculares, creo que es como culpar a un bombero de un encendio por estar ahí. Quien ocasiona los daños no es el colesterol que cumple funciones muy importantes a nivel hormonal...y en su gran mayoría lo producido el cuerpo. Creo se debería hablar del problema., la causa, ya hay muchod estudios en los que han podido comprobar que el problema no es el colesterol sino la oxidación del mismo producido por radicales libres como es el azúcar.. La pirámide alimentaria esta basada sobre intereses en la industria culpando a las grasas y dando barra libre a los carbohidratos causantes de muchos padecimientos. Me gustaría se profundizará también en estos temas y no se juzge los alimentos por el hecho de ser de procedencia animal.. Sin más agradecida enormente de encontra gente que sin lucro alguno busca difundir salud 👏👏👏

@PlantbasedSilvi 7 месяцев назад

In Germany, finished products have repeatedly contained minerals, including isolated soy, which is carcinogenic. It often comes in during production or is transferred from the packaging to the food.

@Bambi-12345 3 года назад

Just ordered my first vegan protein powder today,, pea, rice and hemp based So nice to know now its a good addition to my vegan diet! TY!!

@veronicaphiri7432 3 года назад

Hemp is phenomenal in that it is a complete protein in itself, with very to no side effects long / short term! If you can get the organic stuff, you're literally jetting off to fabulous health and youth

@zacharyconner9319 2 года назад

VivoLife?

@katzensindweich3505 3 года назад

Good news for the vegan meat lover. Thx Dr. G.

@gabrielgagne3850 3 года назад

So much info I have to watch it 3, 4 times, love it!

@john4385 Год назад

...Many people eat processed meat in sandwiches. I did years ago ....🥴🥴

@paulmr6667 2 года назад

Im into recreational natural bodybuilding and I eat mostly a vegan diet with the only animal source I use is whey protein isolate, no meat, fish or eggs. I also use pea protein isolate as another protein source. From my research whey has health benefits in lowering blood pressure, making arteries more elastic and its the king protein source for building muscle. I just balance out the higher IGF-1 whey creates with intermittent fasting.

@tahjoverton2802 3 года назад

What about the health effects of using a more processed soy protein like TVP in comparison to having tempeh or tofu?

@justinw1765 2 года назад

Particularly tempeh I would say is far more healthy. Soy protein is really hard to digest, at least for me, and has an allergenic effect in my body unless it is first cultured or fermented. Tempeh is also pretty high in protein, while having a lot of other nutrients, and the microbes partially predigest it, making it easier for a body to fully digest it (which is why it doesn't spark that allergenic type response in self and many others). When it comes to concentrated plant proteins, I stick with pea, because it doesn't have that allergenic type effect on me.

@ffiontill5924 3 года назад

Which protein isolate (soy or pea or hemp etc) is better for protein powder like the absorption rate, effectiveness, calories etc? Also would an isolate protein be better than a protein powder with a mixture. For context, my protein offer soy protein isolate, pea protein isolate whereas vivo life offer a combined concoction of proteins

@veronicaphiri7432 3 года назад

Definitely hemp is the best! If you can find the organic one, statistically it has little to no health hazards compared to the controversial soy.🦓

@oliverszk 3 года назад

oh shit, I opend my to Bags 2,5kg Soy Protein yesterday, turned out there are okay. Man this would be a waste of Money. I consume Protein, for Muscle power, with training of cause!

@alebatero 8 месяцев назад

What about metal contamination and the fact that they use many agrochemicals to cultivate it?.

@BrazillianFOsho 3 года назад

What about hexane in soy protein isolate? Is there any truth to that?

@veronicaphiri7432 3 года назад

Great question! I have come across many folk preaching about the danger of hexane associated with Soy isolates

@mushshrap6471 2 года назад

That shouldn't be an issue if the soy is organic/non-gmo.

@rebeccaaldrich3396 2 года назад

Thank you for your work. This is vital information!

@MiguelExhale 3 месяца назад

Oatmeal is better than eggs?

@TomSimak 3 года назад

Moral of the story. Whole foods plant based where possible !

@aidaazizah5743 3 года назад

this video makes me wanna be a vegan 🙂

@stone-sama7314 2 года назад

slay

@emiljohansson923 Год назад

There is a great brand of vegan products here in Sweden called "Anamma". Their soy burgers don't contain any coconut oil and therefore almost no saturated fat at all! And they taste great!

@umbrah 3 года назад

Thanks for the insight! I appreciate the explanation on how there are even differences with the proteins that we ingest, depending on the source. Getting to know that plant protein have somewhat of a different amino acid breakdown in comparison to animal protein is great to know. The comparison of IGF-1 in both sources is also something great to know, cool to know that plant protein has cancer-inhibiting properties.

