Police seize guns from two shooting friends

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Among the many stories of good, ordinary shooters losing their guns to Devon & Cornwall Police's gun grab, the story of Tom Wyndham Smith and Arthur Harvey is one of the nastiest. Four armed police turned up at Tom's home in Cornwall in August 2021. They said there had been complaints against, though they refused to say what. They seized his firearms and revoked his certificate. When he asked a friend, Art Harvey, to claim his guns from St Austell police station, police revoked Art's certiificate as well.
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@truthsearcher596 2 года назад

" I have no trust in the police anymore "....... As do 99% of the UK population, welcome to the club.

@carlf3051 2 года назад

"You'll own nothing, and be happy" - The police are the THUGS, that are here to make that happen.

@arthercamelot1140 2 года назад

Sir Harry Roberts

@davidmassey3364 2 года назад

It isn’t the police at fault. It is the left wing politicians who fear us. They do not want us to be able to stand up against them and their tyranny. Thomas Jefferson said that it is not just the right of the people to keep and bare arms, but our duty. Our founding fathers warned us of the day that we would have to fight to keep our freedom. Tyrannical politicians will alway be trying to have total control over us. So fight on.

@beefy0978 2 года назад

The Police are routinely using the term "surrender" and then insisting upon threat of arrest that they invade your home and search for weapons and ammunition. This is to avoid the process of obtaining a Firearms Act Warrant at Magistrates Court and they are therefore routinely acting unlawfully and depending uponm the costs to prevent any court action against them. If they do not feel safe enough to request a legitimate surrender and allow you to fetch them and hand them over, then a warrant is the appropriate route where a magistrate can test their reasoning in advance. The Police have completely forgotten who they serve.

@wandahelmer1038 2 года назад

They serve their Natzi masters.....TYRANNY

@dantevxv1501 2 года назад

Your going to have to stop pretending the boomer truth regime is anything other than anti white propaganda. Watch europa the last battle

@fredgillespie5855 2 года назад

"The Police have completely forgotten who they serve?" The police are Crown servants, that is who they serve - the Crown, otherwise known as the Government.

@mikesmith8313 Год назад

@@fredgillespie5855 They act like a law unto themselves,serving their own interests, when it suits them locally. Firearms ownership is local issue and govt. is not involved they see it under category of crime when Police make it appear so with their devious tactics like turning up armed to teeth as above. Now pis off and be Judged by someone else.

@paulsouth4794 2 года назад

Justice is for those who have the money.

@julieannecharters6132 2 года назад

When BASC dropped the legal insurance ,shooters who did not look elsewhere for cover like gunplan now have there arses hanging in the breeze when things like this happen.its about £40 a year .total no brainer.

@paulsouth4794 2 года назад

@@julieannecharters6132 i did not knkw such insurance existed . I will look at our SSAA Australia.

@Top_Shots_Photography 2 года назад

@@julieannecharters6132 this is true although there is not an insurance company that would take this case in meaning you have wasted your £40. Insurance companies access each case before agreeing to challenge in court you have to have a higher than 51% chance of winning. Being aggressive in public on 2 occasions means your chances are literally 0 hence the advice that he received.

@shaunjones6049 2 года назад

Well said Paul👍 until you have had experience with the law and lawyers you just don’t know how twisted the law can be in all walks of life . If you have the money you can buy the results you want. Or at the very least a better outcome ☹️

@blackbear9326 2 года назад

@@julieannecharters6132 … interesting, what do you get for your £40+ subscription please? Cheers.

@dannyboy7715 2 года назад

And the police wonder why they are hated?

@nigelbase1196 2 года назад

NEVER EVER voluntarily hand over your firearms unless they have a valid warrant...if you do you can't fight it in court..

@airwolf8915 2 года назад

So how do you stop them taking your guns ? They come to your door Armed and aggressive. How are you going to react, if you refuse to cooperate they will use your refusal to consolidate their position. I think you are in a very scary place and they know it, they are trained to intimidate the public. BASC, is an organisation that purport to be supportive of it's members, I suppose they are, if you've got land and financial clout.

@robertyoung9589 2 года назад

No entry into your home without a search warrant and court order signed by a judge.

@chrisabraham8793 2 года назад

Your licence is a warrant in a way, you having guns in society gives them an a excuse to bash your door in.

@nigelbase1196 2 года назад

@@chrisabraham8793 NO it does not!

@chrisabraham8793 2 года назад

@@nigelbase1196 I totally agree with you but with plod these days they think they are above the law, they are out to intimidate, to scare you to say and do the wrong thing etc.

@jammor66 2 года назад

There has to be a lawyer willing to pick this case up somewhere? Sad state of affairs. There you go Hunters, it’s not just us Sport Shooters.

