Poland & Lithuania: A Centuries-Old Love-Hate Relationship 

As a Hungarian i can assure you that not all of us are pro Russian on the contrary. do not confuse the Hungarian people with our corrupt leadership, glory to the Ukrainian people.

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Just want to say, I love Poland and the Polish people, much love from the UK ❤

​@@thecyberdork776 In Polish society the love for Hungarian nation was extremly very visible very often since forever. It was something amaizing. When I was young kid, I was many times in Hungary for holidays. Your swimmingpools are the best. And I rremember well how Hungarians were treating Polish People. I remember one old man sitting somewhere in the center of Miskolc and when he heard that we are Polish he started to showing love to Poland. For Polish people history is the most important thing, to not let it happend again. We were destroyed, betrayed and killed. (I know what tragedy happened to Hungary because of Treaty of Trianon). Im sure the love of Polish people to Hungarian people will not be destroyed. But if Poland will see any kind of love, closer friendship with Russia it will be like a national knife stuck in the back. We will love you anyway, but this love will be transformed into wounded one. Everybody has right to have its own policy, diplomacy. Moreover I know how depended Hungary is if we are talking about energetic resources. But still Russians are murdering people. Still 4 milion of Ukrainian mothers and children had to escape to Poland. What is interesting, the right-wing Polish government is now trying to talk little about Hungary, very a little, but anyway the right wing people are conscious. két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát

As Lithuanian I see Poland as brothers and allies. What heapened bad in the past between us is forgotten. I am proud that we had Commonwealth.

I am from Poland and whole my life I had Lithuania in my heart. Like a family. And I would literaly cry if Russia do something to hurt you. Moreover, I would support truly and with all my heart helping you if Russia invaded you. And if you had to escape your own country I would open my house for you. From mine Polish perspective, for Poland family is Lithuania, Ukraine, Slovakia, Czech, (but I dont like their relationships with Germany), and Hungary ( but recently I am very affraid of their relationship with Russia, I AM SHOCKED), UK and USA.

And vice versa 🙂

…glöm inte Lettland och Sverige 🇱🇻🇸🇪

Greetings from Russia

@@theguywhoasked3096 Matushka Rassija. Pozdrowienia dla braci Rosjan! 🇷🇺🇵🇱

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I was studying with lituanian people for 4 years and this is the most bad time in my life. They hate poles and always try to cheat or offend you. I met also good lituanian people but they are minority.

Vilnius is deffo worth visiting. Its a really cool city. Well, its also worth to note that Vilnus (or Wilno if you like) was one of the most important cities for Poland/commonwealth throughout its history. As for actual Lithuanian people - they dont seem any different than Poles if you ask me xd... I mean surely there are Lithuanians who dont like Poles but ffs, there are also plenty of Poles who hate like Ukrainians, Germans, Russians etc. These resentiments

​@@stasiek1859 Jesteś botem ?. Odpowiedz.

@@zhangzy123 Mariusz, jak się czujesz? Odpowiedz.

@Adam Nieniewski The Baltic people are not slavs. Even if i do count them as Eastern European cuz they are located in the Eastern part of Europe, they're not slavs-

Greetings from Poland

@@ukaszwalczak1154 slavs is not etnic group but languange

I've been to Kaunas this may, and lots of people spoke some polish while learning about my nationality (bolt driver, lady selling tickets, and so on), which was a positive surprise for me. I've learned some lithuanian just to get by, but usually people were very supportive when they've seen me struggling with the language 🙂 Aš norėčiau važiuoti į Vilnių kitais metais, tai aš mokiausi lietuvių kalba. Sveiki iš Suvalkai!

​@@ukaszwalczak1154 Dude, there is no slavic ethnic country, like there is no germanic ethnic country, you have so many mixtures, even in Germany, East Germany is half russian still if you want to be some purist. It is just a linguistic group. Like latin. Also, there is no Baltic people in ethnic sense of yours as today ethnicity is mostly used as equal to nation, but ofc it could be well, geographic term.

Podobno tarcia są w dużej mierze w samym Wilnie, gdzie polska mniejszość to jakieś 16% w mieście i 20% w całym obwodzie. Także mam wrażenie, że nawet jeśli szukać Polaków o złej opinii na temat Litwinów, to prędzej na Litwie niż w Polsce.

@@MurdokEXTRA Moja rodzina mieszka w Wilnie i żadnych tarć między Polakami a Litwinami nie ma, ja tez milion razy byłam w Wilnie i nikomu nie przeszkadzało ze jestem z Polski….

