Pokemon’s *NEW* Most One-Sided Ban Vote. 

Gen 9 FurretUsed (FU) > Gen 9 OU

@@bdt2002gamingwholeheartedly agree

I just watched it earlier today. It was absolutely amazing

Wild how this implies that Entei evolved to lose earthquake after centuries of evolution

@robloxplays4322 I’m pretty sure the paradox forms of the legendary beasts aren’t actually related to them as that wouldn’t make sense with their lore.

​@@noahtaylor1721Of course they are. The Past forms existed a real long time ago, and as time passed they became the Pokemon that died in the Bell Tower. They clearly retconned the 3 Pokemon being Eeveelutions

@@QweaklyForgotten @outtaideas849 They were never stated to be eeveelutions. That was just a very popular fan theory stemming from the fact that they share their typings with the Kanto eeveelutions. They probably weren’t eeveelutions considering the games state that they received their typings from Ho-oh to represent how they originally died and them already having the typings before their death would take significance away from the legend. Also there really isn’t that much lore to the paradox forms of the legendary beasts. They just sort of show up in the dlc without much of an explanation. They’re certainly implied to be related to the original trio, but nothing is confirmed. Anyways, sorry if this reply was too long, or if I got anything incorrect.

​@outtaideas849 Actually the paradox pokemons are from different timeline, this was stated in new DLC. Also the pokemon who died in bell tower are normal unknown pokemon. Ho oh revived & made them legendary pokemon

Great Hat?

​@@VassiliniaPowerful Hat

The hattest. Hatterene could never.

I read this in Jomothy's voice haha

Give me your HAT

Just shows paradoxes are nothing but lazy rehashes of pre existing pokemon

@@RedRockin6- Ganon if he was smart

to be fair, its a *really* cool hat

Team Fortress 2 taught me this...

Not quite how it works. All lower tiered Pokemon can be used in OU currently, so it'd be the same pretty much

​@@zekmaster644 I'm sure they were fully serious.

@@Sleeper800lol

This is certainly a reasonable and serious opinion.

Congratulations, you have renamed the "Ubers" tier "Overused" and renamed the "Overused" tier "Underused".

*WEAR ALL THE HATS!* Wait, Stellar Tera's only use is countering Elec-Balloon Shedinja while dodging a certain ghost that contracted cancer.

Where does that meme originated from. I've seen it for a while now, but idk where or how it started

@@DonPetexXlook up ferrothorn vs magnazone rap battle and thank me later

Ferrothorn was already one of my favorite Pokemon to use competitively. Very solid defensive backbone to Rain teams. You don't have to sell him to me any more.

​@@DonPetexX on the competitive Pokemon subreddit r/stunfisk there was a joke post about Slowbro coming out as gay and Ferrothorn being homophobic

​@@Skeloperch Ooh, look at you, so edgy 😐

How about other 253574 Paradoxes in OU?

Be glad gay porn was allowed to exist in this ferrathorn world🥹

​@@king_of_rats_Monfernep the council won't ban op mons They like.

@@lolimmune but *Cough Cough* Fire just Paradox whar better than other but weaker than Flutter Housemade

You fool, Ferrothorn is ALWAYS on the Smogon council. Even in Gens 1-4, where he thinks you won’t notice him.

why do you think he's not in gen9? it's because he got a promotion

the amount of niche knowledge needed to understand this is crazy

​@@spand9043 till amoongus and slowbro hear about this

Huh?

Showdown usually wants to stick very close to the games in terms of how battles work, and the team preview is taken directly from the games, so they aren’t going to alter it. The solution would be to ban Tera is general(I don’t have a stance on whether they should or not) or ban Tera blast

@@cross-layered8538ah yes let us ban one the reasons to play gen 9 over the others

@@chaosenforcerdhm969 I specifically stated I have no stance on whether it should be banned or not, don’t bash me in for no reason

@@cross-layered8538 you had a different opinion that me and that should be illegal obviously 🙄

@@chaosenforcerdhm969 obviously, as seen from Twitter, the most reliable source

Gouging Fire is alone in his suffering

and yet they leave Zazazenta to roam free in OU but entei's endless drip gets banished to the shadow realm

⁠@@beanslinger2Please describe your experience playing with and against the Zaza

Why are they head of big stall they aren't even a stall mon

Smogon has favorites and rather than get good at the game they take out the ban hammer. This isnt news to me.

