I have to read this by next week, but I’m already swamped with so many other readings for my Philosophy, religion, and writing classes (not to mention personal readings and a job to really overwhelm me) so having this audio version playing while I cook dinner on a chill Saturday evening is such a lifesaver, and I hope you know that.
Finally finished after 5 months (got distracted by 30 other books lol). Socrates is one of a kind in that he is willing to die for truth. He ultimately does this while being put on trial against Athens. I guess this was the prelude to that. The main message is that being treated unjustly is better than being unjust because the character/behavior you exert on the world is a reflection of your own soul, not how other people behave. Other people are out of your control. You can even expect to be treated unjustly if you pursue truth because the truth is often unpleasant. Socrates doesn't care. If we speak any rhetoric, dialogue, teachings, politics, etc. it should always be in pursuit of truth and nothing else. Great reading.
22:35 Learning and Conviction. 59:38 "is there anything that is nieher good or bad?" 1:01:22 "We want to do that which is beneficial, and we don't want to do that which is harmful". 2:13:28 "then those who have no need of anything are wrongly said to be happy" 1:51:38 "philosophy is för Children, Socrates!"😂 2:52:37 "For things I say, I certainly don't say with any knowledge at all. No, I'm searching together with you." 2:53:49 "Is the pleasant the same as the good?" 2:57:26 "Each of us must flee away from lack of discipline as quickly as his feet will carry him." 3:26:11 bookmark.
Important timestamps: 38:45 - "Knowledge of virtue makes one virtueous." 41:10 - "Broadly speaking rethoric can be used unjustly, as it is not a tool of gaining knowledge, but a tool of convincing."
My crime and punishment class has us reading articles that are 20-40 pages long for each class. I was out sick all of last week so when I checked what the reading was for this week after lunch (I like to do the reading before class as its discussion based and have it fresh for the class) and saw it was an actual book. This has saved my life haha! 2x speed and I will have five minutes left before class. So far, such a interesting dialogue between these men.
I was seriously struggling to read this for my political theory class. Thank you so so so so so much for this video. I really couldn't have done it without you lol
I know these are five years old, but having some way of differentiating who is speaking would be much appreciated, as I listen while working or driving. Thank you for this work, nonetheless!
Yes, the Gorgias is one of the longest dialogues. But also one of the best and most interesting. Happy to see your journey progressing through the dialogues. The republic will be coming soon.
Next time, maybe do a reading where you use a different "voice" for each person 😂. Seriously, I'd volunteer to help with the voice acting if you'd like me to play a few characters
Thank you, sir, your audio versions of the dialogues with accompanying text is a precious finding to me, because I’m studying English as a second language. You pronounce words in a very comprehensible fashion, so it’s convenient to untrained ear. However, your version being good, would be ten times better, if you put just a little more emotions into pronouncing answers. I've heard the same dialogue in Russian and it seems to me that Gorgias is not only great philosophical text, but also piece of beautiful literature. Again, thank you very much for great effort.
You are very welcome! Receiving a comment like this makes it all worth while. I'm so happy that you find it of benefit for your language learning. I will keep your critique about adding emotion in mind when I do more dialogues. Have you seen the rest of the dialogues in the Plato Playlist? Thanks again for the comment, and good luck with your language journey and Platonic studies! 🙏
Hi I couldn't find the numbered markings on this text you have. I only need to study an extract for my class, so would you be able to reply with the time when 479 in the text occurs? Thank you