@@Misiathecatgirl To nie wiem. Mówię tylko, co przeczytałem jak próbowałem się rozeznać w temacie.

@@MurdokEXTRA Na kanale "Fifty na Pol" jest film o Polakach z Wilna, gdzie sami zainteresowani się wypowiadają na ten temat.

Personally I don't know anybody who hates the Polish. We actually like you:))) Hugs from Lithuania

Yes i thing the same, it goes so far that i was suprised that some Lithuanian doesn't share my full on positive felings towards us poles (i was 16-17 at that time). Then some time i dug why and i got all the drama around Vilnus and tensions and tragedies aroud thous areas) Big love to Lithuanians lets keep together :)

@Vaidas K Still, Lithuania arguments are kinda one-sided and bit unfair. Lithuanians tend to be angry about Lithuanian elite using Polish language in past but nobody forced them to do that, they wanted to use Polish language. Today nobody is forcing us to use English language, yet we all use it. Following that logic in 400 years some Lithuanians will be angry that Lithuanians today, especially the elite speaks English.

@@damian4926 First of all, I love Poland and Poland is our neighbours, allies and great country in general. But I'll add some points of Lithuanian perspective, just as overall context in order to explain perspectives in general. So here it goes: With totally accepting and appreciating Polish culture, it certainly lead to leaking of Lithuanian culture, like if Polish as being lingua franca of Lithuanian nobility, basically any kind of accomplishments are being credited to Poles, like even first President of Poland was Lithuanian nobleman while his brother was signaturer of Lithuanian independence, they even were samagotians (zmudz), which is even more farther than being nobleman from Vilnius (Wilno), what automatically was being seen as Polish. And as it's always emphasized that Vilnius was Polish just by language criteria what as I mentioned before Polish was lingua franca, leaves almost no nobility to Lithuania. Polonization. Population wise, there are much more Polish than Lithuanians and as Polish being lingua franca there was a possibility just to loose Lithuanian identity as only villagers used Lithuanian language as their primary one. It's not even Poland's fault, but areas around North East Poland have ethnical Lithuanian land which by mixing through the centuries eventually became Poland. One of ethnical regions of Lithuania is called Suvalkija because of Suwalki while you know it is Poland now. Lastly, Poland has stolen Lithuanian capital during interwar period and many Polish colonists were brought to that region and somehow during Soviet Union people on those areas were never in favour of Lithuania as country, many of those people spoke Russian/their own version of Polish, but not really Lithuanian language, which was kind of similar case as having Russians in Estonia who were not fans of Estonian leaving USSR. These are just some points just to explain why sometimes it created some misunderstandings between our nations, we truly love Poland as our allies

@Vaidas K But you can't blame whole country because some groups say something. You should base you opinion on official Polish state relation to Lithuania rather than what random people say. I always had impression that Lithuanians dislike Poland because Lithuania elite used Polish language in past, but remember that the king and dynasty was Lithuanian. Also if Poland would not unite with Lithuania, most likely Teutonic knights would make a deal with Moscow and attack Lithuania. Lithuania would have to fight both of them and would probably lose, and Teutonic Knights would take control over Lithuania and eradicate all Lithuanians like they destroyed the original Prussians. Lithuanians and Lithuanian language would stop existing, same scenario if Moscow would take over Lithuania. PLC saved Lithuania from that fate despite ups and downs and that Polish language was more common. Sometimes I think that Lithuanians don't appreciate that.

we have so much in common my Nothern friend that we should start call it commonwelth again

Polish myself, I'm living not so far from Lithuanian border, and I've been to Kaunas this may. Our cuisine is almost identical (cepelinai, potato pie and potato sausage, meat and rice wrapped in cabbage leaf), so I've felt like at home. Also, people were really happy to hear that I've learned some lithuanian before going there, even though I still had to use english sometimes. It was a great trip and I hope to visit Vilnius in the next year 🙂 Sveiki iš Suvalkai, ir ačiū už grupė Antis! Aš norėčiau mokiausi lietuvių kalba, tai atsiprašau už mane klaidų 🙂

@@aven7gg213 so you could again steal our capital city?

Relations where little destroyed when Poland back after 1 world war and they national leaders decides back old kingdom size in all cost even that cost where salty to neighbours. But we all must understand that was times after 1 world war and people where diffrent. Still we got difficulties with Balerus this country is one big joke.

