Work in progress. Try every hand and falling prey to exploitive thinking of yesteryear is still to easy. Translating it consistently in pot odds calc as well. This was excellent. Good motivation for more work. Obviously.
When you've read the books, watched the lectures and understand the concepts but still go completely blank at the table. I feel like the Germans have a term for this but much like using ranges while I'm actually playing, it escapes me.
My friends and I just recently started playing poker almost every time we see each other, so this helped me understand the basics of range enough to get an edge
I been playing hold'em long but played poker longer , u never learn about ranges and odds n everything and juss really start learning about my friend told me about you about a year ago and I still have a long way to go .. keep up the hard work Johnathan and your team !
Do you think you could post a video about narrowing our opponent’s range as the hand advances to the later streets? Like what their range looks like when they check-raise the flop/turn? When they check call the flop and turn? Thanks for the awesome helpful content
Excellent. I am going to watch it a few more times. An interesting follow-up would be do do that same hands from the other player's perspective. It seems like a bigger river bluff was needed. I'll try that math myself -- which means I need to think about ranges from the other perspective as well -- but it would be great to get the master's answer as a follow-up.
Jonathan Little, thanks for great explanation. My questions is how i can remember or calculate the ranges during online game? Is there any tools for that, or practises?
I was obsessed with RYE but there's always something about RYE that makes me feel inferior and implants doubt in my head. You Sir, KNOW how to speak from a relatable point of view. You have absolutely great content and as soon as I can afford to do so. I will purchase whatever I can to in order to support you. In the mean time. If you have patreon. Please post a link. At least I can support your time invested in these videos bit by bit. Thank you so much for your content.
Nice video. Calculating the Pot Odds is pretty straight forward. But calculating the equity of opponents river bet is a bit confusing. The way you calcuated the equity on the river seems logical, but I haven't got it at all so I crosschecked with Flopzilla :): So I putted KJs vs. his bet (33,AQs,ATs-A9s,A7s-A4s,KQs,KTs-K9s,K7s-K4s,QJs-Q9s,T9s,T7s-T6s,97s,76s-75s,65s-64s,54s,AQo,KQo,KTo-K9o,QJo-Q9o,T9o) and considered the board, thus I get a completly different equity as you calculated. KJs has an equity 56,79%, villain has 43,21% Where is the mistake ? Thank you.
If you look at the screen with the bluffs on the river you'll notice the opponent is bluffing with a lot of missed spade draws. Look at T7s for example, there's a small S in the upper left corner indicating that the opponent is only bluffing with the T7 of spades, not all combinations of T7s. When you're on the river you don't need to use a program to calculate "equity", you just look at how many combinations you beat and how many you lose to. In this example you lose vs villain's value hands and beat his bluffs. He has 56 bluff combos and 102 value combos. 56/(102+56)= 0.354 = 35.4%.
So I understand how I'm supposed to guess their range in this kind of spot, but what I dont understand is if I'm actually supposed to calculate how much equity I need AND HAVE to calculate if I have to call. Like how I am I gonna accurately calculate that without Equilab if the opponent has this wide of a range. I'm always gonna be off by quite a lot so its pretty much guessing either way. My math goes more like this: He has a lot of missed draws + his range is generaly very wide + how often does this guy bluff + my hand looks weaker than it is = call. Obviously I look at the price I get but I dont calculate how often I need to win. I feel like that wont help me because I also dont calculate my equity in these kind of spots since their range seems just way too wide to accurately guess it. Am I thinking wrong about this or do I understand it somewhat correctly that you just use this as guidelines in most spots? I do understand that it is necessary when you have a flushdraw and so on but there it is easy to understand how much outs you have and your equity is pretty clear. But in spots like this? Would appreciate an answer since I've honestly never understood this. Thank you for your content.
Honest question: I frequently play the SAME range differently in the same position, especially Ax suited and small pocket pairs, sometimes 3x raise, sometimes 10x raise, perhaps with any hand other than AA, KK, AK. Say 77, I'll raise enough to get the low SPR player all in, otherwise I'll raise expecting to set mine. In the typical cash games, the situation (limpers, callers, 3-bets) and opponent type are more determinate than range. Only slightly exaggerating, but in late position against the right players, I often do better if I don't look at my cards! It's THEIR range I'm concerned about.
This is so cool. You were just some quiet kid on my TV screen playing poker at the Mirage. Years later, you show up in the algorithm. Congrats man on all your successes and keep up this great coaching for us Neanderthals!
Is this action solver available with a premium Poker Coaching membership? I am trying to figure out my range and where I am making blunders on betting vs checking post flop
The problem with always betting your premium made hands and checking your marginal made hands is that when you get to the river after checking turn, you never have a stronger hand than a jack. So opponent can exploit you by using a massive overbet sizing on the river, and can go as thin as Q2 for value. The way the solver deals with this issue is that it always checks back AQ and KQ on the turn, to punish opponent for betting huge on the river with a queen. You can even be trickier than that, check back nut hands on the turn, induce a big overplay on the river from a queen, then raise all-in. You can't cap your range when you check.
Every time you check, even if you check back some amount of nutted hands, you typically cap your range. That's okay, because the opponent only has 1 street to bet, and if they want to make your marginal hand types indifferent, they have to use a huge sizing. The river will typically improve some portion of your range as well.
Yes, they have to use a huge sizing, that's my whole point. If you cap your range to a jack when you check, opponent will overbet 3x pot with Q2 or better for value, and a lot of bluffs since his value range is so wide. The EV of his entire range goes through the roof, since for him Q2 now has the exact same EV as the nuts.
