Plat Ego 

I don’t even see an ego on this guy.

@@yournemesis192 i do

@@yournemesis192 He started to be defensive towards the end but that's completely understandable

@@mlgmcdonaldsland7063 Is it really though?

Lmao

@@themaltman34? Why

@@themaltman34 It's really not. His entire brand is being this straight forward with clients who pay for his time, knowledge, and experience. So him just being, what's seems like extra straighforward isn't bad. It's just more on-par with what we should expect from Neace

@@themaltman34 No, it's not. Neace was spot on with this guy. It's a horrible look for the client.

All the guy had to do was press W lol. It was really a simple concept he wasn't grasping. Neace laid out the plan and the guy was vaping shoveling cashews in his mouth and watching chat going ungabunga instead of trying to get value from the coaching.

@@themaltman34 neace has one job, and its to make the clients better players after, not to be their friends, he's straight to the point, and if its anyone who has a horrible look for, it's the client with plat-egoitis, especially with his responses (or there lack of) to the answers neace asked him towards the end

lol well played

lmao

I burst out laughing thank you my g

Underrated lol

Nice

Seriously, I've never played Wukong but I probably won't ever forget that

This video has inspired me to play wukong

I’ve never played wukong in my life but I feel like I now know him better than the champs I do play. E, Auto, Q, W or short trade E,Q,W or E, auto, Q, W behind him into an R. I don’t know if wukong automatically autos with his E but you kinda get the point

@@SteezyyGG Wukong do unless you pressed stop earlier. You are right tho

@@PowerMouseMousic this. this is exactly what I was thinking

fully agree with you

💀💀

I mean it's only a coaching session so long as the client is willing to listen and do what is asked of them and ask questions after the play is over/post match. A lot of the people he uploads here refuse to listen and love to make excuses, as is common place with low elo league players. It's never their fault, it's always something else.

Yep then Neace ends it with "I don't think you got much from this coaching session". Ummm sir that is at least partially your fault as the fucking teacher.

i remember being like him when i hit plat, now im diamond

I agree. He might not meant to ego. I haven't seen it in the video.

As Neace mentioned at the end, he was deflecting to save face. He obviously was not confident at all. In my opinion instead of taking a hard stance as Neace always does it would be the right choice to take a soft stance for this guy. For instance simply asking him why he is reading chat, eating what ever in a ranked game (I am pretty sure it was a deflecting behaviour as well). Neace could have easily getten him into closing his stream, stop eating or drinking while in game, doing the combo or leveling with the keyboard if he would have taken a softer stance. I am very sure about it. I am pretty sure, as he somewhere mentioned for instance that he did not have the bindings for leveling the r. Just call him out after the game and let him change it. He most definitly had different things on his mind to do it himslef. But well, he should have also known how Neace goes about things. And Neace is not particulary wrong, that this is indead an ego thing. And I am pretty sure the guy himself is aware of it. Its just a 'different' ego thing than what people in the comments proclaim it to be.

Yea playing on coms takes over your thinking. You heard others thoughts and that’s hard to ignore at times.

@@Chaist1994 I think you are completely right, and Neace should not always go for the roasting strat imo. Sometimes its more constructing to be calm and point them on faults in a more subtle and specific way. But yea, I guess his coaching sessions are more becoming a sitcom tbh. Love the content tho !

@Mubu Mubu I do not really get your point, but I can respond to what I have understood: He did prepare, he mentioned so in the video even; maybe to little, but my point is that it is a scale not binary. He was respectful, to a degree, obviously eating in the session was not. You cannot single out instances of his behaviour and proclaim him to be disrespectful through out the whole session. Also respectfulness or politeness may differ from culture to culture. Heck even different regions of the same country may have different standarts theirein. I am very sure he was mentally prepared to learn. Your metaphor doesnt really fit in my opinion and to my observations. So yes it was embarrassing, but not only because of that guys behaviour, but also because Neace made it so. The guy could have behaved in a way so Neace could do his usual thing, or Neace could have done differently to get the guy to do what he suppose was right. I did not judge, I just stated that the option exists.

noticed that too.

Yup!