Why dont we resurrect Commonwealth ? I mean that was some idea to have. Big nation with lots of possible influence, we would just need Kaliningrad and its all good baby. I can fight for that.

You can count on as if orcs will try to attack you. We thought together against Teutonic knights and we kicked their asses together. Together we strong

@@piotrsie5465 A funny side line is that the Teutonic knight were invited by Polish from the very start. No offence, just an interesting fact.

@Arūnas Sl But not to stay for ever and plunder and attacking others. You right that, they were invited at first.

@@arunassl876 in fact it was not exactly "the Polish", but only a local prince of Mazovia, who invited Teutonic knights - and they were supposed to fight against pagan Prussians, who pestered him, not pagan Lithuanians... ;)

Firstly, it is the responsibility of Lithuania and in its interest that the city of Poland in Lithuania should have such a status that no Russian agent would win her over for his cause. As a Pole, I am not afraid of the Polishness of my compatriots in Lithuania. But I believe that Lithuanians should care for their Polishness as much as Poles. Because in perspective you still have to choose "" Russian brothers. "Greetings from Polska and all the best from brothers from Poland.

Political alliance of the Polish minority with Russian minority is the effect of prosecution of that minorities in Lithuania. It will be very difficult to break off that alliance after 31 year of violent discrimination and very harsh treatment. Base on experience and the most recent history, it would be very stupid on the side of the Polish minority to exit out of that alliance.

Agree, brother.

@@rebuzz6866 Mate, you literally have no idea what you are talking about. These people are not Polish. The true Polish people in Vilnius region do not align themselves with these people. Please look up "Waldemar Tomaszewski" and "Zbignew Jedinskij". They run this so called "Election Alliance of Poles and Russians", but in reality are nothing else than Russian agents. These two people literally speak Russian, wear the Koloradka (the black-yellow stripes that symbolise Russian agression in Ukraine), and Jedinskij has openly spoken out in support of Putin for his war in Ukraine. These people DO NOT SPEAK POLISH (they speak a sad mix of Russian, Belarussian and Lithuanian and consider it "Polish"), watch Russian TV programmes and support Putin. They literally have nothing to do with Poland. This party has a criminal investigation launched against it in Warsaw because Poland donated money to them to encourage Polish culture. Guess what they did with that money? Oh yes: wasted it and laundered it :D. It's sad that it seems Jedinski's facebook was blocked for hate speech so you can see for yourself just how "Polish" these clowns are. The true Polish people in Vilnius actually hold high seats in the Lithuanian government and are in good relations with the people. This is why your own government ignores this party: they have learned themselves that they are a joke. Have you been to Šalčininkai/Solecznyky? The most Polish city in Lithuania? The entire region has signs in both languages, and has a huge ass "Welcome to Šalčininkai" sign in Polish. Polish people can use Polish letters in their passports and there are shitloads of Polish schools: what discrimination are you talking about? It's nothing but Kremlin's attempts to distance Lithuanians and Poles. It's a load of bullshit.

@@rytisliaucys3444 Because PL government was ignoring Polish minorities and for over 25 years, did nothing to help them out in dealings with Lithuanian governments, Polish and Russian alliance was created. Did you already forget, special units of Lutheran nationalist going around and taking down any signs in Polish? Did you forget about issuing heavy fines for Polish language in Public? Did you forget the reprivatization scams? Did you forget closing of Polish schools? Did you forget abut educational reforms? Did you forget about redesigning of election regions that way, so Poles won't hole majority votes? What PL government wasn't able to achieve in 25 years, the alliance did in a fraction of the time. This indicates that it would be stupid for Poles or Russians to dissolved that alliance. BTW, stripping Polish minority from the right to theirs own names is not over yet. Issue was referred to the Constitutional Court of Lithuania because: "Polish spelling of names is huge damage to the statehood and territorial integrity of Lithuania". Haw oppressive can you get??? Tomaszwevski and Jedzinski are not Polish, LMAO.

nobody talks about lithuania in poland lol

@@craftah We talk a lot about Lithuania, mostly in schools where we talk about our past when we were united with Lithuania

@@craftah bro I've seen u under Tense videos

Oh yes We do. "Litwo, ojczyzno moja...

@@user-xz4ck8zs2u lol we r best trols eu

Lenkas supistas

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I'm a Pole in Poland, and... I too have nothing against Lithuanians.

And that's the way to go - I also have nothing against Lithuanian. I met few. I'm in good relationship with them.

