Is there a label on the tracker saying it belongs to the police and if found must be returned? The trackers I've seen only have some obscure numbers on the outside and no indication of their purpose. Assuming it does not, then the car owner cannot be certain just what it is for and should be able to just remove it and destroy it however they can.
@@stevelehto Pro Tip #1: Don't talk to the police. Among other possibilities, you might accidentally supply them with facts you don't need them to have.
I came out of a grocery store about a year ago and noticed a man walking away from my car, since my car was parked away from any other cars I thought that it was suspicious. The next day I looked under my car and found a tracking device and I couldn't think of any reason why the law would want to track me. Somehow and I'm not sure how but it ended up on the mayor's car.
For all you know it could be criminal try to see when you are not home so he can rob your place. They abandoned it on your property, It is yours now, same as penny on the street, no claim can be made.
This reminds me of a friend who was a firearms dealer and also had a license to manufacture explosives. An ATF informant came to his business and attempted to buy several guns and regulated explosive items without paperwork. The dealer sold him several antique guns and black powered guns without paperwork. He also sold him binary components. He charged the informant ten times what the items were worth. The man left and minutes later two ATF agents arrived. The gun dealer laughed at them and told them that he did everything legal and they agreed. The ATF agents then asked him for their buy money back and his said no way jose. It was a legal salel and I am satisfied with the outcome.
@@lordmadmunki1918 But they would have to spend money to PROVE the tracker was not the proceeds of a crime. It wouldn't make much of a point for something as small as a tracker, but maybe if you could seize a police station?
@@MonkeyJedi99 since when did the government care about saving money? Joking aside, because this device could be used in court, it is heavily documented, such as purchase information, calibration, etc.
I also want to point out that if the cops put something on your car, demand it back, and then arrest you for possessing it when you go to return it, that would be one of the most cut-and-dry examples of entrapment I've ever seen.
Given that entrapment is de facto allowed in the US (despite the law saying otherwise), what would that change ? If a police officer posing as a prostitute in order to provoke someone into offering money for sex so they can charge him or the police setting up a trap in the form of a manipulated car they then they hope to lure someone to try to steal isnt entrapment, then I dont know what is.
@@knes167 In both examples the police causes situations were the law is broken - that IS entrapment. That the corrupt US justice sytem rules otherwise just proves its corrupt.
potentially causing harm to a random stanger, is that your idea of a good time? probably an empty but idling cop car. or some allied security vehicle in the area.
Steve, if state Leos put a tracker on the car with a warrant within their state, does the warrant still have jurisdiction if the tracked person leaves the state?
@@stefanfrankel8157 That only works in so far as no one else with a secondary vehicle could be there. Which is kind of an impossibility. They would also point out the fact that you would have more then enough time to get from a to b, do the crime, and get back to a.
@@stefanfrankel8157 You're assuming the tracker doesn't have a sensor to detect when it's been removed. If you start removing and replacing it repeatedly, you've just dug a hole for yourself.
@@stefanfrankel8157 Maybe the reason they needed 5 guys to install it was to make sure she knew it was there. I'll bet the never even thought about looking for the car that was following her. Or maybe she still hasn't found the 2nd tracker.
In 2012'ish I found a tracker on my vehicle. Drove a few states over for vacation, and attached to a nearby freight train. Never heard anything about it afterwards. True story.
Was the tracker under the dash? It might have been a remote "kill switch" used by many "buy here pay here" car dealers. Under the bumper, it would be more likely to be a law enforcement tracker.
Have you filled a missing tracker report, When last did you see it What was it wearing Was it under adult supervision Has it run off before We have a 10 year policy before we can investigate as it may return to by itself. Should we find it we will not tell you for fear of incriminating ourselves. Have a nice day NEXT
I used to attach and recover GPS units in the busy parking lots of the mall, “bad” neighborhoods, gated communities and so on. I was usually going solo, although at times I would have a spotter nearby to warn of someone approaching. A friend of mine was installing a unit and dropped his wallet in the driveway. The subject of his investigation was kind enough to bring the wallet, complete with his PI license inside, to his house…along with the tracker. Good times.
Under the precedent of Civil Asset Forfeiture, because the police attached it to the car without the owner's knowledge, they forfeit any civil claims to it. They can pound sand in my book.
Yep. They left it on your vehicle. It’s yours to do with as you wish. I’d be busy pulling it apart because I like to know how things work. It’s dust once I get bored with it.