@magic_no1 2 года назад

Makes you wonder... Has Prince Andrew had that knock on his door?

@gavincrispin1436 2 года назад

they need their guns to protect the live in pedo.

@truthsearcher596 2 года назад

They could visit Charles whilst they're at it, once he's finished talking to his plants that is.

@Dr.Gunsmith 2 года назад

Absolutely

@kenh3344 2 месяца назад

Only on historical sexual issues ??

@nicklewis1475 2 года назад

I threatened legal action against D&C police firearms for a similar thing in 2018/19 and got £1,100 compensation as an out of court settlement, I did it myself without solicitors etc. Just a lot of emails and a promise this wasn't going away.... Michelle Moore was a waste of space then, I'm surprised she still has a job!!

@ooweesaler 2 года назад

Good on you Nick. This is getting out of control.

@julieannecharters6132 2 года назад

did you get your licence/guns back ?

@nicklewis1475 2 года назад

@@julieannecharters6132 yes, after 8 months...

@stephenclarke3990 2 года назад

Firstly, well done 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Secondly, you might have to do it all over again. This is only the beginning. And you will now be a target ❗️😫

@nicklewis1475 2 года назад

@@stephenclarke3990 i did think that before posting.... but some one needs to say/do something. We pay for this service (not nearly enough in my opinion. )

@kevinreeder8273 2 года назад

As a gun owner in the US stories like this make me angry. Even being lawful, honest and cooperative isn’t enough to keep a gun there.

@LisaAnn777 2 года назад

they did it to themselves. this is what happens when you give up your rights out of fear that someone MIGHT do something.

@TheKarlos76 Год назад

@@LisaAnn777 I totally agree... I'm from UK and what we (lawful gun owners) have to put up with of late! can't go out and shoot pigeons after the beating season now. Four weeks we used to get. The plod have gone crazy. The UK have a very very small amount of gun crime, however, knifes are apparently everywhere killing everyone every day, I know..., lets ban all knives including kitchen knives! and cars after that.

@JRH087 Год назад

We need help, our government and monarchy are tyrannical, they only show the rest of the world what they want them to see, if it carries on well be North Korea!!!!

@pamtnman1515 2 года назад

Civil rights and private property rights don’t exist in a police state like UK. Outrageous behavior by overreaching police that has zero to do with crime.

@josephstabile9154 2 года назад

Don't know if you're all past the point of no return, but are there any brilliant barristers, plus patriots with deep pockets, who will take this fight on principles through the courts?

@pamtnman1515 2 года назад

@@josephstabile9154 that is what it will take, a sustained test of the UK legal system, which right now is full of subjective nonsense

@medwynvermin8772 2 года назад

BASC help and advice as much use as a chocolate fire guard. Thanks for the support BASC, hang your heads in shame.

@knine8154 2 года назад

If you are a law abiding individual they have you at every turn, they don't care about criminals

@Snakebloke Год назад

This is my experience too. The police around here have never caught the men involved in three separate gang raped of young girls... But they've arrested people for posting memes or shouting out of their cars in road rage incidents. They're beyond a hideous joke.

@gilbert7794 2 года назад

Typical of the P9lice punishing the innocent to cover their own faults.

@glynnrigby5512 2 года назад

In the case of the New Zealand Police, you are correct. They never followed their own rules for issuing licenses. The mosque gunman got a license (when he shouldn't - had the Police complied with their own statutory obligations) and now they punish legitimate firearm users.

@okiedoke6373 2 года назад

That's why we have a right to bear arms in the United States the right to bear arms was given to us to defend ourselves against the government

@Phantom8589 2 года назад

Red flag laws are doing the same thing here. We have states that have less freedoms than others but it just goes to show that freedoms will eventually die if they are not defended. Gun dealers have had their bank accounts frozen as a form of gun control by banks and financial institutions to force people to out. Our freedoms are constantly under attack by our own government and even the private sectors. Amazing how people are ready to sell out their own freedom for a pretense of security. Austin Tx is now democrat controlled and is starting to look like CA. Facts are democrats always flee what they vote in and ruin it everywhere else as they escape the disasters they create. There's no way to stop them moving in and wrecking TX the same CA, NY, Chicago, Detroit or anywhere else they overrun. They are like a plague of locusts that destroy everything in the area and move on.