@@rafalszachnowicz2831 who cares about nationalities

Its more of a historical dispute, especially with the polish leaders and how they "looked down" on us and on our culture up to the interwar period, where they invaded lithuania and its major cities, which we never got back. some of the cities were majority pole, but poles have always been a part of lithuania, and we never saw them as outsiders, its the leaders who did.

@@nesbistrampol Yea, true.

@Adam Nieniewski did you miss history lessons or something?

Dziękuję :)

@@Kancleriss Nie ma problemu!

I am from Poland and whole my life I had Lithuania in my heart. Like a family. And I would literaly cry if Russia do something to hurt you. Moreover, I would support truly and with all my heart helping you if Russia invaded you. And if you had to escape your own country I would open my house for you. From mine Polish perspective, for Poland family is Lithuania, Ukraine, Slovakia, Czech, (but I dont like their relationships with Germany), and Hungary ( but recently I am very affraid of their relationship with Russia, I AM SHOCKED), UK and USA.

@@voyageur8208 God save us all and don't let this happen.... Love you, guys, all the best for us all 🤝🤝🤝♥️♥️♥️

Ačiū labai iš Suvalkai 🙂 Man labai patinka jūsų kalba!

Love to Ukraine from Lithuania ❤️

Keep up our brave Ukrainian friends. Greetings from Poland.

Vilnius has never been Polish. It was just very polonized. But among the fairy tales, stories about "Polonization" should be put in. The cultures have simply mixed up and the Polish language has been and will be the leading language in the culture of Central Europe. There have been attempts to replace it with Russian, but who can like and respect this language and nation?

@Squilex777 ok but who cares?

Everybody in Poland know that Vilnius is Lithuania and that nothing can piss off Lithuanian as Polish Vilnius. If you ask them why they are so angry with Lithuania, you may get a totally different story. Did you ever try to swap it for Kraków? LMAO

@@mariuszlech9173 Vilnius officially become Polish as result of the Constitutional Union on 3 of May 1791. Lithuania and Poland become one undeviable country. That Union give Poland the right to resurrection in the borders from 1772. Unfortunately, in 1918 Germans and the Lithuanian Bolsheviks didn't agree with that and had different plans.

@@rebuzz6866 Even though they formed the union between two countries, Vilnius was still part of Lithuania.

It is hard to escape Russian cage, nobody can help you without the risk of great war, but we all hope your country will manage to do that. Nobody think badly about Belarusians in Poland, we know you are enslaved or fooled. Before the war, you were always welcomed in Poland. My father was telling me that you are the closest nation to ours. Be brave

trust me we may throw shade at Belarus but we mean your government not your people. we stand firmly with your people and hope that you will prevail against the regime

Most people in Poland understand your situation. We love people of Belarus. I pray you became free from Russia aswell.

Your comment makes me so sad, but I don't think they left you as if it was their call, USA, Brits and French after WW2 left whole Eastern Europe to Russia and to manage how to escape by themselves. But I get you. And wush you all the best, it is sad really.

@@josipag2185 i don't think that WW2 consequences are all that relevant here. we (Belarusians) are sorta responsible for electing that arsehole back in the 90s. now we shall be responsible for getting rid of him.

PLC was only good for Poland. This is what i often see Polish people forget, for Poland it was perfect for Belarussians, Ukrainians and Lithuanians…not so much, Polonisation was rampant and Lithuanian language spread went from south of Kaliningrad all the way to Smolensk now Lithuanian language goes from Klaipeda to Vilnius not to forget PKN-T (Polish pro-Soviet rebel state) that was formed in eastern Lithuania due to Tutejszy who are basically Ethnic Lithuanians(or Belarussians or Ukrainians) who were Polonised. Due to these things no Lithuanian would want such union to come back. For interwar our war was a typical war: 2 fascist governments fighting for some stupid historic claims murdering each other’s civilians just because they hate them. Thankfully both of our nations are in NATO and EU and we can now truly live like brothers and not enemies. 🇱🇹❤️🇵🇱

@@5Penkets xD How so? It's you that chose it. No one forced Jagiełło to marry Jadwiga... Also no one forced you into union...

Yeah no it was only good for Poland lmao, Lithuania might as well have not existed in the commonwealth

@@slec22 imagine arguing and placing blame on someone 500 years after something happened, cringe

@@5Penkets This is very sad and disappointing perspective of seeing common history. Not seeing the benefits of the Union for both parties is simply unfair, but I'm not going to get into dispute here. I just regret that Lithuanians feel this way..... knowing that many Poles would be willing to fight for Lithuania if necessary.....

