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PM-25MV Milling Machine CNC Conversion: Part 1 

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A design overview for the PM-25MV CNC Conversion.

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@hoochhenry
@hoochhenry 6 лет назад
Do you sell the cad drawings for the conversion parts
@buildmotion1426
@buildmotion1426 6 лет назад
Great vid! Is this cad file available for purchase?
@jasonanderson927
@jasonanderson927 7 лет назад
Looks good! Still waiting on my mill to arrive...next couple of weeks (fingers crossed). Any chance the CAD models for the base mill will be available? I was planning to reverse engineer mine once it showed up but would be interested in purchasing your models. Would save me some time and give me something to mess around with while I wait.
@urgamecshk
@urgamecshk 6 лет назад
Jason Anderson myhub.autodesk360.com/ue29b5448/g/shares/SHabee1QT1a327cf2b7ad8570be8f14f9c32?viewState=NoIgbgDAdAjCA0IDeAdEAXAngBwKZoC40ARXAZwEsBzAOzXjQEMyzd1C0A2AEwE4IArANwBjALSdeAFgBGYqbgDMnMY14AOAExj1ixupHrGAdlwAzMzLQBfBDFicYvRVOeKBzzcanxO6qOoQnIKavGHhYfDQEDEwMa4RYeoCEFICnFFQMRBO3olJ3hDuvv6BwQKh%2BbzwMCUBQSFV1dGx8VXJqemZ2bkJieqFxaXqMMbqUrmxmhW4YjAZIAD2CC05bfkdaRmrve2DAvDDo%2BOTOdOas-NRNdcQN3cgCI%2BIxpwIwAC6H0A
@robertamaty7453
@robertamaty7453 6 лет назад
You are amazing Franco ! File that system !
@keithlane4343
@keithlane4343 5 лет назад
Very well thought out. Can't imagine how long it took to reverse engineer this machine, then turn that info into a CAD model. The smaller ball screw on the "X" sounds like it'll work, as it's just moving the table since the ways are actually supporting the table. Will be interesting to see how it holds up over time.
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 5 лет назад
Yes, my OCD really kicked in on this project! So far, the 12mm ball screws have been working great. No problems at all.
@makosharkcnc7730
@makosharkcnc7730 5 лет назад
Mr. Franco i have a pm25mv too you have prints on the cnc conversion?
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 5 лет назад
Hi. Look at the description of this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_vhGMaPFhkM.html
@michaelbrocato7535
@michaelbrocato7535 3 года назад
Franco what type of limit switches do you use ?
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 3 года назад
Something that looks like these: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MOhudoeWlBc.html
@p.balaganeshdurai9125
@p.balaganeshdurai9125 5 лет назад
Great sir. I have a doubt. How much position accuracy does this machine design gives. How you are controlling backlash in x and y axis screen rods. Whether dove tail guides gives much accurate positioning than linear guide rails. Please answer
@Energi2DmaxX
@Energi2DmaxX 7 лет назад
Have you looked into Teknic Clearpath Servos? Everyone that uses them say the would never go back to steppers again.
@EZ_shop
@EZ_shop 7 лет назад
Beautiful work Franco. Can't wait to see it running.
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 7 лет назад
Thanks. I'm looking forward to making all the parts.
@jryer1
@jryer1 4 года назад
Thoroughly convinced the CNCMasters's - CNC BARON MILLING MACHINE is a better way to go. It already has everything you mention here and I bet by the time you're done you'd spend the same or less on their mill.
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 4 года назад
Their stuff looks nice but you don't get a true Z axis. They are only automating the quill.
@jryer1
@jryer1 4 года назад
@@FrancoCNC True, and I'm assuming your concern would be rigidity during operations, especially if the quill were largely extended? My only response is their reviews have been stellar. Also did you see their CNC SUPRA MILL? It's a full scale CNC knee mill for $11k, and they have customers that have been running it over 8 years, no issues. I've got to believe for that money and customer reviews, their credibility looks pretty legit.
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 4 года назад
@@jryer1 for the price, that is hard to beat.
@55418und
@55418und 5 лет назад
Is this a good machine to build on? I mean from the manufacturer in China. I need a good desktop mill that can be retrofired to CNC.
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 5 лет назад
Hi Ronnie. If you can live with a very small machine, check out Sherline. Their stuff is small but it is of very good quality. You can buy a CNC package ready to run out of the box. If you need something larger, then the PM25MV of the PM30MV are (IMO) the way to go. Of all the importers of inexpensive Chinese (and Taiwanese) machines, Precision Matthews is the best. They will give you the best version of these machines.
@makosharkcnc7730
@makosharkcnc7730 5 лет назад
Franco what size of steppers are you using? nema 23's and nema 34 for z?
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 5 лет назад
You are correct. Truth be told, I think I could have used the closed loop NEMA 23 for the Z axis, as well. They are very powerful.
@robertroy6094
@robertroy6094 7 лет назад
Hi Franco,I have a PM25 mv also. Base machine is great, and I like what you are doing. I am awaiting arrival of clearpath servos. I have 16mm lead screws, and I think larger is better. I've been chasing .004" backlash for too long now. I am thinking it is either leadscrew flex or ac bearings or a combo of both. I have double ball screw nuts on all axes, they are a challenge to fit. So I am going to source tapered roller bearings for lead screw anchoring and 20mm roller leads, maybe your cartridge apprroach is worth looking at. Thanks for posting. Rob
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 7 лет назад
Hi Rob - I'm glad you like the video. Eventually, I'll know for sure how well the Ø12mm ball screws work with the cartridges. Stay tuned!