@VeganStrong 4 месяца назад

i remember back in 2010, everyone demonized soy, and that legacy has stuck, even in my head, even knowing there's nothing wrong with it

@dominicmutzhas6002 2 года назад

Soy protein decreases cancer risk ...COMPARED TO WHAT?! That's what I always ask myself with these things...not surprising that in the general population this is indeed the case..but that means it's compared to a standard diet, which means junk food.

@flethacker 2 года назад

You can get 5 lbs of lentils for one 'impossible burger patty' (aprox $5). 1 lb of lentils (3 cups) and make 8 lentil burger patties. so thats 40 lentil patties for the price of one 'impossible burger patty'. Thats 40 servings vs just 1. And you can store the lentils without refrigeration for years. Tell me again which one sounds more impossible?

@natalieguerrero5152 Год назад

How about plant protien isolates on the liver? Would plant protein help with FLD?

@abrarahmed7549 3 года назад

What about the heavy metals found in the plant proteins?

@jeffery8928 Год назад

I am coming across some confusion when I hear folks talk about how much protein is needed just to maintain muscle levels. Everything else seems to point to WFPB as the gold standard, and I want to get my protein from plants, but how much do I need to prevent sarcopenia?

@fredfunk5150 3 года назад

What I would like to know is with soybeans being sprayed with Round Up and Dicamba, how much can we take before we are concerned about cancer? Monsanto has had numerous lawsuits from cancer due to exposure to Round Up in the past. Nobody talks about this, let’s just push soy as the next best thing.

@fredfunk5150 2 года назад

@@loverofsong9830 there’s not enough organic soybeans for this country to consume.

@theObscure3rd Год назад

there is so much conflicting information on this stuff. I just want to know, Will eating Soy Protein Isolate Powder affect my testosterone levels and Can I use So Protein Isolate as a supplement to build muscles instead of Whey Protein?

@ReflectedMiles 7 месяцев назад

Actually, bean and rice burritos routinely have much more sodium than an Impossible burger patty.

@MaliYojez 3 года назад

But plant protein isolates have been connected with IGF-1 increase, especially soy, no?

@grattata4364 3 года назад

Nope

@MaliYojez 3 года назад

@@grattata4364 In fact, it was my understanding that soy protein isolate is just as bad as eating meat. That was the thinking several years back at least.

@yosemite735 3 года назад

@@MaliYojez That is what I thought too. I get leary of things that change too much. Something is either true or not true.

@MindVersusMisery 3 года назад

@@MaliYojez Yes, there definately is some evidence for it. I think I even found a clip of soy isolate intake and higher IGF-1 levels on Dr Gregers page. It might also have been Dr McDougal that showed a study on the subject in a lecture. Anyway, even if this study says otherwise, we must look at the totality of evidence. And in this case the intake wasn't very high. I would be cautious to eat very high amounts of soy isolate, and aim for whole soy foods. And if we talk protein powders specifically, I would aim for something other that soy.

@susanclaire901 3 года назад

@@MindVersusMisery Do you mean "definitely"?

@Group51 3 года назад

Remarkable.

@constantchange1145 5 месяцев назад

Still not convinced that the saturated fat content of coconut oil is a bad thing?

@chrisjohnston7164 2 года назад

I would like to know about bone health and a product called “Algeacal” and bone health and building bone

@teresabradley5118 2 года назад

Love the passion you speak with...

@KJ-um1gq 3 года назад

Is tofu considered a protein isolate?

@devonrd 3 года назад

One thought that came to mind was the question of muscle-synthesis or hypertrophy. Would it be possible that animal protein sources cause a higher instance of various cancers because they promote more hypertrophy, and muscle-tissue growth (especially in elders) can be associated with a risk of cancer growth? I'm madly speculating here, but I was wondering about that. Also: what are the effects of plant and animal protein in regards to hypertrophy? If you want to build more muscle, is plant-protein going to hold you back significantly? Or is the difference not significant?

@anarchy7741 3 года назад

Look up the Dietary Inflammation Index. Animal flesh and its components all cause inflammation. All the foods that prevent inflammation are plants (I am not talking about oils, refined grains, added sugars. Those cause inflammation as well. I am speaking strictly whole foods.)

@jamesfisher4388 2 года назад

Super joo

@byNetak 3 года назад

Pea + rice isolat better than Whey 😋

@HeyItsMike985 2 года назад

Problem is you can find other studies counter arguing his points and lot of these are observational and not including the lifestyle of the person eating meat or eating vegetables as he mention in the video… more than likely the person eating meat does not have healthy habits as the vegetable eater so it’s likely their eating other BS so I’m not really sure about these studies … good video but I think better studies should be conducted for accurate results