Dziś piękność twą w całej ozdobie Widzę i opisuję, bo tęsknię po tobie. Panno Święta, co Jasnej bronisz CzęstochowyI w Ostrej świecisz Bramie! Ty, co gród zamkowy Nowogródzki ochraniasz z jego wiernym ludem

Tyle, że to nie o obecnej Litwie.

@@user-mh2uj7ns6hdzieki cpt obvious

Suwalki nature is so so pretty, lands of fairytales! I loved it, even though only through a window, it has left a long lasting impression!

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@Adam Nieniewski bruh

@Adam Nieniewski a na jakiej podstawie niby Wilno należy do Polski?

@@papughhWilno stało się polskim miastem na podstawie Unii Konstytucyjnej 3 maja 1791. Litwa i Polska stały się jednymi i niepodzielnym państwem. BTW, dzięki tej unii nie tylko Wilno, ale wszystkie miasta na terenie całej Litwie się stały polskimi miastami. Unia ta dała Polsce podstawę prawną do odrodzenia się w granicach z 1772. Unia konstytucyjna obejmowała również teren Ukrainy.

@@rebuzz6866 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

From the area ✌🏼 Census does underreport us but Poles are definitely the majority in Sejny

Yes, but it wasn't like this until 1920 when Poland occupied these lands. Lithuania territory, that was was occupied by Poland back then was forcefully polonized, especially in 1928-1939. Lithuanian schools and organisations were massively closed, children were not allowed to speak Lithuanian even during break time at schools. Every day young children had to learn a song "I'm a young pole". If you officialy declared that you are lithuanian, it was almost impossble to get a job in the institutions.

@@KONSOLIUS yup pretty true, most back in the day just declared Polish. And in Sejny the discrimination was the worst that’s why it’s strongly polish now. Most forgotten what language their grandparents spoke

@@Comrade_Marius Wybaczcie nam tę niegodziwość, mieliśmy mentalność zaboru.

@@szczepionzabijaka8476 Za co ty ich przepraszasz. Według Litwinów największym osiągnięciem Litwy przedwojennej była lituanizacja ludności polskiej w okolicach Kowna. Jakoś nie słyszałem żeby Litwini kiedykolwiek za to przepraszali, przeciwnie szczycą się tym. Mieszkało tam bardzo wielu Polaków. Litwini też byli pod zaborem i mieli jak ująłeś "mentalność zaboru". A kogo nie przerobili na Litwina to jak Niemcy przyszli to szaulisi (litewscy kolaboranci) wymordowali pod Wilnem w Ponarach. Szacuje się że było od 80 do 100 tysięcy ofiar. Ukraińcy zdają sobie sprawę z mordów na Wołyniu, Litwini udają że nic się w Ponarach nie stało. Ot, braterskie porachunki.

Žverelo, Žuvialo, Reksnis, Kodis, Jodko, Kiškel', Voišnis, Survilo, Voišvilo, Andruloic, Janoic, Dudoic, Gaidis - common surenames of local Poles. Will they feel more Polish when now they are allowed to write Żuwiałło instead of Žuvialo or Woisznis instead of Voišnis, I don't know.

@@fidenemini111 If they want to do so - yes, it could make them importance to be Żywiejko rather than Žyvieyko. And all the signs on the sky show that indeed it is important to them. So either you can ignore reality - or as it was in the past: try to "fight" it - or you can just admit that it will change nothing for worse, to accept your reality. Giving right to have your own name (whatever written or spelled) is just human right. Giving right to humans is just something making us more human, than - let's say - "rusiki mir" approach?

@@fidenemini111 Let's rewerse it and force you to write your name and surname in Polish. I wonder what wil your reaction be...

@@slec22 If I went to live in Poland, denounced my nationality and asked for a Polish passport, then of course I would need to conform to the rules of the country I want to be a citizen of. Same practice is done in a lot of countries, for example in Japan - if you want to become a Japanese citizen, you have to change your name to be able to write it in Japanese letters, which often times butchers the name horrendously. Simple as that. You live in a country, you want to be a citizen - you conform to their rules, in this case - the rules of language. I would not have a problem with writing their names in Polish in Lithuanian passports, but I am worried it will open doors to others wanting to write their names in whatever language and alphabet they want claiming discrimination... The problem with this is that it will be very difficult for, let's say, a clinic or a school to enter the name in the system. There is bound to be misspellings and other mistakes, like missing a single stroke writing an unfamiliar character, so what if that happened in a legal document? The problems that would cause could potentially be devastating. That's why I think it's not a good idea. It's best to stick to the national language for the national passport.