It would be taken off and placed on a semi truck. It’s getting to where more and more law abiding people are not trusting Police anymore. It’s sad. Most are good people. Not these in Thai story. You touch something on my car it’s mine. I’ll tear it up or put it where oil can leak all over and inside it. It’s getting worse and worse. In 10 years tome 90% of the nation will hate all police.
I was thinking the same thing, if they affix it to your property at what point does it become yours? I really like the idea of attaching it to a police car but that probably breaks some law.. nevertheless I laughed really good at the thought! The only other places that I think would be really fun are a county judge’s car, the mayor’s car, the police chief’s SO’s car....still probably not a good idea but an entertaining thought experiment.
when I found out the police put a tracker on my 4 wheeler. I found it since it was the only clean new item on my old quad that was dying. as soon as I found it !!! I sent the tracker a quad to scrap it. and I made sure the scrap yard destroyed my quad fully. I had the cops show up a few days later looking for my quad. I told them it was scrapped 3 days ago. And they said they were gonna charged me for destruction of property they put on my machine. That is the only reason I knew it belonged to the cops !!! and there was no warrant for it either !!! and the next one i found was hidden in my e-bike. only reason I found it they put screws in the wrong holes. and my plastic was clacking on the frame saying it was loose.
One of my coworkers was driving a tractor trailer. He stopped at a light and saw someone put something under his trailer. He called the cops. After bomb tech removed it it was determined that the guy who put it there found out his wife was tracking him.
@@JadeyCatgirl99 wonder if you could charge the police a storage fee for their property being stored on your property? I would probably just leave it on my vehicle and take long drives out to random spots and sit for and hour or so then drive to another random spot, rinse and repeat.
I know of someone who found one on his car. So what he did was everyday he drove by a truck stop on his way to and from work, stopping there to get gas and what not. So while getting gas after finding it he stuck it on a long haul truck and watched the truck hitting the freeway heading east. We're 2 states in from the west coast. Don't know where it ended up but I like to think it was somewhere on the east coast
A warrant is only needed if the car's power is tapped into. If the tracking device is powered by it's own power supply, a warrant isn't needed. If someone keeps their vehicle in a closed garage, a warrant is needed to enter the garage to install any gps tracker on a vehicle.
The TRACKING device was on a pole. They KNEW WHERE IT WAS. They asked her to BRING IT IN. That was entrapment. They would have arrested her on the spot.
That's when you say! Say what what are you talking about so it's on my car? No it's on the pole where you put it! What are you talking about a tracker for what! Well you need to go get it & bring it back! What to who? Well the police! when? Well now okay but i still don't know where? We told you the police! Ok i get that but a telephone pole where? Then don't show up! Then they take you into custody still carrying on say well you stole our tracker you could play this all day includeing well we told you it was on this pole! Well yeah but what school! What pole i really did look but ah i still don't what know your talkin about i don't even know what a tracker looks like so ah i supose i could of seen it when i looked for it but how would i know if i don't even know what this thing looks like! Or why it was suposedly on my car or if it was really even on my car! I'm afraid i don't have enough information all the way around to actually be able to answer your question! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Judging from what I've seen here on YT over the years, I don't doubt you at all. I wonder if LA is even in a US state at all. We don't have to worry about them much longer. Sea level rise will take care of the problem.
@@user-kz2yt5ow7r innocent until proven guilty. But maybe I should be more specific. If you are going to physically resist you can't complain if you get shot. Youre right, white people are vocal. You can plead your case all day but if you get physical they will too so how you gonna blame them? They take people into custody because if they're guilty they won't stick around long enough to get charged.
Boy, if only she could have put it on a police car. Let them follow themselves. "Wow, look at this guys, she went to Krispy Kreme five times today, then she went to the police station. Was she delivering donuts and coffee, and we missed it?"
@@jesusoftheapes that's a logger not a tracker , you need to do some research what a tracker does , yes it can track in real time , I have one , they are cheap on eBay and use a mobile sim card
I think the appropriate response since it is magnetic would be to go to a city council meeting and put it on the Mayors car, they might even find some interesting places he visits!
I might not wanna take it that far. You could potentially get a vandalism charge for attaching it to their car. You might ask, "how could that happen?!" To which, I would say, they might jiggle the tracker around until it scratches the paint, then the tracker that was placed on X's car ended up on Y's car and damaged it in the process. Oh and you may even get stalking charges if they can come up with a way to claim that you figured out how to hack into the tracker and get data out of it. But, yes, it would be amazing to plant a tracker on city officials vehicles.
I suppose it could be argued that they wouldn't be able to prove YOU removed it from your car and YOU put it on his car, but we all know how police interrogations work, and if the person isn't very smart, they may just decide to admit to it out of fear of a greater sentence.
