thats probably how he was getting his cut anyway.eliminates a lot of other ways to pay him that are dangerously easy to leave a trail. and he did move the filing cabinet.. guilty guilty guilty both of them.
And they followed each other on Twitter even though Robbi says she doesn't know Bryan!??? Furthermore, Robbi at that time only followed 300 or so people and one of them happens to be Bryan who stole $15k chips.
sure, ON CAMERA, with all the focus and energy this hand was already getting and likely to get more of. A guy with the maximum possible awareness he was being recorded as he took the chips. Of all the people whose chips someone would pick to steal, wouldn't it be someone who doesn't seem to care about money at all?
@@albondigas9549 I doubt this is how he was getting his cut. I would never agree to taking money off of someone stack at a casino with cameras rolling to get paid. He more than likely was pissed she gave the money back. Didn't agree to giving money back and was pissed. He knew she probably wouldn't give him his share so he took it. Which, is also pretty stupid, because of the cheating allegations, security was more than likely going to have a closer look at the video.
She said it herself she said "I ran it twice because I didn't think Jack high was good enough".. that's all the proof you need right there to know she didn't think she had a three
@@MrDeone365 Idk if youre defending her but every action she made after some hands are very questionable and make no sense, they dont prove she wasnt cheating but very suspicious
The content you’re displaying and your outspoken conclusion is bias, but nice work by the way… if you’re able to put together a scenario like you have, try and put together a scenario where she played the hand as if she felt Garrett was drawing on the river holding a low straight or flush draw. If you can do that, I’ll explain to why she said everything that she said…
If you’re a live poker player (I’ve played live 10 yrs in LA you could instantly sniff out that hand wasn’t straight. Her smiling during the all in decision & the way she called then reacted. If you know manic players that make Crazy Hero Calls they ain’t giving the $ back when put to the test!
You’re talking out of your ass. That’s what you sniffed. She said she though she had 3’s. She confused herself during the hand. That’s why she made the plays she did. With all of your big-time experience, you’ve never seen a player confuse himself during a hand? If you haven’t, you know nothing about poker. Go away.
She says you let me do this off stream as well. She’s already defending herself before she’s even being accused. That’s the part i find really telling.
You also don’t beg a guy to come back to the table if he is a hostile bully that scared you in a dark hallway! 😂 She was scared of him, so begged Garrett to come back and okay and gave him 135 K. Absolutely ridiculous! She does a 180 on everything that comes out of her mouth! HUGE red flag!
It’s obvious now that Garrett was already on high alert suspicion about Robbi and Rip before J4 went down. He had noticed the coordination, collusion and signaling between them, so when the hand happened, it just confirmed his suspicions. Thus his strong and convinced reaction that he had 100% been cheated. They were cheating before the hand even went down and Garrett had noticed it (see Gmans time stamps in his 2+2 report). Just their signaling each other justifies him getting his $ back imo.
@@bigcockedman714 you tell them! I’m sure you thought it much more important to tell a dick joke than to let facts and your lack of intelligence get in the way. At least you are willing to show the world your ineptitude in life, and that is admirable.
All in all, I can only go off of how Garrett has conducted himself at the table in the couple of years I have watched him play. He is human, but 9-10 times I've seen Garrett looked up for bluffing, he taps the table and takes the good with the bad and gets on with the game. I have never seen Garrett react this way, ever. If he thinks that something is up, something is up.
I saw it live and I thought she was cheating before this hand happened. It was like watching postle play. And when this hand was happening, I said to myself, if she calls this, she is 100% cheating.
Not following your logic. If you know Garrett has a flush draw (9 cards left in the deck), straight draw (8 cards in the deck) any of his 2 holdings (6 cards left in the deck) then why risk your entire stack for a coin flip outcome?? The only way this makes sense is if she knows Garrett’s holding AND the next 4 cards (2 burn cards, 2 rivers) Bart reviewed her other plays and said nothing looked suspicious. It’s like no one can believe someone made an insane call without it being cheating.
To be clear, I'm not saying that she cheated. I'm saying that I trust Garrets instincts that something isn't right. The further you get into it, the murkier the waters get. The investigation the suspicion has bought on has raised some red flags. Time will tell either way
Man Garrett’s face instantly turns and then his eyes begin to analyze everything completely unmoving. Dude is the ultimate pro, of all the marks why choose someone who instantly catches on.
Seriously, of all the cash game player’s in the world to run this shit on I mean come on. She thought she was gonna look like hot shit catching Garrett and it backfired.
@Ayo there is literally a bluetooth device under her pants. I have evidence of that too. Watch pokerdough video at 7;00-7:10 zoom in under her tits and look at her pants. lights light up like some bluethooth signal...
His jovial "Good hand" in reply to "How many times are you going to let me do this to you?" is testament to his character. Then one second later and it's intensely controlled, focused paranoia. Imagine the adrenaline! Amazing self-discipline.
@Ayo If she was receiving "good or not" signals that would be abundantly clear upon reviewing her hands, but its not. None of the others are even suspect, so the theory makes 0 sense and people are just giving Garrett the benefit of the doubt, with 0 proof.
