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Platoon (1986) First Time Watching! Movie Reaction!! 

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Platoon (1986)
I think now, looking back, we did not fight the enemy; we fought ourselves. And the enemy... was in us....
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@TBRSchmitt
@TBRSchmitt 3 года назад
A disturbing look inside the fight between themselves and the enemy… This was a rough watch yet easy to appreciate for what it made us feel! Thank you for your support!
@Mr.Goodkat
@Mr.Goodkat 3 года назад
If you want to see a rough watch you should watch "come and see" 1985 also a war movie, considered the best by many.
@jaredandres7666
@jaredandres7666 3 года назад
Hamburger Hill is pretty rough Vietnam Movie
@doolittlegeorge
@doolittlegeorge 3 года назад
You can watch the interview with Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara who was alive and well after the USSR collapsed. Of course the Author of the "X Telegram" was alive and well back then too. Clark Clifford I think was still around. If you think Vietnam in the 60s was bad you should have tried Washington DC in the 1990s.
@TheEndKing
@TheEndKing 3 года назад
Your poor wife, dude, she's such a trooper watching all these. One of these days you gotta watch like "You Got Mail" or something to make it up to her.
@pappajudas9267
@pappajudas9267 3 года назад
I guess next up for Vietnam films is the Deer Hunter. Although you were saying you needed a break from the heavy stuff, maybe go with Good morning Vietnam it still has its heavy Parts but it's Robin Williams film.
@imp736
@imp736 2 года назад
My grandmother was the only one out of my whole family and friends who wrote to me when I was in Vietnam in 1970. I was stationed at a little rat hole called Phu Bai, about 80 clicks away from the DMZ. Those letters from her helped me get through it all, so I relate to him writing to his grandmother.
@ajarmenta9658
@ajarmenta9658 2 года назад
Thank you for your service, sir. Youre actions and selfless service have inspired today's warriors and have carried the beacon for peace. If you ever would like to talk about your time let me now, Ill always lend an ear to any veteran, God bless,
@wasclit11
@wasclit11 2 года назад
Welcome home brother - 20th SOS UH-1N Huey doorgunner Class of 71
@emilianosintarias7337
@emilianosintarias7337 2 года назад
@@ajarmenta9658 What are you talking about, the guy was tricked into going into hell, watch his friends die, get shot at, just to be an accomplice to terrorism and mass murder. Thank god he made it out. But you should thank the vietnamese, for defending their country like david facing off against goliath. And Phu Bai is now a nice town, not a rate hole anymore, because vietnamese soldiers died doing so.
@imp736
@imp736 2 года назад
@@wasclit11 Thanks man, I appreciate your taking time, and to me it`s special to receive the first welcome home from a fellow Vietnam Vet. I would like to welcome you "home" as well, and to thank you for your service. In "71" your unit was known as the "Green Hornets" right?
@labased2539
@labased2539 2 года назад
Welcome home, Soldier.
@archstanton664
@archstanton664 3 года назад
Barnes was terrible but I really hated Junior too. Straight up fell asleep and immediately blamed someone else.
@kevinbaconwasntinfootloose1742
@kevinbaconwasntinfootloose1742 3 года назад
The guy from scrubs is probably my least favorite character. He's always patronizing everyone but then acts like a coward.
@mirtaabreu7124
@mirtaabreu7124 3 года назад
So happy to see him getting shanked.
@DerOberfeldwebel
@DerOberfeldwebel 3 года назад
I liked that Barnes didn't say much, but did let Junior know he knew exactly who messed that thing up.
@centuryrox
@centuryrox 3 года назад
@@DerOberfeldwebel Yes, and that was one of the best things he did in this movie. He didn't call him out in front of the rest of the platoon, because they needed to stay a cohesive unit and not have everyone point the finger of blame.
@flip97gt
@flip97gt 3 года назад
I remember pulling security in the field while in the Army. Waking up the next guy and handing off the NODS (night observation devices) with only a couple of hours to get sleep before stand-to was not fun. Oh, and don't be that guy waking up in the morning with the NODS right next to you.
@TwiggyKeely
@TwiggyKeely 2 года назад
My dad was 18 years old and fought as a tunnel rat with the Marines in Vietnam from 1968-1970 and he said when he watched platoon he could feel the heat and the humidity of the jungle again, like he was right back in 130° heat and 100% humidity. He said it was one of the most accurate war movies on Vietnam he'd ever seen. My Dad was killed by Agent Orange 4 years ago, it's a chemical that US Government used in the war to kill large swaths of jungle and destroy Vietnam's crops, and the Marines and soldiers were exposed and are dying 50+ years later from it. I was born with kidney failure from my Dad's exposure to agent orange in Nam. But yeah he said this movie is extremely accurate and it's been one of my favorites since my Dad first let me watch it 15 years ago.
@johnfreepunk6664
@johnfreepunk6664 Год назад
Bless him for his service. Know that he is a hero to me for just being there. No one should have taken part of that brutality, especially so young. Thank him for me. And know the boys outta Afghanistan with me thank him too.
@messivsronaldostudio4643
@messivsronaldostudio4643 Год назад
Chính phủ mỹ được cầm đầu bởi tay sai của quỷ dữ. Bố của bạn đã sai lầm khi bị chính phủ Mỹ lừa dối.
@jschleicher
@jschleicher 3 года назад
The back story of Barnes is that we was the only survivor of a patrol and was shot in the face by a NVA soldier and left for dead. Once he was put back together we went back into action knowing he was not going to live through the war, and wanted to kill every Vietnamese he could, and anyone that got in his way. Barnes and Elias were both guys that just kept re elisting to stay in the fight for totally opposite reasons. Elias wanted to save his guys. Barnes just couldn't stop killing.
@yaimavol
@yaimavol 2 года назад
5% of the world are psychopaths and another 5% are sociopaths. You put them in the jungle where they can shoot to kill with impunity... they are going to re-enlist every time
@Zack_410
@Zack_410 Год назад
@Zoomer Stasi He wasn't at all. Watch the film again. He's nothing to be admired.
@TomAZ1984
@TomAZ1984 Год назад
@Zoomer Stasi based!
@energeez
@energeez Год назад
@ZoomerStasiyea but he was the machine breaking down.
@paulbentley1705
@paulbentley1705 11 месяцев назад
You read the book, so did I.👍🏼
@cliffwheeler7357
@cliffwheeler7357 9 месяцев назад
Tom Berenger playing the role of Sgt. Barnes was deservedly nominated for the best supporting actor Oscar. The fact he didn’t win it, is a travesty.
@tylerpacker6047
@tylerpacker6047 3 года назад
Charlie Sheen (Taylor) and Tom Berenger (Barnes) immediately went from this movie to making the movie Major League. You two should definitely watch that to see how amazing they transitioned to very different roles.
