I didn't want to make a comment like this but witch hunting poey is not cool, I understand you're trying to side with me and all that but I got into a call with the man again and he has sent me some of the comments that has been sent (that I later found out to be actual comments) and it is quite overboard ALONG WITH HIM LATER SHOWING ME HIM PLAYING WHAT SEEMS TO BE LEGITIMATLY (maybe not as good as seen in the videos but it looks fine to me) for now just leave him be as he could still come back as a legitimate player (hopefully) tldr: stop sending poey shit, he still has potential to come back as a legit player, I've seen him play normally I know he can play somewhat
Idk tho even top droid player who single tap only get to 190 bpm 400 combo but I think if you train enough you probably can even do it with your left fingers
@@derppy Tetterei's fastest single tap speed is around 220bpm iirc (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u7zLHxJCXaM.html), the fastest I've seen on osu!droid or standard by a landslide. He's also able to hold 200bpm consistently for insane amounts of time, having fcs on maps like TTFATF, AO-infinity, and Pretender 1.2x. Inhuman player fr
yeah we sort of learn to hear how our own tapping compares to the song in order to correct for better accuracy so when someone is SSing something but their tapping is so late and uneven its just funny 😂😂
I was one of his “friends” and I had defended him because he showed me his replays, which I believed. Then I saw his live play. I completely lost all belief for legitimacy and decided to stop talking to him. I tried to be as nice as possible but I had to spread the truth. He tried to convince me that everything was real, but the signs were too obvious.
I know this is kind of late, but I used to be close friends with poey. he was a terrible person and would always threaten to dox people in discord calls, ddos them and even threaten to swat and send a pipe bomb to peoples houses. I was in a call wiith him one time and he was talking about blowing up someones house and he had the person information pulled up on a discord live stream. he was a terrible human being and constantly manipulated me into being friends with him and would threaten to dox me and do all sorts of stuff to me. but it's been about 6 months since this happened. but I'm surprised this came up in my recommended as I completely forgot about poey until now. EDIT: The person in the multi clip is one of my other close friends (the bren) and he was friends with poey even before I knew who he was. bren has told me many things about him that I won't state in the comment because they are graphic. but he also feels the same way about him that I do. Gavin-
@@konstii_ me neither. I met him randomly and thought he was chill but it turns out he was a terrible human being. and I really hope that he gets the help he needs.
See there are two kinds of cheater: 1. Cheaters that are very nice people and just cheat in some games where things can get really grindy. 2. Toxic noobs that don’t even try to learn the game and are generally very toxic to non cheating players and rotten people in general. In some situations I can be the 1st one. Poey is the example of the 2nd.
Relax DOESN'T help you master jumps. Yes, it will increase your reaction time and raw aim but your tapping timing will be off. Hitting jumps require good tapping timing too CMIIW
Yeah like literally. I used to play relax all the time. It only really improved my reading and kinda how comfortable I was with aiming jumps. It took me so long to even be able to do 7-8 jumps because my input was so bad and no where near coordinated with my aim. But now that I've actually been playing maps without relax and building up the consistency and coordination between my aim and input. Jumps are way easier nowadays lol
Hi, i want to tell my story about relax. Introduce Short story (easier to read bec my english is bad, if want long just reply. But i dont think that i will be comfortable to tell in not my languageeee it will be boring .-. ): My first set was cheap membrane and cheap mouse and i was trash in hitting 3x notes stacked, this was real bad. I don't remember that i was using in this time relax, maybe, maybe not if yes it was very rarely. From the start i needed more and more, then im started to play high stars maps and forcing myself to trying click that. Started nomod farming, bought a tablet and mechanical keypad in the same time. Keypad was bad idea, not stable and cable pain, good only that it's a hotswap pad. Aaand now there's a many stairs. I got my 200pp top plays on padoru, save encore. To now im pissed about that scores it's trash to see in profile (pinned scores are good option for me). EDIT: i forgot: my fingers was feel pain and dimples in my fingers while using pen... it's not grip issue and accidentally i was clicking buttons (xp pen tablet this is why) these buttons shakes my cursor when im playing - it's not playable. I switched to mouse bloody a70 - yeah for minecraft and relax in osu. Now mouse only limits corners of screen that's very slows cursor and big jumps are impossible. it's all for edit. Relax mod Ok got scores, now what? Trash man on streaming can't do 500pp for free because he's too slow with tapping and even reading. I mean i wanted to play 7+star tech