@toolanddie9789
@toolanddie9789 6 лет назад
Do you have the part numbers for the ballscrews and where you got them from?
@mikecanada149
@mikecanada149 4 года назад
Repeat question from below.. do you sell the cad drawings or the Fusion file?
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 4 года назад
Check this out and look for a link in the description: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FR6Na9ZWmLs.html Free for you to use!
@aquaticadventures5088
@aquaticadventures5088 6 лет назад
How much do you want to convert mine for me? Haha
@JohnSmith-iz8wg
@JohnSmith-iz8wg 7 лет назад
Awesome !! the PM website says the 25s are sold out, they have 30s on the shelf tho. I have dreams of a PM-30MV with Clearpath servos and GRBL.
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 7 лет назад
That would be a nice setup.
@OCD_FPV
@OCD_FPV 4 года назад
Are the fusion360 files available for purchase?
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 4 года назад
The files are free: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FR6Na9ZWmLs.html
@EitriBrokkr
@EitriBrokkr 7 лет назад
awesome stuff. just my thoughts, putting two limit switches per axis, with closed loop steppers, and mach 4 is kind of a waste. all you really need is a referance switch, and then set up your software stops.
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 7 лет назад
Hi Eitri - good point. I go back and forth on that one. I agree, soft limits work great. However, there have been those times where I "accidentally" turn them off and over travel my machine. On this design, it's not that much more work to have two switches for X and Y axis, so I'll probably just keep them in there. However, on my lathe, I only use one per axis as that is more practical. Thanks for your comment. Keep them coming!
@EitriBrokkr
@EitriBrokkr 7 лет назад
Your right, I wish mach 4 would default with them "on" instead of "off" and you always have to rememper to turn them on
@stephenw6244
@stephenw6244 7 лет назад
Franco, Extremely well done presentation sir. Once again keep up the good work. I do have one question for you. Have you considered the Y-axis travel for your mill? If so, what is your expected result? Personally, I was expecting to keep 6 inches on Y-axis but as it turns out I have made a calculation error and my current Y travel is 3.5 inch. I was considering turning my ball screw nut 180 degrees opposite of your diagram. Also I did grind a slot for extended range. If you have the time, I would like to have your opinion on the matter. Thank you for your time. Keep the videos coming, I am anxious to your mill in action.
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 7 лет назад
Hello. Thank you for your comments. According to my solid model, I should have 6.85" of Y-axis travel without the need to modify the machine. I'm working hard to get this thing finished. I'll be sure to post videos when it is up and running.
@stephenw6244
@stephenw6244 7 лет назад
Franco I am certainly interested in regaining this lost travel, if you have suggestions I would welcome them. what length for your ballscrew y axis. if you do not mind sharing.
@makosharkcnc7730
@makosharkcnc7730 5 лет назад
what size of stepper are you running?
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 5 лет назад
Check this out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j9EpLjhIOVQ.html
@leeknivek
@leeknivek 7 лет назад
you could run plastic lines for the grease fittings too for a central greasing area, similar to your central oiling system
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 7 лет назад
Good point. That may happen. Thanks.
@tat2joeelliott
@tat2joeelliott 6 лет назад
Hey Franco can you share where you got the ball screws and lengths? I would like to be prepared to rip apart with all my parts ready to go back in. By the way great job
@urgamecshk
@urgamecshk 6 лет назад
tat2joeelliott bst automation or automation overstock
@tat2joeelliott
@tat2joeelliott 6 лет назад
Julius Jahn I know WHERE to get ballscrews I wanted to know the lengths. But it’s already taken care of
@NateUE
@NateUE 7 лет назад
Awesome work Franco! I don't suppose you'd make your base model available for download would you? I know lots of people would greatly appreciate your hard work.
@bradfrancola8485
@bradfrancola8485 7 лет назад
Hi. I'm not ready to let them go just yet - but maybe some day.
@NateUE
@NateUE 7 лет назад
:( Thanks for the reply. Great work anyway.
@Ballba365
@Ballba365 7 лет назад
Great video Franco, it was great to hear some of the reasoning behind the modifications. Are you concerned about the reduced Torque resulting from the spindle modifications?
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 7 лет назад
Hi. I'm not worried about reducing torque. I've done a similar modification on the G0704 and I've never had a problem. The G0704 has a hi-low gear box so it's easier to drop into low range for drilling on that machine, but I don't think it will be too hard to move the belt on the PM-25MV. Thanks.
@Ballba365
@Ballba365 7 лет назад
Good to hear, I look forward to your future videos on the build. Cheers, Matt.
@DCT_Aaron_Engineering
@DCT_Aaron_Engineering 7 лет назад
Awesome work Franco 👍
@FrancoCNC
@FrancoCNC 7 лет назад
Thanks. I wish I had more free time so I could get this finished sooner! How do you like that new Skyfire milling machine? I'm really curious to see how that compares to a Tormach.
@urgamecshk
@urgamecshk 6 лет назад
File available?
@urgamecshk
@urgamecshk 6 лет назад
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@projectgt3rss
@projectgt3rss 6 лет назад
you're everywhere! ;)
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