Can we all take a moment to recognize why Garrett is one of the best live cash game poker players on planet earth. Somehow he was the only person in the world that was 100% sure of what was going on. And he did it in real time, under the lights, and had the conviction to go all in on his instincts. Beast
I don’t know that I agree with you on this one. I think plenty of people outside his shoes were as certain as Garrett off the jump. Plus, he didn’t technically accuse her of 100% cheating until several hours after the live stream concluded. Very clearly, Robbi and Rip colluded on the AQ v AQ hand, which would have made any attempted lawsuit fall by the wayside had no additional evidence come up in Garrett’s favor. I think that particular hand is what prompted him to post that Tweet and not the J4o hand. Of course this comment should in no way be taken as sight against Garrett. I neither like nor dislike him as a player. I do not play cash and seldom watch cash live streams, but you must respect his game aside from any negative biases that anyone person may have.
Bart, I admit I never really knew as much about you before this whole incident. But after watching all the various takes from amateurs, pros, spectators, fans, and vloggers.... I really feel like yours is a true voice of reason. Thank you for all your insight and keep up the good work.
Thank you, Bart! This is an excellent video! I have tried to explain this to many people, but having an authority like yourself explain it really makes a difference! Any pro who does not do their due diligence on this topic, and comments carelessly (without research) is doing a huge disservice to the poker community. Robbie has changed her story on everything! If anyone takes the time to listen to the livestream, they will hear all of her inconsistencies. One serious 180, is that during the stream she states several times that the money give back was amicable. She says that she asked Garrett what it would take to get him to come back to the game. Now she says that he was a bully in a dark hallway. Ryan, who was an eyewitness, said that it was amicable, as well. Now, Robbi is accusing Garrett of being hostile! So, if he is such a monster, why would she want him to come back to the table?! Especially, if she had to pay him 135K to do so! But, she is defaming Garrett and tearing apart the poker world. And, someone asked her if she had a 3! She said, "No, I do not have a 3!" That was before she turned her cards over! Thank you for taking the time to really think about this, and for informing others. Thanks for all of your awesome poker content as well!
Yeah, Garrett also lied and said she offered the money - but Ryan said he asked for it back, a key difference. Robbi changed her story because, like Dnegs said, she made a "i wont be bullied, and get bluffed by the table alpha" call, without knowing how bad her hand was to do that. After, when she realized everyone was shocked and she started getting accused/questioning looks from much better players, saw an "out" in saying she misread her hand. She was under heavy pressure and questioning DIRECTLY after the hand from the stream "star". After going with the "misread her hand" story she couldn't again flip the story and admit she just gave a fuck it call or she would seem even more guilty. It's really not hard to understand and is occams razor. The cheating theories (multiple, and ever-evolving, completely different from Garrett's original accusations which have all turned out bunk) are so elaborate and sophisticated that they require heavy proof, of which there is none outside confirmation bias.
@@daddyfuse50 You refer to Occam's Razor: the idea that. where there are two competing theories, the one with the fewest assumptions is to be preferred. Compare the assumptions in your post with: "she cheated". You also refer to confirmation bias: the idea that someone is likely to give undue weight to arguments that support their prejudices. On this point I agree - most of the theories (certainly the early ones) about how she cheated are pretty fantastic, and very unlikely to be true. There are plenty of people who have already decided on what they believe, and suffering from confirmation bias regarding these people and events. Could you be one of them?
@@tomonetruth of course not. The least assumptions is she's a dumb player (everyone agrees), and made a, like dnegs said, i "wont get bullied and bluffed" call not knowing how bad the hand was to do that. The most basic cheating accusation claims at least 3 of the people there were receiving signals from the hole cards, 2 of them (bryan and robbi) were too dumb to realize that was a bad spot for it, and cheated anyway. This accusation also assumes that this is basically, unbelievably, the only spot they really used this cheat - for some inexplicable reason chose a spot she was behind as the only time to use what is effectively God-mode cheat at a poker game, because none of her other hands are even suspect. This makes 0 sense.
I’ve heard a lot of talking, show me how she knew what the 2 river cards were going to be. That’s evidence of cheating. From the first 2 cards in her hand to the last 2 river cards played she was ahead in the hand. He put her all in to make an easy $25K, got called and tilted.
The only possible non-cheating explanation I can think of is that she misread her hand and then felt embarrassed so she lied in the moment and tried to play it off, not realizing the implication that such a lie actually makes her look like she's cheating, AND that the chip theft is simply an unrelated occurrence. In my opinion, the only thing that could save her is if they find footage of this guy stealing from other players.
From the beginning of this, I've always assumed that Garrett knows something concrete that we don't know, and that's why he got his money back. Garrett does not seem like the kind of guy who would ever ask for his money back just because he "felt" like he'd been cheated. I think he has concrete proof, and he's kept that private because it makes the casino look bad and he doesn't want the casino to suffer financially. And now that we know that staffer palmed $15k in chips, I feel like that's even more likely to be the case.