@christophersims7060
@christophersims7060 2 года назад
That is really great to know that because after this movie they really needed a pick-me-up I bet place to relax a little! That was such a great movie to they should definitely see the Major League!
@hoopsmccann639
@hoopsmccann639 2 года назад
major league is a great movie! my parents let me watch it when i was in 2nd grade. needless to say i picked up a few new vocabulary words that i still use today. and it made me want to read moby dick. haha
@baronvg
@baronvg 2 года назад
Go from one of the best war films to one of the best sports comedies without missing a beat. Amazing actors.
@_eclipz_
@_eclipz_ 2 года назад
one of the funniest movies ever, wasn't a young wesley snipes in that one too? haha
@serviceadvisormaxbyservice916
@@_eclipz_ Don't steal home without it.
@benmason9755
@benmason9755 2 года назад
Oliver Stone volunteered to go to Vietnam, and the character of Taylor is basically a representation of himself, while the film is largely an autobiographical depiction of his own experiences during his tour of duty. Pretty much everything depicted here is exactly as Stone himself experienced it, and is widely regarded as THE true, honest screen depiction of what it was REALLY LIKE in the Vietnam War.
@pokeround
@pokeround 3 года назад
Samantha's "hello!'" always makes me feel like I just arrived at a party I'm welcome at. xD
@stsolomon618
@stsolomon618 3 года назад
Facts
@IR4TE
@IR4TE 3 года назад
Absolutely true
@samantha_schmitt
@samantha_schmitt 3 года назад
Aww I love this! ❤️
@conureron3792
@conureron3792 3 года назад
@Shawn D - Animal House would be a good movie to review, if they need a comedy to cleanse the palate of intense war films! Does have Neidermeyer, though, who may have been Barnes but at the college ROTC level!
@ChipWhitingtonIII
@ChipWhitingtonIII 3 года назад
I was gonna comment this exact thing. It just puts me at ease.
@Brian316ful
@Brian316ful 2 года назад
I love Platoon so much because it feels more like a Documentary rather then movie especially with Oliver Stone a Vietnam Veteran directing it.
@hebber1961
@hebber1961 3 года назад
It's the movie Frank Drebin and girlfriend were leaving from and laughing about in Naked Gun.
@pedrolopez8057
@pedrolopez8057 3 года назад
he actually did 2 tours, once with the 1st Cav. and once with the 4th Inf.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 2 года назад
In the Behind the Scenes on the DVD, one of the actors laughed, 'it's the ultimate Christmas movie!' It was in fact, released at Christmas.
@mediasawdust2458
@mediasawdust2458 3 года назад
"Make it outta here, it's all gravy, every day of the rest of your life - gravy."
@bdog1323
@bdog1323 3 года назад
One of the most underrated war quotes ever.
@TBRSchmitt
@TBRSchmitt 3 года назад
Great line!
@m.e.3862
@m.e.3862 3 года назад
I worked with vets in my old job and they didn't give a shit about petty office politics. I saw one of them laugh in a supervisor's face when he was told that there would be a note in his file for too many absences. This vet saw his best friends killed in front of him. A yellow note in his file compared to what he survived is a joke. They really weren't kidding about this quote
@centuryrox
@centuryrox 3 года назад
King was one of my favorite characters in this movie. He was very likeable and always seem to know the right words to say to give comfort to others.
@PapaEli-pz8ff
@PapaEli-pz8ff 2 года назад
Too bad it wasn't gravy for everyone who made it back to "the world".This war was very personal to me.. my oldest brother did a tour back in 1966 or '67. A cousin served served in 1968. Several guys from my neighborhood. I remember reading a review of this film at the time it was first released. The writer pointed out how "Platoon" acted as a catharsis for many veteran who went to see it. In some instances, they were actually crying in the movie theaters..
@fday1964
@fday1964 3 года назад
In the Naked Gun movie, there was a brief bit where Leslie Nielson and Priscilla Presley leave a theater, laughing...and on the marquee is Platoon. A visual joke that probably makes sense after seeing this film.
@KurticeYZ
@KurticeYZ 3 года назад
Such a f'd up yet funny lil joke
@fritzk3627
@fritzk3627 3 года назад
It’s like Seinfeld, where they were making out in Schindler’s List. So effed up…
@FirebirdCamaro1220
@FirebirdCamaro1220 2 года назад
@@fritzk3627 I remember that Seinfeld episode, guarantee that Larry David personally contributed that joke in the writing room
@SMRMUSICATX
@SMRMUSICATX 3 года назад
Fun fact: The final battle is based off the New Years Eve Battle which Oliver Stone fought in and earned a Bronze Star. For years he thought he imagined that battle until he ran into a fellow veteran who explained it all to him.
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 3 года назад
Winner of 4 Oscars including Best Picture. Based Loosely on the life of Oliver Stone whom was in the Army during the Vietnam War. Willem Dafoe, Tom Berenger, Charlie Sheen, Johnny Depp, Forest Whitaker, Kevin Dillon, John C. McGinley, and Keith David star in this epic war film.
@greglapointe1311
@greglapointe1311 3 года назад
Realistic Vietnam war flick with veterans Oliver Stone and Dale Dye, who is a technical advisor on a lot of war movies. Oliver Stone was on the field phone in the tent when the suicide bomber ran in.
@FilthTribeFTP
@FilthTribeFTP 3 года назад
Can't forget the Candyman himself! Tony Todd!
@trhansen3244
@trhansen3244 3 года назад
@Shawn D He has my favorite moment in the movie. When he is just staring at the aftermath of the battle.
@FilthTribeFTP
@FilthTribeFTP 3 года назад
@Shawn D you mean "aka the captain/colonel/general in every single war movie". Lmao! Dude, Dale Dye has played a high ranking military officer in so many movies/TV shows, a lot of them classics.... It's insane. He was even in that alien invasion apocalypse TV show called Falling Skies for like an episode or two right?
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 3 года назад
@Necramonium From the DVD extras, after they shot the Village Scene, both Stone and Dyle didn't say anything. Just 'Cut!' and both turned around and walked away.
@ermericcarolissen694
@ermericcarolissen694 3 года назад
The characters of Barnes and Ellias are depictions of the inner conflict in every soldier. Whether they act like Ellias or Barnes during conflict. There is a conflict between good and evil in everyone. But it's up to us to decide which one wins.