@okiedoke6373 2 года назад

@@Phantom8589 see you are correct about that when the government came out and said that felons shouldn't own firearms then everybody said yeah you're right and so we as a country allowed our government to infringe our right to bear arms you understand I seen a video of a lawmaker at UT of Austin and he was booed out why because he had a different belief in what they were being taught they're being taught to accept socialism to accept government control they're also being taught to bully those who believe different

@okiedoke6373 2 года назад

@@Phantom8589 when you're right Austin Texas is a f****** pigsty

@okiedoke6373 2 года назад

@@Phantom8589 the funny thing is you mention Austin Texas there's more of us here than there are then if we would just get out and vote then we wouldn't have to do with this bulshit now would we

@okiedoke6373 2 года назад

But then just say the way the government passing out free money will be fully Venezuelan in a year I would suggest whatever Affairs you have that roping you need to get them in order and be ready for full-blown communism do you understand

@magic_no1 2 года назад

Nothing like a few human sacrifices to make the people think the monsters have gone away!

@MajorJimPlays 2 года назад

Sue them!! This is illegal activity, claiming you brandished a gun in public and if you didn't take them to the cleaners mate.

@Baron-Ortega 2 года назад

The point is normal folks don't have the money for that.

@charlievernon4064 2 года назад

BASC is not fit for purpose waste of money.

@m0jon 2 года назад

Unbelievable response from B.A.S.C

@johntozer8270 2 года назад

BASC are a waste of space as far as average Joe is concerned, unless you are landed gentry, it's a matter of thanks for your money, now go away until your next renewal, completely out of touch with general public

@mrsmith906 2 года назад

@@johntozer8270 Wrong. I have direct personal experience that shows otherwise. BASC is worth its weight in gold for all shooters, without them & their support at all levels we would all eventually get stuffed.

@johntozer8270 2 года назад

@@mrsmith906 there are many more agree with me than disagree most won't even join, just look at the out of touch price of entering to try and win Longthorne shotgun, they need to live in the real world,

@mrsmith906 2 года назад

@@johntozer8270 I'm in a wildfowling club and BASC are currently working hard at national level to protect our marsh shooting consents, spending many thousands of pounds in the process, our members are Joe Public. Without BASC fighting our corner we would be lost. They also helped me & my nephew when applying for a certificate otherwise the police would have ignored us. BASC also helped my shooting buddy with a renewal issue. Without BASC, shooting sports would be on a slippery slope to being banned. Now if you want the chance to win a Best English Shotgun the tickets won't be a quid each like at our club meetings where I won a box of cartridges last month...

@johntozer8270 2 года назад

@@mrsmith906 as I said completely out of touch with average joe and reality, make prize and entry cost more affordable, especially in this day and age they are turning away younger people from taking up the sport

@Sabumnim666 2 года назад

Police fabricating evidence is very common I had this experience in Adelaide about 25 years ago where in court a cop put forward signed statements supposedly by me which I had never made and when I challenged it in court the magistrate was disgusted by the cops action.

@fredgillespie5855 2 года назад

Was the cop prosecuted for perjury etc.?

@justwilliam6871 2 года назад

Post Hungerford, 1987 both mine and my families f,a,c’s were revoked, and not a penny of compensation paid out for our guns. There are times I wish I lived in the u.s.a. God bless America, long live the republic.

@magic_no1 2 года назад

Fieldsports Britain should be bringing this to the attention of the general public. If Devon and Cornwall were targeting people solely on the basis that they were gypsies, or black this behaviour would be stamped out. Shooting is part of our culture "they wiped out one third of my life". They should not be able to do this on a whim with no proper investigation and should have no more than a week to put the issue before an independant adjudicator following confiscation and not be allowed to stonewall the licence holder. Surrendering a licence should only be regarded as the shooter approaching the police and anything else as a confiscation. Any allegation of wrongdoing by a licence holder should immdeiately involve an interview prior to confiscation and guns should automatically be placed with an RFD not the police unless they are forensic evidence.

@perlogalism2167 2 года назад

Unfortunately the "general public" don't care. They've been led to believe that we're all potential mass-murderers by the media and veggie protest groups. You've got a point about racial bias though: All the cases I've heard about are caucasian males... Surely that's racial profiling ;-)

@johnhilliard4498 2 года назад

I don't think this is high on Fieldsports agenda see my post when I asked them the same thing.

@klonman235 2 года назад

@@perlogalism2167 Согласен с вами. Живу в Западной Сибири. Мой отец, мой брат и все знакомые спросили меня,, зачем тебе это нужно,, когда я купил итальянскую двустволку и пошёл заниматься стендовой стрельбой. Увлёкся позже охотой, но больше люблю побродить с ружьём по нашему осеннем лесу, мне нравится природа и сам процесс. Большинство знакомых и коллег из тех кто знает не понимает зачем я занимаюсь стрельбой. А меня это успокаивает и расслабляет. На стенде я сосредоточен и это отвлекает меня от стрессов в городе и на работе. Это удовольствие. Люди не имеющие оружия не понимают что стрелки это абсолютно законопослушные, думающие и очень ответственные люди. Это же очевидно. Но для большинства, человек с оружием кажется странным... А ведь это всего лишь инструмент для души) как скрипка или гитара.