Thats what neace wanted to know

you wouldnt notice a whole cat showing up on your screen? i dont think its so out of the ordinary to peek at stream while youre on your way to lane lol

@@earlyman352 but why even watch stream when your goal is to rank up

The intro is so good, it’s one of the best I’ve ever seen haha

@@rsmith8113 For real. No cap

fr this editor good man this the type of shit we like to see

The editor is on point

Lmaoooo the editor is goated for this session

Guy ate every enemy ability he could

That’s my positive takeaway too lol

Apparently thats posible in NA

I don’t know how he’s plat. Literally no clue

@@rsmith8113 NA server, everything possible

Vaping and eating cashews?

There is a reason why they are in that rank

plat is the elo u get to and think ur the best but really u just coinflipped and got lucky.

@qeuarfbhq3iwushbq Not really. Platinum is literally gold level mechanics with slightly better farming and teamfighting/objective play. Platinum players get an ego because they FINALLY escaped the pit of despair that is gold elo and they're "so close!" to Diamond that they feel they have the right to have an ego. They don't. That's why the majority of them stay in Plat 4/3.

@@TheKittyClink Delusional player. If you think the only way to get to plat is by just spamming games and "getting lucky" then you are coping hard so you can excuse your own inability and short comings in your play.

Yea, whis was exactly my take on it as well. To a certain extent it does really sem like the guy was genuenly trying, but it's like there is something that is a bit off somehow. Could be problems with attention like ADD or ADHD, but it felt more like there was a different reason for the attention being a bit off. Not sure. But it really feel the familiarity in that type of response, like the type of avoidant trauma response you get when there is self-worth wounds. . And i would also agree that Neace being that condescending was really unnecessary. So i feel like it's a bit of a wierd situation were you can't really say for sure what happened or who was really in the wrong.

@@ericaramos3307 The coaching session was horrible due to the client thinking it was a joke, why would neace refund it if he was trying to do his job? And yes vaping is a problem when it comes to you paying 250$ to goof around and eat cashews, it's fine if he does that when he is playing alone, not in a streamed coaching session that was expensive...

@@juliusthebeaver5326 it's his money ain't it 😭 if he wants to have the full experience see himself on the stream see what the chat thinks of how he's doing that's his prerogative isn't it?

@@MegaDlarge Of course, but then if he wants to do that he doesnt has the right to complain about the coaching or about being roasted, nor does Neace need to refund him.

@@juliusthebeaver5326 Basically I just thing he has the wrong impression on this one, I think it's because he has had many clients who behave as he describes in the past. There was a solid 2 month period on the channel where arrogant clients were meta, it was pure entertainment. But I do think that those experiences have put him in a place during this session where he was just triggered by one thing the fella did and then just started picking at him.

@@juliusthebeaver5326 Dude everyone has then right to a REFUND, if it is in the terms and conditions NEACE has to period!

Thank you.

What a deceptive champion :/

@@awdsgrgde6979 Thats his whole kit. If you cant pull deceptive moves off with him you fail hard.

Fremdscham.

fr

@@Mulmgott ja ohne spaß

Yeah but Neace is challenger not plat player

@@sergejkrypi3144not NA challenger, he lied about that.

​@@Kpizzo And he has made challenger in Korea ,Na is not that good of a server stop the 🧢

@@kozmiic beside the point

@@Kpizzoeverything that doesnt support your pov is “beside the point”, you’re one of those types

However I do get that it’s a pretty goofy to be watching stream and caring about chat’s opinions while he’s paying all that money for coaching.

Yeah, guy should be maybe a bit more focused, but Neace was being an asshole from start to finish. Like, yeah, some people need a few more repetitions before they get something down, that doesn't mean they have ego problems. The ego on Neace though... Like this guy doesn't even want to consider for a SECOND that maybe his coaching approach isn't ideal. He has ZERO doubts that "he's the one that's got it all right and ALL of his clients are trash". He can't POSSIBLY be the one that's a shitty coach if his clients aren't getting great value out of their coaching, right? Essentially Neace is deflecting 100% of the responsibility on "everyone else". No ego Neace, amirite?

@@LegionL-A fr his argument for roasting this guy was full of "it looks like" "seems like" "your tone suggest", the guy always tried to follow instructions, he never argued, never was disrespectful. this is a coaching session paid by a client, not fucking middle school.

@@kinoo4496 the guy maybe wanted to look cool for stream but this was far being a huge ego dude just thought it was cool he was on a big streamers stream

​@@kinoo4496i think he just wanted a stir up some "content". Shame he doesnt know this will lose him much more

*Inception [Sound Effect]*

I've only watched the first game but Neace is blowing this way out of proportion so far. He clearly E Q W'd on Shaco several times in lane, yeah he could have done it more but he's trying to follow Neace's directions to avoid the boxes. When Neace freaks out on him at 14:50, he literally takes a single auto from Senna that did less than 50 damage. There's zero reason to waste your W there. I would check out mentally too, it's just bad coaching to yell at your student when they haven't even done anything wrong.