If that were true, he wouldn't have played the hand with her, because he asked for his money back immediately, or made it obvious he thought something was amiss. Garrett is a whiny crybaby who was beaten by a woman too foolish to understand any of this, who was playing with money that was given to her to do what she wanted with, 100% of losses absorbed by someone else, 50% of wins shared with her. How is this not a good call on that basis? Any call she makes has some chance of winning, therefore bringing her a profit, and zero chance of costing her anything.
@@joemiller95 I didn’t say he knew there was cheating going on *before the hand.* And what you’re saying about the call is just gibberish; you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@Bobbypinker your words" "Garrett knows something concrete that we don't know, and that's why he got his money back." He got his money back right after the hand. There was nothing concrete that he found out during the hand, he has never suggested, even in his released document, that he found out something concrete during the hand. Therefore, if you are claiming to make sense in your statement I quoted, he must have known the concrete thing you speak of before the hand. When else did he become aware of this concrete thing if he knew it in time for it to be the reason he got his money back, which happened just after the hand? Are you suggesting he found out something concrete between the time the hand ended and the time he had the interaction with Robbie outside of the room? And if so, why wouldn't he have been forthcoming about that in the document he released that detailed his subsequent concerns? Follow the meaning and implications of your own words.
@@joemiller95 Garrett is a whiny crybaby? He's gotten caught bluffing for more money than you'll make in a lifetime (from women/men/pros/recs) but you never see this reaction from him. Ever.
@@superninja1984 He's a whiny crybaby. If he has any integrity, when this investigation is over, he'll give back the money, apologize, and take a much-needed sabbatical.
What i can't understand is how many top level players have doubt or are undecided about this...Bart Hanson, polk, many others. I really do not get it. I've been in the game as long as they have and they are far far more successful than me and I've learned a lot from these guys, but as soon as I see that hand I was convinced it was cheated before reading any Twitter or watching investigation videos. Part of me wants to quit the game bc I feel i must be so off the map. Now a lot of these guys have swung the other way but still, how do u come to any other conclusion? The only evidence you need is the call itself and the fact that she gave the money back, which no one who won a pot fair and square would ever do.
And her story changing constantly and all of the other lies she’s been telling people on different streams about her poker background and personal relationships with people. She lies a lot.
@Bhodisatvas That person isn't on their staff. And no, they've already explained. The police won't prosecute without a direct victim, which can only be Robbie.
She not only has to mistake a 4 for a 3, she would have to mistake a heart for a diamond, because the 3 of hearts is on the board. Weights against the chances of her misreading her hand.
This take that keeps getting repeated is wrong. Tons of people don’t pay attention to the suits of their hands when they are off suit. I am coming around to the idea that she didn’t misread the hand, but I don’t this is all that relevant
@@scottcunning4221 here is another thing if she makes the call on river with a push all in I would say 100 percent she's cheating only one human could do that without cheating it wasn't a skill it was a so called gift freak of nature this world won't see again but it was the turn so in my eyes she would have to know the outcome of that last card reason I say it was run twice even if it wasn't she got no I'd what he had and she could have lost cheaters don't gamble they take for sure wins so to me I can't wait for some to explained to me how some can cheat with out noing the card to come off for a river let's say it was a chop or she lost both nothing happens at all with allegations and many other things
Exactly. And it is amazing how just opening her botoxed mouth actually provided more proof. She said she thought she had a 3…yet only looks once to call off 109K? Where she can barely buy into 5K game with Julie Yorn at the Bike? I mean….she created the trail herself.
"Three of whatever." She looked at her cards for a good 10 seconds. Even IF she misread the 4H as a 3, there is NO WAY she could have misread a 4H as a black 3. That's absurd. Since the 3 on the board was red, she could only be telling the truth about the misread if she believed she had 3D. If that were the case, she would not have said, "three of whatever."
I’ve said this since the beginning: I’ve been playing NLHE for 20+ years, millions and millions of hands. I’ve never seen a person misread their hand, table it, and not have an involuntary reaction of “oh shit.” Everyone says something when that happens because you’re embarrassed and can’t control that in the moment, even if you win. Literally never seen someone have no reaction and then go on later to say they misread their hand. Not saying it’s impossible, but there’s a 99% chance she knew she didn’t have a 3, and then she went on Joey’s stream less than a day later and admitted she “didn’t know if jack high was good so I ran it twice.” She would at the very least be qualifying the fact that she thought she had a three and didn’t know if the three was good, not if jack high was good.
There's absolutely no way she misread her hand. She peeled her cards for 10 seconds and never looked back as she flipped her hand over. She knew exactly what she had...there was no emotion in her face or body language from her to say she misread her hand when everybody else was like, "Jack high!?". Just, what looked like to me, a smug "yup" on her face.
Peeled for 14 seconds actually but only LOOKED at her hand for the first 1-2 seconds. Her eyes drift off into space quickly. So, the peel actually works in her favor for misread. Not saying it is one. But, I'm saying it works in her favor.
It doesn't matter whether she misread it or not. She had zero risk in calling the hand. And since when do people tell the truth about why they made a play in poker?