@fieldsportstv 2 года назад

Thanks for this, John. This is high on our agenda. What's not is attacking the shooting organisations which I think I understand from your comments is what you would like us to do. / Charlie

@magic_no1 2 года назад

@@fieldsportstv So Charlie, what's the plan mate? There are some very, very wealthy shooters out there and highly trained/placed legal eagles. Perhaps you and Johnny Carter could build a working group from your respective contacts. I see this as a cultural attack, I've been around guns since I was 10 it is intrinsic to who I am. (This is the wife's account) I joined the NGO because BASC, though well organised, don't seem to be as good as they claim. Dave

@David35445 2 года назад

And this is an excellent example of "red flag" laws being abused.

@CandidZulu 2 года назад

The whole system is set up to oppress the population. Soon enough we have a social credit score system, and that will make gun ownership even harder. Probably impossible for most.

@mason24682 2 года назад

Truly disgusting behaviour by those we should respect. Reputation is a hard thing to get back once mistakes have been made. These actions show just what they will stoop too, to try and regain respect. I hope these cases are won and compensation is awarded for all those who have been wrongly vilified

@jamesclose5085 2 года назад

BASC seem to be a waste of space in not supporting their members. These gentlemen have a right to make a FOI (freedom of information request) about the seizure of their firearms and therefore find out about the crime/incident number connected with the seizure. They can also check if correct procedure has been followed etc. Nick Corbett has made some pertinent points below.

@Top_Shots_Photography 2 года назад

So BASC are a waste of money because they advised a member how to proceed, ? He does not have the funds for a legal challenge and has been revoked for being aggressive in public twice. The other guy again aggressive in public and no mention of basc maybe he is not a member of basc ? Or do you think BASC should fight for people who are aggressive to hold guns ?

@albion1949 2 года назад

Unproven allegations.

@Top_Shots_Photography 2 года назад

@@albion1949 I can neither confirm or deny that, unsure how you can.

@davidwebb2318 2 года назад

@@Top_Shots_Photography absolutely right. Everyone who has their certificate revoked claims to be an angel but there is always a reason why the police make these decisions.

@tanfosbery1153 2 года назад

Same with the NRA who didn't support owners of SLRs when they were banned after Hungerford

@theoldhobbit3640 2 года назад

As a relative newcomer to the sport, this is quite a worrying story. Why are the official organisations not providing legal assistance in cases such as this, perhaps they are trying to make this a "rich mans" sport only. The official bodies need to get their finger out and offer shooters some legal support.

@bwghall1 Год назад

that's why I left them all. they do nothing except ask for the membership money on the dot every year, another scam. Oh dear is that aggressive talking.

@seanwozencroft524 2 года назад

The same happened to someone that I know. They had had guns since 17 years old and at the time was 68. Police said he had allowed a person un licenced to take and use his firearms without him present. No evidence of any offence and was proven by witnesses that what they were accusing was false. 4 years later police still won't return the weapons. The whole thing is costing thousands. Luckily there a member of basc and there costs are covered by them. And it's never been taken to court by the police because they know there's no case to answer.

@kotaspremiere2931 2 года назад

There really should be some sort of legal and enforced check on police for things like this. Like a forced case or something. Where i live the police are pretty decent country folk, but i know there are places where even whole departments can be bad. Police are humans, and humans can get full of themselves especially when they have power.

@garyallen4486 2 года назад

Do not let the police into the house without a warrant.

@clanger_6870 2 года назад

Great advice from someone who doesn't know the law Gary. The police don't always need a warrant. Check out Sec 18(1), 18(5) and 32 PACE plus some common law powers, all of which give Police a power of entry without a warrant. But we digress.........

@garyallen4486 2 года назад

In general the police do not have the right to enter a person's house or other private premises without their permission. However, they can enter without a warrant: when in close pursuit of someone the police believe has committed, or attempted to commit, a serious crime, or. to sort out a disturbance, or.

@garyallen4486 2 года назад

Therefore-clanger_68 the police would have to a bloody good reason and present that reasoning as evidence for the removal of said firearms from someone’s abode. The reluctance of the police to give an explanation seems to be key would you agree?

@johnkilcer 2 года назад

You can't comply yourself out of tyranny.

@ianmorrison4661 2 года назад

Why doesn't the fieldsports channel set up a go fund me account to help these people. Waste of time calling BASC they are useless. Get your mp involved as well.