@@kellenoneill2050 Using it a few times correctly out during games that can last up to an hour doesn’t not translate to a win as much as understanding your champion and literally just hitting the W button after you go in ALL THE TIME when you’re taking a short trade are actually very different things that Neace was trying to coach. Hitting W should be muscle memory, it’s not something you really “optimally use”.

@@kellenoneill2050 Part of good coaching is making someone feel comfortable. This guy is making content a la LS. And I like both, but this is obviously intentionally overblown into "PLAT EGO"

@@cloudownsyounoob It really isn't. IF you pay me to coach you how to do something and come with that attitude of not paying attention to the game and instead watching what fking chat says, then Im screaming at you till you start listening. Comfort on classes is a privilege you earn by being polite and listening. Try teaching anyone anything for a living and you'll see how it goes.

Facts

Neace has insane ego.

Yeah bro. I can't belive he charged the guy that much just to shit talk him and make him look bad on live . Fuck that guy, and all the meat riders 💀

Yeah man idk about all of that. He played poorly and didn't listen to Neace, while transparently being too distracted with what was going on in the stream to give his attention to the game and to his coach. I think it's fair to be irritated with someone for wasting your time, especially when it's been made clear that the time they're spending together is explicitly set aside for this guy to improve. From an outside perspective, it looks like he dropped $250+ just for a little bit of time on stream. He is literally being coached by one of the best players/coaches in the world and still finds the gall to argue about fundamentals on a champion he has spent literally hundreds of hours playing. Like it or not he probably needed to hear the shit Neace was saying, but he also didn't seem to be interested in internalizing any of it because he's so self assured. He tried making light of the situation because he was backed into a corner - he tried making a bunch of weak excuses for his behavior and got called out for it on repeat. idk man.

@@GoonEr-hb6cm it’s not that deep

Dude has down time walking back to lane, this is unnecessary nitpicking. It’s 8 minutes into the game and nothing is happening.

@@MittyNispa that's time being afk

@@evilerroryt8448 you are also nitpicking.

@@MittyNispa while it is nitpicky, they also do have a bit of a point. When you are with a team and playing flex to practice for tourneys etc.... are you going to be having a stream up? No, you shouldn't. That is things off to the side for distraction. Best i would have up is some music. Also, him talking about what the chat is saying is very similar to in game chat.... both are useless for you while you are in a game and trying to learn and climb. It is also disrespectful to the coach that the person paying attention to things that do not matter.... instead of, as mentioned by another person.... looking at the state of other lanes. He also is not mentally preparing himself to even do the E Q W. He is not looking at his wave, and looking for patterns with how the enemy laner is moving... or looking around the jungle for things like scrying blooms hit. The list goes on. What he was looking at was Neaces chat and then was getting mentally distracted because they were roasting him. Because that is where his focus seemed to lay at that point in time, and what was most important for him at the time.

@@Wolfcub-tb2iy Exactly this dude, I honestly think that's why he thought Neace was roasting him because he was reading chat roasting him.

Nice cherry picking. Imagine misplaying 10 trades in lane and then having to fight uphill the whole lane phase and being like "nah bro I think you have the ego here".

@@NEACE misplaying? hes being coached? what does it matter if he misplays, if anything its better if he does so you know what needs working on. You coaching him on winning this 1 game or on improving? A client is expected to misplay otherwise he wouldnt need coaching. A coach isn't expected to pass blame to hide the fact he made a mistake. Question, do you think staying for that dive was the correct play still?

@@NEACE give it 4 more months before the viewers with low social skills catch on to what ur doing.

@@louiss4672 unfortunately they wont. Look at Neace clothes, way of talking and acting... he intentionally aims his content for cocky teenagers who will cheer up a so called "ego check" on another teenager. Like ffs, is just League, no client needs to be yelled and misstreated. If they want to throw away their money, fine, so be it. If Neace wanted to coach people interested in learning, he would cut off the session and give back the money (an never upload it). But with real content he would not get the subscribers. I literally would be ashamed of myself if I was making money with this circus.