@@davidgilbert1073 Yes, zero risk. They had an arrangement: he supplies her with money to play, she repays nothing for losses, but gets 50% of any profits. So why not take a chance like that? With a deal like that from her lover/buddy/lover of dimwitted eye candy, where is the risk for her?
Not only is it word salad but she keeps throwing up random arguments that hurt her and doesn't stick with the one that helps her. Which, if it was truth, would be easy to do.
She got her chips back. She was dealing with another player calling her a cheater. She wanted nothing to do with pressing charges against the young man with all of the other nonsense surrounding this bullshit fake cheating conspiracy theory. What is wrong with you clowns? Get some proof or Stfu Are you all do lacking in integrity and the ability to think critically? Please shut up
Someone did an analysis of the way she writes and it’s exactly the same in the so called letter from Bryan. At this point there’s just way to much shit going on for her not to be involved in something.
Her body language after she wins the pot, isn't what people do when they win a big pot. Normally the stress is gone and you feel relief, you physically loosen up. She looks tense AF. Could just be because of her thinking Garret is staring daggers at her. It could also be that she's tense, as she realizes how sus that looked and now has to interact with the people who she just cheated.
She said "my hand is really bad", Garret said "a pair is good". She responded "I dont have a pair" laughingly. She knew she didnt have 3's she said it at the table. And when confronted she panicked and said "i thought you had A high". Which doesnt make sense because J high loses to it. She cheated game over
Wrong. She never said, "I don't have a pair." And if she believes she had J3, then the ace high comment makes sense. She backed that it the interview with Joey when she said she believed he had ace high at best.
@@MusicPhrase are you dumb... The other players asked her if she has a 3 she said no. Garret asked her if she has a low pair she says no. Go watch the video
@@MusicPhrase She was asked "you have *a* 3 in your hand?" She said no, AGAIN, yes this is AFTER being asked if she had POCKET 3's... Both pocket 3, and just " *a* 3" in her hand she audible and visibly says no to. She absolutely did not misread her hand, end of story. Keep believing in Santa and this pathological liar if you want I guess.
@@royfokerpoker1802 From what I've seen, most (including people in the yes cheating camp) disagree with you there and grant that she may not have heard the second question but the No No was still responding to the first.
Another thing is if Robbi seems to be an overly nice, timid and nervous person It would've been a little more believable that she was perhaps too scared to even say she misread her hand, and later on gave the money back out of 'kindness' or 'guilt'. She is not like that at all so there's a personality conflict and it suggests she's lying about why she called and gave the money back.
@Bryan Smith I never said those things. Don't be so quick to judge like you are implying I did. This is just one layer among many that make people lean towards her cheating. If there's just one inconsistency, sure it can easily be explained away via a coincidence, an honest mistake; even two or three is fine. But Robbi has had so much suspicious behavior in the whole situation. At this point you need an overwhelming amount of coincidence to happen at the same time to explain why she did not cheat.
Once they start investigating & arresting everyone involved, they'll all start turning on eachother & throwing one-another under the bus by the advice of their respective legal representatives. Charges will be filed, they will start making statements against the other & the exact truth will come out. Robbi will play the victim, say she was forced into it or something just as dumb that perpetuates the same sexist agenda against men that all her defenders were initially spouting off. The dude who worked at Hustler will say he was treated badly by the company & was tricked into it all by a career criminal he thought was a friend, & Rip (who's probly at the top, & put all this together) will say it's all complete bull-shit, & they had way more to do w/it then they're letting on, which is probably (mostly) true on his part. Just wait. The truth will come out, their stories will crumble, & unfortunately, given the way women are represented & treated in the legal system, because she's a woman vs 2 big scary men she'll probly get off the lightest, while the bulk of the charges will go against Rip & the inside man.
This is so ridiculous. I could tell she was "fake tanking" on earlier hands before this took place. It's really not that hard to spot and even Bart said "what is she thinking about?" She's not, she's faking. Period.
The only thing I was 100% sure about prior that the chip theft thing was that Robbi never believed she had J3 at showdown. The suspect message, "wouldn't not," in the letter and Robbi's tweets. Perhaps the stupidest criminal ever.
i knew it was all a lie when she tried twisting the sexism back on garret by saying he "backed her into a dark hallway. more details to come." so fake and such an obvious ploy.
I would like to ask why she needles him after the hand and then she continues to be rude… he’s just asks a couple of questions after the hand when he’s feeling sick…she pokes at him…she is very unlikeable and comes across as deceitful and and manipulative.
I’m with you. Not enough is being said about that. She is overly rude. It seems to me that she was cheating and then trying too hard to justify to everyone why she made the call. The more she talks, the guiltier she seems.
I have said this so many times too! This was huge in my eyes! She even asked him if he needed a therapist. Then, RIP actually acts like an abusive bully, but she accuses Garrett of being one! (Although, she begged him to come back to the game!) I am glad that Garrett called her on her lie about letting her do “this” to him offstream! He said that she did not do any such thing off stream.