@@ZenKrio you can't be serious lmao

@Dwurogowy I sit on a spot where I both an and am not.. I don't care enough but it's real.

​@@ZenKrio If LandoT isn't dominating OU they're not happy

Here I am using Entei all the way up in UU and OU :/

It's a formidable threat in VGC at least

Saying the accurate “styracosaurus” instead of the common “triceratops”, while saying the common “T. rex” instead of a more accurate raptor, this is peak humor, folks.

He did the cladistics.

​@@terdragontra8900 walking wake is clearly a theropod, but it's not clear whether it's a very large raptor or a pretty small ceratosaur/tyrannosaur. ...oh no, it's the "this" or "that" argument again!!

​​@@johnsanko4136 🔥 Perhaps funnier than the original comment, which is also of highest quality

@@terdragontra8900as well as intentionally sidestepping calling Great Neck an apatosaurus 🦕 10/10 shitpost

Yesssiiir the best mon

​@@Hensley_JbStellar Contrary Serperior is a beast. Fucking ruins your game if you get sloppy.

@@MrTigracho SLOPPY??!?!

Iron Beret plushies would sell.

lole

Fucking disgusting

Ferrothorn claims another soul.

Say gex

@@butteredsalmonella God he's so based. I hope he comes back in Gen 10.

Chilling Water is a TM, TM022 to be precise

Also the paradox suicune is called Walking Wake

Did you just miss Walking Wake

"Walking wake" it does help when youre sleepy for sure 👍

I made a Sun team around it when it first released that was pretty fun, close to the YOLO booster but with life orb instead and Sun to get Proto.

Unaware only ignores stat changes associated with the +6/-6 modifier (like Download, Intrepid Sword, Moxie, etc.); it cannot negate "intangible" stat boosts from things like Huge Power, Unburden, Fur Coat, Booster Energy, etc.

her*

It's basically whether it shows up as a +1 on showdown or not

Zacian is genderless. You’re both wrong.

@@user-km8vi5wo1gZacian and Zamazenta are sisters according to dex

Seriously power creep is out of control in this gen

​@@wacky9929Not really, 130 has been the base line for a good Attack Stat since Gen 5.

He got unbanned after like a week or two. He defended it again this time.

With an unbelieveable 91.14% ban vote percentage

With an unbelievable 91.14% ban vote percentage

This funny dog with a big hat is incredibly versatile in Gen 9 OU meta ​@@Mondo78951

That is an insane super majority

And the most sweeping result since the Bloodmoon Ursaluna suspect vote

LMAO WHAT DOES THIS JOKE MEAN

​@splitsee2526 there was a semi viral clip on Twitter of a gauging fire doing a set up sweep. It's name was gay porn and the music in the back was the Refrain from a song called good lookin, a country song about gay sex

@@abrawolf LMFAO

There are plenty of Pokemon that could have challenged it. Problem is they're all banned.

tera poison darkrai

Tera isn’t my favorite mechanic by any means, but couldn’t that also mean that Fairy needs another weakness? Fairy is a pretty dominant type, IMO it’s why Kingambit and Gholdengo are as meta as they are, being strong Steel types

Pure fairy, pure flying, pure steel, and pure ghost are just such good defensive typings. It's kinda insane that Gamefreak didn't think to mitigate the defensive benefits of tera somewhat. Being able to instanty turn on immunities to certain moves is insane.

@@DisastrousIntentionally which ones exactly? Lugia and Giratina?