@@since1876 that's why you put it on the mayor's car while wearing gloves and not on camera. Then they will have to prove that you put it on the mayor's car in order to get you in any trouble whatsoever. And by your logic if a cop puts a tracker on my car and I see it all I got to do is slide it until it scratches my paint and then I can file vandalism charges on the police officer that put it on my car.
A buddy of mine found one on his truck a few years ago, he knew it was the police because of his activities, but we did some pretty funny and clever we took it to Walmart waited until the police showed up as they always do and put it on one of the police cars while they were inside
@@alandawson3345 they would know what was going on with a train, a truck would follow the road and be alot easier to keep them thinking they are tracking you
I've heard of stories Where people who still exotic cars put trackers on them just to find out where you stay later and then steal your car. How do you know it's not one of them? That would be my first thought that a thief put it there.
It probably has a sim card. So remove, install in phone, use to call $1 per min chat hotlines or use to order a bunch of adult toys and such and send packages to your friendly local sheriffs dept.
@@JustForFun77077 If a judge signs a search warrant giving the police the authority to enter private property and seize that specific item, then yes, no problem. But I’m under no obligation to transport it anywhere nor am I required to keep it on my car once it’s discovered.
@@JustForFun77077 No he's not. There is no legal obligation for him to take it to them whatsoever, they left it with him, they have to come back and get it legally. If I dump a truck full of shit in your yard, you are not legally required to bring it back to me, just like if police attach a tracker unknowingly to someone's vehicle, THEY have to retrieve it, there is absolutely no obligation for you to bring it to them, even if you removed it. They forfeited that property by them intentionally placing it out of their possession. Them demanding for it to be returned is entrapment if anything, just like them asking the person that this video is about to take it back to them, when they knew full well where it was the whole time. They wanted her to bring it in to witness it being in her possession and nothing else.
Your Possession of Stolen Property warning is absolutely warranted. When I was 15 years old my parents used to let me have house parties at my place all the time, and some arse "accidentally" or not, left a stolen film camera at my house. (This was back in the 90s) The next day my girlfriend at the time and I were cleaning up after the party, and found the camera. It just so happened to belong to HER parents, she knew I didnt take it, we found it together. It fell out of a jacket pocket when we picked it up. But her parents hated me with a passion, so when we returned it to them, thinking theyd be grateful to have it back, they called the police on me and had ME charged with possession of stolen property. The story doesnt end there tho; They hit me with a $300 restitution and 90 hours of community service. But, it was a small town, I was one of the few teenagers with a daily afternoon job, so I thought I could get them all done every Sunday if I didnt miss ANY Sundays. Everything worked great until the last 3 weeks before my court date. I had 9 HOURS left, I walked into court thinking I'd just ask for another week to complete them, I GOT 6 MONTHS IN YOUNG OFFENDERS! I spent my 16th birthday in there. And the kicker to all this, Bobbi, my girlfriends mother, WORKED AT THE YOUNG OFFENDERS! Listen to this lawyer! If or when you ever see stolen property, well, I'd just say absolutely destroy it.. but the good lawyer here says that could be another charge in and of itself.. goddamn this system is broken as all hell!
Sorry, I forgot to add, the last 3 weeks before the court date I got 6 months at, thr guy I was doing my hours with at the towns Arena, "went on vacation". The other employees at the arena said they cant sign my hours off for me, my probation officer said wander around to community based organizations like the old folks home. The old folks home and the arena are the only two places I could do my hours in that town, I asked the old folks home and they said they already had too many probationers doing hours there. I went back to the arena and worked those hours anyway, they just didnt count because nobody signed the hours off for me.
Well....so sorry you had such negligent "parents " to allow houe parties when you were 15. Girlfriend....13? 12? But sure, they probably needed to attend a swap party.
The girls parents probably didn't like you for throwing ragers. They probably disliked your parents more. Did you throw any more ragers while you were in juvi? Lmao
Long freight trains loaded with containers roll through my town. We occasionally see wind turbine blades stretching along two cars, too. Lots of possibilities.
Simular event in Korea 30+ years ago, Post Exchange employee found a tracker attached under his car. Threw it into the Han River, CID came asking for it. He told them, "I thought it was a bomb and tossed it into the river." CID had a fit and made threats, that went nowhere.
@@chrishoffmann6254 Who determines morality in a diverse society whereby the governing doctrine allows for freedom of religion and affords people the "right" to pursue life, liberty, and happiness. Morals are subjective. One culture actually eats the body of the father when he dies and views anything else as horrific.