Playing Devils Advocate here… Is it possible that her pride would not allow her to admit the mistake (in the moment) after realizing she misread the hand? Could her ego have influenced her to run with the more self congratulatory narrative (to the table & viewers) that she made a “high level/sic” call/soul read mainly because she was simply too embarrassed to admit she made a mistake on live stream? It reminds of the story my wife told me about when she was a kid at summer camp. They were doing archery and she hit a bullseye… on the wrong target altogether. Everyone was amazed and celebrated her and she was too embarrassed to admit that she wasn’t even aiming for that target, so she went along with it instead because the praise was very flattering. I wonder if this could be the adult version of that to some degree?
No because she said “you give me credit due a pair “ “ I have a pure bluffcatcher” “ I ran it twice to give mi j hi a better chance@ Jeez just watch the video and actually listen
@@Gos1234567 I did listen. He asked if she had a pocket pair. Hitting bottom pair with J3 is way different than holding a pocket pair. I wish he would’ve asked her “Did you think you had a 3?” and let her reply with yes or no right then and there… bottom pair in that instance would be a pure bluff catcher to any of his value hands
It is impossible that she knew exactly what cards he had. She never would have made that call if she knew exactly what he was holding. However, if someone simply told her that she was ahead then she would make the call. She was DEFINITELY cheating by having someone tell her if she was ahead or not.
Yes-Rabia is absolutely lying about “misreading her hand”. It’s the main reason I initially suspected her of cheating. Now with this Bryan having access to the hole cards and taking his cut from her on the table and RIP being a phony con-man etc…
she thought a river made full house was still two pair at showdown an hour before the cheat hand. her live time behavior showed multiple occasions shes not doing any math. her tanking was all obvious acting and made no sense in most occasions.
Hey Bart, great analysis. Checkout out 4hour 3 min mark on the original j4 stream. She tells Rip she doesn’t want production to know there is an interference. And then Rip’s reaction is that he facepalms his face.
One thing not a lot of people are bringing up is the possibility she was under the influence of something. She did not drink alcohol on the stream, but who knows what she did before the show. Julie Yorn said she was pretty inebriated when she played with her at The Bike, so not out of the realm of possibility.
her being obliterated out of her mind is the only alternate story that could make sense. It could have possibly also explained why bryan picked her to steal from (she was so high she wouldn't notice). But, bryan hasn't said that in the twoplustwo thread.
Yes also how someone plays a hand is not evidence of cheating. That is part of the beauty of poker. A drunk crazy person SHOULD be allowed to take your money. It happens all the time. If that isn't allowed than poker pros playing the odds also wouldn't be allowed. Everyone should be allowed to make any legal bet no matter what the reason is. All of the analyzation of the WAY she played the hand is not evidence. Just saying I agree.
Good video Bart. Is there a reason you left out the details Doug Polk posted in his most recent update video? The Hustler employee that stole the chips had access to the card data in real time from the back room, and moved his desk to get a better view of it, and also blocked the camera that would see him by moving a filing cabinet in front of it, sounds like a whole lot of "coincidences" that just can't happen legitimately. And apparently the back room people can't have phones but they aren't screened thoroughly and could rather easily sneak in a device. Supposedly Hustler is taking steps to crank up the security there....
THANK GOD someone made this video pointing this out 18:00... I've been pointing to this as damning evidence against her. Also she didn't say she misread her hand until she came back from the big argument out on the casino floor. I believe RIP told her to say that she misread her hand during this time.
@@MusicPhrase Bluffing in poker is used to the player's benefit. There is no benefit to her at all not to reveal a misread after chips have gone in and cards are tabled. After never mentioning a misread at the table Robbi changes her story to a misread in the casino interview. Then later that same day on the podcast she goes back to knowing she had J high. If she truly misread her hand, a reaction and a clarification that she misread her hand would literally have been the end of it. None of this drama would have happened...
@@MusicPhrase If you play poker AT ALL you know it's 100% the correct thing to say "OH SHIT I THOUGHT I HAD A 3" after that hand. The fact that she's supposed to be an experienced player and DIDN'T say that... Something is really off with that. If you don't play poker or are new then you wouldn't know to say that.
@@olinater5 Of course I agree it's weird for someone to not say it. But, for me to claim someone not saying it makes them guilty of cheating is mind reading and not factual.
@@mattparrish4429 Your statement is straight mind reading. Anyone who claims that 'everyone' would react this way does not understand the difference between speculation and fact. It's not factual to claim that all persons react the same way in any situation. Furthermore, I want to point out that what you're saying is not entirely correct. She doesn't clearly state that she thought she had Jack high or that she thought she had no pair when speaking at the table with Garrett after the hand. Her words are more cryptic, and I'm fine with her playing along with the idea that she had Jack high only and made a hero call, after everyone at the table is celebrating it and praising her. Saying she has nothing to benefit is again a false statement. That's simply your opinion, not a fact. If I can think of 1 reason why she would, then that would make your statement false. The reason would self image. Simple as that. Take credit for a sick, hero call, and look like genius (rather than admitting to misread and looking like an airhead). I agree with your last statement though. I'm fine to agree there. But, she's under no obligation to own up to her misread at the table. It's poker. Finally, why is Garrett the only one at the table, who suspected cheating? All other players stayed and played for hours. This shouldn't be ignored.