Same here too, I live in Vilnius and all the Polish I've had the pleasure of meeting, were nice people. Polish are really cool in that unlike Russians of Vilnius, they do not demand everyone to speak Polish and they speak Lithuanian so well that sometimes I get surprised they are Polish. Russians, on the other hand, plainly refuse to speak Lithuanian.

Cool to know at least some poles think about us ):

@@botronas6039 I’ve never seen someone talking bad stuff about Lithuanians, maybe some nationalist nutjobs, but that’s a fringe part of the society

As also a Pole, sadly, no, Poland often forgets about Lithuania unless it's something big. Like, we have a saying about friendship with Hungary, but we don't have one for Lithuania-

Osobiście też tak uważam. Litwa cały czas „pachnie” antypolskością. Coś musicie z tym zrobić bracia Litwini!

well there are xenophobes everywhere. most lithuanians dont give a f to be honest

@@Pablo_oobo TO nie żadni Litwini ani bracia .... to żmudzini którzy ukradli nam naszą metropolie ..przed nami to była mała gówniana wiocha zabita dechami ! Polacy władowali czas siłe pieniądze i rozumy i oręż a później jeszcze przemysł i rozwineli z tego dziadostwa potężną metropolie i zbudowali Wilno od "podstaw" - prawdziwi Litwini żyją na terenie obecnej Białorusi - stalin mieszał dziełił nasze narody ile wlezie bo wiedział że gdyby nie daj Bóg niemieli głowic a plan pilsudzkiego czyli stworzenie Uni Polski i krajów Bałtyckich i Rusi by wypalilł - byli bysmy siłą która z łatwością by ich pokonała. Oni po prostu chcieli by się odciąć zabrać nam miasto które stworzyliśmy swoją krwawizną i powiedzieć nara ! Oni powinni byc przeorani przez ruskich i to tak strasznie ze z kwikiem pognali by do nas a tutaj powinni zastać tylko zamkniete granice i strzały pod stopy to samo z resztą Banderowcy. Nie wiedza i niedouctwo oraz naiwność moich rodaków przeraża mnie ! Kiedyś denerwowałem się jak ktos obrażał mój naród - dziś wiem ze to niestety cześciowo prawda - jesteśmy narodem owiec....

@@joew9690 Straszny jesteś i niesamowicie jednostronny, ograniczony w tym co piszesz. Twoje opinie są dokładnie tym co uważam za obskurantyzm i krwiożerczy nacjonalizm, obcy idei Rzeczpospolitej Obojga Narodów oraz nawet Piłsudskiemu (nie mówiąc o dzisiejszej Polsce). Błędy językowe, ortografia wręcz tylko potwierdzają, że gdzieś został w edukacji i Twoim wychowaniu popełniony błąd, przez co stałeś się pożywką dla głupich i niemających uzasadnienia ani w polskiej historii ani w polskiej strategii polityki zagranicznej idei na skraju faszyzmu / wojującego nacjonalizmu. Wstydź się!

Hi, where can I find volume II and III, as it looks like only volume I is available, thanks.

@@chatter87 the author actually planned to write and publish a trilogy about PLC, but so far only part 1 has been written. indeed a really good book, I look forward to the next parts ... if you're interested in the history of this part of Europe, I recommend you ,,Bloodlands Europe between Hitler and Stalin" by Timothy Snyder.

Even though you wanted initially to explain to Polish society that (paraphrasing) “it is not, as it is presented on my own video”, than you successfully contradicted yourself. Congratulations!

Dont know, but if you have a problem with polands just say that, and dont blame country for that

Yay

Tbh i forgot that Lithuania exist in first place. And that's funny, because they are quite wealthier than us.

I heard some time ago that a lot of the tension nowadays comes from the polish minority in Vilnius. Very loud about their nationality apparently though I wouldn't know. As someone from a southern region of Poland my takeaway from history lessons in school was that Lithuanians were total bros back in the days of Commonwealth but after WWI there wasn't really any will to cooperate and it wasn't really ever explained why. Nowadays I have a better grasp on what actually happened between our nations and my view changed to: It could have went so much better ... we had opportunities to make things right way earlier.