RU-vid comments still complaining about Gambit and Ghold lmao

Fire type threatens gambit and gold Nobody could have foreseen this (Well it threatens everything else too but let's ignore that)

Why would they? Just because a handful of Pokemon are broken with it, that shouldn't supercede all the not banned Pokemon Tera helps make viable

Did they take any action on tera at all? VGC does open team sheet which I think is a fair compromise, at the very least open tera types should be an option.

The playerbase is fine with Tera, so it's not getting banned. Is it a good mechanic though? I mean Asmongold is just fine living in the health hazard that is his home, even though his quality of life would dramatically improve if he cleaned every so often

We're 2 years into the generation. Tera isnt going to be banned

Its quite more than a handful….we definitely need open team sheet

Wow that’s a whole lot of wrong in one comment. And for the love of goodness and gravy. Usage does not reflect a lack of brokenness. Fucking Dracovish rarely cracked super high usage let alone viability and yet it was supremely broken and hated.

@@HowlingOneify So its so good and very popular but people rarely use it and complain how they can never stop it despite it having had counters that are as common if not more common than it is. Oh and nothing changes, no mons get used more frequently after its gone or get used less frequently after its gone. Something that was very much not the case with the dracovish ban. The only thing that changes is people have to find some other strong terra user to blame for their losses now. Sure thing bud.

@@GolemRising rarely used it? Is your head up your backside? Mon had a commanding in OLT, and was a regularly massive presence at high ladder. Counters? Ah I love my “counters” which get flattened by +1 Proto Tera Dragon Outrage. Moltres? Oops Dragon Tail. Garg? Tera Ground Earthquake. It was way too good at blowing holes in teams and even if and when it went down, it left too crippled an opposing team to realistically come back from. Nothing changes? Steel and water types get better since they don’t give it completely free switches. Grass types also improve which is great for Wellspring. Nevermind that teams now don’t have an overbearing breaker and sweeper breathing down their necks in game. Oh and one thing more. Dondozo gets worse. It already wasn’t ironclad losing to Dragon Tail and possibly Outrage variants, but now people don’t have to stick such a mediocre Mon on their defensive teams to not risk folding.

@@HowlingOneify Commanding what in OLT? It was on 10% of teams at most. It had fewer appearances than Raging Bolt OR Iron Moth, and less than half the presence of Zamazenta. I think I saw 2 people running it after cutoff and at least one of them was not winning with it. But we are not talking about any of those mons, and we are talking about GF? Oh noes, your hard counters fall to them having very specific terras and coverage moves that cant be on all sets and make up a tiny percentage of the ones you see! Almost like....every other major offensive mon in the tier. Literally all of them. Tera Earth EQ on DD dnite. Hex sets on dragapult. Sub Vs Choice Vs LO vs Boots on Bolt. Etc Etc Etc. You also didnt even mention Dodonzo or Amola when you were talking about hard counters. Because you know damn well hardly anyone was running dragon tail and terra ferry shuts down the set anyways. Which are the actual hard counters. So good job revealing you already knew about them and chose to ignore the gaping hole in your argument, but I wont. And as for dodonzo yeah its so mediocre it hard walls all major physical threats in the tier barring choice band rillaboom. So bad it makes up a key part of one of the major defensive cores. Very mediocre. Wao. Which steel, water, or grass types will see more play, exactly? Because water types were already the go-too, so they would see less play if anything. They haven't so far, and wont in the future. If you cant come up with real examples, your point does not exist. But from your angry outrage and lack of any real points, you know as well as I do that this will go the same way as the last 3 OUs have. They will ban something irrelevant, and a few months later the same people screaming for this ban will be screaming about something else. Because the thing they want to ban is not the mon. The thing they want to ban is loosing to something they couldn't be bothered to prepare for properly.

