Very good Kris, may be you could add few more shots from this trip? May be some information about how drafting helps etc.? Nevertheless, it is very nice to have both parts perspective...
Based on starting on 100%, ended first leg with 17% and then charging 75% to 92% and then ended up with 22,6kWh/100 km on 609.6 km you should have 16% left based on 86.5% This indicate 13,7% heat loss in the e-tron. I see it as a sign that this upgraded e-tron does not have 86.5kWh available. I have seen it on others also.
Good observation. 🙂 There will always be some heat loss while driving, and some more while charging. There's also other factors like temperature, calibration and degradation that comes into play. The nominal/net capacity is under perfect conditions with a fresh- from the factory battery. My experience is that charging on HPC's on the route can increase the heat loss, because of heat build up during the charging session. Especially with the e-tron, where you often find yourself ending the charging session at 150 kW, the car will be working hard to get rid of that excess heat for a while after you've left the charging station. You can see it on the actual consumption number, and that the SOC goes down even faster. The battery may even "shrink" when it gets colder. Lastly, we don't know all the decimals, so let's break it down again: I know Kris started with 99% and he may have ended the first leg with 18% or close to that. That's 81% used on the first leg. Then he added 74% to 92% and ended up with 2% at the finish. Let's round that off to 3%, based on the fact that he had 9 km. left on GOM. That means he used 89% on the return. 81+89% is 170% used total. That should be 147 kWh if the battery has 86,5 kWh net capacity 22,6(5?) kWh/100km on 609,6 km is 138,1 kWh. Missing 8,9 kWh. That's 6% loss. Not that bad, with a large portion motorway and charging at a HPC on the route.
@@omelvold if I update the number with starting on 99% and ending and 17% it is still10,7% loss.(172% used) I belive this is the Møller testcar they i have done the same calculation earlier and also then it was much lover available battery without any HPC charging. If i change the calculation to 83.6kWh available battery i get 5% this is more aligned to what I see on drives like this. I have yet to see any calculation of any upgraded etron to get 86.5kWh available. On my I get 83.6 available if I drive in range mode.. (reduces heat loss)
@@electrichasgoneaudiIt’s a bit hard to calculate, but I think 10,7% loss is still too high. We don’t know if it’s 17,0 or 17,9% or actually over 18% SOC at the first stop, Kris wasn’t sure. And demo cars can be mistreated- or at least poorly calibrated because of a lot of short runs and topping up the battery. In Bjørn’s video he said Kris started at 99%. Was it then.. 99,5%, or maybe it dropped to 98,7% before they got going? Did he end with 2,0 or 2,9%? We don’t know. 🤪 And was the consumption 22,60 or 22,69? 🤷🏼♂️ This will drive you mad if you get too hung up on it. I think it was closer to 5% loss than 10%, which is fine on motorways with charging stop. I never heard of someone getting a full 86,5 kWh out of the battery either. But that’s perfectly normal. I don’t think any EVs are different?
I'm really surprised that the P2 only finished, essentially, 10 minutes behind the Audi with the great charging curve that Audis have. Man, 10 minutes is diddly, and would not be a consideration that would put the Audi over the P2 if I were considering buying one of these two. edit; ..Polestar engineers have told some people, including Kyle Conners at Out-of-Spec Motoring, that the P2 charging curve will be improved via OTA updates in the future.
Do you know if Mercedes, Volkswagen group and BMW are working on a EV hatchback? Like: Golf, A1, A klasse, 1 series. The sporty\cool looking hatchbacks. The ID.3 does not count :) At the moment i am using a e-Golf 2020. And i feel liek they are focussing on SUV types :( which i dont like.
Very nice video. Just like Formula-E racing, every KWH counts. Ideally you should arrive with 0% for perfect timing. 2% is damn close to perfection though. Congrats. You are now a pro racer among EV drivers.
You got some really good consumption - good job! Especially compared to the PS2 if you take into account how big and heavy the etron is!👍🏻 /Fellow etron owner
Awesome win and collaboration. Efficiency wise I kinda fancy the sport back over PP2. What's your take on the infotainment between the two? More power to your channel my friend.
Nice video. So it looks like the Polestar 2 came out with less range, less performance, slower charging and more weight than the competition for the same price or more than a Tesla? 😒 I don't really get its selling point, is it the looks? The Audi looks arguably better and the Teslas have nicer materials and more futuristic designs...for less money.
Unbelievable that Polestar had such a jumpstart with Volvo on this hybrid and battery powered motor game and they are getting showed up by the Germans. VOLVO stop playing games and step it up! You have the money.
You said that e-Tron’s virtual mirrors are not very good. Did you have any issues with them?. I’m asking since I’m thinking about buying an e-Tron but can’t make my mind about mirrors.
No issues, and I talk about it more in the video that drops tomorrow. But they just aren't as good as normal mirrors, and I find parking with them hard. I wouldn't get them
@@KrisRifa But they have bigger viewing angle than normal mirrors i don't know how is parking hard, plus its easier and faster to move them around or even zoom in our out xD
The PS2 is also a smaller car, so it should be cheaper. Also, because of its size it should be a lot more efficiant than the etron, but as we can see its not which is very dissapointing.
To everyone who want that Audi e-Tron first watch on youytube "Why don't buy Audi Etron before you've watched this owners video" of Audi Etron (2parts available) ! This all electric cars is sh..t ! It's only apparent savings on fuel because you have paid for all that miles/kms upfront in car price also the same with ecology all its emissions are moved from car to place where that cars are manufactured which are much more damaging to the environment. All of this EV's is only marketing and fake and also another reason to rip off the customers.