Am Lithuanian and this is the only bad thing I have heard from step dad that Polish did. Accordingly by him "stealing our capital" which for me it's all in the past. Poles and Lithuanians need to be strong together.🦾

Oh, how can you trust someone who has already betrayed you?

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Czechia got more attention due to the lawsuit that costed Poland 1 billion euro. Unfortunaltelly our neighbours seem to only benefit from attacking Poland. Seeing how poor negotioators Poland has only encourages future hostility.

"Lithuania was richer than Poland for the whole history" no it's not true. Why are you lying so much?

Oh, you forgot how you betrayed and occupied Vilnius? And do you have any other questions? Even, you slander the polish language like the bolsheviks..by forcing..! And you think we will forget it? NEVER!

@@arunasz2443 it aint that deep. Until i met lithuanians i didnt know there was any animosity towards us. In polish schools the commonwealth is portrayed very much as an equal union your other choice was russia considering that lithuania was very underdeveloped in history. Im pretty sure they would not include you in their name such as russia-lithuania, and instead fully russify you into their empire.

But they don't consider you to be their brother. They have a lot of hate towards us.

@@mateuszkmiec754 Some do, some don't. We don't have toxic people? Lithuanians have changed, most young people view things differently.

I am Polish, but I have family in Lithuania. My grandparents were Polish nobility and had an estate near Kiejdany. In 2021 I went there with my brother to see the remains and graves of our ancestors. We also met with the remnants of our family. - Only the oldest people still spoke Polish. The younger generation no longer spoke Polish at all. Interestingly, they all claimed to be Lithuanian, not Polish! This surprised me a lot, because they were descendants of the Polish nobility. Ha, ha - Lithuania is afraid of Polonization, and in fact it is the Poles who are undergoing Lithuanianization. :)

Bringing those 4 countries you mentioned together equals basically to restoring historical PLC once again, although in a new form. That would've been insanely cool, and from the safety perspective that's very good solution against a certain threat in future, but there are just so many problems that need to be solved in order to achieve such a union/alliance, especially with Ukraine and Belarus that sadly I cannot imagine it happening anytime soon

Im Lithuanian and Jogaila didnt want to rule the Polish Kingdom. He insisted to bang the polish princes just to get the army for the crusaders to fight whit. ;DDDDDD

You're wrong, Jogaiła was a king only through Iure uxoris rule. They were not equal, Jadwiga was supreme in this relation. After her death Jogaila had hard time trying to keep his position, hence he married another Casimir The Great granddaughter just to keep the throne ....

@@marcinterlecki6021 Miał ten status ale był traktowany jak król. Po śmierci Jadwigi zostal na tronie co było w naszym interesie i okazalo się słuszną decyzją . Dla mnie Jadwiga i Jagiełło byli czymś dobrym w naszej historii . Po tym co przeczytałem do tej pory o nich to wydaje mi się że się ciekawie uzupełniali. Oczywiście dużo też nie wiem ale mam nadzieję że było między nimi ok. prywatnie i u władzy.

Anna Jagiellonka również była królem.

Exactly, Lithuanians think we care aboit them but there are plp in Poland who don t even know where Vilnus is.

Don't use the word Commonwealth with them. It turns otherwise reasonable Lithuanians into smug nationalists. It would be far more productive if Polish plp when discussing cooperation with Lithuanians used other terms which would not have any connotation with Polish dominance. They seem to be afraid of that which we in Poland don't usually understand. On the one hand we re presented as a threat o the other as stuped, backward plp in contrast to progressive scandis etc. Catholic fanatics as opposed to pagan Balts. I ve even seen one dude's comment suggesting that they shouldn't have christened themselves in the 15th century and preserve their pagan culture. As if the punishement for infidelity weren't to nail somebody to the bridge by their ball sack.

The best comment. I am heartly agree with you!

​@Adam Nieniewski ​What I'm saying that it's not fair to judge people from any countries based on what their predecessors or relatives did in the past. They can't hold such responsibility. Each person should be held accountable for their own actions, and that's a point of reference for me. As for your question whether I would talk to Auschwitz guard - yes, I would talk to anyone who's not closed-minded and willing to have a civil conversation with me. That's what I do pretty much on daily basis in my activism - talking to animal abusers. But instead of throwing jabs at them, I listen to them, try to understand them, and then then simply talk to them about my views. That's how humans learn and grow. I would even talk to Hitler or Stalin if I had a chance. I doubt I'd divert them from their ways, but I'd be willing to try.

