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This goes from impossible to hold on... LOL What do y'all think, is this somehow the truth behind the scenes? Also notice the eerie part of this going over past ttar's head LOL
Honestly, due to the "application" of outer space, I would regard it as a very feasible scenario. I had come across those files two years ago and to say that I was shocked would be an understatement.
It's also worth thinking about how empty X/Y's plot feels compared to the ambitious (at least by Pokemon standards) plot of BW. There's barely anything there. You would think they would follow-up BW with something even grander and greater, and realizing they did but it got too much for them solves a huge piece of the puzzle imo.
No. This is garbage. Apparently, There's an official statement out there from Game Freak Execs that explains Why X&Y were as they were... it boils down to Crunch, honestly. They didn't have time to build the epic story they wanted, Then Z got canned, so they moved the Zygarde Elements to Alola. The initial plan was for X&Y to Have a Post-game story Surrounding The Zygarde Cells, as the Residual Radiation(?) Of the Device being fired was Destroying the Land... The player would need to stop it, with the help of AZ and Zygarde, Redeeming AZ, and Triggering Floettes return. THIS was originally post-game, then The plot of Z, Then completely scrapped To focus on OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire... While the rest of the team moved on to Sun&Moon... And incorporated the Zygarde cells, and the Destroyer form from the Device/Weapon, into those games(Magearna was initially intended, apparently, as the control core of the Machine given life by the Xerneas/Yveltal Energy). Why do I know this? I don't. This is a theory, put together from various bits and pieces from interviews of the Staff, most importantly the information about WHY there was never a Z(that's straight from an interview.) And Zygarde is the GUARDIAN OF EARTH, Plus it's complete form Looks like a fuckin Gundam or Megazord... definitely a "Hero"... and Necrozma? Just look at it... That SCREAMS Sentai Villain. And Sina and Dexio, the "Kalos Rangers"? It was a Power Rangers Parody, and we all saw it. Plus. Their mask are Red and Blue, Similar to both Xerneas and Yveltal, but Also To Zygarde Complete Form... it also has green, black, and Yellow, and look at that, the player has FRIENDS who show up to help in the battle against Lysander... Worse, Dexio, Sina, abd the three NON-Selectable Buddy Characters, Are color coded, Blue, Red, Pink, Black, Green... So look at it this way.... [Last time on KALOS RANGERS: The evil Lysandre Plans to fire his Death ray, And it's up to the Rangers to stop him in time. But with The immortal AZ captured, and the Legendary Beasts from which the machine draws its power missing, They must turn to their new friends for help... Summon the ultimate Pokémon: Zygarde...] sounds like A Sentai Plot, Yes? And look... thats TWO far more likely Theories, both based in ACTUAL KNOWN FACTS. This garbage was some weirdos fanfic, and I don't know WHY anyone believes any of it...
I think the reason this felt credible to a lot of people (including myself) was definitely hindsight, as we had an alien plot in gen 7, as well as actual humanoid aliens (the Ultra Recon Squad in USUM, Lusamine fusing with Nihilego), the mega evo dex entries implying that they mutate the DNA of the pokémon mega evolving, and the Delta Episode in ORAS; not to mention the Looker post-game stories in both gen 6 & 7 games.
The idea was also kinda used in XY anime... The Malamar became sort of villains in one of the episodes. It's a filler episode but hey, what if Malamar were actually the scrapped alien invaders??? Edit: there were actually 2 episodes dedicated to this plot. Just means they are supposed to be important Pokémon.
It's exactly because of hindsight that this is a plausible scenario, we already know for a fact that GF constantly creates waaaaaay more stuff than what they actually put in the final games, and we also know that what they don't use is always stored for use in future Gens (either right away, or because they went back to see what they had) Gen1 had 151, but the total number of mons made was like 300. In fact, every single Gen usually ends up using only around half of the mons made (confirmed by themselves) Haxorus was made in Gen4 and scrapped until Gen5 Zygarde was made for Gen5, then moved to Gen6, then shafted of a game and his unique mechanics held until Gen7 The Strange Suvenier hinted that Alola was supposed to have a superpowerful champion, but the actual games ended up having NO champion, and the whole plotline was instead used in Gen8 with "Leon, The Undefeated Champion" Gen8 had Eternatus, whose desing's is veeeeery similar to the UB-desing philosophy, and one of his themes even have the same sounds at the start. All of this despite not being a UB himself, which seem to imply that they instead just saved him for later And that's just of the top of my head, there's probably way more examples
@@jvbon646 True, I believe James Turner confirmed that Eternatus' final design was inspired by the Queen Xenomorph from Aliens, and Naganadel was inspired by regular xenomorphs
AZ being locked in a cage during the final battle in XY, the Flare members other than Lysandre all wearing some form of eyewear to cover their eyes possibly because they can’t hide their eyes, Lysandre using the weird fly suit in the final battle, Deoxys returning in ORAS along with the aliens concept being revisited in Sun and Moon. This all seems way too connected to just be coincidental.
