Pocket 4k vs Ursa Mini 4.6k 

RU-vid compression really hates shadows.

This is a 100,000+ subscriber quality level of channel. At this point he only has 4200, but if he keeps putting out quality content he will grow really well.

The external T5 is cheaper than cfast and hasn’t given me any problems so far. I watched probably every viltrox vs metabones comparison video on RU-vid and found that the differences in edge image sharpness is easily overcome by shooting no wider than 2.2 or so. There is a tad bit of play in the mount but it doesn’t affect the image or focusing. The smallrig cage is nice and not that expensive. There are also other cheaper battery options available other than going full Vmount such as external sony battery adapters that will get you more run time that the Lp’s. I think as creators, once we let go of the term “professional”, it’s frees us up to get down to what really matters because most of the people who watch our content are not professionals. Each operator will end up building out the p4k to fit how he or she is comfortable operating it anyway. I wouldn’t say you “need” all of the expensive accessories but if you want to spend the money on it, it’s fine. I chose not too at this time and I’m happy with my decision to save a few bucks.

"u remind me of a gig take took from me"... man that line is genius, given the context of the original line haha

Also not to blow smoked dude... but you have the very best RU-vid lighting setup I’ve ever seen hahah it’s beautiful man.

"So I put my wife in a corner and lit her..."

In my comparison versus these two and the RED I found the pocket to do a damn good job.. excited to see the UMP g2 compete

Another great video! I own both cameras as well. I love the form factor of the P4K, but that 15stops of DR on the 4.6k is amazing... and while the 4.6k is my favorite I think both cameras complement each other quiet well as shown in your example. Anyway, thank you for the great content, keep it going. Happy to be one of your earlier subscribers as your channel inevitably skyrockets with new subscribers.

Definitely the best overview and practical advice for these camera's. I totally agree with you about the 4.6k being a winner and the pocket 4k being a close second. While the big draw card for the pocket is good low light and price, the 4.6k form factor wins every day of the week for me. I film live MMA with my 4.6k and I have not had any issues in low light with this or handling because of the viewfinder and shoulder mount. This camera sits on my shoulder for the whole program and kicks ass. Best camera I've ever had.

The aesthetics of your talking shot is seriously out of this world.

The chair creaking at 1:02 really sells the drama of this scene!

This is high quality stuff dude, like the kinda quality someone with 200k plus subscribers puts on youtube

I love your videos man. Comparing cameras in dynamic recreations like this sets you apart from many other RU-vidr's. Keep it up !

The amount of knowledge I’ve gain from your videos is outrageous. Thanks again for the incredible videos!

Here I am again watching comperations of cameras i don't have and probably never will instead of editing my staff. Nice video tho. Keep it up

Dude your content is so fucking good. This actually looks like the films you’re replicating. Keep it up.

Great demonstration! The PCC4K seems markedly more sharp.

Ursa is more 'deep' and has far better highlights. The bang for the buck of the pocket is insane though.

A month ago I did exectly that and went with the Ursa 4.6k after my order of the pocket was delayed for the 3rd time (ordered it in october last year) Didn't regret it so far even though my tools e.g. dslr-sized gimbal and tripod won't work anymore for obvious reasons. This needs to be considered in your calculation and it adds up to a lot more than 1000 Dollars. Nice vid bro

You can actually get the Pocket 4K in two weeks like I did. I did not pre-order from the big store (well, I did but cancelled after I received it from another store sooner) and mine arrived in less than two weeks. Order from FullCompass instead of the big store. You can call to see how many are before you. They ship 10 a week on average. I was behind about 30 other customers in the wait list, but my arrived in 12 days. Would have arrived sooner if I had not chosen UPS Ground.

for people that don't want vmount batteries, you can also just use the sony NP batteries

It's kinda implied that one will be buying vlocks and cfast/ssd anyway as no serious filmmaker is looking at these added purchases and letting it change their mind. The only real bummer is the wait time to actually get the tech. Like the video a lot, subbed :)

Nice! This is my fave of the videos you’ve done so far. I’m about to shoot my first feature on the new G2 and we’re gonna do some tests this weekend to see if we’ll be able to use my BMPCC4K as B cam. After watching that table scene, it’s looking more promising.