@@MUDELA can i get ur league username bro XD. ive been telling the same stuff in comments hes rude and im a retard and can see it.

kinda funny for someone who posts their facebook stream into all-chat whenever someone flames him in game to tell others about "ego" xD

@@ich3730 wtf u on about

@@ich3730 thats not what ego is LOL

Exactly, so far I'm at 20 minutes and the guy is taking it all like a champ, Neace so far has repeatedly yelled at him and otherwise been toxic and the guy is like "ok, you're right, I gotta do the combo right". Fucking 0 ego. I can understand that he eventually gets defensive if he spent a whole hour getting fucking yelled at. Like yeah, maybe the guy needs to focus more but that's not how you get results as a coach.

@@LegionL-A so the right thing to do as a coach is to accept that he wont listen to your fucking advice and just suck that up ? neace is a coach who is not there to care about your feelings, hes there to MAKE. YOU. BETTER. the guy was repeatedly told what to do and just said "yeh bro! haha! frrr!!!" and barely put it into action at all. + for WHAT reason is he buying coaching and then watching neaces livestream and talking to chat aswell? did he pay for a stream segment or coaching?

The guy had an ego. He just didn't know it. Neace literally asked him if he could do a basic bread and butter combo and he insisted he did, yet failed to do so consistently.

@@vDeadbolt I'm sorry, guy does not "have an ego". He agreed with EVERYTHING Neace said to him throughout the whole video and when he said "yah I can do the combo" and Neace said "then prove it to me" he was like "ok, you're right, gotta prove it". Neace was as asshole from start to finish and projected onto his student that he had an ego, then went on to cherry pick every single little detail to prove his point. When the guy finally snaps at the end of the video being told that he somehow has this huge ego problems when he's been doing his best to follow instructions (like ok, maybe he shouldn't be eating and vaping, granted), Neace is like "see, told you" (and the guy actually responds SUPER WELL to Neace's constant flaming, better than 90% of you would). Neace needs to get his head out of his ass. There's a thing called the Pygmalion/Golem effect, if you go around projecting all that shit on your students that's what your gonna find. Be better Neace.

Yea I felt the same kinda. Think neace himself got tilted with the client rather early. I'm a trainer myself and I love coaching people. Up until 2/3rds of the video neace showed very little empathic trainer skills tbh. I do understand neace tho, the clients demeanor and voice occasionally felt almost disrespectful sometimes. Idk that was a weird session tbh. Confused client with a not so professional neace

Lol as a Sett player I was astonished he couldn't press the only button I can.

@@the_moonwatcher9196 lol this is gold

Did you get featured on any of the videos, or did you do a private coaching?

If you dont have an ego problem in g1 you wont have an ego in plat. Most of the ego comes from just thinking you know more than you really do.

@@Mir0skies like Neace?

You think Plat ego is bad??? Come into mid/high diamond and see how they are. Literally cannot tell the difference between these idiots and Plat or Gold other than the shown ranked border.

@@MiloThatch420 looks like you lurk in the comments on all of his videos trying to point out things he gets wrong from time to time but I doubt you’ve ever been as high elo as NEACE has so shows what you know buddy

LOL community doesn't understand vocal socialization. They dick ride big creators to the point of delusion

Yeah the guy was just trying to have fun. If you want criticize him for not taking it seriously enough, then that’s valid. But to say he had an ego when he seemed like a completely chill dude, is ridiculous to me.

Bc he is bad... He is arguing with a challenger player. There's a reason he is plat and neace is challenger but yeah neace is wrong. This coaching is perfect. If you don't understand it you are worse than this plat player

true

i mean darius shouldn't loose any meele matchup he never really responded to the trades as neace said

@@stropex2165 there are definitely exceptions to this, such as Wukong, Jax, Fiora, Yorick…

I disagree, drill sergeant type delivery works in certain situations. I think for what he wants them to do his delivery is always on the mark. Does it sound harsh? Yeah but I bet you won’t forget whatever he said. Think of like Gordon Ramsey, he yells, screams and rebukes very harshly, it produces great results and pops the ones that were never gonna make it in the first place. Neace is like the Ramsey of League lol

@@hunnerricketts8676 Drill sergeants are trying to break you down to build you back up stronger. That doesn't work in a single coaching session. As soon as you start making someone defensive any chance of them listening to what you're saying goes out the window. Also Ramsey is a lot more chill on the non US show, it's an act for TV lol.

@@joshgriffin1575 that depends on the person. lots of useful skilled people prefer harsh teachers because it does push them farther than a lax one.

