Please dont ban me Jagex, just fix this bug 

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On one hand, this needs to be patched asap. On the other hand, seeing dudes at the ge getting specced out from fucking Morytania is pretty funny.

next Framed should start AHKing so jagex starts actually banning ahkers

Much respect for how you handle these things. Reporting it months ago, giving them time to fix it on their own, and now making this video somewhat forces jagex to take action.

"You don't want to fix it right now? Too bad. I've made the decision that you're going to fix this right now." alright framed, damn

The thing i really apreciate is that you aknowledge that this is just broken and alongside SHOWING whats happening, you go on to find people you kill and give theyr stuff back.

Yeah, absolutely broken and needs to be fixed. Hope this video brings more awareness.

5:48 “With a crushing blow you finish…..” 😂

As an admitted deathmatcher I have seen this for over a year. The true issue behind this isn’t necessarily the stall (which is still annoying), but the stall being coupled with AHKing

Lmao that one guy who instantly attacked you back was sus af. He was already double mauling you before your character even appeared in range for him to click.

These stall have been around for much longer and rushers use them against DMers. For example there is an event item, antlers of some kind, that has a whole animation which involves snow being dropped on the ground. You will see many different stalls being used on high risk pvp worlds.

giving people their stuff back is so wholesome lowkey great content, love to see it

Wow, I remember people doing this back in the day with plank make to AGS or claw you from miles away.

i remember when you use to lure kev,you almost got me once since then iv'been a fan still love what you're doin keep on rollin kev!

That's so unbelievably broken it's embarrassing.

Good job!!! Not only entertaining but your taking one for the team. Everyone except the people reaping are sick of this crap n dont even wanna pk till its patched. Cheers for being a speaker to say what the community wants to say. The amount of bils people have lost or gained let alone anger n frustration has justified this video being made i reckon. Cheers bloke, love ya work 🤙

Ironic that the last person was named "tf u gona do".

Long story short going through some shit today, you made it better

I dont have access to the source code, but the ring of stone usage makes me think that theres some entangled web of spaghetti that makes this a non trivial fix. Like I'm assuming this is related to skipping the sarachnis stun mechanic (not directly). If I were to guess, theres probably a ton of instances where the game can be absolutely broken by the ring of stone (or egg just watch Rendi's defence pure) and finding all of them is taking a fat minute. Not stanning for Jamflex just might be why they're staying quiet hoping this just stays small.

tried a few times and it seems to be fixed in this weeks game update, gg framed :D

I've been experiencing this in pvp worlds where i'm getting d claw specced by a dude not even there lol…. Now im the guy!

Jagex just needs to make all emotes cancellable, where if you move your character during an animation it just completely cancels the animation. This would fix the problem of people being baited to use an emote and subsequently being totally defenseless, as well as crazy ass animation stalls like this. We already have the hunter's crossbow if you want to be a nuisance, this is too much though. It shouldn't be bannable honestly. Jagex just needs to dedicate more to fixing the real issues within PVP.

This is not just a problem for PvP but also used by scammers. Sir Pugger has mentioned it before in a video, where lurers/scammers to trade a person. Once accepting the trade your character gets pushed out of the safe zone. Think he reported it back then as well

Jagex need to do a hard fix on all animation stalls longer than 4 ticks, active or inactive. Veng and crossbows are fun, they're short. But long emotes are undeniably ruining the fun, so why are they in the game? When emote entered, if time greater than 4 ticks and action performed, exit emote. Fix the spaghetti code. Then make one and only one really obvious inactive animation stall that lasts several more ticks, for the cheese snowflake accounts.

Damn Framed out here making ultimatums to Jagex.. crazy lmao good job framed

Jagex doesn’t care.

People did this way back when the Gmaul first came out and you could glitch it to have 3 specs... Dance next to wilderness, walk in, use all 3 specs, and opponent would die before your character even showed up next to them.

This is an OG trick. Remember you could use the dance emote and it would stall and u could maul rush someone? Also I abused the crap out of this back in the day at the duel arena with obby rings. I prolly made about 600ish mill. Got a blue phat before they patched it. I think it was 07 or 08.

Just a heads up this works with the Reindeer hat too. You morph and unmorph and then do prance. Can travel up to 14 tiles before the animation ends.

Wtffff @framed thank you so much for showing this bro, THIS IS HOW I DIED IN LUMMY!!! I have been wondering for a couple weeks how I did not see the guy and after that death I kept triple checking corners and behind doors and under npcs incase someone was in there. I got tbed and the guy appeared out of nowhere and specced me. Scumbag was bug abusing, jagex owes me 11m.