The lens turbo II held up very well optically in my test vs the metabones ultra. Both were optically the same. The only issue I had with the lens turbo II is that the aperture ring was too short (I use Nikon F mount), and that the lens turbo didn't work with my Sigma 30mm 1.4 (not art) lens. I did not test CA, lens flare, or contrast and saturation. The lens turbo II is only $150 and I would highly recommend it for fully manual lenses or if you want a cheap speedbooster for other lenses that you want to add. Im about to try my nikon lenses on my sony a6300. We'll see..

Will you do a video on your color grading workflow?

Great video! Love your channel. I love you point about the fact that the BMPCC4K is basically impossible to get at the moment. I think it's unfair to compare these cameras without talking about what they will be used for. Interviews are completely controlled so the extra stops won't do you much good in most interview situations. I honestly just want a beast of a b-roll camera and I think this is wherethe BMPCC4K KILLS EVERYTHING else out there. Toss this on a ronin S and the images you can make with BRAW will just shred anything else you can put on a single handle gimbal. That's what I want it for. The URSA's are amazing for the money but I don't see myself putting it on a gimbal anytime soon. I'll stick to my gh5 and gh4 for my interviews for now as I'm mostly a still shooter and shoot Sony for those occasions.

gawd i love your videos so freakin' much. so amped to get my hands on a BMPCC4K.

Big fan of your videos! Very informative, beautiful to watch and entertaining. Great stuff!

"Why So Soft" -in my "Joker heath ledger voice"

Why the FUCK doesn’t this channel have more subs? Your videos have been the best for showing off what these cameras can do.

I think the bmcpc 4k gives more than enough for what I need, 12 bit raw will be a gigantic jump from what I can achieve with my a7iii (which I will keep for events and photography)

Hey man, your content is truly inspiring. I’ve just recently found your Channel and with each new video you produce you really just step it up more and more. Keep creating stuff man. Your content is amazing man. Thank you for all this man. The lighting set up in the beginning was incredible!

I almost only shoot the pocket 4K at 1000iso for retaining highlight detail. With that bright back lite scene that definitely would have helped. Great video. Cheers bud!

Awesome video Spenser! I recently bought my Pocket4K and seriously impressed by it. Good to see what it's like next to an Ursa. They match beautifully! I can see a lot of DP's using the Pocket4K for a B-Roll cam while using the Ursa as their main cam.

Take this as a compliment, I wanted to say you're too good to put out something like this 6:09 😁

Good points. And with the Gen2 of the Ursa Mini 4.6k Pro coming out soon, prices for previous models will drop even more. The Pocket 4k definitely has its place though, with it's compact size, mounting it to a dashboard, inside a refrigerator, etc. or just getting B-Roll without permits ("No really, I'm just taking photos for Instagram."). The most impressive thing about the Pocket 4k, and the thing no one is talking about, is it has universal hardware, which allowed Blackmagic RAW to updated with just a firmware update instead of with a new camera, and will allow future major updates. No other camera has this, except the upcoming Ursa Gen2.

Your colors are unreal, can you do a series on how you grade your footage?

Your color correction game is on point! I pre-ordered the URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2! Really looking forward to see the image quality! But going to an URSA from a Sony A7RIII, chances are that I'll be blown away!

Lighting game super strong. I have the pocket 4k, just dropped a ton on the rig and lighting - have some apertures coming in this week, set up Gimble - have three MFT lenses, and this video convinced me to get the metabones in a week. It’s probably a better move to move over to Metabones rather than get a Voigtlander, right? Because the future lenses I should buy need to be EF. How drastic of a difference in quality does the metabones bring? I think I spoke to you on reddit briefly and then found your channel, blown away. Can’t wait to see you thrive.

i like the skin tones better on the pocket

Using LP-E6 batteries on the BMPCC 4k cuts down the size exponentially. Keeping its small form factor, you can do a lot of really cool stuff you wouldn't normally be able to do with a larger profile cam, like the Ursa 4.6k. I do love the extra 2 stops of dynamic range though. I definitely want to get my hands on one of them! (BTW, I got my pocket in 2 months. Ordered in October, got it in December. It absolutely is a professional camera)

A comparison in non-controlled surroundings would be quite interesting

Keep these Pocket 4K videos coming!

you shoot with the pocket on white wall and wide lens and you use different lens that is more flattering and nicer texture behind with the ump - your older test was better - still you are amazing i love what you do and appreciate that a lot

Hands down best camera comparison video. More than the usual spec-sheet readouts. :)

You should really get more subscribers. I can't find any other youtuber that does the same thing as you do. Great work!