@cyberdan42
@cyberdan42 2 года назад
Exactly, war pushes people to that precipice, it removes the veneer of civilisation and reduces people to the basest instincts, survive, fight, kill or die. Barnes represents the soldier that allows the violence to be unleashed, he is not actually a sadist, during the movie you don't see him rape, he experiences rage and focusses it without restraint, he also allows those men in the unit who are truly savage carte blanche to indulge that viciousness. On the contrary Elias, a similar veteran killer, controls and restrains that violence, he focuses his killer instinct to protect the men around him, not simply the physical safety, but in a horrific environment he attempts to protect the psyche of his men as well. Barnes becomes convinced that Elias, representing mercy and responsibility (externally and within the men) must be eliminated because the division will destroy the unit (Barnes has already done this within himself, destroyed the merciful to preserve his increasingly extreme, savage inner-mind). Elias, who serves the men simply must trust Barnes, it is intrinsic to the self. The truly evil people are Junior a coward who never accepts responsibility, Bunny who is a true sadist, Sgt O'Neill who is the NCO who, like Junior, avoids responsibility and constantly defers to Barnes and ultimately the Officer, Lt. Wolfe the man who should be in command and is constantly out of his depth and ends up deferring to Barnes.
@elcorado83
@elcorado83 2 года назад
They were based on actual people the director knew in the war when he was there. Though neither were as extreme!
@BullseyeForever24
@BullseyeForever24 Год назад
Barnes was just evil ! Was a total murderer
@tdrewman
@tdrewman 3 года назад
When my father first landed in Nam, the first thing he saw was the body bags being loading in a transport heading back to the states. This movie brought a lot of memories back for my father. He was in the Air Force, he did see some combat even though he was an aircraft mechanic.
@TBRSchmitt
@TBRSchmitt 3 года назад
That sounds rough! I’m sorry he had to experience that
@meadmaker4525
@meadmaker4525 3 года назад
You should look at the "making-of" documentary about this movie. Oliver Stone took the actors out into the actual jungle out there and had spec-ops veterans train them, run night drills, and treat them like grunts in the field. They fed them MREs, made them deal with the bugs and leeches, and ended up breaking more than one of them. A lot of what you see in the film isn't acting, it's what these guys were seeing and feeling at the time. When Charlie Sheen wept on the chopper at the end, it was because he was actually leaving and Oliver Stone told him he was done and could go home.
@MakoSucks
@MakoSucks Год назад
From what I remember from the Director's Commentary, Stone told him you'll never see your friends again, and mentioned them by name, Elias, Big Harold, etc. And that's what made him cry.
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac Год назад
Surely not MREs, probably C-Rats right? Not to be a pedantic dickhead but MREs hadnt been invented yet and therefore totally anachronistic for the Vietnam war.
@acdchook
@acdchook 3 года назад
One of my grandfather's friends was a tunnel rat in Vietnam. When they found tunnels, he was sent in to scout them out with a light and a pistol. Those guys had to do a lot of close-quarters killing. He was a really nice guy, but a little strange, unsurprisingly.
@storman4482
@storman4482 2 года назад
Strange ? How so ?
@aryastark772
@aryastark772 Месяц назад
@@storman4482probably strange in the sense they mean eccentric. But what is considered normal eh?
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 3 года назад
Made on a $6 million dollar budget, it made $140 million dollars at the box office.
@TBRSchmitt
@TBRSchmitt 3 года назад
That’s insane!
@Asher8328
@Asher8328 3 года назад
Movies that don't portray the US military in a positive light don't get a lot of financing and are almost impossible to get made. That's just reality.
@rustincohle2135
@rustincohle2135 3 года назад
@@Asher8328 Yea, that's why "Platoon" is basically an independent film. Oliver Stone had been trying to sell his script since the early '70s. The studios thought it was a good script but no one wanted to make it because it was so downbeat and depressing. So, it's really ironic that "Platoon" became a blockbuster. It's the most financially successful Vietnam War movie out of the bunch (Coming Home, The Deer Hunter, Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket etc.).
@stell4you
@stell4you 3 года назад
@@Asher8328 I would say this movie is portraying the US military negatively. In the end there is one bad guy, while we know that was not the truth.
@andarporbuenosaires
@andarporbuenosaires 3 года назад
Mel Gibson's Hacksaw Ridge, made only 5 years ago, was made only with 40 million dollars (a very low budget for today) and it seems like 150 million for everything that is seen on the scene, incredible what Mel Gibson achieved with so low budget.
@MrJpierre1000
@MrJpierre1000 3 года назад
The actor that played Francis was Corey Glover, singer for the band Living Colour.
@greglapointe1311
@greglapointe1311 3 года назад
The actor who played Sal was the original drummer for Sonic Youth.
@davidvainqueur5511
@davidvainqueur5511 3 года назад
The actor who played Manny was the original Ringo.
@bdog1323
@bdog1323 3 года назад
The actor who played Chris Taylor survived the battle at the end because he had tiger blood.
@georgemorley1029
@georgemorley1029 3 года назад
The actress who played the angry Vietnamese woman who got shot went on to become the all-Asian invitational over 60s’ shot-put champion.
@georgemorley1029
@georgemorley1029 3 года назад
The Ants that Charlie Sheen swatted away from his neck at the start of the film went on to star in many more Vietnam war films, including Full Metal Jacket, as “Ant number one”, “Ant number two” and “Ant number three”. Only Ant number two would ever find really enduring success in show business though, going on to be chief Ant adviser on “Ant of Brothers” and “Saving Private Ry-Ant”.
@osirispluto8782
@osirispluto8782 3 года назад
19:31 Not sure if you can really see it, but I 'love' the fact that they have this scene in here where Chris is holding a grenade in his hands (thinking about blowing himself up) then tries to nonchalantly drop it before any of his approaching fellow soldiers notice. Just another element that really speaks to the nightmarish reality they were experiencing. Charlie Sheen actually came up with the idea for doing that on the spot the day of filming and Oliver Stone thought it was perfect.
@Silky808
@Silky808 3 года назад
“Born on the 4th of July” is also a good movie.
@carsonmatthews7705
@carsonmatthews7705 2 года назад
Undeniably one of Tom Cruise’s best performances
@FirebirdCamaro1220
@FirebirdCamaro1220 2 года назад
Also done by Oliver Stone, he did a third Vietnam film in the early 90's Heaven And Earth, which is from the Veitnamese perspective, also good
@Arthur_King_of_the_Britons
@Arthur_King_of_the_Britons 2 года назад
I'm surprised there aren't more people talking about that movie in the comments, it's Oliver Stone's best imo - and Tom Cruise killed it. It's a bit more like the Deer Hunter or Coming Home in that it's about the effects of war but it's such an emotional flick
@clarencewalker3925
@clarencewalker3925 2 года назад
Also, this film was based on director Oliver Stone's enlistment in 1968 and during the Tet Offensive.
@micheletrainor1601
@micheletrainor1601 Год назад
It was based on the directors Oliver Stone's experiences in Vietnam. A brilliant movie. A soldier you should look up is Roy Benevedas as his story of his time in Vietnam are just insane. Such an amazing story and man. Total respect for him. In his first tour he was injured so badly he was told he would never walk again yet so he was told he would be discharged but he begged to do office work instead. He never stopped his training and went on to walk again then he became a navy seal but its what he did next was even more unbelievable. A hero.