@fieldsportstv 2 года назад

Thanks for this. We have set up a WhatsApp group for the victims and added friendly lawyers to it + we are promoting one of the shooters' GoFundMe appeals. I'm sorry - it's the limitation of being a TV network. / Charlie

@nigelwiseman2262 2 года назад

If you have a good MP, use them. Regards

@leephillips1538 2 года назад

Surely if there is an allegation there must be a crime number? This must then be investigated properly. Once the police can see you've done nothing wrong they should give your guns back. Or you'd like to think.

@20ppc 2 года назад

As an ex police officer; there will definitely be a crime/incident reference number. Furthermore the two gentlemen are entitled to some sort of disclosure of the allegations being made against them. Unless the police who attempt to seize your firearms have a letter revoking your certificate, they have no power to enter or seize your property. Very worrying that the documentation they have been given by the police is proportioning to suggest that the firearms were surrendered when quite clearly they were seized. Sending 4 armed officers to seize firearms it completely disproportionate.

@fieldsportstv 2 года назад

Thanks, Nick. We have put up advice like this from ex police officers on our website, too. / Charlie

@totalitaer. 2 года назад

@@20ppc Its § 1 of Ze Pölicing Law, which reads: "Because I say so".

@winstonsmithsoul 2 года назад

This is a consistent ploy used in NZ. All it takes is an anonymous accusation and the police can use the mental health act to take good peoples guns. No evidence needed. The great reset can’t happen to armed citizens. But I guess that’s just a crazy conspiracy theory proposed by Alex Jones.

@fieldsportstv 2 года назад

Sorry to report, I am an organisation junkie. I'm a member of CA and GWCT since the 1980s, BASC since the 1990s, and more recently SCI and Angling Trust. I am not interested in what they can do, personally, for me - apparently, some of them offer insurance - and I wish they'd all stop sending me their tedious magazines - but I am keen to support them for what they do lobbying government. / Charlie

@MSScout86 2 года назад

Sorry for your troubles. Terrible that you must be approved and permitted to own a gun.

@ryanvargas4889 2 года назад

Apparently you have to put those Apple trackers on your guns and equipment and wear a go pro from the second you take them out of the safe and to the range and back home recording every second otherwise the police will fabricate any evidence or alleged scenario to seize your firearms.

@tanfosbery1153 2 года назад

When I had visits from the police in the 80s just one unarmed police man turned up, often in plain clothes - how times have changed

@TheWolfsnack 2 года назад

Indeed....the last bullshite visit by police out of their jurisdiction to serve a search warrant on a Canadian gunsmith resulted in the 70 year old gunsmith (also the gunsmith used by Ontario Provincial Police) being gunned down, killed by an overeager cop. Latest news is that the cops cleared themselves of wrongdoing....

@fredaewalker2665 2 года назад

I have not seen any enquiry into the pathetic way in which the Devon and Cornwall Police dealt with a person who was a know mental case. We still have not seen anyone in the police lose their jobs as a result of all those deaths. These chaps are being penalised..

@prancer1803 2 года назад

Guns have no place in the UK, according to public opinion, and they should be banned.

@doomfathertm8771 2 года назад

I hope everyone realizes here, that if we let this happen it will be all of us next given time and not just Devon and Cornwall!! And unfortunately I feel this is the first domino and the beginning of the end of shooting and private gun ownership in the UK.

@prancer1803 2 года назад

But the police are doing the right things here, trying to get all the guns away. Guns have no purpose in society.

@sjowners 2 года назад

Ok Ukrane.

@eclipsegfxable 2 года назад

@@prancer1803 Quiet down pansy. You want your government to defend you? Good luck with that.

@emouselOregon 2 года назад

It's well past the first domino in GB. Your ancestors gave away your liberty decades ago. We are slowly and voluntarily giving ours away in the US, too.

@doomfathertm8771 2 года назад

@@emouselOregon It's a very sad state of affairs, I don't disagree, it's quite clear to see when you think about it

@anthonymagill3714 2 года назад

In other words BASC was no use at all

@whiskeytango9769 2 года назад

Totalitarian regime.

@juliemunoz2762 2 года назад

these guys need to form organizations that will go to court for them

@emouselOregon 2 года назад

As an American I feel sorry for folks in nanny state countries. Americans will never give up their right to protect themselves.

@paulmurgatroyd6372 2 года назад

The poice couldn't even spell Remington on the receipt, which shows you how much they know about the subject.

@gallantone1535 2 года назад

Why can't they get gun's and weapons off drug dealers, crooks etc. That involves real work with they seem to be incapable of.

@Marcus_Shaw 2 года назад

So, always make sure you have your phone recording video whenever the police are at your door.

