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Poirot...As James Bond??! - The Big Four 

Miles Ledoux
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A comparison of the Agatha Christie novel The Big Four to its TV adaptation.
Stills and footage used are from:
Agatha Christie's Poirot
Death on the Nile (2022)
Sherlock
Dr. No
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
Diamonds Are Forever
For Your Eyes Only
Tomorrow Never Dies
Harry and the Hendersons

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@songsayswhat
@songsayswhat Год назад
You might say Fleming was instead inspired by Christie since his first Bond novel didn't come out until the 1950s.
@jeremyroberts9065
@jeremyroberts9065 Год назад
Something about that book that surprises me; there have been several Adventures Games adapted from Agatha Christie's novels (most of them the Poirot novels), yet this book, which is the one that feels the most like a video game, due to its gimmick of having many smaller crimes investigated, tied together with a larger arc, was never adapted into a game. I think that's kind of a missed opportunity. 😅
@MysteryMiles
@MysteryMiles Год назад
Oh great. Two hours after posting this and I find out the next Branagh/Poirot film is based on Hallowe'en Party. I guess we didn't have to wait long to find out if my predictions in this video are accurate. Also I was going to cover Hallowe'en Party next, so I'll have to rethink that.
@neutercommuter2119
@neutercommuter2119 Год назад
You still could, but probably hit the spoiler warnings for those who want to go into the movie blind.
@philipmonihan8222
@philipmonihan8222 Год назад
No, no! Now's a perfect time to do Hallowe'en Party. I mean, who knows what Kenneth will change. He's already moving the whole thing to Venice and throwing in a seance. And don't feel bad about your Big 4 prediction. It was a good theory.
@MadameChristie
@MadameChristie Год назад
XD. Honestly I'm really worried because based on what little they've dropped about this adaptation it involves seances and Venice, neither of which have anything to do with Hallowe'en Party. Honestly though...I think as long as we have a child murdered at a Halloween party I might be ok.
@neutercommuter2119
@neutercommuter2119 Год назад
@@MadameChristie That last sentence is hilariously dangerous out of context! ;)
@philipmonihan8222
@philipmonihan8222 Год назад
@lati long What an interesting way of looking at it.
@philipmonihan8222
@philipmonihan8222 Год назад
I was disappointed by the lack of Hastings, too. My best guess is that it's because Hugh Fraser had a bigger role in Curtain. Maybe they wanted to even out Japp and Hastings's screen time.
@shotmanz24th19
@shotmanz24th19 Год назад
The biggest problem with the series was overindulging on Japp(a character who I thankfully found entertaining),making Hastings a buffoon-save for a few episodes- ,the over-pandering to the Sjws in seasons 9-10 and the tasteless,bland and mind-numbingly boring episodes of seasons 11-13.
@nkechi4635
@nkechi4635 Год назад
​@@shotmanz24th19 I can't believe people actually use the term SJWs unironically, automatically can't take you seriously
@El-Hugger
@El-Hugger Год назад
@@shotmanz24th19???
@Jane-he4xx
@Jane-he4xx Год назад
I LOVE AC's Poirot and have watched the series/movies many, many times... but I just CAN'T watch CURTAIN! I think it would be FAR too sad!
@MsEyelinered
@MsEyelinered Год назад
Oh my god YES. I didn’t know content like this existed and I’ve been obsessed with Christie for awhile
@sergioaugustoangelini9326
@sergioaugustoangelini9326 Год назад
Underrated masterpiece.
@jjmboston5832
@jjmboston5832 Год назад
what the book? or the adaptation?