Great compersion man, i was searching on these cameras to decide what to buy and now I'm pretty sure I'll go with Ursa Mini, thanks again for this great video, hope to sea more of this kind of videos frome you, also greate scene, well done

Interesting info. I don't plan on buying either camera but the quality of your analysis here makes me want to keep watching. I was really surprised you could get something like the Ursa Mini 4.6k used for 3000$. Not totally out of reach for a budding indie filmmaker, or documentary filmmaker. BTW your wife is certainly a good sport when it comes to being in your videos. Her performance in the opening scene was pretty good too!

Fantastic job as always!

Really enjoyed this. Well presented and backed up with great B-roll..

Its interestingly pretty easy to tell them apart if you know where you have to look. Flannel Ninja had a few videos comparing the Pocket4k to the ZCam E2 and pointed out that the 4k had a red push in the midtones. You cant see that really well in the "basic" shots at 7:00 where the Ursa is more green in the skintones. But great video showing its features!

Man you are good! Great story telling. Great sense of humor. Great cinematography. Bravo!

if that were me in that scene i wouldve bursted out laughing with all that eye contact going on but im just funny like that

i love the look you get for black magic cameras i have been using the sony a7riii with vintage SLR lenses as i still do a lot of photography and have been considering some new gear get the sonyA7iii as a B-cam or upgrade to the Ursa mini 4.6k and use my A7riii as a B-cam i already use davinch resolve for my workflow

You're the best. Im still waiting for the color grading tutorial !!!!

To me which one was the pocket 4K was super obvious that i noticed the difference even before you mentioned it was shot on 2 different cameras. The pocket is overly. even unnaturally sharp. Its one of the sharpest cameras that exist right now in my opinion. The ursa on the other hand is far more natural, and in my opinion far more pleasing especially with the way it handles highlight rolloff.

Love your work, Spencer. Super happy with my Nikon Z6, so I cant even say I’m quite interested in either of these. Subscribed to your personality, man.

Loved the scene recreation. Goose bumps. Brilliant practical example. Thanks so.much :-)

You really don't need a speedbooster, unless you already have non-native glass. Plus with BRAW you can now use SD Cards, and the battery grip wasn't announced when you shot this, but power is now sorted.

Gracias por tu video, me fue de mucha utilidad, saludos desde Guateamala!!

The plant and books in the one setting were more in focus in the background on the Pocket vs. the Ursa Mini. If you say the Pocket camera does better in low light, why didn't you reverse the roles and point the Pocket at yourself as you had nearly no lighting on you? *shrugs* My observation. I did like the comments in regards to accessories that would be almost required to get to Ursa Mini grade shooting.

Love your cinema replica challenges.

Viltrox vs Metabones could be a future video... Also, using the "Roger Deacons Ring Light."

dude the banding in the first scene with the 2 shot os to the female was nuts tho

You don't need to shoot CFAST on the pocket. You can shoot almost every codec on SSD. Also, with the 0.64x speesbooster, the effective sensor size is *larger* than the UMP 4.6K. Also, the UMP 4.6K needs to be kitted out as well. And all the accessories you need for it will be *more* expensive (gimbal, tripod, batteries..etc since it has to support more weight). So if you compare the cost of creating a functional pocket 4k to a functional ump 4.6k the price gaps opens again. Running and owning the pocket 4k is cheaper across the board. 😊😊

The grading is on point 👍

Really informative, never really thought of it in the way you said it. But you are totally correct, I am already pushing close to $3200 to get the pocket 4k fitted out for longer shoots. I guess you could of added that the nice screen makes it so you technically dont need another monitor like most DSLR's as far as price point. Unless you are in a tight location most the time I just use the 5 inch screen on the back, but overall I am happy and can still see the pocket 4k as an A camera for most users. Excited about the PRO G2 as well. Looking forward to more videos.

Really impressed with your channel, hope you keep it up

Hi! I'm a big fan of your channel as you show people how to make their footage look as cinematic as possible with films with GREAT cinematography!. I genuienly don't know how you haven't blown up yet. I had a question. Your audio is great. What do you use to shoot the audio in your short films? And do you use the same setup for exteriors? I'd really appreciate your response!