@@GolemRising Where are you even pulling your usage stats from. Seriously. These sets were not random or rare. They picked up significantly towards the mid and late stages of OLT and were gaining a lot of notoriety among top players. Not to mention the many Tera blast variants running around, but especially fairy. None of the other offensive threats remotely compared to Gouging and its efficiency. It effortlessly adapted to beat any check you threw at it. It can’t run everything at once, it also didn’t have to. Chances are you’ll just run into a set you couldn’t prep for and lose to it. Tera Ground DNite is rarer, not to mention worse, than other sets. Dropping normal on it significantly guts its anti offense value. And LO Bolt is massively weak to hazards and chip, and unlike Gouging, is coming into battle a lot while Gouging often comes in just once. Specs has prediction issues, not to mention its poor speed, and Boots lacks power to muscle through teams which makes it quite simple to contain. Also sub is bad on it. You also didnt even mention Dodonzo or Amola when you were talking about hard counters. I didn’t mention Dondozo or Mola because they suck as answer. Dondozo has to avoid falling to 85% or it gets 2HKOd by Tera Dragon Proto Outrage. And Mola can’t even touch Gouging and has to use Tickle, plus struggles to take +1 Proto Tera Dragon Outrage. Claiming hardly anyone ran Dragon Tail is laughable. There’s literally high level replays of it clowning on teams which thought they were prepared for it. Tera Fairy? Oops now you’re hit by Heat Crash instead and no longer a true check. You should be awfully careful about sounding arrogant because you’re showing you aren’t as familiar as you like to lead on. Case in point. Dondozo was already steeply falling off in usage, because it’s a fat passive momentum sink that doesn’t actually do shit. Abused to no end by u-turn and knock off, and so easily pressured into resting. It’s nowhere near a staple anymore and rarely appears outside stall teams. Water types did jack fuck to check Gouging. They risked giving it free entry and set up. Grasses couldn’t touch it. Steels like Corv and Gholdengo were free entry, as were Kingambit and Iron Crown. It makes these Pokémon more useful now that they’re not letting such a dangerous Mon in. You’re the only one angry and crying here mate. Nothing that has been banned was “irrelevant”, and the last three OUs? Nice try but you should actually know about what you’re talking about first.

tera reveal would help with the predictibility issue tera has of what counter could work against it before getting into the fun part of playing well.

​@@randomprotag9329 that's my thought process too, i just don't think it's feasible to accurately predict with unrevealed tera. a 6v6 singles game with unrevealed tera (assuming team preview, no hax and that you correctly guess every item and move for your opponent) has 6561 outcomes on turn 1, compared to 81 with no tera or 169 with revealed tera. if other gen 9 ou players are really 81 times smarter than us pesky old gen players then fair play to them, but in my experience you usually just accept that at some point a silly tera will come out that makes you lose a trade and try to do the same back to even things out, the end result is basically the same as z-moves except there's far less counterplay

@@aldrichunfaithful3589 there are metagame calls of items or types which dont remotely fit the pokemon but teratypes dont have one terratype that does everything a player wants for each pokemon so its does go into better odds quesswork.

​@@randomprotag9329 but it doesnt help the predictability of whether or not they'll tera

They already tried and polled the community various times Support dried up after the first test

most of the community wanted the ban but smogon said nah

@@broidkanymore-zc4lt That's simply not true, every time the community is surveyed banning tera gets very little traction. On a recent one it was only wanted by 28% of the people voting even, the council is definitely not the ones keeping it around

@@itztaytay2 i saw one time the community had 59% vote on tera

@@broidkanymore-zc4lt No, 59% of the general voting population wanted something done with tera. 28% want an outright ban

Mostly cause it isn't creatively bankrupt.

He would know better than I do TBH.

@@jimothycoolbut your knowledge is so vast…..

I'm lowkey kinda scared to see the state of OU if the #1 rain counter gets banned.

@@asierx7047 improvise, adapt, overcome….

​@@asierx7047gen 5 ou all over again...weather wars

live heatran reaction 🐸🐸

We tried Thats what the tera vote would have resulted in

that's not how ban votes work

Iron moth is still around

@@SPZ-gv2on Iron Moth is quark drive not protosynthesis