maps with tapping but reading it and aiming was hard. Mechanics of sliderback 200bpm+ is just terryfying - just can't hold it. I observed that watching youtube helps me to read and aim because i remember scheme of patterns speciffically hard to hold and play. Then my first idea was: Ok watching is like mod AUTO, but aim is rip off. This is how i started play with relax, learning aim/reading to the point i will be a god for reading and (stamina aiming?). In total i played ~5 months with ONLY RELAX. Still my scores are not good but i see a many people saying that wtf how, it's hard to even see a cursor following the pattern. Back to normal tapping after 5months relax mod From this point i think im just ready, to play normally. Started playing with tapping when i bought new mech keyboard (blue switches, keypad was with browns i changed to silvers speed). Good to point i have 60hz monitor and if i see anyone with smooth aiming i can't even think what's i will able to do in future. I plugged all in and... magic! I CAN'T DO ANYTHING (but only for 15-60min) D: i played and played and yes. My aim was still that's good that with relax mod, cursor dancing is still normal nothing changed but i'm now faster i can hold hard bpm sliders i know how aim patterns and how not to die, even how use UR bar. Good to know that's now i can synchronize 2 fingers on tech maps (fingercontrol i think) and i'm 25x better than before. Streaming is easier, at this moment trying to get C rank, next B rank on words i never said +DT and im still improving and improving. Onetapping jumps is more synchronized, i even SS'ed 8star (with autopilot it's like stacked and you can do it with closed eyes, but you see, before i got C rank LMAO [WTFFFFFF I DIDN'T WATCHED IT, I WAS TRYING TO STREAM/ALTERNATE THAT WTF XDDD now im only onetapping this... what's a good improve LOOL and second B score is a finally onetapping xd]) ~30sec map on SS autopilot on 3 try, proof: imgur.com/a/ZrlUm6z (it's my second SS because i watched a replay and forgot to save xd). i dunno what to add my onetapping is just more flexible to rythm and patterns. little tip: Clear air or just leaving house helps to be more energetic back ingame or just be not depressed like me D: || BE MOTIVATED & HAVE FUN it's funny how i can't even spell and im wrote "INTRODUCE" like a pro commentator lmao -_- if u have any questions i can respond.
Jumps have actually more to do with the tapping hand than the aiming hand. Your aim hand naturally follows your tapping hand, therefore if your metronome (tapping hand) is off, you will be unable to jump at the right speed
I mean.... Cookiezie didn't really "cheat". I mean, he did, but it was once, and it was 100% on purpose to get banned, because Osu! staff refused to delete his account at his request
whats even the point of cheating on osu? You play the game for the fufillment of completing stuff and achieving stuff, as well as improving at it, so that after a while it can be more fun. Cheating removes that fun from the game entirely. If you cheat, people just straight up hate you and want you off the game, there's no positive result from it. You just make it terrible for yourself lol.
@cifernyx But the thing is, this is OSU, a Community where basically just being good is an enough reason to be accused of cheating, and where many of its player have a good eye or even too good of an eye to the point they can detect cheating at any moment notice, and also being filled with an Asshole that being envious to everything that better than their Tremor Sorry Hands. Cheating in OSU is a stupid idea of their own, atleast if you cheat in a game like Idol Game like D4DJ, Bandori i can still get it because you know Points. But this is OSU.
I cheated for 2 years on osu! only caring about rank. Then someone made an osu! report about me on the subreddit. I 100% admitted fault and took the ban. Thankfully 7 months later, I appealed my restriction and was back to playing, only this time. Being a legit player. I don't think poey will come back as being legit or non-toxic. But you never know, people can change.
Everytime I feel like useless, I go back to this video to remember that there are people out there who cheat on a circle clicking game for pathetic petty clout and I immediately feel better about myself for not being this loser 💀
ah, I know I am over 2 months late on this matter, but as for the screenshots that I provided to help this video, I never mentioned poey's name until AFTER I quoted and asked for the opinion of the teaching advice part, along with not calling him a cheater (though this one can be a bit dodge cause it was a while ago that I did this.) Therefore, my friend (who was top 1k at the time) wasn't really able to do a background check, which pretty much eliminates a bit of bias towards a certain side.
it's an old vid but funfact: I talked to him once cuz he wanted to commission an overlay from me (he ended up not commissioning me) and the overlay style from this video is veryyyy similar to what I used to do back in these days
Ah, poey the good days when I was clueless about him cheating. I was so naive back then, I come back to this video every now and then. I left his community around April 2021 and I don’t regret it at all since he is a terrible person so I never would talk to him again.