@Natilra
@Natilra Год назад
When I saw the title of this video, I thought it was going to be Branagh's Orient Express. I'd say he went pretty Bond-esque from the start! specifically that chase on the snowy scaffolding
@rosaharitos
@rosaharitos Год назад
Love AC Poirot- David Suchet is amazing and this was a good movie, the earlier films were much better than the more recent ones- although The Curtain, was amazing. Thanks for post
@shannonhonadle857
@shannonhonadle857 Год назад
Good commentary. The Poirot series made sure to choose the better Christie stories for all the earlier series when they weren't sure they would get to do all of them. The problem with that is it meant, with the exception of "Curtain", they saved the duds for the last season. I think they do a great job with The Big Four as Christie doesn't do a good job with thrillers and spy novels. I did miss Hastings and wished we had more time with him and Poirot but I was just so glad they did manage to bring back Japp, Miss Lemmon and Hastings for this episode as they have been gone from the show for years. However, because of this, my big complaint is I think Adriana Oliver should have been it. Yes, she wasn't in the original novel but she hadn't been introduced yet. Since the TV series relied on her so much, I think it would have been a wonderful opportunity to do the one thing Christie never herself did, have her be in company with Japp and Hastings (and Miss Lemmon). Oh well, missed opportunities.
@bertassellodavide1297
@bertassellodavide1297 Год назад
Chapeau ! Monsieur, merci pour votre vidéo.🥳🥇👍
@Alpha-oo8
@Alpha-oo8 6 месяцев назад
I have to agree, this adaptation doesnt resemble the original in the slightest, but, because of how drastically different it is, I think it was for the best. The big 4 is one I have actually read, so this complete change kept me pleasantly on my toes
@tiararoxeanne1318
@tiararoxeanne1318 Год назад
The opening is hillarious🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@stevenhogg1708
@stevenhogg1708 8 месяцев назад
As you hinted with your choice of 007 clips, Roald Dahl's script for 'You Only Live Twice' has probably rather more of 'The Big Four' in it than it does of Fleming's 'You Only Live Twice'! It is difficult not to wonder if, having decided the book was unadaptable (not least because it is a direct sequence to OHMSS which was filmed AFTER YOLT), Dahl recalled the 'live twice' trick from 'The Big Four' and that gave him much of the last couple of acts of YOLT also! The irony here is also that Mark Gatiss also considered 'The Big Four' to be incapable of adaptation and hence reworked it, as you say, as a rather more typical, if somewhat unlikely, Poirot murder mystery. My understanding is that Agatha Christie wished to alternate murder mysteries and spy thriller - a number of her early works were more in the spy genre and she continued to include spy elements in later books, such as 'The Incredible Theft'. Due to the comparative success of the murder mysteries, her publisher advised her to stick to these, leaving the gap in the market for a smooth but ruthless secret agent to be exploited a couple of decades later by a man with first hand experience - not all of it successful - of real espionage.
@DavidMacDowellBlue
@DavidMacDowellBlue Год назад
Excellent commentary.
@arashimifune2853
@arashimifune2853 Год назад
My first thought was that perhaps Hugh Fraser had limited availability at that time and that is why there was so little of Hatsings? 🤔
@Unownshipper
@Unownshipper Год назад
That’s the only excuse that makes sense (same for the absence of Zoë Wanamaker’s Ariadne Oliver). The notion that the writer’s couldn’t fit Hastings into the plot except for that last second is baffling to the point of verging credibility.
@brucealanwilson4121
@brucealanwilson4121 Год назад
Am I the only one who gets the impression that Miss Lemon would very much like to become Mme. Poirot?
@suzie_lovescats
@suzie_lovescats 8 месяцев назад
She definitely had a soft spot for him ❤
@HomespunWisdom
@HomespunWisdom Год назад
Interesting comparisons and observations. I agree. Hastings could have easily taken the place of Tyso during the revelation instead of popping in for his customary exclamation of "Good Lord!" for a throw-away comedic moment (that flopped, in my humble opinion). I will forever associate David Suchet with Poirot as a favourite.
@ThornOfSociety
@ThornOfSociety Год назад
Makes you wonder if they had cast was it Tyson? In case that couldn't get Hugh Fraser back only to then manage it. Supposedly the third Branagh film is based on Hallowe'en Party
@ljslo....