@kevinparker461 2 года назад

I always have that ready whenever i see "The Filth" in the area. I despise the incompetent parasites!

@bencopp3483 2 года назад

Seems that our community is paying the price for their mistakes.

@billynomates920 2 года назад

yep. lock your downstairs doors. call your solicitor before you address them from an upstairs window. when you do address them - make sure it is only what your solicitor has told you to make known to everyone in earshot if anything.

@B61Mod12 2 года назад

Same thing happens in Australia Despicable!

@billypower3349 2 года назад

I was right to cancel my BASC membership. Absolutely unfit for purpose.

@ibelieve1468 2 года назад

Listen up Basc if you don't help these shooters no one will join or rejoin. What is the point of basc etc.I will no longer waste my money on you unless you do far more than advise.

@johnboucher8226 2 года назад

They asked me to have a routine medical just before the lockdowns. The GPs closed down for around 8 months. A few weeks in, D&C revoked my licences for not having the medical! My only route was to go to crown court which I couldnt afford

@col.cottonhill6655 2 года назад

Infuriating!

@magic_no1 2 года назад

Looks like they revoked it because you had one! We are lucky to have a very decent Firearms dept. in Lincolnshire long may it stay that way.

@fieldsportstv 2 года назад

John - if you want to appeal, please can you get in touch? / Charlie charlie@fieldsportschannel.tv

@nigelwiseman2262 2 года назад

Of coarse you can take them to Court, cost you nothing, you are the plaintiff….the Police basically have stolen your property. Regards.

@monkeyshines11 2 года назад

They don’t have tele-heath visits there?

@1.forestrunner 2 года назад

It's called a tyrannical government

@adrianeller5068 2 года назад

As an expat Brit who has lived in the US for over 20 years I'm with KevinReeder . This is why I would never go back to the UK . Thank god for the the 2nd amendment and for the lobbying of the NRA

@forddude1976 2 года назад

I've been waiting for almost a year for s SGC grant it's been with the decision section for almost six months. Is this a way off not having to take certificate back just delay and not issue

@rennardhutchinson997 2 года назад

Wake up US thats what they want to do here

@nigelappleton2963 2 года назад

What financial recompense do you get from the police for the guns they have taken? Most people have guns worth a lot of money, thousands, surely this is theft unless you are refunded the full market value of the weapons and all associated equipment.

@magic_no1 2 года назад

Not so much after they have had sticky mits on them for 6 months without being cleaned and having been kicked round the armoury by a load of ex squaddies.

@dennisgreene8784 2 года назад

Your left with out guns objectives accomplished

@neilfoster814 2 года назад

Not a damn penny! The cops marched in and took about £3,000 of my guns, plus my antique family heirlooms that I inherited from my father who collected antique muskets and pistols.

@dennisgreene8784 2 года назад

Remember when they outlawed gold in America ? And all gold was forfeited and confiscated under the law nobody ever brings this back up .

@robertwaye803 Год назад

This is disgusting British gun licence are the hardest in Europe it’s a pity the police don’t spend as much time on knife crimes that are 98% more than gun crime just a lot easier for the police.

@jasonga 2 года назад

Had had my renewal declined after the plymouth bussines!! And 2-5 years is what they told me!!!

@kevinparker461 2 года назад

Reason i voluntarily gave up my FAC & Shotgun certificate 30 years ago, it broke my heart but i could see this BS coming. Coppers then had started wearing short sleeved shirts & flashing off their tattoo's, especially if they were only 5ft 7inches tall. Could see it going to rat shit & wanted to be as far away from "The Filth" as possible!. If plod had of ever turned up at my gaff with H&K MP5s to take away my legally licenced & held guns they wouldn't be getting in. Who do they think they are?, i know who they are, 99% the likes of Wayne Couzens. Look at serious crime going up + plod reclassifying crimes so it looks like they are doing a job!. Then the plod who turns up on your door is getting paid Tax payers money to "Bully" because that is what they are as well as parasites taking public money for doing FA. Then retired at 50 years old on a GOOD pension again paid for by the public. I despise the maggots!!

@mrpickles3479 2 года назад

Yeah, I gave my shotgun cert up this year after 15 years, just too many forms and too much agro these days that I can’t be bothered with anymore 🤷‍♂️

@AB-pw7ro 2 года назад

Hello. You wouldn't believe how much this comment means to me. I was recently falsely arrested and sexually abused by 4 pigs. I've no criminal record to be clear. I can't stand them. They don't protect us, quite the opposite - the law essentially prevents us from defending ourselves and of course the police only show up after a crime, once the damage is done. I've also noticed that short and female cops are the most insufferable.