@xxtank999xx
@xxtank999xx Год назад
I Heard Oliver stone talk about this on Joe Rogan’s podcast
@renemies78
@renemies78 3 года назад
Casualties of War by Brian De Palma and The Deer Hunter by Michael Cimino are the last two war films based on Vietnam you guys should see. I know it's a difficult subject matter but a lot of the things depicted in these movies happened. That's why so many veterans came back home broken and our society spat in their faces and called them baby killers. A lot of the people who were homeless in the 80s and 90s were Vietnam vets and it's heart breaking. But these movies need to be seen and talked about or else we are doomed to repeat our mistakes. Great video and I do hope you guys mix it up a bit with comedies. Those are also good videos.
@charlesderosas5577
@charlesderosas5577 3 года назад
Hamburger hill is also good.
@rogerg4269
@rogerg4269 3 года назад
don't forget born on the fourth of july
@IbrahimHoldsForth
@IbrahimHoldsForth 3 года назад
De Palma got skewered (unfairly) for "Casualties of War." He had made some riske thrillers in the 80s which contained overt sexuality and wherein some female characters were definite "sex objects." Some mean critics said that, with "Casulties of War," De Palma created a rape fantasy picture. =0
@joeyartk
@joeyartk 3 года назад
@@IbrahimHoldsForth That was a real event. He didn't create a fantasy.
@ca9968
@ca9968 3 года назад
Oliver Stone`s 3rd Vietnam film called Heaven & Earth is also a great watch, criminally underrated!
@shainewhite2781
@shainewhite2781 3 года назад
20:15, Vietnam Vets saw the film and they applauded it, even though some of the stuff they saw was inaccurate, it is exactly how they experienced it
@floorticket
@floorticket 3 года назад
You've watched three of the big four Vietnam flicks. "The Deer Hunter" (1978), was nominated for nine Oscars and took home five including: Best Picture, Best Director and Supporting Actor for Christopher Walken.
@DarthMohammedRules
@DarthMohammedRules 3 года назад
The Deer Hunter is NOT a Vietnam movie. It's a boring-ass wedding movie with a handful of Vietnam thrown in. One of the worst/most boring/overhyped movies I've ever seen. If it wasn't for the Russian roulette scene, I don't think anybody would give half a fuck about that shit movie. *smh*
@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466
@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 3 года назад
@@DarthMohammedRules The Deer Hunter is one of the best war movies, selected by the prestigious AFI as one of the 100 best movies ever made. No amount of whining and short-sighted, tasteless, "wrong" opinions is going to change that, lol.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 2 года назад
@@yeahwellthatsjustlikeyouro7466 Wake me when the wedding scene is over
@asgerhyer5325
@asgerhyer5325 3 года назад
This movie perfectly illustrates war crimes. Most people follow the rules, but you will always have a couple of rotten apples in the basket. Also i really like how you feel the jungle as a really bad place to fight. This is my favorite Nam movie by far
@Daveyboy100880
@Daveyboy100880 3 года назад
Another extremely perceptive reaction/review, guys! Platoon is about as authentic as a Vietnam movie can be, but it still presents a somewhat "heightened" version of events in order to highlight the psychological trauma that the combatants suffered. Some veterans did not think it represented their experiences at all, while others couldn't sit through it all because it was way too close to reality for them. Whatever the "truth," the movie served as a way for Americans to begin to understand what veterans had gone through, and gave veterans some way of beginning to articulate their experiences. With regards to the village scene, these raids were pretty common and known colloquially as "Zippo Raids," because - as you see in the film - the soldiers generally started the fires with cigarette lighters. Because the villages were prime recruitment targets for the Viet Cong, the official US policy was to make the villagers relocate to new areas that had better defences, so the VC couldn't infiltrate them, use them as storage caches or force the inhabitants to fight for them (though many villagers were sympathetic to the VC and willingly helped). The emptied villages were then burned down. The raid in the film was a typically confusing affair for the US soldiers, because the VC were clearly active in the area and they found munitions in the village. However, there was no way to tell if the villagers were willingly helping or if they had been coerced, so you ended up with what happened.
@RevStickleback
@RevStickleback 3 года назад
Oliver Stone made the actors dig their own foxholes for this, and do other work, so they wouldn't just act "tired, hot and dirty", they'd know exactly what if felt like, because that's how'd they'd be feeling. The entire film was also shot in chronoligical order, so each each time somebody died in the film, they left the set, were flown home, and the other actors didn't see them again.
@Manu-rb6eo
@Manu-rb6eo 3 года назад
It's a really well done film, it also shows, amercians were not angels neither in a war. It's also a Biographie, Oliver Stone went to war and he described in the film what he saw in Vietnam.
@joeyartk
@joeyartk 3 года назад
"But I thought we are the good guys?", said every country that ever fought a war. Lol
@Zack_410
@Zack_410 Год назад
I'd say at least 85 percent of people know that we aren't angels, especially when it came to Vietnam. Straight up baddies in that one, NVA ain't angels either but fucking hell.
@Asher8328
@Asher8328 3 года назад
Really impressed that you guys would do this movie. It doesn't get nearly enough attention on these types of channels.
@KurticeYZ
@KurticeYZ 3 года назад
Nor "the deer hunter" but platoon is great too. Dafoe is amazing in it & Tom Berenger
@72tadrian65
@72tadrian65 2 года назад
I fully believe Barns was a serial killer in civilian life.
@PepperSession
@PepperSession 3 года назад
I was a kid when this movie came out. I remember there being a wave of Vietnam War media, from movies like Casualties of War, to songs like Paul Hardcastle's "19."
@randallthomas5207
@randallthomas5207 2 года назад
It took those who served a bit to be able to comment publicly, and for the public to be ready to hear it. My brother and i were watching Hamburger Hill with my nephews and my Dad. About half way through he looked at us, and asked if it was really like that. My brother left the room, and I began to cry. So many, so senselessly died.
@centuryrox
@centuryrox 3 года назад
After seeing this movie, and witnessing the fracturing of the troops, and the ensuing chaos, is it any wonder why so many Vietnam vets suffered for decades with PTSD? Bless their souls. I hope they've finally found the peace they deserve.
@PatrickRyan147
@PatrickRyan147 3 года назад
A lot of those GI's will be around 70 years old now 🙏
@Juggernogger64
@Juggernogger64 3 года назад
To think there are a still bunch of ungratefull snowflakes still calling our veterans baby killer.
@centuryrox
@centuryrox 3 года назад
@@Juggernogger64 Consider the source. And then just dismiss them as completely irrelevant and useless.
@GVoodoo
@GVoodoo 2 года назад
@@Juggernogger64 let them. Not like that many these days are going straight up to someone's face doing it. There will always be opposition.. it's not one you always have to literally fight
@sampardowski5799
@sampardowski5799 3 года назад
We Were Soldiers is a good veitnam war film. It gives another view of veitnam all be it early in the war.