Years ago UPS put a tracking device on a UPS truck - but didn't tell the driver. He heard a ticking sound, suspected it was a bomb, called the police and the police TOTALLY DISASSEMBLED THE TRUCK! UPS didn't put tracking devices on trucks again.
I had my truck impounded after a marijuana possession charge in Angleton, TX. My mechanic friend and I noticed it a few days later while changing my oil and doing some basic stuff while it was on the lift. I brought it into the police department in a box in about 20 pieces. "Somehow it meet up with a sledge hammer officers? Not sure exactly how it happened, but I am assuming this belongs to you guys." I didn't get a response they just took the box and the sergeant didn't look to happy nor know anything about it either. 🙅 Never was brought up to me again nor did they ever find anything the 10 times they pulled me over the next 6 months by 8 different officers in total. Funny how that works right?
In Quebec consular and diplomatic cars have "CC 000" and "CD 000" plates (presumably so parking officers don't waste time ticketing them), while Average Joe has A00 AAA. Fairly easy to spot.
@@gijoe696 no. They would track the trailer and when they started seeing it hit scale houses and truck stops, warehouses, they would realize that they had been duped and lost the tracker.
It happened to me, but I kept it. And as a matter of fact, I still have it. I'm certain they are using my phones GPS now. I've quite a story to tell you if you're ever interested in this twisted mess they've caused me. But thanks for letting us hear your stories. Truly.
Steve, I will tell you this state.Troopers here in louisiana are very klanish, If i'm not mistaken, troopers and wildlife and fishery train together, Not long ago a trooper lost his job because he covered up for his friends that had broke the law By assaulting an individual that was in handcuffs
@@West-Wind The railroads own the tracks, at roads and sidewalks an easement is given, but you are walking on railroad property. If you step into a rail yard or or anywhere not specifically intended for crossing the tracks you are trespassing.
Miguel3209 1 >> You just described a scene from the film/s Thief 1981 & heat 1995 both police placed the tracking device on a through state bus... to throw them off the sent of the real action. BTW thief (1981) is great film not to mention the film music.
FARADAY cage. _"What you do with the tracker?"_ "What tracker? I don't own any trackers." _"You're in possession of our..."_ ✋🏼 "Show me the evidence."
Microwaves are faraday cages. Get a junk microwave from the dump (you were salvaging, nothing more, nothing less), go to walmart, chuck the tracker in the microwave and close the door, the tracker pops off the radar in the walmart parking lot, whoops the battery was faulty, bury the damn thing deep in the woods, not on the car, whatever it was knocked off by a branch on the road!
@@lsswappedcessna microwaves don’t have a fine enough mesh to block frequencies that trackers would transmit at, they only really block microwaves, like they’re supposed to. You would need a much finer cage. To see this yourself, make a phone call and then place your phone into the microwave and see if it disconnects or not
@@CorporalDirge if you go to buy drug you know what you are about to receive because you set up to buy drugs. remember possession of an illegal item includes drugs not trackers
@@steelwitness are you suggesting they sold her the tracker? Entrapment can be any form of giving without the recipient knowing. Or even giving by placing on their person or property. (Like planting drugs in a car.)
@@CorporalDirge they never threatened to charge her with illegal possession of an item. so drugs are what we are talking about because that is the most common form of illegal item unless we're talking about ivory, explosives, illegal weapons, or exotic animals. maybe youre confused with the possession of stolen property? cant charge her with that cause she didnt steal it
possible suggestion; drive the car to a very public place, state capital, large county hospital, library, college. then call the newspapers, then call the bomb squad, and record everything.
@@AndrewGPeterson Don’t declare it a bomb, just tell the police you found a suspicious device attached to a vehicle near a government building and you’re worried about what might happen if you disturb it. Making a bomb threat is illegal. So is making a fake bomb threat. But telling the truth about an unidentified device isn’t illegal.
Brilliant. Make sure it’s a public place so security cameras can capture you placing the device. I’d go to a random light post and see if I could toss it to the top of it. Easy to track its location, very difficult to spot.
We have tracking devices full time on us. One all new vehicles ,if they have a phone built in. Two, your personal phone is also a track device. Three dash cams have gps built-in in. On the roads. These small cameras on the poles are now tag readers. I went to a town where there are no tag readers. On the news a stolen vehicle was cought there by tag readers. I drove all over the place in that town and found no tag readers. I then found out the small round rotating cameras on every stop light are the tag reader.