This isn't just a problem for PvP. Animation Stalls like this are used countless times in Lures. Literal Billions of Gold can get stolen from players because someone uses these to auto-move their victims to Dangerous Spots.

I love how animation stalling has always been this fun thing that looks silly when you do it properly, and now it's become...this...wtf Jamflex

These "animation stalls" are so common used in luring its crazy. It's not even down to the player half of the time, its bug abuse from the lurer. Jagex seriously needs to address this, different animation stalls have always been in the game. Props to framed for showing the problem

I know that fixing shit like this is really complex, but they could probably just make every animation an inactive stall, no idea why there are certain animations you can move under in the first place.

Typical jagex completely ignoring game breaking issues, maybe they are too busy with all the bot busting that they do. Oh wait they don’t do anything about that either.

7:20 bro should've signed up for defence against the dark stalls

Oh man, that is nuts. I am out of practice, but I use to PK back in pre EOC and early OSRS days. This is an absolutely problem, thanks for sharing and trying to help the PVP community dude! Have not seen any animation stalls this bad before holy crap. Also are you excited for the Paper Mario TTYD remake? Can't wait its almost here!

thanks for getting this patched finally. i reported it several times over a year ago and it was never fixed.

Clienters and AHKERS are more Important than someone rushing someone using an animation stall that don't know how to change prayers or teleport when there being rushed in 2024 💀

glad you're calling out the line that needs to be drawn. the pvp scene has been rife with loopholes that jagex has gone "yeah that seems fine" and many of them ARE. But this. You lose control of the fight. It's taking advantage of an interaction that should have nothing to do with PVP in the first place.

Classic Jagex, just use the Rendi line, it's not "bug abuse" which is bannable, it is a "manip" which is a legal grey area lol.

Only took someone with 500k subs to get this fixed, pretty sad since it's been reported as an issue for ages, but its been in the game since the start. Veng was one of the first ones.

This is exactly how Google deals with companies that have bugs that need fixing. If they don’t fix them within I think 90 days then they publish them.

Wow this definetly needs to get fixed!

You can see this particular thing when doing Cave horrors task. Seems like you're standing in one spot, but if you have true tile on, you are just moving as you normally would. Didn't know you can abuse it tough :D

This has likely been in the game since OSRS launched, considering you can do the exact same thing with the reindeer antlers. It's not as long of a stall, but it's still about 7 ticks, and I'm sure other items/emotes work even better.

Rendi did something similar and got attacked heavily by Jagex. Hope HCs are aware of this, you could easily stall and sneak passed scouts for wildly bosses.

It's been in the game for years the same thing works with ring of stone and reindeer hat prance emote

This video is a perfect example of why you’re one of the best (in my opinion) content creators for this game. Way to use the bug to your advantage to show how unfair it can be. “There was no skullball this time so, I guess you win” 😂 killed me.

If you throw a snowball at them, it cancels their stall

This has been a thing since I was playing RuneScape in 2003. Should not be banable I can’t believe people are even complaining this has always been a thing

9:00 the sound my TV makes when it’s been on for too long

It never ceases to amaze me how people will find another way to get a game breaking advantage in PvP instead of just learning to PK. I remember when PolyPore staves and Storm of Armadyl seemed game breaking pre-eoc. Original whip spec, anyone? Now we have bots AHKing, and specing you out from different game chunks whike getting multi combat buffs in single combat. 😂 The effort people put in to kill players but not put the effort in to PKing is amazing.

All the new lurers are using animation stalls so when you trade them in a bank, you're actually trading someone who has moved out into a danger area

Animation stalls should be completely removed from the game. It's some bs shit that was never intentional in the first place. Jagex has the tech to easily decouple actions from animations. They can still do animation locks so that you can't hide actions you do, but stalls should definitely be removed completely.

This type of stuff has been around forever. I still remember mixing dyes in pre eoc to dclaw rush people with the stall.

Animation stalling has been in the game in various forms since the start and they did fix the old dclaw spec stall iirc, but that was years after it was in the game...

“I kinda created a problem and then solved it, you’re welcome” you sound like Apple’s marketing team

If people dropped items to lure you into wilderness you could just pick them up and tele without them seeing you

Crate ring from Easter event unfreezes at moon bosses and vorakth

Time to bug abuse. Thanks jagex

I want to say I tried to get back into runescape around 2 years ago and at that time I tried to pk and immediately lost my total cash stack due to this bug. I was actually in lummy chest in basement getting my cash out after dying to go to GE to buy back equipment and I got immediately speced out, I quit at that moment and only got back into it with an ironman years later. This bug has been around awhile and jagex is a disappointment for not fixing it.