Sun and Moon my dude. They could have originally planned it for Z. Alien Pokemon.... Alien People. All of those were in USUM. Which just so happened to have Zygarde Elements. As well as Sycamore's assistants. I am almost certain he actually saw all this and heard all this, but it was Sun and Moon. Also, Mega Stones are a alien item. They were formed because of a Meteor. Deoxys was a major ORAS Story. I think it was a very very credible leak. But it all got pushed to SM and USUM.
@@belowpressure no I think after 2-3 months of first trailer there will be gameplay and then 2025 summer in japan it will release so ya before trailer We can all speculate which will make the hype season more interesting after the trailer drops And tbh ttar is carrying it
i can definitely see the whole alien idea especially for xerosic with how pale his skin is, and i wouldnt be surprised if elements of that scrapped story were reworked for gen 7 (if its legit) since we actually got alien pokemon as the ultra beasts
There was an actual leak account back in the day that backed these leaks. I think it was the original Chinese leaker. Regardless there’s some things that back this up. Team flares admins literally look like aliens and it explains the super hero sub plot. Considering they followed up the game with a plot about aliens, it’s not totally impossible.
@@CosmicLonging-jk8nl RU-vid purges most posts that post links. But you can probably find the old Reddit threads and more on it. I think centro last year put together a compilation of all the posts relating to this theory/spwculation.
Hmmm Xerneas and Yveltal do have kind of an alien appearance lol. Now I'm reminded of the Sword and Shield leaks where the story was Leon was a fraud, Bede would have stolen your first starter and Marnie was actually royalty or something, crazy.
@@carlostapia2822 Deoxys was the final boss of the Delta Episode; I think it's gotten its time in the spotlight. What I'm hoping for is a Legends Regigigas.
I kind of like the idea of the "evil team" of a game being these Men in Black type figures that are secretly aliens slowly invading the planet in secret.
I think there's some possibility of this being the unused draft It talks about stuff that is very much referenced from X and Y to sun and moon Alien's looking like humans definitely sounds like the ultra beasts The megastones being from space lines up with oras It's entirely like parts of this draft were repurposed for the games after X and Y, but at the same time, you can see why it was left as a draft( if it is indeed the original draft)
Glad you brought this bro, I've been searching this 4Chan leak for months after some dude told me what XY should have been in some comment section in FB. That was two months prior to the revelation of Legends Z-A in the Pokémon Day. I thought he's lying because i couldn't search this 4Chan thread.
Apparently as per some comments here (which were deleted immediately since I only saw them once) this 4chan post itself was based on an actual leak from the Chinese Riddler a decade ago, which is intriguing. I've been doing a lot of searches but I can't find any evidence of this. If true, this would confirm everything in the post to be true.
Perhaps the most incredible "prediction" from this leak is the one about a Pokemon professor as the villain, which came true all the way later in Gen 9!
This was odd and I can see the alien-like design choices with Team Flare but more than anything I want to see them do something like that with Deoxys. Let us go to its homeworld and maybe find out that all the proposed alien Pokemon are from the same planet.
This looks as if in hindsight it could have at least some mileage. Ultra beasts, time constraints overhauling the dex to 3D, Zygarde appearing almost extra terrestrial, Team Flare’s weird attire, Xerosic’s strangely pale appearance… Strikes me as potentially an element of truth that someone embellished by filling in what they didn’t know. Mega evolution could still be heavily linked to Deoxys, with the life force of countless Pokémon in the ultimate weapon interacting with Deoxys to create stones containing mutated DNA. Fragments of the meteor then fell back to earth (this also could explain the sootopolis meteor and primal reversion).
This is the kinda 4 chan post that you know is so crap from the beginning but the more u read into it the more u start reluctantly entertaining it. Has some really interesting ideas as nonsensical it might seem as a whole. Deoxys, Ultra beasts, UltraMegalopolis, Team Flare designs and Lysander designs, Zygarde cells in the ultra beast region, and stuff
this feels like a 0th draft, like they were spit balling ideas, tried to mold it to work a bit, but it was just too ambitious for the 1st fully 3d main line pokemon game since they still needed to make a lot of stuff from scratch and on a pretty weak system so there was a lot to do beyond the story. some of them sound like they were implemented into ORAS and SM like the MIB idea turned into the ultra recon squad (and aether to some extent). if the post is true, what probably happened was that GF thought the ideas were good but it was just the wrong time to do that so they held onto them but by the time they had enough built to be able to put the ideas in the games, pokemon had to make it more kid friendly since the 3DS was a new system and thus brought in a younger audience so the alien idea had to appeal to them more.