She also said "I had the jack of clubs and 3 of.... whatever" is mad suspect. If the 3 was so important, she definitely would have paid more attention to the card and remembered which suit it was.
@@onefatpeon No bro. The suit is irrelevant in that case. I've played over 5 million hands in my career, and I can say that I rarely recall the suits of an offsuit hand, unless I have a flush draw. And no, she didn't check her hand over and over again.
If you look at this from the perspective of her knowing that she is either ahead or behind on each street, then the way she plays begins to make sense for this hand, and her previous hands. However, this hand was literally the perfect hand that played out in such a way that would get her caught.
God moving through the evil scheme of the cheaters with the perfect scenario to crash the scam. like Garrett said 'if she was savvy she could have done it forever".
gotta love your videos and your take on every poker situation, especially this one. I could sit down and watch your analysis on all things poker. Keep up the great videos and work!
Great video. Like you, seeing Garrett’s reaction immediately said to me that we have to strongly consider cheating occurred. Not only does he have excellent poker instincts, but he is always polite to other players, and gracious when he loses big pots.
Calling all in, 130k, with a J4 hand, was enough to make me convinced she'd been cheating. Robbi isn't a complete amateur, because she simply wouldn't be at that table if she was. And I never believed she had misread her hand. So there was no other explanation, except for cheating.
Bart, great video and I agree. Here's something to think about. Who told her to say she misread her hand since that's the only thing that would make sense? You mentioned it on stream immediately that she might've misread her hand. Someone IN PRODUCTION heard that as well and was able to relay that to her and that's when she changed her story in the interview and when she got back to the table. Even Andy just shrugs it off and says "That makes sense" when she tells the table she misread her hand and thought she had a 3. This just proves someone WITHIN production was helping her out before, during, and after the hand.
two guys at the table where chiming in excuses and alibi's that were totally ridiculous non-stop from the get go. trying to shut it down. complicit in my eyes. their words were the entirety of her evolving reasoning.
There are three types of people defending her actions. 1. Trolls. It’s the internet after all. 2. People who stopped understanding poker beyond what beats what. It doesn’t mean they are dumb, just ignorant on a subject they don’t understand. 3. Morons. It’s the internet after all.
@@fomori2 I'm a former high stakes pro. I'm not a troll, a poker ignoramus, or a moron. I agree that it's easy to just troll, so I'll challenge you to a live streamed debate to see who's more knowledgeable about poker and more knowledgeable about this investigation.
Thanks for the update Bart…. Agree and pretty much everything you said… but let’s also mention it was a 100k + call …. I play low stakes, nobody’s calling that shove for $100 let alone 100k … AND … she did not play like a beginner the rest of the steam … …🙏🙏🙏… if she was cheating she did pick a super bad spot
The fact that she also said she gave the money back cuz she was confident that she will get em all back blows my mind she wasn't lying about getting em all back lol
My 2 cents: I don’t think she cheated. I think she Punted. (If she lost she could just rebuy?) “asked “3’s no good?” To get a read on him. No read given,so she flipped a coin, and got lucky. The guy that stole money, just happens to be a scumbag and finally got caught because of her play. Chair vibrating is her foot tapping the chair. Now her raise on the turn I can’t explain. Her Giving the money back, is because she’s not playing for the money. So it’s “like ok your mad ? Here’s the money back to get it over with.
She definitely didn't misread her hand. She looked at her hand before she called, and the 4 was on the bottom, so it was the card that was the easiest card to see. (However she did have a big pair. 🙂)
It is entirely feasible that she was so preoccupied with making such a call that when looking back She was just going through the motions of looking without actually observing" Completely convinced of her holding! To say it were coincidence that J3 in fact was the previous Hand is 1.2 to 98.8 " YES Possible but Unlikely given the exact scenario and circumstance.
She has lied about her marriage to Mr. Lew, her J4 hand, the ring she was wearing, her relationship with Bryan, her knowledge of Bill Perkins, and a slew of other trivial subjects.
What Robbi did is actually a very good thing because it’s exposed a much deeper issue. Hustler casino has several security vulnerabilities in almost every sector of their game and they should be properly addressed before high profile players return to the game.
There's no way she misread her hand. There's nothing she does or says throughout the hand or afterwards that suggest she misread her hand and thought she had J,3. Too many inconsistencies and explanations that just don't make any sense.
This is what struck me. Fair to say Garrett is bluffing in this spot a lot of the time, but she is losing to most of the hands he is bluffing with. Then she referred to her hand as a “bluff catcher”, which is clearly incorrect. She is either lying about that or doesn’t understand what that term means. Listening to everything she says at the table and in the interview afterwards, I think she knew exactly what she had, but decided to tell the story that she thought the had J3 to cover for her call. She forgot to keep her story straight, however. Thing about the truth is that it’s much easier to keep straight…
I'll give you a lot of credit here, i actually gasped out loud and said oh my God five times to the point my girlfriend told me to shut up, but you commentating on it just as shocked as I was rather than trying to push it under the rug was definitely a very difficult, yet, commendable thing. Much respect for that being in the situation you were in, especially..