@barryroberts2196 2 года назад

Talk about closing the door after the horse has bolted !!

@fishydubsfishing6516 2 года назад

That's BS if somebody is accusing you of something they need a video of the action not just your say everybody has a camera today on your phone there's no excuse for not having photos of it

@philsmith214 Год назад

Get this on mainstream media, it cost my friend 10,000 to get his back and the police even lost one of his firearms 😳 he had his day in court and won they even threatened his witness as to what happened

@lonewolfandcub668 Год назад

They act like a criminal Mafia

@crazycressy7986 2 года назад

Field sports channel, you need to now question BASC on why they are not helping their paying subscribers in legal aid in this matter

@RICHLES01 2 года назад

Why bother with BASC. It’s cheaper just buying other insurance.

@davidhull2060 2 года назад

Typical of modern Britain. Honest, law-abiding gun owners who follow the rules are penalized....criminals do what they please with impunity. But there are also a lot of people out there who just don't like guns, who don't believe that anyone should be allowed to own them in the UK, and are prepared to make spurious complaints knowing that the police will act in this way.

@PiperX1X 2 года назад

101 number is an absolute joke I’ve phoned this number on various times to the point I’ve hung up because no one answers it. Totally pointless number. Gone are the days when we had a village Bobby who knew everyone on his beat and any problems you had you always knew he could be relied on. You phone up now and by the time they find your address or where the problem is it takes them so long the person or persons committing the crime have long gone as the call centre staff haven’t a clue of the area that they are covering.

@alexprice1735 2 года назад

If basc are not willing to support there members who haven't done anything wrong after paying there membership for years in some cases. Thinking they have some sort of legal cover and support and now need legal help but get nothing is just disgusting.

@Seasidesurfer 2 года назад

Do BASC not have a fighting fund to appeal these cases? Unless these alleged heavy handed tactics are proven to be at fault the Police will continue to persecute members of the shooting community with impunity. It is time the BASC stepped up to the plate to defend it's members, if that puts a cost on the membership fees it will still be cheaper than taking action themselves or having to submit to wrongful Police action.

@sirrichardrichard5655 2 года назад

You no why they were in your garden shinning torches around...they were testing to see if you came out brandishing a gun... classic Gestapo trick..

@williambaird8807 2 года назад

Exactly never trust a policeman

@mudbutton2 2 года назад

The cops tackling the important issues...

@tommurphy4094 2 года назад

Isn't there an organisation that gun owners can pay a yearly subscription to who would then provide legal representation? Isn't this something that the NRA does in the USA?

@muzkat101 2 года назад

Lawful citizens are always the first to pay the price for criminal's activities. These egregious laws do nothing to stop criminal activity; a determined criminal will always find a way to inflict violence onto someone. Take the guns away, they go for knifes, cars, axes, hatchets, baseball bats, scissors, and eventually cast-iron frying pans... when does the insanity of confiscations stop?

@dukeman7595 2 года назад

Well you folks allowed it to happen the first time you gave up your rights to begin with..

@bottletree33 2 года назад

Typical cowardly response from the do as we police force. Utter disgrace as per usual. Untrustworthy, unhelpful.

@stephengreen3566 2 года назад

If I am still alive, that means I did not "give" my guns to anyone. They were taken. After I attempt to defend myself.

@martin2514 2 года назад

If these people have been out waving guns about. Why have they not been arrested for a crime? I think that is because if they were arrested, it would show there was never a complaint of any wrong doing by them.

@magic_no1 2 года назад

The first fella said about his girlfriend being in tears, i think thats code for the ex has been using the police to get her own back.

@paulsouth4794 2 года назад

Access by invitation? Thats a great cop shop .

@alex79buckland 2 года назад

This is such a saddening situation is there or has there been revisions to the granting of licences for people applying not only in the south West but in general I was going to apply for a licence but hesitant to do so now I live in West Wales has there been any changes that you guy's have heard of and do you have any advice?

@fieldsportstv 2 года назад

Thanks for this. We're turning a corner I think www.fieldsportschannel.tv/gunsurrender/ - / Charlie

@MrMillez 2 года назад

40 years safely owning guns and this feels more like Russia. Poor old boy

@paulshears7643 2 года назад

Shocking hope they get there guns back

@joelhall5124 Год назад

This is the problem people have; financial restraints on appealing. After me refusal (after a grant) I didn't know whether it was worthwhile risking the money, but my wife reminded me I always teach our kids how important justice is, standing up to bullies, and tackling unfairness, so... I have the first appeal hearing this Thursday

@davidprocter3578 2 года назад

By being on your property without a warrant or your permission the police were committing armed trespass, the police new this and phoneyed up the accusations against the chap in order to cover their backsides. Should anyone else find themselves in a similar situation my advice would be to not open your door but to talk to the police from an upstairs window empty hands clearly on display, inform them they are being filmed and are appearing live on facebook that should cool their heels, ask to see their warrant to search your address if they have non ask politely for their names and numbers inform them that you will be on the phone to the chief constable in the morning to ask why they are committing armed trespass and then politely ask them to leave. remember that if they have a warrant any misspelling or incorrect address invalidates the warrant and you can refuse them entry.