@07:18 - There is a lot more detail in the plant on the pocket

most people i have worked for cant tell difference between canon 600d and pocket 4K , thats my reality. So for them to tell difference in quality between these 2 , they would never ever see it .

Great video - did you shoot LOG on both camera’s to help match in post-production?

Thanks again for another great video, your channel is awesome. Would love to see you examine getting great noiseless blacks on the Pocket and the Ursa. You're super great at low light shooting and it would be great to get your advice on best parctices.

Spenser....great job thank you for taking the time and sharing...please share with us how you color matched the two cameras...editor? did you do an auto match??

Holy!!!! That opening scene!!

I like the color grading.

Loved that Sicario recreation! Where did you get the music background for that scene? Anyway, I don't subscribe to many channels anymore, but you got me. Great work!

The UM4.6k doesn't have a taller sensor for anamorphics. It crops the sides. It's a normal 17:9 sensor. Similarly, the P4k doesn't have a 4:3 sensor. It's also 17:9.

Awesome man.. keep posting more videos and lighting setups

I think the comparison is unfair as the URSA shot has the more dramatic camera angle and lightening, I would like to see the pocket 4k from that shot

wow that intro 11/10

ursa looks much more pleasing, like a lot

Thanks Spenser... what about the bmpcc 6k vs the Ursa Mini 4.6k?

4:25 Except, Pocket 4K doesn't have 4:3 mode for anamorphic. :(

It's so true- you really spend about $3,000 or more to rig out the BMPCC4k . How do you feel the two cameras compare in low light?

Great job! Interesting compare.

Your work is amazing bro! Did you use your promist filter for your talking head shots? Looks awesome!

Do you tend to use the Sigma 18-35 and the Sigma 24-70 a lot for your content and production work - or more so your vintage lenses? Also, I saw you had additional b-roll with the Fuji X-T3 - what do you think of that camera?

Is this 720p? no offense i need some help but this looks really soft to me. I want the Pocket 4k, just waiting 20 days until NAB

I think comparing used older cine-cams with a small new one is strange. The price for a new Ursa mini 4.6k is about 5000 $ (without viewfinder or other accessoires). But I agree, the BMPCC 4k needs to be rigged. A cage, small Monitor and SSD storage and Batteries are about 600 $ more (depends on the monitor). All in all you afford 2200$ for a rigged BMPCC. BM-Raw update is out now for the pocket and it`s usable for the smaller gimbals= more flexability. In very extrem bright lightsituations, the Ursa mini might be better because of the dynamic range. The weight of the Ursa is about 5 pounds, the BMPCC has 750g (without rig).

Hey, thanks for these videos, they are really useful. Your grading is also great and perfectly matched to your references in every video. Would you be able to do some gradings videos on how to match a reference? Thanks!

Basic question from a slightly above basic guy, but I’m seeing that the p4k is always at a lower ISO that the URSA, is that because of the speed booster? I’m contemplating either or of these cameras and I’ve seen that the URSA is bad in low light so the higher ISO in a well light shot worries me.

How could you show 4k cameras comp...in full fckn HD????Damn the pic is the same i every cam with full hd

Maybe you could help me out. As far as I can tell there is no "Ursa Mini 4.6k" It's Ursa Mini Pro 4.6k (g1 and g2) also they have the Ursa Mini 4k (non pro). The Ursa Mini (which looks like the b-roll of the camera you showed in the video) only has an advertised 12 stops of Dynamic Range whereas Ursa Mini Pro 4.6k has (g1 and g2) have an advertised 15 stops of dynamic range. Can you provide some clarity?

Why get a metabones speedbooster and not a cheap glassless adapter (ef to mft) ?

Thanks for this really interesting comparison. One question: why didn’t you utilise Braw for this comparison, since it is available also for the BMPCC4K by latest firmware?

Please maka a movie about your lenses! I am thinking of going from Sony FS5ii and A7iii to BM ursa G2 and BMPCC4k but don’t know any fun EF-glass!

what did you use for audio in scene with you and your wife ?? sounds very good!

but what did yoy use for sound in the recreation? It's not in your description

The only thing I’d ask in terms of comparing the two is what about BRAW? If the 4.6k could do that then I think there would be no question to go with it. I just feel like BM has kind of left it out in the cold.