also it feels like pokemon tries to refresh every few gens, like gen 5 to 6 went from 2D to 3D and became more cheery from the fairly dark story of BW/B2W2 and again with SWSH to SV the whole world is open world, nonlinear game, great story, more places to feel progression than just the gyms. I think they're trying to refresh every 4 gens (4 gens =1 "era" of pokemon, to break it more evenly), BW tried something very new was a darker story and had a whole self contained pokedex and now SV they've been having more fun and experimenting with new ideas like the open world and "gym-like" areas without being actual gyms.
The Alien plot is basically what happens in Gen7, so there's some very uncanny stuff in this post that comes out before Gen7 was a thing. Likely why people think this post is credible.
I could honestly see this being an old draft for X and Y and weather this is true or not i do think these suppose ideas and plot lines sounds very interesting for a Pokemon game to explore.
It seems flabbergasting at first but the more you think about it some concepts mentioned sound slightly like what was later used especially in gen 7 like ultra beasts, the delta episode and the recon squad
I kinda like the end part. Ultimate weapon was supposed to destroy the earth and it hits the dyoxys meteor to create megastores. And maybe that causes the other evolution gimmicks in other regions due to the diffrent climates
I was watching one of ur z-a videos and realised that x and y forms of mega evolution are the light/x/xerneas power forms and the y are the dark/yveltal power enhanced forms.Also the singular normal mega evolution forms are the ones that take power from zygard
Unironically I kinda see similarities with this scrapped story and the story of Omni man and the viltrumites. Omni man was sent down just like AZ to destroy the planet, but after growing attached to mark and Debbie, or in this case, Floette, he decided not to. Then the alien race came down to Caine find AZ, just like the viltrumites came to earth searching for Omni man
I must say this came out before the lublic knew anything about Gen 7 and the whole Alien Looker thing got implemented in Sun and Moon. What are Ultra Beasts? They are aliens in the Pokémon Lore.
Assuming the date/info wasn't edited, this sound plausible, most of the stuff alings perfectly with what we saw later. ORAS, UBs, the Ultra Recon Squad, etc. We already know for a fact that GF constantly creates waaaaaay more stuff than what they actually put in the final games, and we also know that what they don't use is always stored for use in future Gens (either right away, or because they went back to see what they had) Gen1 had 151, but the total number of mons made was like 300. In fact, every single Gen usually ends up using only around half of the mons made (confirmed by themselves) Haxorus was made in Gen4 and scrapped until Gen5 Zygarde was made for Gen5, then moved to Gen6, then shafted of a game and his unique mechanics held until Gen7 The Strange Suvenier hinted that Alola was supposed to have a superpowerful champion, but the actual games ended up having NO champion, and the whole plotline was instead used in Gen8 with "Leon, The Undefeated Champion" Gen8 had Eternatus, whose desing's is veeeeery similar to the UB-desing philosophy, and one of his themes even have the same sounds at the start. All of this despite not being a UB himself, which seem to imply that they instead just saved him for later And that's just of the top of my head, there's probably way more examples
There are a lot of beta elements as well as parts of characters that go nowhere that suggest GameFreak comes up with complex, out there stories that wouldn't work in the games just for the sake of creative brainstorming, and then keeps elements of those drafts in their final characters. For example, beta art of N shows a puzzle cube with a keyhole in it that he was constantly trying to solve to likely unlock the Dark Stone/Light Stone. Even though this storyline was scrapped, N still has the puzzle cube. He even wears it around his neck as a kid as if it's important, but it's not part of the plot. Then there's the fact that N and Ghetsis look biologically related even though the game says he found him. They likely used to be related. There's also a lot of teases that N could be a Zoroark, of course conflicting with being related to Ghetsis, and it seems to be remnants from past brainstorming that they kept in to keep people guessing.
2:59 "and then they scrapped it again", kinda, you could argue the UR squad are aliens (since ultra space travel is distance-based, not dimension-based) and they pose as humans
This whole story of the aliens coming down planting a tree to suck the life energy out of the planet its sounds like NARUTO- 10 tails = tree! AZ = sage of six paths mom kaguya she stays on the planet cause of a human AZ stays for a Pokémon and team flare is kaguya alien race come to collect because she fails like AZ did and there so much more connecting the two stories just too much to type but I hope y’all Naruto fans see where I was coming from with this
Imagine if gen 7 only gave us either sm or usum, and we saw the other as a leak, saying oh in this scrapped version lusamine fuses with nihilego, or in this scrapped version necrozma fuses with solgaleo and lunala, and in this scrapped version you actually travel to uktra space and meet aliens from a place called uktra megalopolis and theres an uktra necrozma and other ultra beasts such as a poison dragon that evolves, a stack of bricks and a clown, like honestly we'd think theyre lying, wouldnt we
It's wrong to say XY was rushed at all, they took out most parts of the game before release and apparently the story was going to be three times the size of Gen 5..