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 3 года назад
*Albeit 😉
@DanielFrost21
@DanielFrost21 3 года назад
Yes, it's about the Battle of Ia Drang, the first major engagement between US soldiers and the NVA.
@evanmoore2141
@evanmoore2141 3 года назад
Excellent film.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 2 года назад
Too bad they cut the final scene "The First Pyrrhic Victory of the Vietnam War" 5: 43
@joerenaud8292
@joerenaud8292 3 года назад
Just as Col. Walter Kurtz said in Apocalypse Now, an effective soldier has to make friends with horror and moral terror but can also fight with their hearts and still be a father and a good husband. You effectively become 2 personalities, a killer and a lover.
@the98themperoroftheholybri33
@the98themperoroftheholybri33 3 года назад
In the british army we use a pen to indicate who is on watch, that way everyone knows who should be sleeping or not
@AdamBorseti
@AdamBorseti 2 года назад
What, like the clicking sound?
@wolfsilinger6303
@wolfsilinger6303 3 года назад
Casualties of War ('89) with Michael J. Fox and Sean Penn is one of the hardest Vietnam Movies I've ever seen. You must see!
@joshuacampbell7493
@joshuacampbell7493 3 года назад
I got another military movie for you guys: Hacksaw Ridge.
@jeffshirton7234
@jeffshirton7234 3 года назад
It was on their poll, along with the excellent "The Dirty Dozen".
@MovieGuy808
@MovieGuy808 3 года назад
They should watch something cheerful before that. That movie is intense!
@TBRSchmitt
@TBRSchmitt 3 года назад
We will get to every movie on our poll eventually! Just not sure the order yet lol! And yeah we need some light hearted movies for awhile haha!
@Saalome84Blue
@Saalome84Blue 3 года назад
@@TBRSchmitt ...when you need to watch some movies with positive message i recommend: Enemy Mine (1985) directed by Das Boot director Wolfgang Petersen...
@SonofPerson
@SonofPerson 3 года назад
Yes! Good man, that Desmond Doss. A living, breathing, real-life angel.
@andarporbuenosaires
@andarporbuenosaires 3 года назад
I recommend that you add to the list: "Born on The Fourth of July" with Tom Cruise, the next film by this same director Oliver Stone, after "Platoon", which narrates the post-war for a soldier and all the physical and psychological consequences. That's probably Tom Cruise's best performance of his entire career. This movie is highly recommended. Also performing in this: Willem Dafoe and Tom Berenger (Barnes) and other supporting Platoon actors. And if we talk about more good Oliver Stone movies, add to the list: JFK that narrates the theory about who murdered the president and the controversial Natural Born Killers, other good Oliver movies.
@arcticblue248
@arcticblue248 3 года назад
Actually he sort of made it a vietnam trilogy with Platoon, Born on the 4th of july and Heaven and Earth as conclusion on his Vietnam story.
@caliscribe2120
@caliscribe2120 Год назад
I remember watching this movie in a theater during the Christmas season of 1986 with my brother. One of the few times the whole crowd walked out of the theater almost 100 percent quietly. That has only happened a few times in my lifetime. Very powerful movie.
@classicactionfigures3454
@classicactionfigures3454 3 года назад
This was the first realistic Viet Nam War movie made. Before this movie came out there was stuff like Rambo, Missing in Action, Uncommon Valor, but this movie really showed us many aspects that many people didn't know about. After this movie came out, Hollywood started making more realistic Viet Nam movies like Hamburger Hill, Born on the 4th of July, Casualties of War, etc. It really was a game changer in 80's cinema. Great reaction video. Love your channel.
@mattcampbell7669
@mattcampbell7669 Год назад
Rambo is more of an action movie!
@xxtank999xx
@xxtank999xx Год назад
Oliver Stone who directed this went to Vietnam and said this movie was based on his own personal experiences. He purposefully picked very young actors mostly between 18 and 21 to make it as real as Vietnam was with so many young soldiers drafted right after high school
@Sacrificepain66
@Sacrificepain66 2 года назад
My father was in Vietnam and the stories that he told me are true just like in this movie 100% true it’s all about politics
@insaneconqueror5421
@insaneconqueror5421 3 года назад
Hamburger Hill is a forgotten war movie that a vet I met who was there said the movie is pretty accurate.
@Curraghmore
@Curraghmore 3 года назад
For years I only knew the iconic opening classical music as 'The Platoon music' before I learned it was Samuel Barber's 'Adagio for Strings'.
@PedroCastillo_1980
@PedroCastillo_1980 3 года назад
One of the greatest movies ever made a true classic Platoon written and directed by Oliver Stone starring Tom Berenger, Willem Dafoe and Charlie Sheen. This film won 4 Oscars including best picture and best director for Oliver Stone, thank you so much TBR for reacting this masterpiece👍👍
@adambrown3918
@adambrown3918 3 года назад
Vietnam War movies timeline( more movies to add to your lists ) Pre-War: Go Tell The Spartans - 1978( Story inspired by failed special forces operation at Tan Hoa based on novel Incident at Muc Wa by Daniel Ford - 1964 ) The War: We Were Soldiers - 2002( Battle of Ia Drang - 1965 ) Good Morning Vietnam - 1987 ( Saigon AFRS radio DJ Adrian Cronauer's experiences - 1965 ) Casualties of War - 1989( Incident on Hill 192 - 1966 ) Platoon - 1986( takes place near the Cambodian border - 1967 ) Full Metal Jacket -1987( Basic training & The Tet Offensive - 1968 ) Hamburger Hill - 1987( Battle of Hill 937 - 1969 ) Apocalypse Now - 1979( covert Nung River mission into Cambodia - 1970 ) Bat*21 - 1988( Rescue of Airman Iceal Gene Hambleton "Bat 21 Bravo" behind North Vietnamese lines - 1972 ) The Killing Fields - 1984( Fall of Saigon immediate aftermath - 1973 ) Green Eyes - 1977( A soldier's return to Vietnam to find his family left behind -1977 )
@dewjade4897
@dewjade4897 3 года назад
It's "Ia Drang" not "La Drang." Capital letter of "i."
@adambrown3918
@adambrown3918 3 года назад
@@dewjade4897Sorry! Thank you. I'll fix that. Much appreciated. 😊
@geraldodozapzap6610
@geraldodozapzap6610 3 года назад
the killing fields woulf be the aftermath of the cambodiam civil war no the vietnam
@weslenss5731
@weslenss5731 3 года назад
Hamburguer hill is underrated in my opinion.
@weslenss5731
@weslenss5731 3 года назад
@@geraldodozapzap6610 Geraldo do zap kkkkkk
@gordonmcneil0011
@gordonmcneil0011 3 года назад
As disturbing as the events that take place in the village are in the movie, the reality of some of the things that happened in Vietnam is far worse. I suggest you research the massacre at Mỹ Lai, probably the worst atrocity of the Vietnam war.