Giving the money back is all the evidence I need. Who would give up $130k if they had done nothing wrong? Robbi freaked out after the reaction of Garrett and wanted to put the fire out before it became an inferno. She failed. She is so painfully stupid that one of her explanations for calling is because she thought he had an Ace high. Brilliant logic. "I know he has an Ace high so I'm going to call with Jack high.'
Bart, your accuracy on her peeling back the hand after he shoved is not entirely correct. If you watch her eyes closely, you will see that she only glances at her hand for 1-2 seconds out of the 14 seconds. This doesn't mean misread, but it does work in favor of a potential misread (as does her saying are 3's any good, as well as the J3 the hand before). These things do all work in favor of misread, which is why claiming 99.99% no misread is kind of silly. Also worth mentioning is that, once she sees the 2 river cards hit, she no longer is thinking about her 3, if she thought she had it at all. That's because it's counterfeit. So, she now knows she has Jack high, so flipping over her hand to see that she in fact had J4 instead of J3, while still a surprise, is less likely to get an "omg" reaction because it's fairly irrelevant at that point. Obviously, no reaction to that is very unusual, but to say that all people would react with "omg I thought I had Jack 3" is baseless because it's mind reading.
That casino is a disgrace.Hiring ex criminals and bringing on lowlifes to the stream,not shutting the game down after accusations of cheating. The investigation won’t prove cheating,too late now.Almost impossible to prove if not caught red handed
It's simple, no more rfid card reader, camera,ect on the table.Whatever would show anyone hands that are being played live. The only way to keep a stream alive for viewers would be the cards that are tabled face up. Just the eye in the sky. Whoever would be in the booth commenting on this game could have notes knowing what cards were tabled and then share the graphics, only in post production around the next day or so after this game where there's 7 figures on the table. A casino atmosphere is so tight when it comes to any camera, blackjack, roulette, whatever nothing. No cameras, can't even check a text, you have to get off the table. For some reason it's okay when half million dollar pots are being viewed by any human in the casino. Get rid of it.
What she is is a DISEMMBLER. She has a manner of speaking such that she almost never makes straightforward declarations. She "backs over" almost everything she says so that she can tell any story she pleases on top of what she has previously said. She's EXPERT at it. She's practiced dissembling for years IMO. It's accurate to say that she lies about EVERYTHING and about NOTHING.
Also have to acknowledge that there’s multiple videos that very much appear to show Robbi and RIP signaling multiple times. Also the side angle video of her stomach definitely shows her stomach shaking due to some device likely, and neither leg moves. There’s no doubt to me this guy Bryan, her and RIP were in on this. To think anyone, but especially a novice player would call that hand with a Jack high is beyond nuts!
The most blatant point of this entire hand, is the speed with which she reacts when Garrett turns over his hand. I don't think we can put her in the category of completely smoothbrained noob who cant read her hand or the board, when she instantly says "Wow! - how many times are you gonna let me do this to you?" the second after Garrett turns over his hand. Are we supposed to believe she cant read her own hand OR the implications of the boardtexture on the turn, while using a timechip, but somehow manages to do so in a split second on showdown?
Robbi is a serial liar. She lied during her PokerNews interview last week that she got drunk with her twin sister the night before the J4 hand game. We now know she was drinking with Robbi and RIP for 7 hours that night, not with her sister. Robbi is a compulsive liar and very, very likely a cheater.
I think something was very fishy… I believe she somehow knew her hand on the turn was ahead (which it was - jack high over 8 high). That explains her re-raise and if she she did have some indication her hand was ahead it could explain her all in call. Her shifting attempts to explain her actions isn’t helping her at all. It feels a lot like she is searching for an explanation people will buy not giving her actual reasoning. If she had said before the call “I think you have a small suited connector had”… or even after the hand… but she was not that quick to come up with that and fumbled for her excuse. This is also on the casino big time. This is their game and if she did somehow get an illicit heads up that her hand was ahead it is on them to thoroughly investigate and uncover how and who and plug that hole.
I didn't think you mentioned it here, but knowing the equity % (Aka she didn't know Garret's hand, but knew the equity she had in that moment through cheating) would be enough for her to be able to make calls and be green by the end of the night.. It would also explain why when she was called out, she started talking nonsense afterwards. Also - "she's peeling back her cards and looking at them" and then she said "I misread my hand".. My ass.
I think she got an old fashion no-tech peek at Garrett's hole cards. Check out the way he looks at his cards. I think she earlier got a peek, and that was she was alluding to when she said, "That's twice you let me do that to you."
Another case against misreading her hand: a 3 looks nothing like a 4. If it was a 2, and she claimed she thought she had a 3, ok, maybe so. If she had a 4 and claimed she thought she had a 5, great, it happens. But the fact that a 3's pips form one line down the center of the card, (as does a 2) whereas a 4 has "2 sides" on each side of the card, it makes it really almost impossible to make this mistake of "misreading" her hand. This is popular in baccarat, players will count the sides of the card before opening it for a bit of suspense.
