Plant Succession in a Forest

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This Q&A is pulled from a collection of questions posed to me by students of my Online Permaculture Design Course (PDC). Learn more with my free four-part Masterclass series, here:
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Question:
How can I tell the difference between a plant element that is advancing the succession when I chop and drop and a plant that is one of the problems I need to try and get ahead of?
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@b_uppy 5 лет назад

Knew about allelopathy, knew a lot about bamboo. Didn't know some bamboos were allelopathic. Thank you for this bit of extra info.

@joecrablone286 5 лет назад

Camphor as a medium grows oyster mushrooms really well - suddenly its vigor becomes an asset!

@peterellis5626 5 лет назад

I don't really understand the focus on allelopathy here. It doesn't seem to be related to the question at all?

@Christodophilus 5 лет назад

Alex wanted to know when they could tell the difference between a beneficial chop'n drop, crop, and what will become an infestation if not dealt with, through selective predjudice. The allelopathic effect, was one way Geoff chose to explain, how you can tell. But ultimately, even alleopathic plants can be utilised as chop'n drop, if the correct process has been utilised afterwards.

@wildforestorganics7298 5 лет назад

Camphor forest reverts very quickly to native rainforest when you inject the camphors with glyphosate. You can also plant strangler figs in camphors and the fig tree will eventually take over.

@ausbushman2347 5 лет назад

Anyone interested In permaculture, shouldn't be using Glyphosate.

@wildforestorganics7298 5 лет назад

@@ausbushman2347 I've been doing permaculture for 30 years and the only thing I would ever use it for is to control camphor laurels in order to restore sub-tropical rainforest, which is critically endangered habitat. If i can speed up succession by 100 years and there will be no sign of glyphosate within 2 years, then I will do it. Sometimes in permaculture if there is only one solution and the benefits far outweigh the costs, then it has to be done.

@ausbushman2347 5 лет назад

I feel like Geoff would offer a different opinion. I've cleared them without it...

@wildforestorganics7298 5 лет назад

@@ausbushman2347 You can also clear camphors with a machine but you will destroy the soil structure and end up with more weeds. As soon as a camphor is dead its allelopathy is broken and it starts turning to into humus. The birds perch on them and drop native seed and they become soil within 10 years. I understand your concern about glyphosate though. It is an absolute curse on the earth in almost every other situation.

@bradsuarez2683 5 лет назад

Very interesting conversation here. I agree with both of you. Many times as permaculturists we tend to overlook the benefits of an "unnatural" solution just because of the stigma attached it. For example the use of gasoline powered machines like tractors and brush cutters can be of tremendous benefit in establishing a permaculture plot. I would love to hear Mr Lawton's take on using glyphosate in this context.

@BrunoGarcia79 5 лет назад

i use canfora oil in alcool a lot in for muscle sores almost every week

@XxMadz007 5 лет назад

Camphor wax is fantastic in homemade balms or cooling gels due to the natural ‘methanol’-like properties of it :)

@jedmanson 2 года назад

Permaculture Rocks 🤟

@StefanSobkowiak 5 лет назад

Geoff you mention it’s a reseeding inhibitor, will it equally inhibit growth of established trees? I’m thinking of how it would work as a mulch under well established fruit trees and would it inhibit their growth and fruiting?

@juglore 5 лет назад

The question in the description doesn't match. The question from the description is from last week.

@q695 4 года назад

have you tried wine caps on the tree?

@emmanuelramirez5815 4 года назад

Dear mr Lawton - what is your opinion on emptied coconut husks as material for building houses dams or walls? Is there any special machine that could break these into smaller and manageable fibers.?? Thank yu

@przybyla420 3 года назад

A chipper might work? Coconut coir would work well for cob or light straw clay infill I reckon. I would think it would be a more valuable material than local straw though. When choosing fibers for building, you want the strongest, the longest, the most durable in the presence of moisture and the cheapest. Those are the main criteria.