@@hunnerricketts8676 That's not drill sergeant type delivery that's just being an idiot.

Well thats because food can actually kill you if not properly prepared ​@@hunnerricketts8676

yeah, what's wrong with that..?

That one was a head scratcher cuz the whole point neace was trying to make was: you’re not focused and his response was: that’s not true I’m vaping and eating snacks

Then he has the nerve to say he isn’t trolling… bruh… neace needed a lot of patience for this guy.

@@noodleramen2217 plat is where people try hard to actually climb. Its not like gold or silver. Its a competitive game dude you need to be all there every second in the game. Sometimes its okay to go for a quick slurp but thats about it.

Just funny how you said in "plat" like its something special. lol people do that in challenger

thats a very good point

yeah it was pretty pathetic knowing that he's more concerned what internet strangers thought of him not using W than he was about the coaching he paid for.

he was not paying attention to the coaching at all , because he was too busy watching the stream chat and laughing when Neace grabbed and cuddled the cat .

Neace has a lot of really hard-set expectations of people. You can see it in this one, his first few games on chill neace season 2 where he's incredulous that some people in bronze can beat him during a laning phase (they're there cus they don't understand how to use their lead, not because they don't know how to play their champion) It can be seen in his rant about ranged top laners when he faced Senna top. He rants against "plat players with egos" etc etc. He's a crotchety old grandpa in a lot of ways.

@@Sorest2 He was given no explanation at any point about why he should be doing things, and while his position in plat indicates that he has a relatively good grasp on at least some concepts in the game, Neace held back from ever explaining why he should be using his w in a particular way. He has gotten to that level of play without mastering his champion. You know when neace gets coached and constantly learns new things about champs, even on ones like Tristana? Every other person explains how and why they do a particular thing. Neace, in the middle of this dude's game, instead tells this dude to combo in a way which is foreign to him, asking him to rewrite 100+ games of muscle memory in the course of a half hour, and *because* this guy is plat, is a dick about it from the start. Neace has admitted, in videos, that he is way nicer to people in low elo. It is an issue with the assumptions that neace makes about plat players that prevents him from treating them as though they are teachable. He doesn't even *try* to teach them, he just rags on them for not understanding a concept he hasn't bothered to explain. When the player insists he *is* capable of doing the combo, it's because he desperately wants to convince neace that he is not a lost cause, and when he does accomplish what neace has been requesting, in the second game, against Darius, after Neace finally *did* explain the concept between games, the guy understood, and was able to more consistently follow the coaching *because it made sense.* You try to learn something new *in the middle of a plat-ranked game* while the person that is supposed to be teaching you is being hostile to you. Then Neace claims that he's never had this conversation with a client about ego before. Just scroll through the thumbnails of Neace's videos and you'll find several that mention Ego in the thumbnail. Neace gets these ideas of who a player is inside his head because of their rank and starts their coaching from a hostile position because he expects them to somehow know what they do not know. He does not try to teach them because "they're a high-enough elo, they should know better" ignoring the fact they paid him $250 because they are willing to admit they *do not* know better. There was nothing willfully ignorant done by this player, nor was he ever intentionally disrespectful of Neace' coaching points. He added them to what he was doing as he came to understand them. Neace went into this expecting a hostile situation and created one. It was a good move on the part of the student to not listen any further when Neace made it abundantly clear that he was not basing his final thoughts on the player, but on his opinion of who this player represents *in neace's mind.* Now, go watch neace rant about Ranged top laners when he faced Senna top in a chill neace video and you'll see exactly the sort of pre-conceived notions that I'm talking about this man having. I believe he may have been playing illaoi at the time. Ranting about an entire sub-category of the meta, claiming he doesn't feel bad about stomping low-elo players because "they're the sort of people who don't use turn signals, etc etc etc" just because someone is playing a champion or tactic that doesn't fit with what his idea of what the meta *should be* is ridiculous. If he saw a Korean player doing well with that same build, you can bet he'd be on here talking about how it's an underrated strat that everyone should play. He's doing an entire series of off-meta builds and doesn't see how hypocritical it is to trash someone who's just trying to play a game, while ranting about how they represent scum of the earth for having chosen a particular champion and rune. I have watched a LOT of neace content lately and this opinion is not based on just one video. My respect for neace as a "coach" has all but disappeared at this point, due to these pre-conceived notions which lead him to be hostile to people right from the start of their coachings with him, with no explanation given aside from the elo they happen to be in.