Like a Pole I have nations like Lithuanians, Czechs, Slovaks and other, in my ass.

That's really a fault of Lithuanian government which practiced forced lithuanization policies and lack of reaction from Polish government, which may lead them to soviet nostalgia, when lithuania didn't exist and Poles had more human rights than in independent lithuania.

​@@Oberschutzeeboth sides did wrong

@@Oberschutzee I dont frankly care but every single borderline genocidal act of one side was a revenge for a borderline genocidal act of the other side

@@Oberschutzee best argument i ever heard, I thought we were looking for arbitrary and objective truth, not soaked in propaganda of hyper nationalists on both sides

We don't talk about them that s why xd.

From yours photo I can see you are real Lithuanian by ethnicity!😅

@@dovydasstasionis Ačiū?

Barbs from Geography Now! said that in Poland episode.

Nope, Lithuania is a divorced wife that have been abused for a loooong time and now have official business relations, nothing more.

@@Vhisper Why you think so?

@@grlt23 read my main comment of this video

@@Vhisper there was no divorce...

True

If someone knows the context it's not strange...

"Litwo, ojczyzno Moja, ty jesteś jak zdrowie

True...

The 'portal' is a truly great idea! Come visit the other side of it soon!

May be because you deserved it.

Im a Lithuanian, this hatred to Poland comes from a combination of PLC and midwar times, I would say nor Poland or Belarus even go close to the hatred that Lithuania has for Russia, which IMO is completely acceptable and understandable. I don't think there is etreme hate towards Belarus, but the dictatorship does not help, nor the close ties with Russia and also false claims of history.

@@vytilostudios6110 I mostly hate Russia (well not hate but just don't like it's government and Russian nationalists). And I think that's common for Belarus - not liking Russia

Grand Duchy of Lithuania - most of it was territorially and demographically Ruthenian. Therefore, today Belarus may consider itself more the heir of the history and tradition GDL than modern Lithuania.

@@cetus4449 It spread from the Enthnic Lithuanian lands, it's Rulers and Elite were of Enthnic Lithuanian, there for Lithuania proper having a higher position than the ruthenia region, there for making modern Lithuania more equivalent to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, also having Its Capital and first Stone castles(meaning evolution was done in Lithuania proper first, meaning that it was of most inportance)

Cool!

Mickiewicz wrote in Polish and yes it is very true that Pilsudskis was Lithuanian, and? What is your point?

@@mindaugasmeller5319 He was Polish, but was born in what is now Lithuania, near Vilnius. That is, in a sense, he was Lithuanian. ;)

@@GluonToo his parents where Lithuanian nobles from lowland who moved to Vilnius

uważali sie za Litwinów w sensie Mickiewiczowskim, a nie etnicznym... Litwin wg nich był takim samym Polakiem jak Krakowianin, czy Mazowszanin

@@andrewcarpenter5703 To niezupełnie tak. Raczej w grę wchodzi podwójna narodowość, a nie bycie Litwinem jako jakąś kolejną polską grupą etniczną. Moi przodkowie czuli się Polakami po języku i kulturze, a Litwinami geograficznie i historycznie. Jedno drugiemu by nie przeczyło, gdyby nie pier**lony nacjonalizm.

@@maciekszymanski6898 Tylko, że ten nacjonalizm ostał się niemal tylko na Litwie. To Nowolitwini zawłaszczyli sobie pojęcie litewskości i spuścizny Wielkiego Księstwa Litewskiego, a przecież równe prawa do niego mają też Białorusini - czego nacjonaliści litewscy nie chcą nawet słyszeć. Rozbiory oraz rosyjska i sowiecka propaganda zrobiły dużo w kierunku podziału narodów i jest zrozumiałe, że każdy chciał na siłę ratować swoją tożsamość. Tak się jakoś złożyło, że Litwini w pewnym sensie zagrali najostrzej i to się tam jeszcze ostało. Wszystko rozbija się o to, że pojęcie "Litwin" ma naprawdę kilka nakładających się, ale różnych i uprawnionych znaczeń.

Dlaczego nagle każdy próbuje upchnąć wszystkich w jedną z dwóch kategorii - albo Litwin, albo Polak. Proponowałbym się pogodzić z faktem, że człowiek może być Polakiem i Litwinem, nie tylko jednym lub drugim

@@Casual2270 Też tak uważam. Niestety, w 1918 roku małorolni ze Żmudzi i z Kongresówki uznali inaczej.