Deoxys being one of my favorite Pokémon and us possibly getting to learn more about its origin is the only thing I like about this “draft”, other than that I like what we got a lot more
I came here expecting to hear a serious story for X and Y and then this man started talking about aliens, alienated Mega evolutions and AZ coming to earth to destroy it but choosing not to 😂
You know, the original story of Pokémon x2 and y2 sounded so amazing and imagine, if aliens were involved then there must have been tons of brand new alien Pokémon as well to be included alongside any further brand new Pokémon that could have been introduced in these sequels I would have loved to see not only a lot of brand new Pokémon introduced in kalos (the generation 6.5 Pokémon list would have been real and all those Pokémon, not just magearna, would have been included too) but also various hundreds of brand new alien Pokémon too. Hopefully all of it will be reintroduced in Pokémon legends z-a in addition to the lumiose redevelopment plot If not then In generation 10 and legends z-a can have the lumiose redevelopment plot, a different story and a final battle involving a fusion of xerneas and yveltal creating and controlling an army of real zombie Pokemon followed by another final battle with the legendary Pokémon who’s name starts with the letter A who’s the mastermind behind all the chaos. Not to mention that there are like multiple dozens of brand new Pokémon that never appeared in the series before
To be fair, we already have aliens in the form of Deoxys and the Ultra Recon Squad, them being from a different world literally makes them aliens. It kind of makes sense to me, but they could have just scrapped the idea in favor of using alien themes for Gen 7.
I just noticed that we're gonna have the letters XYZ and then A. I'd find it funny if some story relevant Pokémon would represent B and C that would be too good.
I mean yeah, Celosia, Aliana, Bryony, Mable, and Xerosic have their names start with different star types so there's that connection to space obv but idk how to feel about this
A theory on ur first take on the a legendarys name backstory is that xerneas is the the roots and huskbof the tree and yveltal us the leafs and fruits of the tree
I've been asking you to cover this for forever now the more I dug into this the more real it felt the bare bones x-y with so much scrapped content and the jump to sun and moon with similar elements I think they have been putzing around this concept of aliens and stuff for a while and want the fans to be comfortable with it as an idea before really pulling the trigger. Now it's not like this was the plan from the start but since they left so much unexplained in XY maybe they will use more of its empty space and plot as jumping off points to bring back some of these elements. I still cannot be unconvinced Fairy Type pokemon are from the moon, all of em, XY's fairy type gym leader from the moon too, sent to help protect us from the crazed deoxys people (basicaly Martians look at Martian manhunter).
It's interesting to point out that shiny Diance has like a coat on which maybe is a reference to her being an alien from the moon and had to deal with more cold temperatures
I had similar thoughts since i am certain time traveling or time distortion is going to occur. My thoughts were not so much of the human characters, but what if we get a mewtwo like a pokemon that is a trainer 😅 (first movie) because of what has been spoken here of taken life energy by planting the trees. Is starting to remind me of similar events in Sonic X of the later sessions
I think the whole scrapped x and y story with aliens theme,was later reused for the gen 7 games with the ubs and ultra recon squad? If it's true then that means gen 6 and 7 are connected and the ubs appeared at some point in gen 6 and invaded?
Every letter resembles a pokemon. XYZA A is either Arceus or its a new pokemon. Arceus is the creator it may have to intervene to stop Zygarde from destroying the world
You do know this isn't as crazy as it sounds right? We have multiple alien Pokemon and alien-humanoids that use Poipoles in their world. It's not that strange anymore, we have UBs, we have Paradox Pokemon, I mean dude the sky is the limits, Pokemon might fully embrace the scifi aspect going forward and I'm honestly, I'm here for it.
I mean, in the next Generation, we have Pokemon from parallel universes, and not only that, we have HUMANS from parallel universes. So the idea of aliens that look human sin´t as crazy as one can imagine, although I can see why they changed it or pushed the alien idea one gen to Sun/Moon. AZ being a giant could be seen as he being an alien who took human form
The plot is from Naruto and boruto, kaguya came from earth to suck the life of earth and making earth dies, in boruto momoshiki came from earth searching the tail beast that came from kaguya divine tree because they gonna eat it and create a new divine tree to sucks the life again.
Not sure why this Alien thing was a big deal for this poster when we all should know Clefairy was a Alien from space or was that debunked after the Mt. Moon Episode?