@centuryrox
@centuryrox 3 года назад
Yes, I believe the village scene was supposed to represent the My Lai massacre. Maybe not exactly, but to show the overall brutality of it.
@JayM409
@JayM409 3 года назад
The murder of civilians in Hue during the Tet offensive was an order of magnitude worse, at least 6,000 murdered.
@warlockEd73
@warlockEd73 3 года назад
It's important to point out that the approximately 6,000 who were murdered in Hue during Tet were murdered by the North Vietnamese. Mostly people they had to liquidiate like teachers and police officers, people who would stand against the communism the North wanted to interject into the South. Cancel culture taken to It's murderous, inevitable conclusion. Not American servicemen.
@PopeSixtusVI
@PopeSixtusVI 3 года назад
I love watching these reaction videos because they function as best-of hit reels for the movie and your reactions clue me in to things that I missed or didn’t string together. The real villain of this movie is Lt. Wolfe, who absolutely fails to maintain discipline within his unit, allows soldiers to become drunks and druggies (destroying cohesion, reducing fighting effectiveness, they make bad decisions), fails to reprimand soldiers for atrocities and oh yeah, gives bad coordinates for artillery.
@thunderchaser2042
@thunderchaser2042 2 года назад
The "funny" part is that Mark Moses actually did get his butt chewed on by Dye during training for splitting up the "platoon" and having half of it on a hill and the other half down in a riverbed. So his inability to read a map wasn't too far off.
@kevinburton3948
@kevinburton3948 3 года назад
The Platoon's translator (Lerner) was played by a *very* young Johnny Depp.
@styles2980
@styles2980 3 года назад
Thank you for your movie reaction choices, you pick a lot of movies that I care about.
@TBRSchmitt
@TBRSchmitt 3 года назад
Thanks for supporting the channel!
@airmobiledivision7759
@airmobiledivision7759 3 года назад
The village scene, I believe, is based upon the My Lai Massacre. Look into it if you’re interested.
@ryanhampson673
@ryanhampson673 3 года назад
The Capt in the movie is Capt Dale Dye..He was an officer in Vietnam and has been the military advisor to almost every realistic war film since platoon.
@scotthewitt258
@scotthewitt258 2 года назад
The Captain who called in the airstrike is played by Dale Dye. He is an actual Viet Nam veteran and a very prolific military advisor in Hollywood, especially for Viet Nam films. He often appears in movies he consults on.
@rmcgavock1
@rmcgavock1 3 года назад
War movie recommendation, Paths of Glory - one of Kubrick's early films and one of his best. Keep up the good work!
@kevinbaconwasntinfootloose1742
@kevinbaconwasntinfootloose1742 3 года назад
Yes please no one on RU-vid has reacted to Paths of Glory.
@jimtatro6550
@jimtatro6550 3 года назад
I saw this movie theatrically 2 days before I shipped off to boot camp. Check out The Boys in Company C if you can, it’s a awesome underrated Vietnam movie similar in structure to Full Metal Jacket.
@glenwoodreid5910
@glenwoodreid5910 3 года назад
One of the drill instructors in the movie looks familiar.
@spddracer
@spddracer 3 года назад
Check out 'Cadence' if you haven't. Stars Charlie Sheen as well.
@theburgernoder2441
@theburgernoder2441 2 года назад
@@glenwoodreid5910 DI Loyce also played DI Hartman in full metal jacket
@renzero9206
@renzero9206 Год назад
The smile Elias gives Barnes isnt about finding an ally. It's more him saying after all I've been through, I knew it would be you who would kill me. That shot of Elias death is iconic.
@NoOne-sc1ox
@NoOne-sc1ox 3 года назад
Yes! 🙌 Thank you so much, and I appreciate the reaction. After a long hard week of working, and stressing. I finally get to watch my favorite youtubers react to a favorite movie of mine. You guys made my week. 🤩
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 3 года назад
Adagio for Strings is wonderfully beautiful yet haunting and really made an impact when I watched this film. Then to hear it again in the game Homeworld...
@stuff9680
@stuff9680 3 года назад
You should watch the movie "Hamburger Hill" it's based off real events during the Vietnam War and is considered one of the most realistic depictions of the war
@insaneconqueror5421
@insaneconqueror5421 3 года назад
I met a vet who fought there bought 20 years ago. He said it was indeed very accurate. Hardest fight of his 2 tours.
@dochemlock
@dochemlock 3 года назад
Hamburger Hill was definitely the most realistic movie ever about how it is to be a grunt.
@bottlerocket3218
@bottlerocket3218 3 года назад
Tom Berenger played the 'bad sergeant', Willem Dafoe played the 'good sergeant', both received Oscar nominations for their performances.
@cobykennedy
@cobykennedy 3 года назад
Don’t know if anybody mentioned it already but, at the end after he kills Barnes, Chris was about to kill himSELF with a grenade. He’s sitting there about to pull the pin when the commando reinforcements arrive on the swastika APC. Chris quickly drops the grenade to the side, maybe ‘cause there’s a light at the end of the tunnel for him now... but I’ve always thought it’s just because in the moment he didn’t want to take any innocent bystanders with him. It happens so quick that most people miss it. I only caught it 20 years later.
@white-dragon4424
@white-dragon4424 3 года назад
Although the film's a fictional story the village scene is based loosely on the Mỹ Lai massacre.
@NimpanZ
@NimpanZ 3 года назад
Tony Todd "candyman" in one of his earliest movie appearances.
@charlesderosas5577
@charlesderosas5577 3 года назад
And Johnny Depp lol
@mateskib
@mateskib 10 месяцев назад
so proud of this movie for showing the realities of war. its unreal what our soldiers went through in that conflict.
@redrum567
@redrum567 3 года назад
Speaking Father/Son in war movies, both Sheen's are in Hot Shots 2 for a brief cameo moment.
@garygregg4108
@garygregg4108 3 года назад
Howdy from north Texas once again! Another great reaction y’all! I’d like to throw in my vote for The Unforgiven with the great Clint Eastwood and the equally great Morgan Freeman and Gene Hackman... keep up the great work!!!
@TBRSchmitt
@TBRSchmitt 3 года назад
Thanks for the support and the recommendation!
@cassu6
@cassu6 3 года назад
Oh fuck I just saw that movie a few weeks ago! Fucking amazing!
@rayzrsharp
@rayzrsharp 2 года назад
Love Unforgiven!!!
@distinguishedflyer
@distinguishedflyer 3 года назад
My favorite Oliver Stone movie, and one of my favorite movies period. Stone served two tours in Vietnam and based the characters off people he knew; the inspirations for Barnes & Elias didn't serve together, and Stone was curious about what might have happened if they had, since they were such opposites. I'm particularly glad that Stone & Berenger didn't make Barnes into a purely evil villain, but allowed you to see how/why he does what he does; when Stone showed this film to some of his old Vietnam colleagues, he noted how many of them sided with Barnes rather than Elias or Taylor.