@@Prowler9000 thank you, 💯% hits the nail on the head

It's a mix, you need to have a passion/ego to know that you can be the best in any situation while also being able to acknowledge when you aren't living up to that. This is true of any competition and the truly best will be able to balance both.

@NorseViking84 passion and ego are two sides of the same coin. Look at competitors like Michael Jordan, Cristiano Ronaldo, Lebron James. Egos that were properly fostered to make their vision of themselves as the best a reality.

@NorseViking84 facts lmao I mean look at Lebron one thing a lot of people hold against him is that he self proclaimed himself to be the GOAT and that just rubbed the people the wrong way cause it’s egotistical with Jordan he had an ego but not so much of an ego to impact him from not getting better

@NorseViking84 100% in physical sports, if you don't fully believe in yourself in the cage or on a platform when lifting you won't get far by just being humble alone.

@NorseViking84 well there's a difference between thinking you're a borderline demigod and thinking you're just good shit. The latter is imo just not being delusional with your own self worth and having some healthy confidence. Rhonda was straight up delusional to the point she thought she even beats up all the men. Like Mike Tyson is super cocky, but if he said he'd beat a bear in a fist fight that's taking it too far lmao.

i agree hes terrible at coaching.

wait it is really his main account ?

@@gameramv6163 If you go through his catalog of videos you will see he never keeps a "main" account. He somehow always manages to have silver and bronze accounts.

This comment deserves all the likes 😂

thats a chonky kitty

he is like 1.1-1.4mil i think.

facts how do you play a champ that much and not know all their combos and tips and tricks...there is a video on youtube called tips and tracks, build guides, how to carry with * insert champ name here * for every champ in league

the last point is stupid neace doesnt scream at girls that come on in the same way for example. Some people need a different approach and the "military seargent with guys and compassionate with women" isnt cutting it

@@TheXxomasteroxx He rarely coaches women + most of them actually listens to what he's saying ,so he doesn't have to yell.

@@walkelftexasranger thats not really true i saw him coach women who make the same mistake over and over again where he doesnt immediately start yelling and shit

Yeah and he can only play 1 champ in 1 role too. Having an ego when he is intermediately-skilled at 1 single thing in the game is a bit much.

@@chez-bubulle That's just the easiest way to climb, most boring 1, but the quickest, since you just learn match ups for that certain champ. Who's gonna learn 159 champs and be equally good at high elo level, it would take 10 years to do that, smaller the champ pool the quicker is climb.

@@stefansimicic yes exactly. Not much to be proud of and ego about. Probably knows absolutely nothing about jungling, jungle tracking, ward placements, arc positioning, etc. To get higher elo you need to know the basics of every role even if you don't play them. For example as a jungler, i need to know basically every possible matchup so i know which lane will probably be ahead, behind, or going even. If you just learn to clear your camps with 1 champ and nothing else, no way you get past gold

@@chez-bubulle I would agree and disagree with you there, based on your experience it might be like that, but tbh match up doesn't always end up as predicted, especially in lower elo, watching minimap and camera (when you can) on lanes is usually enough to show you what you should gank and what is just wasting time. It is true that you need to have more knowledge as jungler than any other role. Just speaking from my own experience as I peaked plat 1 multiple seasons, but they just decided to delete my otp (old Aatrox). This guy plays only wu, I just wonder what he do when he gets autofilled or get his 2nd role (mid) does he play wu or pray that his team gives him top. Also he either needs to learn 1 more champ as backup or just needs to doge. He will hardly win any game when he gets his wu banned.

@@chez-bubulle and even at that champ he suvks i could first time wukong and wiukd play 10 times less clunky

Wow, I'm in the same boat as you. Got to Plat 3 this season, used to be hardstuck in Gold. I tried for a bit to push for Diamond but it just takes far more effort and time than I'm currently willing/able to do.

never reinstall. its a mistake. the only winning move is to not play unless you make money from it

@@chabot4006 funnily enough I’m making “something” out of it 😂

@@takezoedits keeping your virginity isnt geting something out of it.

Like Diamond is the goal that redeems you from all your mortal sins..... I reached Diamond 5 years ago by playing like 30 games per Season and just watching gameplay of chinese 1500lp+ people who play my champs. But like a normal human I realized at some point that rank is totally irrelevant and now im Gold 1, dont give a fuck about anything game related and im happy af. Dont aim for Diamond, aim, to imrpove or aim to have fun.