@ljslo.... Год назад
David Suchet - No1 Poirot 👑
@suzie_lovescats
@suzie_lovescats 8 месяцев назад
Yes 🥇❤️
@lukacunningham342
@lukacunningham342 4 месяца назад
The reason the screenwriter made the adaptation different is that it was, according to him, “an unadaptable mess”
@mais_oui2301
@mais_oui2301 Год назад
What a wonderful review! Actually that story was SO bad even Christie herself called it "that rotten book". Well... that was a very mild definition 😂 The plot is absolute, total rubbish. Poirot spitting poisoned darts?! Secret twins?? Secret kids?! Suspicious Asians and Americans and secret societies?? Mysterious drugs and all sorts of pathetic cliches?? That was cheap and ridiculous to the extreme. I was so shocked reading that book I was thrilled to see someone dared to actually film that trash. Poor Dame Agatha must had been tormented by the fact she'd actually written that for her dear life 😂 And wow!! - that was adapted! Still as a very.... fantastic plot. But indeed far more christieish!! The moment miss Lemon straightens the stuff in Poirot's table and says smth like "He liked things just like that, didn't he?" was so heartbreaking and heartwarming. And Japp signing those letters. Really compensates for the concealed matters of Poirot's death reception in "Curtain". Thanks for that video!! And please forgive my possible mistakes as I'm not a native speaker 😁
@karlsnow5281
@karlsnow5281 Год назад
Poirot is way cooler than Bond and a much better dresser
@ncooty
@ncooty 11 месяцев назад
The comments about the disappearance of the core gang (Hastings, Japp, and Ms. Lemon) after 2002 made me sigh. I disliked the campy, childish portrayal of Hastings, but they were a great and endearing cast. I'd have much preferred that they'd been in nearly all of the stories.
@ramthian
@ramthian Год назад
❤❤❤🎉
@tracynickels164
@tracynickels164 Год назад
Please let it be someone else!!!!
@oskarm646
@oskarm646 6 месяцев назад
If Sherlock Holmes and James Bond had a baby... Tbh my least favourite Christie book. Couldn't even finish it
@lukacunningham342
@lukacunningham342 Год назад
This feels more like Agatha Christie was struggling with her novel so she asked Ian Fleming to make it
@somebodycooliguess1597
@somebodycooliguess1597 Год назад
Another reason I'm glad they changed the story for the film: the book surprised me with how racist it was. Christie was big on sorting people into types, often based on ethnicity or 'breeding'. Seems to her that the Chinese type was inherently sneaky, devious and unscrupulous, and the intelligent ones were even more dangerous. The scene where Hastings is captured, there's a lot of mentions of the Chinese mens' facial features and how unnerving they were. I know it's probably reflective of British attitudes at the time but still, ew!
@gnolan4281
@gnolan4281 Год назад
Countess Vera Rossakoff as love interest? No my friend you are mistaken. Love of this sort it is not for Poirot just as surely as he would never partake of the steak & kidney pie. Pommes frites, perhaps.
@mais_oui2301
@mais_oui2301 Год назад
Well mon ami she was WRITTEN that way. She was vulgar to the extreme, bizarre, exotic... but Poirot seemed to be very fond of her for decades. Though I don't actually get why, that seemed very much out of chatacter. Looked like she needed to... punish her character fot being that tiresome and popular 😂
@suzie_lovescats
@suzie_lovescats Месяц назад
Poirot actually made stake and kidney pudding for his friends in Lord Edgware Dies.
@gnolan4281
@gnolan4281 Месяц назад
@@suzie_lovescats A technicality but Poirot he did not make stake and kidney pie. He made steak and kidney pie perhaps?
@troopercam1775
@troopercam1775 Год назад
The reason hastings, japp, and lemon don't appear is the production company changed and they wanted to take the series in a less comedic way
@jjmboston5832
@jjmboston5832 Год назад
this was only 1 of about 4 or 5 of the Suchet POIROTs that I disliked. The original book, although dated, was much more interesting. This POIROT turned the motive into a banality. Hated it.
@Unownshipper
@Unownshipper Год назад
I’m not a fan of the Suchet adaptation because of the tone (the many cutaways to a hooded man laughing menacingly was more childish than eerie) but the book is an utterly unadaptable mess in its true form. Too based around the racism and paranoia of The Yellow Panic to be suitable for today’s audiences while the journalist character being a smug, conspiracy-believer who accepts The Big Four fake news without verifying his sources rings sadly true.
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