@Mr_Myers
@Mr_Myers 3 года назад
My grandpa was in the Vietnam war, he got blown up trying to carry a fallen brother lost a testicle, took shrapnel in his legs along with a gunshot wound that he already had. The explosion messed up his hands to the point where he can’t open them all the way. But happy to say that tough bastard is still alive an kickin til this day. Even with messed up hands he can still drive to, he even got him a Purple Heart marines license plate lol love that man.
@MrAitraining
@MrAitraining 3 года назад
I hope you try to watch "Midnight Run" with Charles Grodin and Robert Deniro. Such a funny and well done buddy movie. You guys will love it!
@TBRSchmitt
@TBRSchmitt 3 года назад
Thanks for the suggestion! We haven’t seen that but I’m sure we will love it!
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 3 года назад
TBR Schmitt I have to second the OP. I think that’s one you guys would enjoy.
@natskivna
@natskivna 3 года назад
Great suggestion!
@MrAitraining
@MrAitraining 3 года назад
@@natskivna "see ya in the next life Jack"
@natskivna
@natskivna 3 года назад
@@MrAitraining "You're gonna be suffering from fistophobia"....
@victorzuniga233
@victorzuniga233 3 года назад
This is the first of Oliver Stone’s Vietnam Trilogy. The next 2 are “Born on the Fourth of July” and “Heaven and Earth”
@chrism7395
@chrism7395 3 года назад
I've visited the Cu Chi Tunnels in Vietnam and, even though they've been widened for tourists, they're one of the most claustrophobic experiences I've had. I can't even start to imagine what it must've been like for the (mostly Australian) soldiers who had to clear them, knowing that enemies, booby traps and poisonous animals (snakes, centipedes) could be around any corner. For a really good documentary on the war as a whole, the Ken Burns documentary 'The Vietnam War' is excellent.
@kvaz7721
@kvaz7721 Месяц назад
Honestly impressed by how well you guys predicted what was about to happen, I’ve seen other reactions to platoon and no one saw anything coming, you two were really paying attention to the little details like the forest ambush
@thissailorja
@thissailorja 2 года назад
The average age for the combat soldier in WW2 was 26. In Vietnam it was 19.
@MovieGuy808
@MovieGuy808 3 года назад
This and Wallstreet (both by Oliver Stone) were the pinnacle of Charlie Sheen’s career IMO. But I liked the Hot Shots movies too. 😂
@conureron3792
@conureron3792 3 года назад
Major League - fun baseball movie, w/ Sheen. Tom Berenger redeems himself in that one too :-)
@TBRSchmitt
@TBRSchmitt 3 года назад
Never seen Wallstreet and have a few more movies to watch before all the jokes of Hot Shots will be fully appreciated lol!
@MovieGuy808
@MovieGuy808 3 года назад
@@conureron3792 Good call 👍
@MovieGuy808
@MovieGuy808 3 года назад
@@TBRSchmitt Yeah, maybe sometime down the line. Thanks for all the entertaining reactions!
@shackyman3644
@shackyman3644 3 года назад
Love "Hot Shots!" Watch it after "Top Gun."
@natskivna
@natskivna 3 года назад
Another suggestion on another Oliver Stone film... JFK starring Kevin Costner...the story of the only trial ever brought for the assasination of JFK. SOOOO many stars.... Gary Oldman, Tommy Lee Jones, Sissy Spacek, Joe Pesci, Kevin Bacon, John Candy, Walter Matthau, Jack Lemon, Ed Asner , Donald Sutherland and more. HIGHLY recommended.
@nightmaster5593
@nightmaster5593 3 года назад
accuracy aside, it has the absolute best editing I've ever seen, and the music and acting are incredible!
@speediepitstop1531
@speediepitstop1531 3 года назад
That movie is somebody's fairytale
@dorkmier
@dorkmier 3 года назад
Hi guys. I saw this in the theater when it came out. I had just joined the Navy the previous august. A very impactful movie. I'm glad I was to young for that war. My war was Desert Storm. I was in a cargo handling battalion 40 miles behind the line. As the one officer said in Full Metal Jacket, in the rear with the gear. Luckily all I had to worry about were scud missiles and terrorist attacks. Glad you both like the movie. Great reaction. Keep up the good work. Steve
@louielouie22
@louielouie22 3 года назад
These guys were the last of our brave souls who were drafted and not looking to be heroes. That to me is a true hero.
@b.ls.7276
@b.ls.7276 3 года назад
Great choice; great reactions!!! Love the discussion at the end of your videos. BTW, what you did with "The Pacific" series is AMAZING! I couldn't stop watching your videos back to back! TBR I'm your fan forever!!!!! "Peace" to you too :)
@blilianschmitt-realtor129
@blilianschmitt-realtor129 3 года назад
Agree :)
@blilianschmitt-realtor129
@blilianschmitt-realtor129 3 года назад
Agree :)
@SPEEDPAINTER1
@SPEEDPAINTER1 3 года назад
My father (rest his soul), a Vietnam veteran, said that he'd seen many Vietnam War movies---but this one----this one made the hairs in the back of his head stand up. The body bags at the airport, the midday hump thru the jungle on patrol. Some of this movie took him back there. Oliver Stone and his advisor Captain Dye really brought their horrific war experience to the screen.
@maintaint3003
@maintaint3003 3 года назад
I've listened to many interviews of vets made by Billings Gazette here on youtube, and some of the jobs those guys had were insane. I don't remember the name, but the "helicopter bait" guy was a stand-out. Just flying zig-zag over jungle, hoping for somebody to shoot at his chopper, then drop a smoke and a frag and get out before AF levels the place.
@SPEEDPAINTER1
@SPEEDPAINTER1 3 года назад
@@maintaint3003 Yup! That mission evolution was demonstrated in the John Wayne movie the Green Berets. The movie is piss poor at showing what the war was really like (more of a propaganda film), but helo bait was shown in that movie too. Those pilots had serious guts!
@GodOfWar221
@GodOfWar221 6 дней назад
The one thing I love about the first scene. The night ambush, is how expertly the NVA soldiers just blended into their surroundings. And then all at once, they just seem to appear from the jungle. They were expert jungle fighters. And i loved the way that scene was shot, just to showcase this.
@DarthMohammedRules
@DarthMohammedRules 3 года назад
OMG, I just watched your Full Metal Jacket vid yesterday, suggested Platoon (not on Patreon) as being right up there as one of the best war movies, and this was posted just a few hours later!! Nice!!