I found a tracking device on my buddies car he just bought, he wanted me to give it a look over. He bought it from a used cars only dealer. He paid cash for it. No payments at all. So I took the working tracker and went to a travel centers of America truck stop and attached it to an over the road truck. 4 weeks later he received a call from said dealer and asked why he was driving all around the USA. He gave choice words and hung up on them...😂
Just tell the cops the tracker has been taken into evidence. They can get it back after court if the judge orders it. What’s good for the population is good for those the population hires to protect them.
that sounds more so like a video idea than an entire channel. There aren't enough types of trackers to make an entire channel out of it but you can make a few videos of it. "How to disassemble a police tracker non-destructively", " how to tell it is a police tracker and which model number it is", " how to reassemble a police tracker", " how to repair a police tracker", and the one that might be against the law " how to reverse GPS the police tracker to find who is tracking it"
I heard of a guy that Kern County Sheriffs put a tracker on and was found. They tracked it for over a month and later got warrants for all the places the tracker stopped at. But when they started executing all those warrants including his house. It was later discovered some how the tracker was on a Dominoes delivery car. Needless to say not only were the Sheriffs Mad at His house being clean but looking like clowns when they even had warrants for many BPD, KCDC, KCSD and Other city and county employees.
I think I'd have re-gifted the tracker to some interstate trucking company by sticking it to the frame of a trailer and let the tracking report drive somebody bonkers.
7:05 _"How did the tracker get from the car to the pole?"_ I don't know, but my best guess is that the COPS who were supposed to put it on her car, DIDN'T. They put it on the pole instead, and LIED about it.
Yep for a long time drug enforcement were rolling 5 cars per stop. They pulled me over several times. 3 times in a little over a month they pulled me over and their probabacal cause was they see me entering a drug trafficking area. Same cop same bull sh## . Used the dog to hit and search my moms car. Straight up harrassment. All 3 times I pointed out the address on my drivers licenses matches the house they pulled me over in front of. Yep pulled me over in front of my house. I did not want to live in a drug trafficking area but they were not even bothering the drug dealers. 3 houses in the area border up with survalance cameras and bars on windows and doors with heavy foot traffic to this house where no one lives they just occupy. They have to keep that holding facility in plain dealing full to justify the tax money it took to build it.
If I had found a tracker, I would have had a hacker clone it, and put one on a long haul semi to Canada, and the other bound to a major shipping port, or in snail mail to Jamaica, or on a crab fishing boat in the Bering Sea. Such fun.
There was an incident A few years ago in Auckland New Zealand when A cop went onto private property to attach A tracker to A drug dealers' car, the dealer armed with A high-powered air gun shot and killed him, the dealer was convicted of murder, but the cop was still dead.
You mentioned a situation of the police witnessing a person in possession of some item that might cause a sticky problem. Within the last year, on the side of a street, I found what appeared to be the contents of a purse including a couple of credit cards. Fortunately, it occurred to me that were I to deliver these things to the police, they might not believe I simply "found" these things and might wonder whether I had stolen them. I wish I could have helped the victim. But, I didn't want my name in some report, and knowing that these things probably wouldn't have been dumped on the side of the street if they hadn't already been cancelled, I disposed of them properly without involving the police.
Many "trackers" are just recording devices, not transmitters. They record GPS data, which is later downloaded direct from the device. The device has to be recovered from the vehicle before the data can be copied. If the device has been removed, the police have no (electronic) way to find it.
It's a LOT more difficult to get cell tracking info out of the cell company than to get some local judge willing to sign off on a tracker. The phone companies have to deal with some rather strong federal legislation and any warrant or production order goes through an army of lawyers before any data is handed over. The end result is the same, but cell tracking is a lot more work for the cops.
@Jose Stickman Press charges. Wiretapping laws are a felony if violated, and only stop being a felony if the cops have a warrant. Tapping a phone doesn’t just make the evidence the tap gets inadmissible, it makes whoever installed and operated the tap eligible for 3-5 in state prison, with the added benefit of a felony conviction making them ineligible to ever be a cop again, for life.
@Jose Stickman That's called parallel construction and it's a form of evidence laundering. It isn't legal though I imagine cops get away with it often. Do you have proof this is what they did? If so, you may have a lucrative lawsuit on your hands.
A few years ago, i found a device under the drivers seat of a used car i bought. I took it to the place where I bought the car, and they said it was a tracker, but not thiers. I threw it in a garbage can, and a few hours later I went by and saw several Nashville Metro police going thru the garbage can......no one ever talked to my about it, and I forgot till I saw this....maybe??????