I can rap on this ay yo play some beat

13:50 this is the bit where this guy proves that he's a 100% an eBay. He is not even boosted, he straight up bought an account. Like how can you be in platinum and not know jack shit about shaco boxes (pun not intended)? Also w after trade on Wukong is such a core move that even people who don't play him at all would intuitively figure out that part. It's hard to do public job like this when someone is actively trying to make you look bad imo. And maybe this guy didn't do it out of sheer malice but literally out of ego issues. If he just said that he was bronze (i think unranked person understands what eqw on Wu does) I'm pretty sure Neace would treat him way differently. It's just insane how little knowledge this dude has about this game. And ofc Neace got frustrated because it's impossible to be in plat and to be that bad. I completely understand his frustration. I got frustrated and i didn't even had to deal with that guy, thankfully. I would roast him waaaay harder. If it was me coaching him I'd just be like "have your money back, noob. And, uh, uninstall" XD

well i mean hes literally challenger, he actually knows this game really fucking well. thats why hes coaching, to help people make the right choices and get the right mindset like he has. i dont think that sounds like "ego" issues at all.

I dont think you understand what ego means. Confidence or assurance are exactly the same with or without ego... arrogance and obnoxious are not...

@@Lara-zr3ox kind of adds to this at the beginning when neace asks about the other couple of champs he picks occasionally... "so when wukong is banned you automatically lock in malphite?" "Yerp" "OK I'm gonna coach you on this other champion to give you a solid second pick for when wukong is banned or picked already" "OK yeah he seems broken?" Dude... why are you either pure defensive and denial, or just completely ignorant and guessing? This is your account right? Sus

Is there a video?

@@xska2767 yep. called "jungling from square one" or smthng like that. the thumbnail is xin zhao. im sure youll find it

When you're eating, vaping, and watching chat instead of hard focusing on the game and the coach you spent $250 on, it's really hard to see that. His actions and behavior didn't prove it.

@@tiffaleah6690 so dont vape or eat snacks when you dead? im masters and i legit go check on my dog and come back. you have a bronze mentality lol play smooth, smooth is fast.

someone who has social awareness WOW. i get league players cant read between the lines but damn these people are sheep for neace.

Bro is trolling

@@Sorest2 I think he got some things out of this too, but where I think it's unfair is to call it a prime example of plat ego.

@@Sorest2 a comment like "you should focus more if you want to climb and close stream, don't vape, take away distractions" would have been an ACTUAL coaching comment, not accusing the guy of being ego inflated when he literally agreed to everything Neace said and did his best to follow through. Neace might be a very good League player but definitely is not a very good coach.

@@LegionL-A I think he’s one of the best coaches available, I just don’t think this was the best session.

He paid around 250 dollars for a top level player to coach him. If all he wanted was to chill and be friends with Neace, he should have thrown that money in a pit of fire instead. Neace wants the guy to get better, it's just impossible for him to do so if he isn't trying at all

You wanna chill? Go outside and do whatever you want or play a MMO . When you play a game to rank up in a competitive game , you cant just chill you have to concentrate and think to play .

@@marcusmeins1839 Did u read my comment at all? Im not saying hes right, im saying he had a point, that its not ego, he came here to chill and play, thats okay for him when he plays all alone, but when u book a coach u need to concentrate in order to elevate ur game, he was wrong about come here to chill with neace, thats not what this is about.

@@vDeadbolt How is Neace the one to judge him when he's getting paid? If the guy doesn't take it seriously, then it is what it is and Neace is $250 richer for doing nothing.

@@kaedond because Neace cares about his clients improving. He doesn't want that 250 to go to waste. It's funny seeing that argument, only for the same people to get mad at companies treating their employees like trash and ripping off customers.

He couldn't coach because his client lacks the basic fundamentals. You don't pay Neace to teach you fundamentals. You pay him to improve on macro. Especially at Plat ELO, its pathetic. He can't coach someone if they are uncoachable.

the client clearly didn't care about the coaching at all . watching the stream chat, eating cashews , vaping? . you can't play a game while doing these things at the same time,i even tried playing any game while eating snacks and i just couldn't do it .