@MajorTom6 8 месяцев назад

The police in the UK alienate themselves at every turn. They are contemptible. I despise what they've become, and I used to work for them!

@andrewharris4940 2 года назад

And that's why I don't use BASC absolute joke

@martyn52 2 года назад

What a joke. Are the police going to pay these guys. The value of the guns and ammo.

@atrax7023 2 года назад

Damn they took his Sako those Sako's aren't cheap!!

@antdod1 2 года назад

I lived in Devon near Exeter I have no trust in the police force there ive even worked in Cullompton police station and seen what goes on ...this is a miss carriage of justice I hope these and many others get there fire arms back

@kevinparker461 2 года назад

An ex partner worked for civilian Police in Hertfordshire & some of the tales she told!, good job unknown to her i kept records. Nothing but incompetent clowns & most uniformed coppers are incapable of holding an intelligent conversation!

@antdod1 2 года назад

@@kevinparker461 some of them are more corrupt than the people they're supposed to arrest

@tracythurman2733 2 года назад

Don't ever let them take your guns

@blackadder1966 2 года назад

Police need to be held accountable including fines for individual officers. In this particular case examples would be giving false information, with holding evidence and impedeing information. I would suggest a video on how to deal with such cases, such as keeping a diary of who you spoke to when and where plus and recording of all interactions.

@grahamking2239 2 года назад

Why do they always come at night .

@gc641 2 года назад

There you go……police state…..wait till England gets invaded again, god save the queen🤣

@Old_Sailor85 2 года назад

Guilty until proven innocent, if we allow you to even defend yourself.

@sheikhnasrullah6536 2 года назад

First of all. Do not allow them entry to take your guns. If they had a warrant then they can take them. He can get the body cam video. He needs to apply for it with a Subject Access Request from the force. You can sue them in county court for no money. Represent yourself. At the very least you can get compensation for the guns. The presenter is WRONG they do not go to “crown court”. They go to county court.

@stephengreen3566 2 года назад

The officers need to watch their backs.

@aarondingain9006 2 года назад

Is there a way that they can contact the home office and complain about it too the government

@oscarmayer9823 2 года назад

You poor bastards. You don’t have a chance.

@andrewspence7635 2 года назад

Imagine going after legal gun owners , while criminals couldn't give a fook .

@michaelleak3369 2 года назад

so wot is the point of bask looks like f all to me

@JamesPettinato 2 года назад

Youall need to drag the king under the charter oak and get a 2nd amendment

@jacobmullins3644 2 года назад

They don't have a king they are ruled by the queen

@eclipsegfxable 2 года назад

With pleasure. Screw that whole monarchy.

@moucheroutdoors 2 года назад

If You think this is bad you should own a lurcher! Lurcher owners have been harassed by the police for years

@garyallen4486 2 года назад

I think in terms of how the police have apparently acted in these cases which seams without a strong and reasonable excuse to enter and remove the firearms then think of this. In general the police do not have the right to enter a person's house or other private premises without their permission. However, they can enter without a warrant: when in close pursuit of someone the police believe has committed, or attempted to commit, a serious crime, or. to sort out a disturbance. The police therefore having to apply for a warrant would put themselves in a position of stating exactly why this would be necessary.

@SquirrelSniper138 2 года назад

For there to be a crime there first must be a Victim

@thepvporg 2 года назад

What it sounds like is they went through old cases when you were a hot head youth and used that against you.

@fredgillespie5855 2 года назад

The people in the UK are really clueless. People will complain about this, that or some other injustice where they have complained to no effect. You say to them "have you taken this to your MP"? and the answer is inevitably no. You then ask them what their MP is being paid for - go see him/her. Usually they don't, they prefer just to complain to anyone who will listen and so they get what they deserve. In this case in the video the cops tricked them into surrendering their property and so they created a grey area. It the cops had confiscated the guns they would have to have shown good reason, if they couldn't then they would have been acting unlawfully. The Charter of Paris 1990 (the UK is Party to this) says that everone has the right to know and act on their rights - so the cops should have explained their rights to them but thy didn't so the cops are in breach of quite a few human rights agreements. The "rule of law" is a sick joke in the UK.