@Thepitz2000
@Thepitz2000 3 года назад
You guys should check out "To Live and Die in LA" To Live and Die in L.A. is a 1985 American neo-noir action thriller film directed by William Friedkin and based on the novel by former U.S. Secret Service agent Gerald Petievich, who co-wrote the screenplay with Friedkin. The film features William Petersen, Willem Dafoe and John Pankow among others. Wang Chung composed and performed the original music soundtrack. The film tells the story of the lengths to which two Secret Service agents go to arrest a counterfeiter.
@peterhz6
@peterhz6 3 года назад
And an amazing car chase scene.
@jediciah37
@jediciah37 3 года назад
You need to do the other great anti war movie The Killing Fields. It is not as well known but its better than platoon.
@kingfield99
@kingfield99 3 года назад
The Thin Red Line is an amazing war film too, very dreamlike and almost poetic.
@stsolomon618
@stsolomon618 3 года назад
What a bloody good movie.
@offspringfan1288
@offspringfan1288 3 года назад
Definitely need to check out Natural Born Killers also made by Oliver Stone!
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 3 года назад
A big part of O'Neill's reaction to getting Second Platoon was not only that he was gonna stay, but also *Barnes been wounded 7 times. The only thing that can kill Barnes, is Barnes* He just couldn't believe Barnes was gone.
@Britcarjunkie
@Britcarjunkie 3 года назад
Another Vietnam War film you need to see that's based on a true story, is BAT-21: it was also the most expensive rescue operation ever made. And yes, you MUST see "We Were Soldiers"! Another one based on a true story.
@robland6804
@robland6804 3 года назад
Now you gotta watch Oliver Stone's other Vietnam movie, Born on the Fourth of July -- one of Tom Cruise's very best performances, maybe THE best. Platoon is the Iliad (combat), Born on the Fourth of July is the Odyssey (homecoming). Must see.
@bdelectr7411
@bdelectr7411 3 года назад
I'd like to recommend "The Departed". Very suspenseful mob movie by Martin Scorsese.
@TBRSchmitt
@TBRSchmitt 3 года назад
Thanks for the recommendation!
@jasonhenry4022
@jasonhenry4022 3 года назад
Superb mobster movie. What a stellar cast Scorsesse managed to assemble in it too!
@danielfardella
@danielfardella Год назад
This was accurate in that half the guys were "peace-ers who smoked pot" and the other half were country dudes who drank beer. By '71 when I got drafted, I was a medic and did not go through what these guys did - but the personalities were very similar. That made this movie very realistic. Most guys knew this war was stupid. However, there were very brave men who never came home during that period and as in all wars there were heroes.
@kennethbryant5573
@kennethbryant5573 3 года назад
"Hamburger Hill" and "The Siege of Firbase Gloria" are other "realistic" depictions of the Vietnam war. And, "The Deer Hunter" which won the Oscar for best picture in 1978 is another must see.
@conureron3792
@conureron3792 3 года назад
Oh yes, The Deer Hunter had some intense life altering scenes.
@NoelleMar
@NoelleMar 3 года назад
Nice reaction and conversation that really got me thinking! These movies really complement each other. The dehumanization in full metal jacket and it’s results, show in that, Apocalypse Now, and Platoon. While symbolic, this has the most realistic portrayal of war in Vietnam from an Americans perspective, and it’s completely chaotic. Which hopefully helps illuminate Apocalypse now’s portrayal as almost a phantasmagoria, full of destructive characters. I assume Kurtz would approve of Barnes, though I’m not sure what he’d think of his love for the “machine.” But he decided that one couldn’t win the war with one hand tied behind ones back. He admired cold-blooded decision making and murder to “get the job done.” Barnes was ruthless, but he had the fighting prowess to back up his ego. He probably would have lived after everything if he hadn’t been executed. Obviously, Dafoe’s character was also a super soldier, and he *didn’t* lose his humanity.
@NoelleMar
@NoelleMar 3 года назад
I also think about Red’s extreme cowardice. He really thought that sucking up to the person he saw as the strongest would protect him. But Barnes didn’t make exceptions, which he should have known if he wasn’t so focused on his own self-preservation. His other superiors (above Barnes etc.) and enemies certainly didn’t care about him.
@art2736
@art2736 3 года назад
Loosely based on Oliver Stone's Vietnam experience. This was one of the first Vietnam flicks that wasn't patriotic propaganda.
@markhamstra1083
@markhamstra1083 3 года назад
Oh, come on! Sure, there were a couple of Sylvester Stallone and Chuck Norris movies before this that were Vietnam exploitation, as well as The Green Berets propaganda film, but the biggest Vietnam films before Platoon, Apocalypse Now and The Deer Hunter, were not patriotic propaganda.
@juvandy
@juvandy 3 года назад
@@markhamstra1083 sort of. Apocalypse Now isn't really a Vietnam movie. It's Joseph Konrad's Heart of Darkness set in Vietnam and the story is total fiction, 100%. The Deer Hunter I agree is not propaganda, but it still presents the Americans sympathetically as 'good guys in a bad situation'. Up until Platoon and Full Metal Jacket no American war movie had ever been willing to present an American as the bad guy. Platoon crossed that line in multiple ways that even now few movies do- the child rape scene in particular. It's one thing to kill unarmed civilians- this happens all the time in war, usually by accident but still often intentionally (bombing especially). You can be a 'good guy in a bad place' and still kill civilians by accident in war and see that viewed as the lesser of some evils. Even when the captain sends orders to torch the village, that can be explained on a strategic or tactical level as negating resources to the enemy- it's certainly not 'good'... but it can be justified at some level (though many would still consider it a war crime). Raping children, as first depicted in Platoon.... that's something else entirely. That is an unambiguously criminal, evil, wrong thing to do.
@art2736
@art2736 3 года назад
@@markhamstra1083 I did say "one of"/ The other two explored concepts like psychological trauma and were set in a war but wasn't really about the average grunt's experience. Platoon was the first to do this in a traditional war setting.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 3 года назад
A rather early one was "Go Tell The Spartans (1978)" starring Burt Lancaster
@markhamstra1083
@markhamstra1083 3 года назад
@@Kasino80 It was Vietnam exploitation, warping and exaggerating the experience of Vietnam vets on coming home to turn Stallone into a comic-book hero who was denied the recognition, respect and more that he deserved. That was a "patriotic" effort to counter the perception that Americans in the Vietnam War could be bad guys like William Calley.
@arp3259
@arp3259 3 года назад
Good review guys. You just witnessed in my opinion the best war movie of them all. I still can’t ever forget the first time I saw that village scene. Always ended up staying with me
@HorrorBr1nger
@HorrorBr1nger 3 года назад
"Come and See" - is a great movie that should be watched!! This movie you will most likely remember for the rest of your life, but you'll NEVER want to watch it again
@Tommy1977777
@Tommy1977777 2 года назад
"Why do they call them grunts? because a grunt can take it. a grunt can take anything." this line resonated with me since i was a grunt for 10 years.
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