I'm gonna fire up wukong and give it a shot too lol

Nice you missed the entire point

@@IsEltyr Nice you missed the entire joke

@@geekerlmao damn

Plat is basically the point you reach when you have at least the bare minimum skill required to remotely play against other competitive players as well as getting large numbers of games on the board. Reaching plat for the first time is like graduating from school only to find that the real world is way tougher and you should have studied for your exams. Neace mentions it often to his clients that they need more games if they want to climb and that's basically the main prereq to getting plat. I don't care who you are if you play 5 ranked games a day and you're even remotely a teammate you'll be plat in no time.

I agree! this guy has done wonders to my improvement & I didn’t even have to pay him 😭

It's actually true. I've been watching Neace's videos for almost 2 years now and I've gone from Gold 4/3 to now Plat 3. His videos are tremendous help and I'm glad that he has enough reach/popularity to where he can provide people VODs like this who can't afford it.

thats why its crazy to me that there are freaks who actually pay 200+ just to get something they could get for free xD

He said he has never said that in his coach session before, he can still see that its a common issue in plat

@@williamlindroos2250 And? Are you saying he never coached plats before? If it's common among plats + he coached plats before, there is a very little chance he never saw it, therefore the contradiction.

@@yoniker83 it might be a problem, but he might never have had that conversation with anyone before.

@@williamlindroos2250 Yes, in the same sense, he might have won the lottery 3 times in a row: He said that many plats players have this ego problem. Probably most, let's assume that only 50% have it. If he coached only 30 plats, the chance he never met one is less than 1 in a billion. Possible, but as unlikely as winning the lottery 3 times in a row. But it gets worse: Assuming he never coached a plat with ego problems, how could he deduct that plats are plagued with "ego-itis"?! :D :D :D

@@yoniker83 they could have an ego problem but not to the point where he solely blames their inability to climb on that.

I mean, I wouldn't think anyone would spend hundreds of dollars to vape and eat cashews while they're supposed to be trying to learn, but I would be wrong about that.

lol

I think that the "ego" thing is maybe not the best word choice. Dude doesn't think he's good, he thinks he's a performer on a stage, and that he'll only make a name for himself by acting like an absolute fucking idiot. Best indication is 33:15 "C'mere boy!", like, dude needs to shut the fuck up. I think some of it is just atrocious social awkwardness. I noticed that he CANNOT just be silent and process things after NEACE gives him feedback, he always has to make a dumb joke or have some stupid laugh.

Irl coaches don't roast you for yt content and a thumbnail.

@@TheSquirrelbeast But they DO roast you

​@@TheSquirrelbeastspoken like someone who's never even played a sport coaches will absolutely roast you in front of your team if your fucking up ,don't speak on sht you clearly don't know anything about

Even with real life confusion a person could still be receptive to criticism, he was not

If you’re paying to be coached, you should be locked in and focused on getting better. Not reading chat or any other thing that could distract you. It’s as if you are on your phone during basketball practice. If Neace didn’t care about the guy getting better he would’ve just pocketed the $250 and let the guy waste his money. His frustration shows that he actually cared about this session.

Then don’t hire him.

That's what I was thinking, a good way to tell whether or not the client was ego'ing, was by his reaction when Neace first called him out, and his reaction definitely does not sound like he was ego'ing at all, or he was just so stunned that someone as observant as Neace worked out his elaborate psyche and mind games he was playing lmao

Fr dude, watching the end of the video I felt so bad for the guy, he was trying to calm the situation down but he just kept getting bullied for inane shit like "you were looking at chat" (which could have just been down to insecurity) and "you were levelling using your mouse like a bronze player" by someone he PAID to help him. Dude was clearly open to learning, he followed what Neace said for most of the video, they just had a few personality clashes and he got humiliated for it because Neace couldn't let go of his first impressions of the guy. It was unprofessional af.

I agree neace was in the wrong this coaching session but I also disagree with you because this is a standard combo and for a plat wukong there is not a way he shouldn't know that, in fact he reaffirmed he does know it . neace was an ass though and this was so sad to watch . client quick league now

Nope, felt this way as well. When Neace kept going in saying "you're just trying to show off" or "plat ego" I was like, I haven't gotten that literally at all from this guy, certainly not to the extent that warrants that kind of response from Neace, a "coach." Neace seems to be the one who needs an ego check on this one. People keep comparing him to a "drill sergeant" (??), but even a DS wouldn't be able to make meaningful change by screaming at someone for an hour and calling it good. You're coaching a single session, not running a 6 month bootcamp. The guy was clearly nervous and embarrassed to be playing on stream.

Nope dude don’t listen dude not fully immersed in a coaching game like yeah right