I think initially during the hand she thought she had a 3. But after she called she realized she doesn’t have a 3 but it’s too late. She already called. But when she realized her jack high is winning she took the opportunity to say that she read garret perfectly and called him with jack high because it would make her reading abilities look great on tv and she was gunning for garret all night. Just my 2 cents.
That would be impossible to believe. She looked at her hand at least twice with the second time being several seconds. She was asked during the hand and before the reveal if she had a 3 or a pair and she said no. There's absolutely no way she misread/thought she had a 3.
Dude... I don't think she misread her hand either, but your entire analysis is making the ludicrous assumption that she is playing this hand (and poker in general) from the same poker IQ and strategy that you are. Why on earth are you assuming that she is playing rationally and logically? Whether or not she cheated, her actions during the hand, and during all of this aftermath, are completely irrational and defy common sense over and over and over again. Trying to suss out the truth based on "well if she (insert cheated or not cheated here), then why would she (insert irrational action and speech here). There has been no rhyme or reason to anything that she has done.
If you look at Garrett's bluffing range (only), and you start removing combos like AcKc, AcQc, etc., until her equity reaches ~40% (or whatever is required by pot odds) what does that range look like? and how many combos are in it compared to Garrett's entire bluffing range?
Yeah, 8,7 of clubs would be the only hand in his range. 7,6 maybe but it's really only 8,7s. The only hand she can beat is 8,7s and what a coincidence...
WIth all the new stuff coming out, including Bryan stealing her chips, I’ve come more around to the side of something not being straight with the hand. But I don’t think the misread is as improbable as you are making it out based on what she said thereafter. It really looks like she is a little stunned and embarrassed when she tables her hand. She makes a weird facial gesture around that time. She could have misread her hand and wants to be taken seriously and is too embarrassed to admit the misread. If that’s the case, a lot of the nonsense she spouts about the hand afterward can make sense.
The most important thing in this incident at this juncture is whether or not Robbie presses charges against Bryan. If she does so, all cheating allegation will be off since Bryan will be thoroughly invested in the process of DISCOVERY. If Robbie decides NOT to press charges, cheating allegation will stay strongly against her. We will see what she will decide to do.
You don’t think she would pay him off? If they are in it together she probably just presses charges and then pays him off. Also asks the judge to let him off easy with parole or something and that all she wanted was her money back. Pressing charges vindicates no one, and he has no incentive to tell if Robbie is willing to pay him that money behind the scenes. He can easily blackmail her at this point and allow her to press charges.
It’s necessary damage control. Of course your not going to routinely pontificate about how you play the game.. but as Bart explained, you have to let people know you aren’t cheating at the table. This was not poker play where you are establishing range and mixing it up. This is either A) you’re a complete moron B) You’re a thief or C) you misread your hand.
One thing I can tell you is all of those guys would have said that they misread their hand immediately at the time because they would have understood the gravity of the situation.
@@zerodarkthirty703 Or she thought he had a combo draw and that he couldn't have QJ suited because she had a blocker. So the other combo draw was 87s, 86s or less or KQ suited. So she beats the lower end of combo draws and has a real blocker.
Bart, a 'green beginner' would never ever contemplate the call with J high because they would just look at their hand and think 'I have nothing to call you with'. Even if they had A high or K high, a novice player wouldn't ever contemplate a call in my view. It's unfortunate that you didn't show in your video the other two occasions when she is seen lifting up her cards to check her hand. I watched the video back and she peels up the corner of her cards pre flop, on the flop and again after Garrett shoves. There may have been more times too, which weren't captured on the stream itself.
The MOST damning thing in my mind is still the fact that she gave the money back. If I had won a hand legit, no matter how stupidly I had played it, It would never in a million years occur to me to give the money back. I mean, giving the money back is something you MAYBE do if a total beginner makes some kind of procedural mistake like tabling their hand early or mucking a winner in a 1/3 game. If you luckbox a hand against Garret effin' Adelstein for 130k you sheepishly stack the chips and say "better lucky than good." Add in the whole theft business, and this thing stinks like a turd-stuffed fish in the sun.
Isn’t it possible that she was embarrassed about misreading her hand? I was so embarrassed about such things when I began playing that I never wanted to admit such things.
Agree. To use her comments at the poker table is insane. I literally was all in yesterday on A flush draw and two people asked me what I had who were not in the hand. I said 7-2 off suit ( i really had 3k hearts). Other opponent who called had ace high flush draw also. I caught a 3 on the river and won. I guess that means I cheated since my story didnt match when In said I had 7-2. Insane. Je went on tilt and asked what I was thinking. I said. “I knee u were bluffing”. Tilted his ass lol.
She is lying. Every single statement she makes she contradicts later. It is so obvious that she is trying to reason through logic that she didn’t actually use. Someone told her she was good and so she simply made the call.
i dunno why but i couldnt stop staring at the fact that your camera placement was directly over the dealers and kinda made it look like you were the dealer had me laughing my ass off for some reason rofl