I liked it...I subscribed to it...I have no idea what you are talking about. Is there a book out there that talks about this stuff so I can read it s....l...o...w...l...y? Thanks!!
Opponent will show up with set of 8's and 2's on the river from time to time as well. Seen weak/passive players check/call till the river with stronger hands like bottom set, then when its more than obvious they have best hand (they're paranoid about flushes/straights) they bet on the river like this one did.
Great video. But I play mostly micro stakes and I feel that sometimes my opponents don't even think this way and I lose my focus and stop playing this way.
Against who you are playing? Your cards and the flop cards doesnt matter, what matters most is who you are up against. If the other players are NIT/passive players, most likely you are drawing dead. If you c-bet there, only someone with A or 4 Will shove/call so Just fold
I use what I call the 'one card rule' i.e can the villain beat me with only one card. Here any single A beats you and any single 4 beats you so, I would say the answer is no. As you c-bet it becomes much less likely that the villain is bluffing, as opposed to if you had just checked the flop to induce a bluff. Even if you had just checked I wouldn't consider calling unless you had played many hands and the villain was clearly way over bluffing.
Question, how do you remember that table in your head though when playing live and all the percentages? Like you literally just used a calculator to compare the values.
I liked the video, but I really prefer also cbetting some eights and duces on the flop, because otherwise if a second eight or duce hits on the turn your opponent can just over run you. So mixing in some A8s and A2s is a logical conclusion even though they are marginal made hands.
On the last slide, we assume that our opponent will bluff failed draws but check marginal made hands. Why is that? It seems to me (a beginner) that you would play for example ATo and ATs the same way on the river if you didnt hit anything. Can anyone explain the difference to me?
@PokerCoaching so if the BB player was good he should've either betted pot or ripped all in for the bluff? This would have destroyed your pot odds and forced you to fold?
At 7:48, when I hold 76s (spades), with two spades on the board, I know I'm drawing to a flush. But how is 76s (hearts) a draw on a board that has one heart and only one card coming? There is no gut shot straight draw. What exactly am I drawing to? 77 or 66?
At 3:00, after the flop comes out Q 8 2 and we're holding KJs, the breakdown of the range of aces we could be holding all make sense to me, with two exceptions: AKs and AJs. Are these two considered marginal made hands because we have high card and face card kicker?
It gets even weirder: Why is AJs a check but ATs and A9s are bets? I mean what's the difference between a Jack, a 10 and a 9, they are all gapped connectors for straights? Solvers do weird things and people don't know why. *shrugs*
Is it bad if I go play Texas Holden ($1/$2) and double my money in 30 mins then leave? Should I be playing longer making more money? Today I played for 35 mins and won 2 small pots and an all in profiting $230. Anyone thoughts on this?
@@PokerCoaching hey Jonathan. I emailed support maybe 3 days ago about becoming a premium member, but I haven’t received a response. Just FYI. Loving your content. Going to become a much better player as I dive into your master classes and premium content!! :)
Anyone know the official ruling for the following scenario in a cash game? Player A bets. Player B raises. Player C goes all in for less. Player A calls. Both player A and C have huge stacks for potential side pot. After sorting out side pot on the flop, dealer then burns and turns both the turn and the river by mistake. Never tapped table in between either just burned and turned twice as fast as possible. No chance for anyone to stop dealer. Snap turn, snap river with no option for two remaining players to act on their hand on the turn. What should ruling be here? Floor rules to leave all cards with no turn action at all, then continue betting on river. Explanation I received was that none of us "stopped" the dealer from prematurely exposing the river. Even though we all agreed there was no real chance to do this because of how quickly it happened, and it was clearly dealers fault.
I think the turn, second burn, and river should be shuffled into the deck. Deck then gets cut and the turn is dealt. Betting happens, Then the burn and river is dealt.
Thank you for the reply to my off topic question. I agree with you and thought the same. First time I had flopped the nuts in a few weeks lol. Great video as usual.
One of my biggest problems, is that most of the players are so bad, (i play low limits) that they dont or cant be even thinking about what i could or should have. Most of them only care about what they have. (Like top pair bad kicker, cant fold to 4card straight or flush)
Ranges only makes Sense for middle/high stakes. Micro stakes we have players that only play KQ+ so If a ace hits the flop 90% of the time they have It. They also dont know about ranges so even If you have nothing and they have the lowest pair on the board, they Will call. Only when we face decent players we can really use ranges to its Full potential
"Players only play KQ+". That seems like the definition of a range. So you actually know the range of that opponent. Seems ideal to me. "Adjust to your opponents mistake" if I may quote Mr Little.
@@MrChris1571 I do, thats why I actually Win money in micro stakes. But its kinda funny How they play, they are extremely passive to the point of "If I bet preflop with KK and they call and the flop have a A and they bet, Im 100% drawing dead which makes easy folds". Sometimes I find good players and change my strategy completly. When the table have more active players, I call with strong hands and re-raise them when they raise in late position which makes them lose Chips regardless of calling or folding against me.
I raised with A5 of diamonds a dude called me with 64d the flip goes 6J6 and In another hand I raised with AsQh and the same dude called me with 84h and he flopped a flush. This was a 2/5 game. Ranges don’t exist
It does, but How often they Will get Lucky? These players lose If they hit nothing, because they dont know How to play. If they are calling with nothing, raise big with good cards, and fold to any agression, simple
I guess I must be dense. I understand the concept of range by itself and equity by itself but how are you going to calculate the combination at a table of 9 players after each street? Seems daunting to me.