I never knew that singletapping and streaming used different muscle groups. I don’t follow poey (never did) but I always wondered why I couldn’t singletap 210 but I can almost stream 260.
yeah, with certain tapping styles (like when i single tap) i usually use larger muscle groups where when im streaming im trying to barely use any and they are mostly for just moving the fingers
I was a cheater too, back 3 years ago i used an osu!mania bot (because even right now i play mania) and cheated in 2 maps, getting #5 and #10, i got banned but i didnt leave as a cheater, i kept playing and after 2 years i got unbanned and was welcome back to the community, i love how osu! staff (sometimes) give you a second chance to return as a legit player. that is exactly what happened to me since i got welcomed back into the community and found really cool people that i never thought i would find. Take this as a lesson: Never cheat in any tipe of game, because you will be punished and (most likely) be known as one of the worst thing in the world: a cheater. Probs no one will read this, but ill still say it. After my ban i never wanted to cheat ever again, hard resetted my pc and played as a legit player. Thank you for your time, have a nice day.
dude how are you THIS underrated, If i wouldn't have seen your subs I would have assumed that you are somewhat of a popular face in the youtube breakdown communities lol
Met poey a couple times here and there in discord remember him saying he got the three mod play and knowing that he just didnt the he was just a cheater and would spread the word around that he was cheating but he always said that he had proof he was legit. but he never had hit accuracy bar in the bottom of his screen and wouldnt have his keystrokes on so i always suspected it
I don't wanna sound like I'm defending him, but relax did help me aim quite a bit, just don't do it too long or you will have no accuracy skill left, e.g. hitting all the jumps with 75% acc
im probably late, but i like to point out he doesn't use the proper UR bar in his streams or his liveplay. If he did, it would be blatant that he was relax hacking LUL
Yup, in the followup i made i talked about how he also never showed his ur bar Aditionally i made some now deleted clips from a couple months after i made the video and he was still cheating then, playing everything will freeze with out of sync, not even timed taps (the things i would do to get those clips back)
cookiez was never really a cheater and the staff should have unbanned him when he asked. I guess it's still respectable that staff treated it as any other unban application but his intention was never really to cheat it was just to get his acc deleted.
yeah i understand that, cookiezi wasnt really a big cheater and only did it to get banned, just saying niko would have fit a little better but he isnt as known as cookiezi so the connection wouldn't have fit as well
This guy came onto an osu! private server i used to be staff on and kept blatantly cheating and tried using the fact he got us 6 users as a reason to unban him lol
depends on how much stamina you got and how quickly you can jackhammer with your left hand but in most cases it's pretty difficult compared to doubletapping
Actually that aim tip he gave actually worked to me and now i have really quick aim. I didnt get the advise from him i just used to play relax only for a while and returned with really fast aim.
i used to be good friends with poey, i used to think his jokes that were really racist were just his humor so i played along, only until i remeber him doxxing the discord server was when i stopped talking to him, i remeber hh used to play of a 4g data box, and he was really, really really good at osu. like RX style aim yknow. but i think this clears up the majority of things in my mind ig. i used to play on his mc with him, on point i was admin and helping him set up the server and i remeber him going thru everyones ip and as a joke opening up a doxxing program, and i said dont do it bro and he didnt, it went something along the lines of that. idk he seems like he hasnt changed one bit which sucks ALOT.
The idea of "singletapping" streams is very very old, first time I've seen it in Aqo's askfm like 6 or 7 years ago. It actually makes sense because if you develop high singletapping speed with your fingers independently it will greatly boost your streaming capability. The catch is that you need to only use your fingers while tapping, the rest of the wrist needs to remain passive. Don't know where this guy found this or maybe he came to that conclusion himself? Who knows ...
In the image material play, you can see he isnt even tapping the sliders, just spamming his keyboard bot even consistant, its about 235 what he is streaming, as a 6 digit i still have better consistancy than that
this is poey. i got drawn into gang activity and ended up in jail fora few years. could come back to the game. fuck kns. nqas gonna be mad forever and to be fair idek why i cheated but i mimght make a little return in 6 months
late comment but playing relax only is absolutely terrible for your game. I decided to play RX because i couldn't aim at all, I can set insane aim 700s now, but I can't tap 4 stars anymore.
It will come back quickly. I don't think relax makes you worse, but it doesn't really help. I could easily set 1k with relax but that's not playing the game. Your reading may improve because you will do harder maps than you would otherwise, but you could do that just playing normally. Anyway, I'm sure your tapping will catch back up after like a week.
6 digit trying to explain how to get better at streams: try playing a practice deathstream 180bpm map, if you fc it, try a death stream map that is 10 bpm faster than the last one (or 5 bpm if you want) if you fc the map, repeat the process
Kind of what i did years ago when i was 6 digit (equivalent of a 7 digit today) but instead i would do a week of a bpm and slowly bring it up (kind of stopped around 200 for those until i got into speed)