Is it also possible to do this to escape pkers in the wildy? I can imagine its really hard to catch up once they just disappear after freezes wear off.

They have been doing this for damn near a year now. They make 10k+ a month if they do this properly in the high risk world killing deathmatches. I strongly believe that jagex leaves it in the game so it deters people from gambling.

This is fucking hilarious but how this isn’t been patched is even more hilarious

Definitely dont need your company banning players for aggressively showing you things that basically need hot fixed... I mean the lack of awareness that would be required would have to be pretty substantial

Rendi made a video on animation stalls years ago. He was stacking the animations aswell. Granted he used a different method.

I remember doing a clue step and getting specced out instantly with no one in sight. Thought it was an invis player hacking.

Ngl this is messed up that it isn’t fixed, but it was one of my favorite OSRS videos in a while

I use to death match and I’d always watch those sneaky people rush people doing the still method, it got to the point where they got rag bots on me to stop them. Jagex really needs to fix it. They make billons everyday doing it. Even got me for a 130m before

Love that you sent the video. Sometimes devs do better with visuals

It's sad they won't fix stuff until content creators release videos on it. I'm sure it'll be fixed soon now.

That’s absolutely insane. I’m guessing it works when going through different rooms like when you originally got pked. With pking being a mix of reaction time and prediction it’s jarring to not be able to trust your eyes. Hope this gets patched

I hope they fix this stall, but keep stuff like the hunters crossbow. Hunters crossbow stall feels more skill based, kind of, whereas this is just busted.

The guy in your original clip doing the casual 6 way manual cast firewave to 6-way melee swap with the animation stalls to boot is possibly the most blatant cheater I've ever seen. I'd sooner believe a guy with 16000 Leviathan KC and no other boss kills was legit than that guy. On the real though, this needs to be patched ASAP. I've seen people doing this for a long time doing lures from GE to the wildy by dropping low value items all the way to the wildy ditch and tb-fire way into dclaws from off the screen. You just see a random skull over the ground. It's funny when you see it from an outside perspective, but if it happened to me I'd be absolutely furious. Especially if I was trying find some actually fights for fun.

I don't buy for a second that kevin wasn't abusing the living shit out of this on alt accounts that we don't know about.

“Jagex please fix this problem” Also “Hey everyone, here’s how you do it”

Worked with the easter egg ring... says my sources.

I was wondering what animation stall this was. I stay over anglered and respond to game sounds so they never killed me but i never even ever see who did it

Void waker marked the death of pvp.

Another instance of Jagex's amazing customer support.

I'm sure it's not easy to fix as making all player animations into forced animations. I'm betting there's something screwing it up in their spaghetti of a code.

How is this still in the game? I remember doing this back in like the mid 2000's. Not this exactly and using it in PVP, but these glitches have been around since the first items that transformed you.

the GOAT is back

You could've used the true tile indicator plugin to show a better example of how the glitch works.

This broke pvp world pking entirely for me. I can't believe it's gone on this long tbh

2 minute long ad in a 10 minute video one of the creators of all time

Great video exposing the pvp problem

That guy you couldnt give the loot to was me, I promise. Also I changed my username and appearance.

It's been going on for years sadly, every time they come out with event/holiday stuff a new glitch is born...

This is why I didn't even bother playing... If they patch it, there will be some other bs next week. It's all just exploiting glitches and RWT now

Music was so good on this video btw

Now I know how I died in the revs caves without seeing anyone 😂 That player wasn’t nice enough to give back loot though lol

Remember back In the day they hand cannon spec stall l0l

Excellent case, hope Jamflex follows up. Worst case everyone that views this video is at least now aware of how it works even if you really can’t avoid that

its obviously a problem. being able to stall with an animation so much where your opponent cannot even see where they're getting attacked from and can die in a fraction of a second.

Content everywhere else in OSRS: works pretty well, decently consistent no major problems:) Content for pvp: infuriating and borderline broken, constant bugs. Just kinda bad

You can also do this with calquat gourd drinks

I honestly think jagex should remove animation stalls altogether I think the only reason they are in the game to begin with is because of certain animations that might look weird when walking like the dragonfire shield block but then they also have stalls on stuff like the trident for no apparent reason Emotes should also just be cancellable like most other actions Stalling just makes the game look inconsistent and weird and removing it wouldnt really change anything mechanically other than making it look consistent

the sad thing is... genuine players have lost hundreds of mills/bills to this glitch/scam/bug abuse, but will jagex return their money, nope... just a "sorry you died, we fixed it now"